Hey all! So a buddy of mine recently sold his iPad so he could have enough cash to pick up a phone to use with T-Mobile. We looked at all the latest and greatest Android and iOS had to offer, and he decided he really liked the Note II. Not exactly in his price range, though. Asked me what I would get and I told him I'd either get a a Nexus 4 or a used, unlocked Galaxy device. I also told him, depending on the device, that I could get the phone working on T-Mobile. So long story short - He set his eye on the 1717, I figured out that you could root and flash a radio, and it'd work out fine.
So here's where you guys come in. I'm already quite familiar with Android, rooting, and custom ROMs. My friend? Well, this will be his first Android device. So I'll be heading over to his house setting it up to access Tmobile in a few days. Since I don't own the device, and I don't really have the time to figure out what ROM is better than the other, I figured I'd ask the seasoned users what their preferences are.
So here's a perfect scenerio of what I'd like to set up:
A Touchwiz based, Jellybean ROM with carrier bloatware removed (He wants the stylus stuff to work) Good performance and great battery life (Pointing me to a good kernel would help with that) and telling me what T-Mobile modems (pretty sure our area doesn't have great 4g, so setting it to consistent 3g/HSPA for him is best)I need to use, and which one is generally preferred.
So if you guys can tell me what ROM, kernel, and modem combo would work best for my Android illiterate friend, then that'd be great. Thanks for any advice you guys can give me.
Padawan
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Thanks. Looks like that's the generally accepted TW ROM. Looks like the modem thing is a 'find what works best for you're issue.
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If you live in a region where tmobile is using at&t frequencies (refarmed bandwidth) you can just flash the rom and not mess with the modem. Only unlock the phone and change the APN settings. Try it first with the stock modem.
rangercaptain said:
If you live in a region where tmobile is using at&t frequencies (refarmed bandwidth) you can just flash the rom and not mess with the modem. Only unlock the phone and change the APN settings. Try it first with the stock modem.
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Thanks. I'm planning on installing Padawan JB V2, so I'll see how the stock modem works with that first. Blaze Modem is also on my radar. Our area is confirmed to have HSPA+ 42, so maybe we'll see good results. I'll report back later.
Yeah, that's the best way. Put all the modem candidates on yiur sd card and flash one, input APN settings, and live with it for a day or two.
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Warning -- in the process of trying other modems, the baseband info disappears, but the phone still works. Also, sometimes users will get a insert sim card error. You have to return to stock and start over.
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rangercaptain said:
Yeah, that's the best way. Put all the modem candidates on yiur sd card and flash one, input APN settings, and live with it for a day or two.
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Warning -- in the process of trying other modems, the baseband info disappears, but the phone still works. Also, sometimes users will get a insert sim card error. You have to return to stock and start over.
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That's what I'm planning on. Only have one day to help him, though. APN settings is something I'm not really familiar with. Only thing I've seen is the fast.t-mobile thing for 4g, but besides that, not sure what it's all about. If I get decent speeds on the first one I try, then I'll stick with it. Not like he'll be downloading 500MB files over 3G or anything. Lol.
APN settings are how your phone accesses the world wide web. Just google tmobile apn settings android and write them down. When you flash the modem, go to settings - more - data - apn and hopefully the APN will be there automatically. If not, hit the menu button and choose create apn. Then isert the stuff you copied and save it.
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APN settings are how your phone accesses the world wide web. Just google tmobile apn settings android and write them down. When you flash the modem, go to settings - more - data - apn and hopefully the APN will be there automatically. If not, hit the menu button and choose create apn. Then isert the stuff you copied and save it.
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Tried the new stock radio that everyone likes. Was only getting edge speeds. Went and flashed this radio: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41052527&postcount=10
Got 3.25Mbps down and 0.43 up. Considering that is very close to his home internet, I'm very happy.
Almost scared to tweak it now.
Leave well enough alone!
Padawan JB is getting some great speeds on TMobile for me.
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Padawan JB is getting some great speeds on TMobile for me.
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With which modem? Does Padawan contain a modem in it that overwrites whatever your existing radio is?
What about basbeand? Do you ever have to add the t-mobile basband alo?
I'm having problems getting any 3g t-mobile with any modems so far. I have not installed tis ROM yet but I am thinking of doing so.
I'm using the i717 on Solavei which is a TMO compatible MVNO. I use the ICS blaze modem and Carbon ROM works great! I flash the ROM, then gapps, then the modem in that order all one right after another in TWRP. Its been working great for me and get H when I'm in a good tmo area. I live in the mountains though so now its edge....bummer. But in town and stuff its nice and quick. Hope it helped.
Oh and its factory unlocked and I made a sim adapter out of and old credit type card so my sim would stay in right. ICS blaze was the only one I could get to work.
