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Warranty and resigning contracts aside. (I will void my warranty flashing and buy the phone out of contract anyway). Anyone sorry they did not wait for their domestic versions?
Would it be better to wait for the ATT version or buy the Euro version. Seems to me the Developers are far more active on the I9000 side of things and most of the better Captivate ROM ports were based on the I9000 and reoriented.
What are the pluses and minuses of the Euro vs ATT version outside of the warranty. Is having a "home" button better for some? I am ready willing and able to jump now but the intrigue of a cheaper domestic (albeit locked) version has me taking pause.
Get the Euro one, its worth the cost. By the time iP5 comes out, if you could upgrade for cheap, then do it for massive profits. After experiencing the Craptivate, I will never buy a variant of any phone again. I'll just use my upgrade on an iPhone's & resell for profit while buying original international phones.
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Get the Euro one, its worth the cost. By the time iP5 comes out, if you could upgrade for cheap, then do it for massive profits. After experiencing the Craptivate, I will never buy a variant of any phone again. I'll just use my upgrade on an iPhone's & resell for profit while buying original international phones.
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Interesting take. I may just end up getting the Euro version.
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i bought the euro version and i love it. if you are not worried about warranty and you can afford it then go for it. i liked the original version of the galaxy s much better than the domestic locked versions and based on the leaked pic of the at&t version i think the euro one will be better again. bell in canada is about to release their model which will be the same as the euro one, but you will still have warranty hoops to jump through. the price might be slightly less, but only by a few bucks by the time you pay our taxes and shipping, etc.
i think the euro one will have more people developing roms first, and i do like having the physical home key.
i also agree that you can always use your upgrade to buy an iphone 5 and sell it to offset the price of the galaxy s2. i was thinking about waiting too but i got it a few weeks ago and i am happy i did
I just upgraded for a couple of and sold two Captivates so upgrading to the I5 is not an option. I did that when the 3GS came out when I was all about buying Nokia N series phones. Doubled the $299 ATT price. I think Iphone is losing its shine in the market. I know three people who gave up their iPhones for the Android platform. Of course that is not a scientific conclusion. LOL
Another reason I wanted the Captivates was to have a back up for my wifes and get an SGS 2 for me. The Captivate is still the best US phone for easy flashing. The developers really polished a turd there. It has turned into a great phone. Which is why I can wait a bit.
Seems to me the developing is heavily i9000 favored. I may sit back a few weeks and see what happens with FW upgrades, development, and prices on the International unlocked version.
If you get the Euro one you can get the cheaper ATT data plans, by telling ATT you have a feature phone.
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If you get the Euro one you can get the cheaper ATT data plans, by telling ATT you have a feature phone.
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Might work if my wife was not staying with the Captivate. which makes me wonder if I need to load two different sets of drivers for each device.....hmmm
In any case we are already on the $15 data plans I have never used over 150MB of 3G data. Nearly always in wifi area. I find it incredibly expensive to pay $500 a year for 3G data we rarely use. LOL we are also on a pay per message plan. We do more talking than texting. Maybe 30 texts a month at the most. So the plan cannot get much cheaper. $90 a month plus tax for both phones.
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Might work if my wife was not staying with the Captivate. which makes me wonder if I need to load two different sets of drivers for each device.....hmmm
In any case we are already on the $15 data plans I have never used over 150MB of 3G data. Nearly always in wifi area. I find it incredibly expensive to pay $500 a year for 3G data we rarely use. LOL we are also on a pay per message plan. We do more talking than texting. Maybe 30 texts a month at the most. So the plan cannot get much cheaper. $90 a month plus tax for both phones.
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He means you can use the 15 dollar unlimited data plan since its not an att phone, so you can use the 15 dollars unlimited data plan.
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He means you can use the 15 dollar unlimited data plan since its not an att phone, so you can use the 15 dollars unlimited data plan.
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WOW yeah forgot about that. (been a long time since my unlocked Nokia N series days where I could do that) Yeah..I will likely go on Medianet unlimited data on mine using an old flip Phone we had as a back up. I then will be more inclined to download apps and stream some stuff between wiFi areas.
