i tried wanam XXEMD3 and stock deoxded XXEMD3 with Googy-Max 1.4.6 kernel
i don't think its problem of kernel because i used it on XXEMD2 which is all fine.
today i flashed wanam XXEMD3 and when i running setup and connecting WIFI it keeps reports "Authentication error" or something , i think that's translation.
i thought it could be problem of ROM , and then tried stock deoxded XXEMD3, same , i figure maybe WIFI password i typed wrong ? although it's highly unlikely
and then i restored back to XXEMD2 with recovery , WI-FI works all fine ...
any idea ?
You should look for a wifi fix for your kernel or your ROM. This should to it. If there isn't any you should go to support of kernel or ROM. They should be able to fix this if no wifi Dix patch exists
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qtwrk said:
i tried wanam XXEMD3 and stock deoxded XXEMD3 with Googy-Max 1.4.6 kernel
i don't think its problem of kernel because i used it on XXEMD2 which is all fine.
today i flashed wanam XXEMD3 and when i running setup and connecting WIFI it keeps reports "Authentication error" or something , i think that's translation.
i thought it could be problem of ROM , and then tried stock deoxded XXEMD3, same , i figure maybe WIFI password i typed wrong ? although it's highly unlikely
and then i restored back to XXEMD2 with recovery , WI-FI works all fine ...
any idea ?
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Please try flashing ROM with full wipe and supplied kernel.
rootSU said:
Please try flashing ROM with full wipe and supplied kernel.
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It's OK now
I don't know what and where the problem was, but I figure reflash ROM several times solves problem, it's kinda pain in ass as sometimes I have to reflash it dozens times to have Wi-Fi work...
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qtwrk said:
It's OK now
I don't know what and where the problem was, but I figure reflash ROM several times solves problem, it's kinda pain in ass as sometimes I have to reflash it dozens times to have Wi-Fi work...
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How peculiar?!
rootSU said:
How peculiar?!
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indeed it was ,
i don't know what was going on , but however i managed ...
again , really really really really really annoying as i have to flash something like kernel , Jkay and some other MOD.
first of all i thought it might be some MOD or kernel causing the problem so i only flashed ROM but problem remains ...
even same ROM , this time i flash it might be fine but next it could go wrong ...
It's an intriguing one. I assume you've tried full format of /system etc so I can't think what else it would be. Please update us if you work it out
rootSU said:
It's an intriguing one. I assume you've tried full format of /system etc so I can't think what else it would be. Please update us if you work it out
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I don't think the word "intriguing" is that I will choose to describe it...
Yes, sure, the wiping is like standard procedure , data, cache and system were always formatted before flash...
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Earlier,I have installed openoptimus.My screen stopped responding after irregular interval.The problem was getting solved after reflashing rom only.
Now,I have installed devoid,but problem is same.Do you know the solution?Because it does not seem hardware Problem.
Both the developers are not replying to my message.
Wat kernel ur using?
ccdreadcc said:
Wat kernel ur using?
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I do not think that it is kernel problem because I have used francisisco kernel from v9 to v14.2.2
First I thought that problem starts if I charge my mobile to 100%,now I feels that it happens when battery gets heated up and some sweat from ears touched the screen.But,these are my assumptions.
try doing a clean flash again and dont install anything for sometime and test it..
puneet13 said:
Earlier,I have installed openoptimus.My screen stopped responding after irregular interval.The problem was getting solved after reflashing rom only.
Now,I have installed devoid,but problem is same.Do you know the solution?Because it does not seem hardware Problem.
Both the developers are not replying to my message.
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Install Stock Rom and kernel. Hope it will work for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1015332
puneet13 said:
I do not think that it is kernel problem because I have used francisisco kernel from v9 to v14.2.2
First I thought that problem starts if I charge my mobile to 100%,now I feels that it happens when battery gets heated up and some sweat from ears touched the screen.But,these are my assumptions.
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You haven't specified if you oc'ed your device. Or it might be even because of a failling microSD card.
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@ccdreadcc
I had installed fresh custom rom thrice,but problem persists.
@sweetbinodray
I am not in fastmode .
Problem always gets solved after flashing Rom again.But,I lose my all data
@Zerobarat1
I am using minimum of 320 maximum 710,smartass profile
and what the relation between touch and sd card?