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videocard said:
With which modem? Does Padawan contain a modem in it that overwrites whatever your existing radio is?
What about basbeand? Do you ever have to add the t-mobile basband alo?
I'm having problems getting any 3g t-mobile with any modems so far. I have not installed tis ROM yet but I am thinking of doing so.
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I'm using the stock AT&T modem (Jellybean). Padawan has this modem but I had to flash it back because I had flashed TMobile modems on some other ROMs
I have never messed w/baseband. I did add an APN setting fast.tmobile.com
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Alright so ill start this of by saying, Picked up my note today and loving it so far. Got it rooted thanks to Da G and getting ready to get into roms.
Anyway im making this thread to see if anyone else has tried anything out on the non-AT&T notes(i.e I717M and what not). So far from what i have read people are developing mostly for the AT&T model and saying its not for bell rogers or telus. Now I have been in the samsung world for a while and when it comes to my galaxy there was always ways around this.
For instance most of my ROMs were made for the international version not my bell version. But as long as I kept a copy of the bell modem on my phone i could just flash that and the ROM worked great. So does anyone have a copy of the bell telus or rogers modem for the note? or know if there all the same?
Another example in the galaxy s world was the captivate(Same soft keys as our phones). A person with a captivate could flash an international ROM as long they made a soft key fix when they developed the ROM.
One of the main reasons I ask all of this is because i see so many N7000 ROMs up and running and am wondering what will and wont work.
Look forward to hearing from you all
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For instance most of my ROMs were made for the international version not my bell version. But as long as I kept a copy of the bell modem on my phone i could just flash that and the ROM worked great. So does anyone have a copy of the bell telus or rogers modem for the note? or know if there all the same?
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you can get all the carrier radio/modem, and even the kernel from carrier here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506212
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and here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1630843
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sorry, I also forgot this kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1589389
Bell note here. Been. The at & t roms with no problem.
The only issue that I have is the Yellow Pages crap that appears in my contact list as well as at& t bloat depending on the rom. Easy enough to deal with though.
Aside from that, it's been perfect.
Currently on Team Perfection 4.0.4.
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I forgot to add that I haven't had any issues with data speeds at all.
Also, Don't venture into the N7000 roms because they will not work.
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The N7000 ROMs can hard brick your phone since the hardware if the two models are completely different. AS Far as ROMs go, most are based off the AT&T software simply because that's the only ICS leak we have available. But you can use any ROM for the i717 on your Bell Note. I have a Bell Note and flashed almost every ROM and never ran into any problems. Also, Ruth the help ofa lot of people on this sure, I've made stock images of the Bell, Telus, and Rogers Notes so we can always go back. Best if luck and don't hesitate to ask anything.
Thanks for the info, I get mine today and was wondering the same thing.
Yesterday I flashed my Rogers Branded Galaxy i717 with Bell Rom and Kernel and have not 1 issue. I chose to flash the rogers i717 with Bell because I use bell mobiletv and this was the only way to get this particular app to work. Again not 1 issue with data or anything else.
No Rooted device either. Just flashed using ODIN.
I'm currently running the UCLE2 Rom on my Rogers i717. I've noticed that I am not getting LTE where I should be. And GPS connectivity is shoddy at best.
I have a second i717 which is stock that is with me to compare (family member).
I am going to flash the Rogers modem to hopefully correct atleast the LTE issue. Anyone know if this would improve my GPS connectivity as well?
For a number of years I have been buying Canadian phones to use on ATT. Canadain ROMs have less restrictions than ATT. For instance tethering and NFC are not locked. Also after rooting my Roger's Note it took under a minute to remove the Rogers branding. (all except splash screen) I was left with a fully optioned unbranded ROM.
I did want to try the stock UCLE2 ROM out of curiosity but I thought it would not install because my phone was not an ATT I717. How did you install it eugenekim618? Personally I would rather wait for the Rogers ICS version. Keep checking everyday to see if it is available.
I have tried quite of a few of the ROMS on here with my Bell i717M, no problems at all so far, other than the "android.phone has stopped working" at startup, I don't know the cause but it only happens at boot.
DO NOT use N7000 roms! But all of the AT&T stuff has worked great for me.
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For a number of years I have been buying Canadian phones to use on ATT. Canadain ROMs have less restrictions than ATT. For instance tethering and NFC are not locked. Also after rooting my Roger's Note it took under a minute to remove the Rogers branding. (all except splash screen) I was left with a fully optioned unbranded ROM.
I did want to try the stock UCLE2 ROM out of curiosity but I thought it would not install because my phone was not an ATT I717. How did you install it eugenekim618? Personally I would rather wait for the Rogers ICS version. Keep checking everyday to see if it is available.