Called Verizon and they told me that the unlimited plan i'm on is guaranteed as long as I'm on a contract. Once under contract, if they change the plan that drastically, you can get out of the plan. I will be off my existing contract in a few weeks. 2 different CS reps said that the month to month plans will not be changed but cannot be guaranteed to stay that way and is very likely to convert to new plans by end of year or early next year.
She recommended just getting a new phone if I wanted to just make sure. I told her I like my phone and really didn't want a new phone or contract. She said that all the other carriers already have plans to implement similar packages so if i wanted to guarantee an unlimited rate, i would have to buy a new phone by the 28th (or pre-order the S3) or just take the risk.
I'm leaning towards the S3 even though i hated my fascinate and droid charge. I wish there was a way around it, but i use 6 gigs a month. I flash roms which reload all my apps, i stream music like crazy while at work and share data with my ipad.
Anyone know if this is true? If getting a contract guarantees me 2 more years of unlimited LTE, i will do it. I guess i could get the razr maxx too.
any reccomendations between the 2?
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Called Verizon and they told me that the unlimited plan i'm on is guaranteed as long as I'm on a contract. Once under contract, if they change the plan that drastically, you can get out of the plan. I will be off my existing contract in a few weeks. 2 different CS reps said that the month to month plans will not be changed but cannot be guaranteed to stay that way and is very likely to convert to new plans by end of year or early next year.
She recommended just getting a new phone if I wanted to just make sure. I told her I like my phone and really didn't want a new phone or contract. She said that all the other carriers already have plans to implement similar packages so if i wanted to guarantee an unlimited rate, i would have to buy a new phone by the 28th (or pre-order the S3) or just take the risk.
I'm leaning towards the S3 even though i hated my fascinate and droid charge. I wish there was a way around it, but i use 6 gigs a month. I flash roms which reload all my apps, i stream music like crazy while at work and share data with my ipad.
Anyone know if this is true? If getting a contract guarantees me 2 more years of unlimited LTE, i will do it. I guess i could get the razr maxx too.
any reccomendations between the 2?
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When I talked to Verizon before getting my RAZR. They said the only way your plan will change, is if you upgrade after the tiered plans take affect. As long as you stayed with your old phone, or payed full retail, you would keep your old plan whatever it may be.
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orateam said:
Called Verizon and they told me that the unlimited plan i'm on is guaranteed as long as I'm on a contract. Once under contract, if they change the plan that drastically, you can get out of the plan. I will be off my existing contract in a few weeks. 2 different CS reps said that the month to month plans will not be changed but cannot be guaranteed to stay that way and is very likely to convert to new plans by end of year or early next year.
She recommended just getting a new phone if I wanted to just make sure. I told her I like my phone and really didn't want a new phone or contract. She said that all the other carriers already have plans to implement similar packages so if i wanted to guarantee an unlimited rate, i would have to buy a new phone by the 28th (or pre-order the S3) or just take the risk.
I'm leaning towards the S3 even though i hated my fascinate and droid charge. I wish there was a way around it, but i use 6 gigs a month. I flash roms which reload all my apps, i stream music like crazy while at work and share data with my ipad.
Anyone know if this is true? If getting a contract guarantees me 2 more years of unlimited LTE, i will do it. I guess i could get the razr maxx too.
any reccomendations between the 2?
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Backup apps local. It saves me time and aggravation.
64gb sd card is my next experiment
Battery life => 2 Days RazrMaxx
Or, as in my case, get your phone outside of Verizon. Then, it's not a contract renewal, it's an activation only since I didn't purchase the phone upgrade through them. I guess it's the same as purchasing it at full retail (unless you get it via ebay or as a trade from someone else). I didn't purchase my through Verizon so I got to keep my unlimited data and it will stay that way until they pry it from my cold, dead hands!
so they were lying? contract is not going to change? they have to honor unlimited as long as i like?
orateam said:
so they were lying? contract is not going to change? they have to honor unlimited as long as i like?
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Unless you do an upgrade via Verizon and don't pay full retail price. Basically, you are renewing your contract when you do the upgrade through Verizon. Then, at that point, you are beholden to Verizon to switch to the tiered pricing.