Thanks for the useful info
sounds like a hardware problem you might have to send the phone in dont worry about the rooted and ROM maybe reflash the original ROM but its not a big deal especially if your with tmobile in america i have sent 2 phones back rooted and with roms on them i could be wrong though so do a lil research there might be a fix
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sounds like a hardware problem you might have to send the phone in dont worry about the rooted and ROM maybe reflash the original ROM but its not a big deal especially if your with tmobile in america i have sent 2 phones back rooted and with roms on them i could be wrong though so do a lil research there might be a fix
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When,I unroot my mobile,problem goes away.
So,what to do now?
puneet13 said:
When,I unroot my mobile,problem goes away.
So,what to do now?
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So when you install the root but keep the rom the problem goes away??? sounds strange foregone said before and you didn't answer did you wipe all your data (factory reset) in your recovery before installing rom?? That is a strange bug have not heard our before ??? try wiping your data and then installing rom also send a message to me or on this post exactly what steps you took to get to this point with your phone including roms kernel or any other mods you might of flashed
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So when you install the root but keep the rom the problem goes away??? sounds strange foregone said before and you didn't answer did you wipe all your data (factory reset) in your recovery before installing rom?? That is a strange bug have not heard our before ??? try wiping your data and then installing rom also send a message to me or on this post exactly what steps you took to get to this point with your phone including roms kernel or any other mods you might of flashed
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Yes,I wipe all the data,before installing custom or stock rom.
I install 10b stock version and use zroot to root it.
Then,with the help of ADB i install custom recovery
Flash stock 2.2.1 and root with gingerbreak. Use terminal emulator to flash custom recovery..
puneet13 said:
@ccdreadcc
I had installed fresh custom rom thrice,but problem persists.
@sweetbinodray
I am not in fastmode .
Problem always gets solved after flashing Rom again.But,I lose my all data
@Zerobarat1
I am using minimum of 320 maximum 710,smartass profile
and what the relation between touch and sd card?
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whats yore exact problem then?
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problem solved
It was some problem with my touchscreen(hardware problem).
all working fine now..
Thanks all of you for help
I cant make any calls cause my phone just cant search for mobile networks!!!! And WIFI cant authenticate my house network too!! please help! i really wanna try ICS but I cant without internet!
xkap said:
I cant make any calls cause my phone just cant search for mobile networks!!!! And WIFI cant authenticate my house network too!! please help! i really wanna try ICS but I cant without internet!
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WIFI fixed! But still no signal
xkap said:
WIFI fixed! But still no signal
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What do you mean with WIFI fixed? can your phone connect to your AP?
Did u install kernel provided by MiniCMSandwich? If not then you should..
What phone are you using?
My SK17i use MiniCMSandwich RC3 too..and got no problem with Wifi or Mobile Data..
According to me, this ROM works only with its own kernel, correct me if I am wrong.
Which network setting do you have? Does changing location help? Airplane mode?
Do you have correct kernel and ROM installed? What kind of error do you get? No service or what?
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Make sure you
- flash the provided Kernel that comes with the ROM
- then full factory reset, wipe cache, wipe dalvik
- flash rom
I had to do it twice, Data didn't work on first try, I guess the Kernel flashing went wrong, but now everything works fine
xkap said:
I cant make any calls cause my phone just cant search for mobile networks!!!! And WIFI cant authenticate my house network too!! please help! i really wanna try ICS but I cant without internet!
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For mobile networks problem try to change the APN..it's work
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pucank said:
For mobile networks problem try to change the APN..it's work
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APNs are not related to making calls at all. Changing these does not help.
May I ask how to flash a custom kernel on the sk17i? I flashed the MiniCMSandwhich ROM but i did it with the stock kernel, so it got stuck at the boot logo... So i need to know how to flash the right kernel to a sk17i.
Also, i think someone (maybe me if i manage to get MiniCM working) should make a tutorial on how to get MiniCM running starting at an unrooted phone updated to the latest stock Sony formware. I thing that that would be helpfull to a lot of people.
Thanks in advance!
TSegers said:
May I ask how to flash a custom kernel on the sk17i? I flashed the MiniCMSandwhich ROM but i did it with the stock kernel, so it got stuck at the boot logo... So i need to know how to flash the right kernel to a sk17i.
Also, i think someone (maybe me if i manage to get MiniCM working) should make a tutorial on how to get MiniCM running starting at an unrooted phone updated to the latest stock Sony formware. I thing that that would be helpfull to a lot of people.
Thanks in advance!
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Kernel installation is in my tutorial, link in my signature.
Thanks a lot, i saw and read your tutorial before, but i must have missed the kernel part , I think ill do that later today. But for now, there is no way of flashing a new kernel without unlocking the bootloader is there?