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I followed the posts in the Dev section to Root the phone.
Then installed CWM.
The picked a ROM I thought was good and followed the instructions in it's respective post to install.
I've done a lot of ROM installs for the Dell Streak I used to have and for a Sony Xperia X10.
So I am not totally unfamiliar with the process. Just a matter of getting used to the delivery method for each manufacturer. And then, dealing with the quirks of a ROM that is not 100% for your carrier. Goes with the territory, right?
I tried to read all the posts in a given thread as much as I can.
So you are saying you didn't install the one click odin stock UCLE2 ROM?
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So you are saying you didn't install the one click odin stock UCLE2 ROM?
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No, that doesn't work for non AT&T phones I believe. I tried it, and ODIN recognized the COM, but failed to install. From my readings, can't do the one click install on Rogers since it's not a Rogers ROM.
all custom roms should work no problem, ive flashed tons on my unlocked bell note.
its the stock odin files when you want to make sure you get the proper device.
Hey guys Ive flashed pretty much all the roms I can and some I cant lol. So far my experiances have encountered a few setbacks but nothing substantial and allot if not most of the bugs and glitchs occurring in the first & second gen of roms have been fixed or patched.
As far as roms go as was already mentioned as long as you stay away from n7000 model roms and stick to i727 youll be ok. With at&t roms I always seem to have signal and gps issues. Generally tho I find my signal problem will clear itself up on its own and I believe is actually just just caused by the fresh software 'settling in', even though my signal appears low or fluctuating speed testing always shows Im getting peak d/l & u/l speeds. If the signal doesnt seem to improve flashing the Bell stock modem via cwm always does the trick. Gps usually works great, very fast & accurate, when Im having location issues I use the 'faster fix' app from the market, I dont know about anyone elses experiance but allot of the times theres a problem the gps server isnt set to the normal 'north america pool' but servers Ive never seen before or set to an 'international pool'.
All in all besides signal headaches the only other recurring problems are the inherent and unpredictable random force closing of system apps. It can be pretty random but I find a few constant trouble makers to be at&t software update, android phone. At&t update can be disabled easily under applications in the main settings or I was able to actually remove it using 'rom toolbox's app manager but strangely not with root toolboxs remove system apps. For pretty much all other f/c problems the remedy is a running of 'fix permissions', there are a bunch of ways/apps to do it and Ive found using 'rom manager' works the best meanwhile rebooting into recovery and fixing permissions from there will actually cause more problems.
Ok so those are the most recurring and annoying issues Ive had to name a few but the list is too big to write merely because Ive tried just about every rom right from the sketchiest unstable first releases and everything in between lol so feel free to drop me line if your stuck on a problem cause I might be able to help.
But before I end this novel here lol I just flashed the new 'OnlyOne Beta2' rom from the development section and it runs great. The rom is super stable, very fast and features both fully functional S Voice app and fully functional S Notes app. If you havnt tried S Notes yet its awesome the new functions and abilities totally blew me away so I highly recommend you give this rom a try!
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I'm currently running the UCLE2 Rom on my Rogers i717. I've noticed that I am not getting LTE where I should be. And GPS connectivity is shoddy at best.
I have a second i717 which is stock that is with me to compare (family member).
I am going to flash the Rogers modem to hopefully correct atleast the LTE issue. Anyone know if this would improve my GPS connectivity as well?
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If you had LTE before and lost it through flashing a custom ROM or whatever then try changing your APN to your Carrier LTE network. If you never had LTE when you bought your phone, probably the seller gave you a wrong sim. tell her to give you a 403 LTE capable sim, the 401 is only 4G.
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If you had LTE before and lost it through flashing a custom ROM or whatever then try changing your APN to your Carrier LTE network. If you never had LTE when you bought your phone, probably the seller gave you a wrong sim. tell her to give you a 403 LTE capable sim, the 401 is only 4G.
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Thanks for the tip. But I got everything running again. I did have LTE to start, and have a LTE sim card. The *#2263* certainly helped. And Flapjaxxx's GPS tools in his ROM helped me get the GPS back up to par.
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Thanks for the tip. But I got everything running again. I did have LTE to start, and have a LTE sim card. The *#2263* certainly helped. And Flapjaxxx's GPS tools in his ROM helped me get the GPS back up to par.
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ok now I just lost my LTE after flashing new ROM from Seraphim Stratosphere. How did you get it back. I factory wipe everything and flash Rogers modem and it doesn't work. How did you manage to get LTE back? btw I have a Canadian Note with Rogers. the Saurom ROM was canadian and I had LTE too.