Otherwise, pay full retail price for the phone or get it from someone else that isn't connected with Verizon and then activate it on Verizon, you get to keep your unlimited data plan. I got my phone outside of Verizon so I didn't have to switch to the tiered plan.
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so they were lying? contract is not going to change? they have to honor unlimited as long as i like?
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I'd call again, maybe ask a supervisor? I've been told at least 3 times that as long as you had service during the "unlimited" era that you would be considered "grandfathered" which means it would stay that way as long as you don't leave and come back and it's still on that same line. You can change the phone number, but if you leave for a period of time by canceling a contract prematurely OR leaving because it's over and try to come back, THEN you would no longer be considered "grandfathered" and would be at the mercy of the new plans. Even if you stay month to month AFTER the contract instead of renewing it, you would still be grandfathered as long as you didn't let the service on that line come to an actual complete end. I used my upgrade on the Razr just in the beginning of April and still have my "unlimited" data.
I left and came back and lost my unlimited. I'm very sad panda. Do everything u can to ensure u keep it even if means stuck on same phone!
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Shinare said:
I left and came back and lost my unlimited. I'm very sad panda. Do everything u can to ensure u keep it even if means stuck on same phone!
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I am doing what i can. Basically what i'm hearing from Verizon is that the grandfathering is only going to last till the end of the year and because you're not on a contract is not guaranteed. The only certain thing is they will not convert you next week. But that amount of time is VERY limited, perhaps 6 months before they pull that grandfathering.
Only through a new binding contract will they honor the unlimited rate. So if i get a new phone from them now, i get 2 years vs 6 months. For me at 6gigs a month the difference is $69 currently vs $135 on tiered. 18 extra months on unlimited if i get a contract will save me $1800.
Again, i know it's not a sure thing, but i'm just trying to find out how likely they are to end the grandfathering in 6 months. Even a little likely is too likely for me.
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I am doing what i can. Basically what i'm hearing from Verizon is that the grandfathering is only going to last till the end of the year and because you're not on a contract is not guaranteed. The only certain thing is they will not convert you next week. But that amount of time is VERY limited, perhaps 6 months before they pull that grandfathering.
Only through a new binding contract will they honor the unlimited rate. So if i get a new phone from them now, i get 2 years vs 6 months. For me at 6gigs a month the difference is $69 currently vs $135 on tiered. 18 extra months on unlimited if i get a contract will save me $1800.
Again, i know it's not a sure thing, but i'm just trying to find out how likely they are to end the grandfathering in 6 months. Even a little likely is too likely for me.
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What they mean by taking it away is that they won't honor it any more WHEN you do an upgrade of your phone through Verizon.
There are a number of ways to keep your unlimited data plan:
When it's time to upgrade your phone, purchase the phone at full retail price.
Purchase your phone via a 3rd party and take the phone to Verizon to activate it.
Stay on your current phone.
What it all boils down to is, do NOT renew your contract. Let it expire and stay on the month-to-month contract. Anything that makes you renew your contract to a new 2-year contract with Verizon WILL make you lose your unlimited data.
Since I purchased my RAZR outside of Verizon, I didn't renew my contract with Verizon, hence I kept my unlimited data and will continue to do so until I decide to take a subsidized upgrade through Verizon or leave them and come back at a later time. Otherwise, I will keep my unlimited data plan for as long as I please.
In the end, it IS cheaper in the long run to purchase the phone at full retail price because you'll pay MORE for it through the extra costs of the tiered data plan and the two-year binding contract.
ok, based on what you guys advise, i will keep my razr. i really love it and didn't want to change it.
Just for your guys info verizon does a double data deal every once in a while, in march i got my razr for a penny and got the 5gb plan that got doubled to 10gb... im a heavy user and i keep it under 10gb a month.. if you need more either your really taking advantage by tethering your whole house or doing something illegal...and if u are tethering ur whole house on unlimited lte ur definitely screwing us all over lol but more power to ya....
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Just for your guys info verizon does a double data deal every once in a while, in march i got my razr for a penny and got the 5gb plan that got doubled to 10gb... im a heavy user and i keep it under 10gb a month.. if you need more either your really taking advantage by tethering your whole house or doing something illegal...and if u are tethering ur whole house on unlimited lte ur definitely screwing us all over lol but more power to ya....