TSegers said:
Thanks a lot, i saw and read your tutorial before, but i must have missed the kernel part , I think ill do that later today. But for now, there is no way of flashing a new kernel without unlocking the bootloader is there?
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Nope, kernel can only be installed with unlocked bootloader.
Hi all,
I installed PA v2.5. Everything worked well except my phone network signal. It is not detecting any signal. Did every thing i could do. wiped system/factory reset, wiped cache partition and dalvik cache. Fixed permissions. Formatted system. tried installing rom a number of times. Changed kernels from stock kernel to siyah 4.1.3 and 5.0. But none of the method worked. Please suggest the way i can get my phone signals as without network signal, it doesn't remain a phone.
Have you tried flashing another modem? You can download a modem here.
Why don't you try to install an other kernel? Different from siyah and stock... As kernels define how hardware work...
singhsidhartha said:
Hi all,
I installed PA v2.5. Everything worked well except my phone network signal. It is not detecting any signal. Did every thing i could do. wiped system/factory reset, wiped cache partition and dalvik cache. Fixed permissions. Formatted system. tried installing rom a number of times. Changed kernels from stock kernel to siyah 4.1.3 and 5.0. But none of the method worked. Please suggest the way i can get my phone signals as without network signal, it doesn't remain a phone.
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You installed siyah 4.1.3 with PA 2.5? They're not compatible and the phone shouldn't even have booted.
Anyways, if you're not able to get a signal, your modem has probably changed. You can check if the modem currently on your phone (settings>about phone) is the same as the one you originally had. ( I assume you've noted down your original modem details somewhere. And flash that modem from the link mentioned above. It should work
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so please suggest some other kernel.
riro1612 said:
Why don't you try to install an other kernel? Different from siyah and stock... As kernels define how hardware work...
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so please suggest some other kernel that works fine with pa 2.5. Should i use dorimax like??
so please suggest some other kernel.
HAXTREME said:
You installed siyah 4.1.3 with PA 2.5? They're not compatible and the phone shouldn't even have booted.
Anyways, if you're not able to get a signal, your modem has probably changed. You can check if the modem currently on your phone (settings>about phone) is the same as the one you originally had. ( I assume you've noted down your original modem details somewhere. And flash that modem from the link mentioned above. It should work
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so please suggest some other kernel that works fine with pa2.5. I had installed i9100DDLPA base version originally. and now i have flashed it. still not getting signal. sometimes it appears but disappear next moment. it happens frequently. Now i have switched to stock ics 4.0.3. but i want this rom. i flashed resurrection remix and found same problem. but flashing stock modem fixed it. But its not working with pa.
Use siyah 5.0 or dorimanx 7.4 (or higher if there's a later release.) I think the siyah dev gokhanmoral has blocked siyah 5.0 downloads for some reason, so use dorimanx 7.x for now.
Flash the PA ROM, it'll automatically install the default kernel its using. You can install dorimanx after that. And then if necessary, the modem that works for you. Also you can use the getRIL app to match your radio and baseband. May help.
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Ok. Check if it works.
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singhsidhartha said:
Ok. Check if it works.
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Hi, i love PA too but we have the same issue. Not exactly the same though. I get signal when i boot my phone, i get an H signal (the highest i could get before the issue) but after flashing PA, it drops to E only after about 2minutes. Pls pls reply back if you found a solution. I have tried different modems and kernels already, verified that Siyah 5 is not compatible, tried DorimanX, same thing. Tried 2 different version of PA, no luck. Not to mention that i also tried another sim.
GetRil did it..
Hurraaayyy....
getRil app solved the problem.:laugh: It gave me the option of flashing modems which were matching my phones modem hardware. Thanks to all guys who helped me. Thanks a lot. Anyone having the same problem as of mine or any network related problem please give a try to getRIL app. May be it could work for you too.
LInk: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1187681
Hi there,
Can you please help me, I am a NOOB and I been looking and trying to fix my phone for a week and I cant work it out, therefore I come here seeking your help, I would very much value ideas or solutions you could provide.
I will be as brief as possible.
When I try to flash a new Rom, my phone gets stuck on the boot screen, there are only two roms that load, one freezes, the others roms wont boot.
All started like this:
I originally had RR JB V3.1.3 AOKP 4.2.1 I9100
Then changed to
AllianceROM_I9100_XWLSS_V8, look good but thought of trying the aokp i9100 jb-mr1 milestone-1, when trying to swap I made the mistake of doing a factory reset to find out that I could not access the roms on my sdcard.
so I then installed (I9100_CODE_I9100XXLP2_CL57619_REV02_user_low_ship.tar) it all worked as it went to stock. I rooted the phone again, tried installing the AllianceRom, but it didnt want to load, tried the Aokp again it did work, but then once the screen turns off it wont respond...
tried super nexus, did not want to work. tried updating CMW, it doesnt want to... Tried Jellybam, did not load...