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ok now I just lost my LTE after flashing new ROM from Seraphim Stratosphere. How did you get it back. I factory wipe everything and flash Rogers modem and it doesn't work. How did you manage to get LTE back? btw I have a Canadian Note with Rogers. the Saurom ROM was canadian and I had LTE too.
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Try *#2263#
Then force select LTE, and select ALL. That should force the LTE connection. So watch the connection bars. You should see a loss of connection, then reconnect on LTE. Once that is established, do the code again, and just select automatic.
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Try *#2263#
Then force select LTE, and select ALL. That should force the LTE connection. So watch the connection bars. You should see a loss of connection, then reconnect on LTE. Once that is established, do the code again, and just select automatic.
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When I try dialing it, it says error can't find USSP or something like that... What does this mean?
Just to be clear that im doing the right thing. I go to the dialer and punch the code *#2263#. How do I "force select LTE"? will something popup for me to select it or should I go to settings/ wireless and networks... I don't have those options in "wireless settings", I only have APN settings...
So I put the latest .10 ICS leak on my phone yesterday because I can't wait for the OTA since i'm leaving soon. I downloaded the 4G on off app and am thinking I should be able to pop in any SIM card and it should work on GSM. Is the phone unlocked? Also I might need to use my normal Verizon SIM to use in Italy and Spain. The verizon reps said if I left it in it would work just fine. Is this true? I currently don't have any GSM cards to test with and I've been looking everywhere for the answer but no success. Help would be amazing.
Thanks in advance
For full GSM support I believe you need to install one of the custom roms with it added...
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For full GSM support I believe you need to install one of the custom roms with it added...
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But I thought that was one part of the ICS update. So is the phone kinda locked like I can only use verizons rates? I want to try a SIM but I don't have one
With GB or the ICS leak you probably can get basic calling and texts with a GSM cell company sim card.
With the conrom ROM you should also get mms and data to work. Supposedly everything works.
Also, I suspect gsm antenna is not in the extended battery cover, so you should use the standard back cover that came with the phone.
I personally have not tried gsm in my rezound, so the above advise might be incorrect. this is just something I am interested in.
howard
p.s. T-Mobile sells a $1 sim card with 10 minutes of talk time, an internet deal. So you can buy this $1 simm to test with.
p.p.s. You will also need to go into the settings and add the apn settings for the cell company whose sim you are using. data and mms won't work without this.
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With GB or the ICS leak you probably can get basic calling and texts with a GSM cell company sim card.
With the conrom ROM you should also get mms and data to work. Supposedly everything works.
Also, I suspect gsm antenna is not in the extended battery cover, so you should use the standard back cover that came with the phone.
I personally have not tried gsm in my rezound, so the above advise might be incorrect. this is just something I am interested in.
howard
p.s. T-Mobile sells a $1 sim card with 10 minutes of talk time, an internet deal. So you can buy this $1 simm to test with.
p.p.s. You will also need to go into the settings and add the apn settings for the cell company whose sim you are using. data and mms won't work without this.
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Thank you so much. I just need calling and data and mms to work. I'm just going to google how to change the APN setting as you said. Thanks a lot for the help man. I have the ICS leak which is supposed to support global roaming straight from VZW.
Well, there is a thanks button you can click on.
I do not know much about Verizon's New global roaming, bit I suspect it will be expensive per minute. Using a local cell company's sim card probably will cost less for long visits overseas.
I wrote an app called HZUTILS which can also do the radio changes like the LTE on off app. My app is free, also does a few other functions, and if you click on an advertisement I earn a few cents.
The CONROM is available in the development forum. During installation one is asked GSM or LTE. no easy switching back and forth. I suggest you make a nandroid backup first with Ramon ra recovery or the touch recovery. Restoring the backup is a method for returning to LTE. Or one can reinstall the conrom and select LTE.
If you look through the development forum you will find other gsm ROMs. The CONROM does both LTE and GSM, was made from the latest .10 ICS leak, and sounds like it is very reliable.
p.s. let me know how this works for you.
Thank you but I don't wanna root my phone really.. I forgot something last time and almost bricked it. Well not really but it was scary. My only question is really can I just switch it from your app as it is now because I can or must I have a custom Rom for some type of reason?
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Thank you but I don't wanna root my phone really.. I forgot something last time and almost bricked it. Well not really but it was scary. My only question is really can I just switch it from your app as it is now because I can or must I have a custom Rom for some type of reason?
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I recall, a few months ago, reading a very long multiple page posting about people having various levels of success with stock GB and changing the radio setting using LTE on off app. People were successful with phone calls and texting, but had difficulties with mms and data.
People did strange things to get data working, and it only worked for some people. I think it involved driving the phone in a car to get somewhere with no cell signal, then back home? Not sure, as I don't recall it very well.