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Its really easy to go over your limit with netflix and you tubes... nottin illegal bout that.
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Listen, folks. If you are on a 2-year contract, once the two years is up, so is the contract. You do not have a contract. You do not have a "legally binding agreement" to hang over anyone's head.
And there is no such thing as a "month-to-month" contract. At the end of the billing period, VZW can change the terms. Because your "monthly contract" is not any kind of agreement that binds VZW to any conditions.
Want an example? Alltel customers were told their data plans, etc, would stay in effect "forever", as long as the customer did not initiate a change in the plan.
Phones could be upgraded every two years at a subsidized price and the data plan would not change.
Now, if a previous Alltel customer upgrades a phone, the data plan for all phones on the account changes.
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Listen, folks. If you are on a 2-year contract, once the two years is up, so is the contract. You do not have a contract. You do not have a "legally binding agreement" to hang over anyone's head.
And there is no such thing as a "month-to-month" contract. At the end of the billing period, VZW can change the terms. Because your "monthly contract" is not any kind of agreement that binds VZW to any conditions.
Want an example? Alltel customers were told their data plans, etc, would stay in effect "forever", as long as the customer did not initiate a change in the plan.
Phones could be upgraded every two years at a subsidized price and the data plan would not change.
Now, if a previous Alltel customer upgrades a phone, the data plan for all phones on the account changes.
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I kept my unlimited data and plan from Alltel until I upgraded into my bionic and added my wife to my account. My upgrade into my OG DROID, and DROIDX didn't have to change out of my Alltel plan. Not sure where you got your info from.
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Called Verizon and they told me that the unlimited plan i'm on is guaranteed as long as I'm on a contract. Once under contract, if they change the plan that drastically, you can get out of the plan. I will be off my existing contract in a few weeks. 2 different CS reps said that the month to month plans will not be changed but cannot be guaranteed to stay that way and is very likely to convert to new plans by end of year or early next year.
She recommended just getting a new phone if I wanted to just make sure. I told her I like my phone and really didn't want a new phone or contract. She said that all the other carriers already have plans to implement similar packages so if i wanted to guarantee an unlimited rate, i would have to buy a new phone by the 28th (or pre-order the S3) or just take the risk.
I'm leaning towards the S3 even though i hated my fascinate and droid charge. I wish there was a way around it, but i use 6 gigs a month. I flash roms which reload all my apps, i stream music like crazy while at work and share data with my ipad.
Anyone know if this is true? If getting a contract guarantees me 2 more years of unlimited LTE, i will do it. I guess i could get the razr maxx too.
any reccomendations between the 2?
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You could always buy a new phone and turn around and sell it on eBay if you want to stay on your current phone. If you are on contract then you keep your service as-is. If they change your service (even by a few pennies or change the terms of your service) you can get out of the contract. That is a fact. I've done it.
That being said, I really like my Razr Maxx. It has had the best battery of any phone I've used so far (3 others... fascinate, charge and droid 4). It should be getting ICS in the next couple weeks, hopefully (maybe sooner).
The stock Launcher on the Razr Maxx blows. Use Go Launcher or anything else for more features / more customization to suit your needs.
That's my 2 cents.
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After your 2 year contract is up, you are on a month-to-month PLAN... not contract. If they decide to take away something that you've had forever you can simply cancel your account.
It has been my experience that 9 times out of 10, talking to the cancellations department will get your XYZ reinstated that they tried to take away from you...but there is always that 10% chance that they follow through with it. Unlimited data may fall under that 10% chance pretty easily or not. Talking with your money and walking away does have power.
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Called Verizon and they told me that the unlimited plan i'm on is guaranteed as long as I'm on a contract. Once under contract, if they change the plan that drastically, you can get out of the plan. I will be off my existing contract in a few weeks. 2 different CS reps said that the month to month plans will not be changed but cannot be guaranteed to stay that way and is very likely to convert to new plans by end of year or early next year.