So I tried and reloaded RR JB V 3.1.3 as I already have and it works, it is the only rom that works successfully, But if I try to go on to CMW, it doesnt work anymore, and it seems that once I try to use CMW it makes the rom unstable... So it seems that I can only use one Rom at the moment. Clearly I must of done something wrong at some point but I dont know what. I dont even know what to search for to fix it.
I tried different tools to see if they would help and no luck, such as, GS2ROMNuke, Romreset and Romwipe, Darkside cache and superwipe.
I hope someone can help me out in working out what I did wrong or what is happening.
Thank you so much for your time and help.
Bump, Any help would be very much appreciated.
Thnaks
Bumping inside 24 hrs is not permitted.
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Bumping inside 24 hrs is not permitted.
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Thanks for letting me know... Will keep that in mind next time.
Try kernel nuke then flash another kernel say siyah as its got cwm. Should be good then mate. Then install alliance rom. Also when you installed and booted for first time on these roms did you try wipe cache and dalv cache fix Permission ??
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andrewwright said:
Try kernel nuke then flash another kernel say siyah as its got cwm. Should be good then mate. Then install alliance rom. Also when you installed and booted for first time on these roms did you try wipe cache and dalv cache fix Permission ??
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Thanks for the tip... I did try however I dont have access to cwm anymore once I install RR.
The only way I can get CWM to work again, is installing speedmod-kernel-s2-k2-21- through Odin but then the rom doesnt work anymore.
I tried the kernel nuke, I have tried installing siyah kernel with RR, but no luck it doesnt go into cmw. keep getting a message Kernel Panic...
anymore suggestions?
Could I have done something on the mounts? I dont know, but I cant think of what is going on.
Could it be that my phone has emmc brick?
I came across two apps
Got Brickbug?
Verdict
Danger! This eMMC chip is known to have the brick bug!
and
eMMC check
Brick Bug?
Yes. Insane chip....
Could someone please give me an indication what this means for me? Thanks
Yes, it's sticked in the general forum.
Sent from the little guy
gastonw said:
Yes, it's sticked in the general forum.
Sent from the little guy
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Thanks mate!!!
One final question, why is it that the RR Rom is the only one to work rather well? (CMW does not work once the rom is intalled)
Thanks heaps!
Where did you hear that?
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gastonw said:
Where did you hear that?
Sent from the little guy
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RR is runing rather well,I have tried it... I have currently stock installed and it is working just fine....
Any ideas? Thanks
swifteagle said:
RR is runing rather well,I have tried it... I have currently stock installed and it is working just fine....
Any ideas? Thanks
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"Serenity now, insanity later"
gastonw said:
"Serenity now, insanity later"
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hahahaha, so is my s2's chip insane?
Thanks
swifteagle said:
hahahaha, so is my s2's chip insane?
Thanks
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Yes, but you don't need to worry (as long as you're not on 4.0.4), and that's that.
gastonw said:
Yes, but you don't need to worry (as long as you're not on 4.0.4), and that's that.
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Thanks...Fantastic!!!
Hey guys... this is a tough one...
I have a i9300, and it is rooted, and I use Carbon Rom (a AOSP ROM).
My brother bought one i9300 this week. He asked me to root it, and install Carbon Rom too.
Ok, so I rooted the phone, using CF-Root-SGS3-v6.4, via odin. After that, i flashed philz_touch_5.07.1-i9300 recovery, and used it to flash a zip with the AOSP ROM and Gapps. Well, after i flashed the ROM, the phone boots into Carbon, but reboots EVERY 30 SECONDS. I thought it could be a problem with the download, so i flashed the same file that i flashed on mine, but problem still persisted. Then, i tried to Restore on HIS phone, a Nandroid from MY phone. Same thing.... boots normal, and reboots after 30 seconds. At this point, i realized that his Baseband version was different from mine. (it was the only difference i could find). Mine is BUEMA1 and his was UBELL1.
So, i downloaded, from sammobile.com the latest firmware/radio for his carrier. After flashing it, the phone boots Normal into Stock ROM, but it freezes ALL the time. It freezes on normal uses, such as email, whatsapp, etc...
Could something be corrupt? What would it be? IMEI seems to be fine.