Then people started typing in the APN for their gsm provider. This evening, just for fun I tried typing in the APN for T-Mobile into .10 ICS leak rezound, and it would not get saved. No error message. Verizon appears to have locked out the capability to add a non Verizon APN. So, yes, I think a gsm ROM is needed.
BTW, there must be plenty of rezound owners using GSM who can more confidently give you more concrete advise. They can tell you what they tried, what worked, what didn't, and what is the best approach. I think the answer is a GSM ROM, or paying high roaming charges to Verizon.
Alright ill just try and get a sim off someone on at&t and see what happens. But thanks a lot man I hope I get an answer from someone doing it. You were a lot of help ill let you know how it goes!!
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I tried putting in a SIM and changing the radios and I got nothing /: I need to get this working
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Global in VZ ICS
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I tried putting in a SIM and changing the radios and I got nothing /: I need to get this working
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I just received the official Verizon ICS in the last hour. I am poking around looking for the global feature, since it is THE promised reason I bought the phone. Offhand, I do not see the global feature anywhere . Network mode still only shows' LTE/CDMA' or 'CDMA only' as the choices, so it seems that 'global' is still not official from Verizon in the ICS as just shipped.
The LTE ON/OFF app seems to have a few more options than when I last looked, but I've no idea what's may have changed.
I put in a tmobile SIM card and changed the settings in the app to GSM and wcdma and it worked calling and texting! It didn't have data but if you go to mobile network settings and access point names I feel like you could add the apn and be golden using data and mms over gsm. I'm Hoping this is the truth but I don't have anything to test it with
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I'm on the leak from three months ago, in Afghanistan. Popped in a sim card from a shop on base and it works with no problems. Calls only though no data. I'm using the extended battery. Had to use the lte on off app to put it in gsm.
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GSM switch gone in ICS OTA?
Looks like option to switch to GSM is gone. Dialing *#*#4636#*#* does nothing...
that option to show network modes when dailing *#*#4636#*#* is removed in latest RUUs and official OTA, but however you may flash any of ROMs available to get GSM
ajv00 said:
I put in a tmobile SIM card and changed the settings in the app to GSM and wcdma and it worked calling and texting! It didn't have data but if you go to mobile network settings and access point names I feel like you could add the apn and be golden using data and mms over gsm. I'm Hoping this is the truth but I don't have anything to test it with
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So SMS worked with the ICS OTA, both send and receive? Last time I tried 2 months ago under Gingerbread, GSM calls were fine, but could only receive SMS text, could not sent texts, and never got data to work.
I've spent over 1/2 of the last 3 months overseas, so this is a big deal to me. Even if just the calls and SMS send/receive work, I will be pleased. VZ told me the global feature is not in this latest Verizon ICS OTA, but maybe the inner workings are there and they just haven't put in the frontend and any VZ profitmaking carrier lockouts?
I am off to South Africa next Friday. Sounds like I will have to get an MTN sim in ZA and try again when I get there. Maybe this ICS OTA will have some value to me afterall. I'll try to remember to post back here, whether it works or not. If it all works, however, I'm pretty sure the posting will only be redundant info, since my screams of giddiness would be heard around the world... afterall, I've been using an old unlocked GSM RAZR flip phone when I travel.
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Looks like option to switch to GSM is gone. Dialing *#*#4636#*#* does nothing...
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The LTE ON OFF app still seems to allow access. However, until I get overseas I'm not sure how to tell if it is truly switching/working
I only tried receiving a text/: sorry I can't confirm sending. But if you flash a gsm Rom which I might everything works
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When you are all talking about APN sims, are you talking about manipulating a phone that works for 1 carrier to also work with another carrier? If so, does it become a phone which works with both carriers?
I work in an area along the shore of Lake Michigan; for some reason Verizon has never had good coverage when close to the shore (I have experienced this problem for years, and from widely distant areas). However, some of my coworkers get good Internet using ATT, or Sprint; if there is a way for me to take advantage of this, then I want to!
Thank you.
Smegmus Magnus said:
When you are all talking about APN sims, are you talking about manipulating a phone that works for 1 carrier to also work with another carrier? If so, does it become a phone which works with both carriers?
Thank you.
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Yes, the Note2 can be used with ATT, Tmo, etc.
Smegmus Magnus said:
When you are all talking about APN sims, are you talking about manipulating a phone that works for 1 carrier to also work with another carrier? If so, does it become a phone which works with both carriers?
I work in an area along the shore of Lake Michigan; for some reason Verizon has never had good coverage when close to the shore (I have experienced this problem for years, and from widely distant areas). However, some of my coworkers get good Internet using ATT, or Sprint; if there is a way for me to take advantage of this, then I want to!
Thank you.
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There was a thread in here somewhere about someone who flashed an AT&T rom and had it working perfectly. Can't remember where it was, but that would be your best bet.
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Thanks for the replies.
So; does flashing an ATT rom mean my phone will no longer work on Verizon?
Also; if I were to flash a rom allowing ATT compatability, does that mean I would have to return my phone to stock, and flash an ATT-specific custom rom? As it is, I'm on Beans 17, and love it.
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Thanks for the replies.
So; does flashing an ATT rom mean my phone will no longer work on Verizon?
Also; if I were to flash a rom allowing ATT compatability, does that mean I would have to return my phone to stock, and flash an ATT-specific custom rom? As it is, I'm on Beans 17, and love it.
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No returning to stock for anything unless your trying to recover a soft brick. Everyone in this damn forum is so hung up on returning to stock for this or that. Once your rooted and have a custom recovery installed thats it your done. Forever........... If u want to flash a different rom wipe in recovery and flash away...... Thats all there is to android. Well from a user standpoint anyways.
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If you're on a Verizon phone you should stick with a Verizon based rom or intentional based rom made for Verizon. To CORRECTLY use another carrier's rom on your phone, you need to change APNs, csc files, lib files, framework files/code and probably some other files depending on the rom. Your best bet is to use a rom like Scott's ACE Cleanrom. When you flash it aroma allows you to choose other carriers. You can flash it once, choose at&t, set it up and make a nandroid. Then wipe everything and do the same for Verizon. Then all you would have to do is flash between the two nandroids.
@Mao04 & RomsWell,
Thank you both for your responses, you've both eased my mind and saved me a lot of trouble...
... I've decided '**** it!'. I really don't like talking on the phone anyway (or texting), and I can handle 8 hour workshifts without indulging in my addiction for news.
Besides, I'm loving Beans 17.
Thanks again.
After happily using my 'old' S4 on T-Mobile with HSPA+ since having the Note 3 as my primary line, I was naturally excited to update the baseband and unlock Band 4 LTE. However I noticed some caveats which I've now solved which will undoubtedly confuse everyone at some point.
Assuming you've got the correct APN for T-Mo (fast.t-mobile.com) and naturally install the SIM, if your phone is on global you will happily see working LTE but not so fast (no pun intended). If you call or text, it fails. If you quick check your About -Status in settings and look under network it will say say Unknown and not T-Mobile. Why? Essentially you're in LTE data only mode because by default the baseband is looking to connect to CDMA for everything else in the CDMA/LTE marriage that is Verizon unique, which obviously won't work here. The assumption otherwise is that you will only need GSM if traveling internationally so it never looks for LTE with GSM.
The quick easy fix is to drop out of Global back to the GSM/UMTS setting, which will bring everything back, network restored to T-Mobile, but now it won't use LTE again, lame.
Luckily there is a fix. Use the PhoneInfo app or however you prefer to get to the Testing App. Under device information change the dropdown to LTE/GSM (auto PRL). Toggle airplane mode or restart. When it comes up you should be on LTE and quick check settings again you'll see T-Mobile, and everything will work. So far this seems to hold pretty well.
EDIT: Note: This works for TW Roms. I have not had success in CM10.2. In CM I've only gotten LTE data (wrongly labeled Verizon) and nothing else. Doesn't even pick up my phone number regardless of settings used.
Can you send me the link to the TW rom you are using for this? Thanks!
A walk through would be nice
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majorlag said:
Can you send me the link to the TW rom you are using for this? Thanks!
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Just stock actually. Nothing special.
killajoe said:
A walk through would be nice
Sent From The Future
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Use this app, hit Device Information, and change the dropdown to LTE/GSM (auto PRL). Given the simplicity not sure you need much more of a walk through than that. A video would require a bunch of editing to blot out IMEI and phone #s.
zepfloyd said:
Use this app, hit Device Information, and change the dropdown to LTE/GSM (auto PRL). Given the simplicity not sure you need much more of a walk through than that. A video would require a bunch of editing to blot out IMEI and phone #s.
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I am using this app and it is great. When it works, it would show T-Mobile as Net. Op instead of Unknown. Only issue I am seeing is that 4G LTE signal is not so great over where I am at and once in a while it would drop to H+ and then get back to LTE. During that cycle, the Net. Op would become Unknown again. Wish there was a way to fix this permanently like tricky the SMS app to send GSM or whatever it is causing Net Ops to be unknown.
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I am using this app and it is great. When it works, it would show T-Mobile as Net. Op instead of Unknown. Only issue I am seeing is that 4G LTE signal is not so great over where I am at and once in a while it would drop to H+ and then get back to LTE. During that cycle, the Net. Op would become Unknown again. Wish there was a way to fix this permanently like tricky the SMS app to send GSM or whatever it is causing Net Ops to be unknown.