I cant think of anything that could cause reboot every 30 seconds on AOSP, and freeze on Stock
Read the Freezing thread .
jje
JJEgan said:
Read the Freezing thread .
jje
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where is this? couldn't find it
1. Root it again.
2. Install CWM Revovery
3. Copy a Custom ROM & the rightful Gapps to your SD Card.
4. Boot into Recovery and Select the Option "Format System" or use this tweak: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832326 (install it like you would with a ROM) It will Wipe Everything from your phones Internal Memory.
5. Install the Custom Rom first, then Gapps. Then boot up your phone.
I would suggest using CM10.1 for starters.
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where is this? couldn't find it
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yurividal said:
Hey guys... this is a tough one...
I have a i9300, and it is rooted, and I use Carbon Rom (a AOSP ROM).
My brother bought one i9300 this week. He asked me to root it, and install Carbon Rom too.
Ok, so I rooted the phone, using CF-Root-SGS3-v6.4, via odin. After that, i flashed philz_touch_5.07.1-i9300 recovery, and used it to flash a zip with the AOSP ROM and Gapps. Well, after i flashed the ROM, the phone boots into Carbon, but reboots EVERY 30 SECONDS. I thought it could be a problem with the download, so i flashed the same file that i flashed on mine, but problem still persisted. Then, i tried to Restore on HIS phone, a Nandroid from MY phone. Same thing.... boots normal, and reboots after 30 seconds. At this point, i realized that his Baseband version was different from mine. (it was the only difference i could find). Mine is BUEMA1 and his was UBELL1.
So, i downloaded, from sammobile.com the latest firmware/radio for his carrier. After flashing it, the phone boots Normal into Stock ROM, but it freezes ALL the time. It freezes on normal uses, such as email, whatsapp, etc...
Could something be corrupt? What would it be? IMEI seems to be fine.
I cant think of anything that could cause reboot every 30 seconds on AOSP, and freeze on Stock
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hi man , I was having this problem before , try to mega wipe then flash a stock rom via odin
Geaquzzil said:
hi man , I was having this problem before , try to mega wipe then flash a stock rom via odin
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Mega Wipe... what would that be?
I guess it is this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1983489
right?
Anyways, i have flashed a TouchWizz ROM called WanamLite... the phone is SUPER FAST, and freezing is gone.
Too bad he cant use a AOSP (I LOVE Carbon ROM)... but i will let it stick to WanamLite since it is working and rooted. I kind of gave up
yurividal said:
Mega Wipe... what would that be?
I guess it is this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1983489
right?
Anyways, i have flashed a TouchWizz ROM called WanamLite... the phone is SUPER FAST, and freezing is gone.
Too bad he cant use a AOSP (I LOVE Carbon ROM)... but i will let it stick to WanamLite since it is working and rooted. I kind of gave up
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Did you at least read my post?
DiDA™ said:
Did you at least read my post?
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I did. Thank you very much.
The thing is, the phone is running so smooth with this WanamLite Rom, that i am afraid of touchung it and it start freezing again. Not even stock ROM was so smooth. It hasnt frozen in 2 days. But I will for sure try your suggestion if i start to see issues with this Rom too.
I would love to be able to run CarbonRom on his device, but i dont want to take the risk of "touching what is working", specially because it is not my device.
Anyways, i appreciate the help i have received on this forum. Seriously, thank you very much, to each one of you.
yurividal said:
I did. Thank you very much.
The thing is, the phone is running so smooth with this WanamLite Rom, that i am afraid of touchung it and it start freezing again. Not even stock ROM was so smooth. It hasnt frozen in 2 days. But I will for sure try your suggestion if i start to see issues with this Rom too.
I would love to be able to run CarbonRom on his device, but i dont want to take the risk of "touching what is working", specially because it is not my device.
Anyways, i appreciate the help i have received on this forum. Seriously, thank you very much, to each one of you.
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With a wipe it will work too. If u have PhilZ u can select in reset menu "Clean to install a new ROM".
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TheRealFelix0212 said:
With a wipe it will work too. If u have PhilZ u can select in reset menu "Clean to install a new ROM".
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I did this... Several times
yurividal said:
I did this... Several times
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Strange.. On my device it works fine.
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TheRealFelix0212 said:
Strange.. On my device it works fine.
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I know, on mine too. The problem is with my brother's.
Are you certain they are both i9300s
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ads2996 said:
Are you certain they are both i9300s
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100% positive
You need to check its not a fake / clone first .
Settings about phone details .
jje
JJEgan said:
You need to check its not a fake / clone first .
Settings about phone details .
jje
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It is deffinetely a Genuine Samsung device...