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Couple of things. Remember as I started with the baseband in i545 when on LTE really wants to use CDMA as the default so when it's searching it's not going to obtain GSM as instantaneous As it otherwise would. Don't see any specific way of that getting patched ever as we're going against the grain of how it's typically supposed to be used. If you are on a fringy area for it, you may be better off just leaving LTE off, H+ speeds are practically the same anyway. Tmo is only using 3-5mhz channels for band 4 as they use other channels too so for us it's not going to be superfast like Verizon on average anyway.
My phone is in Global mode, I have fast LTE internet and calls/texting works just fine. I am using a Verizon S4 with MJ7 and a T-Mobile simcard. No need to change anything except the APN and switch to Global.
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My phone is in Global mode, I have fast LTE internet and calls/texting works just fine. I am using a Verizon S4 with MJ7 and a T-Mobile simcard. No need to change anything except the APN and switch to Global.
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Stock?
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yep, cant really install anything on MJ7 since there is no official root even, so yeah, bone stock. Fastest I have gotten the internet to be was 25-26mbps download which isnt great, but for a cellphone is more than enough lol
So maybe the MK7 bootloader fixes this SMS issue...
How is this holding on for u ? I got it to work one time with hyperom and I restarted and it doesn't want to work. I did however get it working completely on a mj7 ROM and gummy kikat ROM. Weird.
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If you happen to have an MDK and want to run CM10.2 with GSM service run the ATT "I337" ROMS, fixes all the Verizon CDMA quirks
Black6spdZ said:
If you happen to have an MDK and want to run CM10.2 with GSM service run the ATT "I337" ROMS, fixes all the Verizon CDMA quirks
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I did that and it kept failing.... TWRP recovery just would not get it to take.
So I flashed the MJ7 rom again and I got it working on it. I'm not sure why it didn't work on hyperom. Very weird. Tried the method and nothing. But I tried the method on mj7 ROM and it works perfectly. Weird weird weird.
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How is this holding on for u ? I got it to work one time with hyperom and I restarted and it doesn't want to work. I did however get it working completely on a mj7 ROM and gummy kikat ROM. Weird.
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so using the 4.4 gummy rom you were able to connect to LTE / HSPA+ networks easily? And SMS / MMS worked just fine? Upon trying with the MJ7 update, non-rooted, I could only connect to Edge services under the GSM profile. Using global would barely warrant the HSPA band.
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After happily using my 'old' S4 on T-Mobile with HSPA+ since having the Note 3 as my primary line, I was naturally excited to update the baseband and unlock Band 4 LTE. However I noticed some caveats which I've now solved which will undoubtedly confuse everyone at some point.
Assuming you've got the correct APN for T-Mo (fast.t-mobile.com) and naturally install the SIM, if your phone is on global you will happily see working LTE but not so fast (no pun intended). If you call or text, it fails. If you quick check your About -Status in settings and look under network it will say say Unknown and not T-Mobile. Why? Essentially you're in LTE data only mode because by default the baseband is looking to connect to CDMA for everything else in the CDMA/LTE marriage that is Verizon unique, which obviously won't work here. The assumption otherwise is that you will only need GSM if traveling internationally so it never looks for LTE with GSM.
The quick easy fix is to drop out of Global back to the GSM/UMTS setting, which will bring everything back, network restored to T-Mobile, but now it won't use LTE again, lame.
Luckily there is a fix. Use the PhoneInfo app or however you prefer to get to the Testing App. Under device information change the dropdown to LTE/GSM (auto PRL). Toggle airplane mode or restart. When it comes up you should be on LTE and quick check settings again you'll see T-Mobile, and everything will work. So far this seems to hold pretty well.
EDIT: Note: This works for TW Roms. I have not had success in CM10.2. In CM I've only gotten LTE data (wrongly labeled Verizon) and nothing else. Doesn't even pick up my phone number regardless of settings used.
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how did you update and unlock to baseband 4? What developer makes the PhoneInfo app? thanks
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My phone is in Global mode, I have fast LTE internet and calls/texting works just fine. I am using a Verizon S4 with MJ7 and a T-Mobile simcard. No need to change anything except the APN and switch to Global.
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Are you actually getting "LTE" or reframed 4G?
please school me how to change apn.
well let me give you a trick, flash an i9505 rom which you can find them here http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/i9505-develop
then flash any verizon kernel (because if you just flash an at&t or t-mob rom it wont reboot it will say triangle and not authorized verizon software)
dont forget to update your baseband to lastest then you can enjoy LTE (and fast) without any problems.
if you get and prop. issues while flashing international roms just change the "updater-script" first line to :
assert(getprop("ro.product.device") == "jfltevzw" || getprop("ro.build.product") == "jfltevzw"
then you can flash anything you want.
Here is how I did it
Here is how I did it, but needs some minor updates since then. Please let me know if anyone tries it and is happy with the result.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2560128
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Use this app, hit Device Information, and change the dropdown to LTE/GSM (auto PRL). Given the simplicity not sure you need much more of a walk through than that. A video would require a bunch of editing to blot out IMEI and phone #s.
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App wont open for me.
Running a rooted stock MK2.
any ideas?
My friend purchased a G900T that was broken for parts, which needed a new screen. Upon replacing the screen, the phone was functional, but he discovered that the IMEI number had been blacklisted on T-Mobile's network. We unlocked the phone to use it on ATT, and the device works fine on the ATT network, with the exception of mobile data. No matter what steps we have taken, putting in custom APN settings, we have not been able to get data to function.
Does anybody have any suggestions as to what might be causing these issues?
Thanks a lot in advance! :good:
Have you tried to flash an AT&T ROM & AT&T Modem?
Or are you still running T-Mobile ROM & Modem?
Still running the stock Tmobile rom and modem. I thought about switching to ATT rom and modem, but I wasn't sure if that would brick the phone or if it should just work with the stock Tmobile modem. Can I just flash an ATT rom?
Just make a Nandroid beforehand.
T-Mobile S5 comes w an unlocked boot loader so you shouldn't have any problem. You put in an AT&T SIM card right?
You do not want to flash AT&T firmware on a Tmobile phone unless you are looking to brick it. You can however flash ROM's from Unified S5 threads (900F, 900T etc.) that are open to multiple model phones.
So if I flashed one of the unified roms, would that change the modem at all? I was thinking that it wouldn't be part of the package. Would just flashing an att modem be a terrible idea? I am using an Att sim card. Thanks for the ideas so far!
No, do not flash an att modem or ROM on a tmo device. It won't work, and it is not meant to work.
Does your subscription have an active smartphone data plan?
Are you getting any data connection (E, 3G, or 4G)_and you're not able to jump on the LTE or just no data at all?
If the answers to above questions are yes, there are a few more things att checks for before authenticating data use on a device.
These fields need to look exactly like this:
ro.product.model=SAMSUNG-SM-G900A
ro.product.name=klteuc
ro.product.device=klteatt
ro.build.product=klteatt
This information lives in the build.prop file of your android OS and you're gonna have to look up how to back up and edit this file. Start off here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1948558 and keep on reading. I kbow this is exciting and you want to make it work quickly but it is not so simple. So reading and researching are your best friends.
Best of luck,
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Okay, thanks for the info! We are just plain not getting any data at all, and the user does have an active data plan with ATT. MMS messages are not even able to be sent or received. So in this instance, do you think modifying the build.prop to match the example you gave me would resolve the issue? I'm pretty comfortable working with the build.prop on the device and just working the the Android OS in general so that should not be a problem.
So I guess checking the APN settings won't be a bad idea:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2975336
[Q] Tips on using a G900T on AT&T
See if the APN matches with this one, and toggle airplane mode on/off each time you change things in APN.
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Okay, I had checked APN settings before, but I'm not sure if they were specific to the S5 on ATT or just some generic ATT one I found. That thread looks pretty helpful, I'll see if I can give it a shot later today.
You may also consider loading an international ROM for example http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2732110
Is an excellent ROM
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I know it's a foolish question, but you never know. Are you sure your mobile data is not turned off? My wife did that a while back.
I'm running a AT&T rom on my t-mobile s5 with out any problems as a matter of fact I have better signal.i just flashed rom not modem
Well thank you to everybody for insight into this. The link that Commodore 64 posted pertaining to the APN settings ended up fixing these issues. I had input different ATT APN settings I found in a different thread previously, but I guess they must not have been right. Still running the stock Tmobile rom and we are now able to get data and 4G with really good speeds.
Cheers!
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Well thank you to everybody for insight into this. The link that Commodore 64 posted pertaining to the APN settings ended up fixing these issues. I had input different ATT APN settings I found in a different thread previously, but I guess they must not have been right. Still running the stock Tmobile rom and we are now able to get data and 4G with really good speeds.
Cheers!
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May I ask what APN settings you are running? With the APN settings I'm using I get full 4G LTE data just about everywhere I go, besides way out in the stix then I get 4G in some spots.
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Quickvic30 said:
May I ask what APN settings you are running? With the APN settings I'm using I get full 4G LTE data just about everywhere I go, besides way out in the stix then I get 4G in some spots.
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I'm using the APN settings in this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2975336