She recommended just getting a new phone if I wanted to just make sure. I told her I like my phone and really didn't want a new phone or contract. She said that all the other carriers already have plans to implement similar packages so if i wanted to guarantee an unlimited rate, i would have to buy a new phone by the 28th (or pre-order the S3) or just take the risk.
I'm leaning towards the S3 even though i hated my fascinate and droid charge. I wish there was a way around it, but i use 6 gigs a month. I flash roms which reload all my apps, i stream music like crazy while at work and share data with my ipad.
Anyone know if this is true? If getting a contract guarantees me 2 more years of unlimited LTE, i will do it. I guess i could get the razr maxx too.
any reccomendations between the 2?
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I would heed the warnings from the 2 CSR agents regarding so called month-to-month contracts. Once your contract expires, and you don't renew, there's no guarantee that you will be able to keep that unlimited data. VZW doesn't offer month-to-month contracts. Right now, they are saying that you will keep your unlimited data, but I wouldn't trust VZW. The 2 CSR's actually gave you a glimpse into what may be coming down the pipeline.
I would pre-order the SGSIII if your contract expires in July. At least lock up unlimited data for 2 more years. If you don't like it, I'm sure you could find someone willing to trade you a RAZR MAXX for it. Just swap your SIM card into the new phone, and your all done.
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What they mean by taking it away is that they won't honor it any more WHEN you do an upgrade of your phone through Verizon.
There are a number of ways to keep your unlimited data plan:
When it's time to upgrade your phone, purchase the phone at full retail price.
Purchase your phone via a 3rd party and take the phone to Verizon to activate it.
Stay on your current phone.
What it all boils down to is, do NOT renew your contract. Let it expire and stay on the month-to-month contract. Anything that makes you renew your contract to a new 2-year contract with Verizon WILL make you lose your unlimited data.
Since I purchased my RAZR outside of Verizon, I didn't renew my contract with Verizon, hence I kept my unlimited data and will continue to do so until I decide to take a subsidized upgrade through Verizon or leave them and come back at a later time. Otherwise, I will keep my unlimited data plan for as long as I please.
In the end, it IS cheaper in the long run to purchase the phone at full retail price because you'll pay MORE for it through the extra costs of the tiered data plan and the two-year binding contract.
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What he ^ said!
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Here is the quick run down. If you have unlimited data and upgrade after June 28th. You have to switch to tiered data pricing(2gb which is $30 or higher). If you have an upgrade now do it before June 28th! If you want to stick with unlimited and be grandfathered in the future. You have to either pay full retail price for the phone from verizon(which will have 1 year warranty) or buy phones from ebay, craigslist, swappa or other places which does not require any contract.
I am a Verizon employee. Ask me any question that you might have. I can clarify and help you guys as much as I can.
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Here is the quick run down. If you have unlimited data and upgrade after June 28th. You have to switch to tiered data pricing(2gb which is $30 or higher). If you have an upgrade now do it before June 28th! If you want to stick with unlimited and be grandfathered in the future. You have to either pay full retail price for the phone from verizon(which will have 1 year warranty) or buy phones from ebay, craigslist, swappa or other places which does not require any contract.
I am a Verizon employee. Ask me any question that you might have. I can clarify and help you guys as much as I can.
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How will this work for family share plans?
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I have the t-mobile unlimited everything plan I'm paying $93 a month with tax. I'm not really into the crap t-mobile is pulling. They may get their act together in a couple of years from now. Realistically i want to buy my phone outright instead of being locked into a contract while maintaining a non prepaid account. On average I use about 2-3.5 gbs of data a month. Also I may in fact buy a phone at a discounted rate whichever plan monthly makes more sense. I'm also looking at sprint. ATT coverage is not great in my area. T-mobiles is so is verizon's. So what do you think?
Maybe its late at night but im not sure on what your trying to ask. Tmobile switched up how their plans work, you pretty much buy the phone out right (or pay like $200 down and $20 a month until the phone is paid off) and the plans have no contract, your contract is paying off the phone. For unlimited everything at $93 is not bad at all, going to verizon you will not have unlimited data unless you where grandfathered into it. I like verizon's cell reception a lot more than other companies including tmobile (i use to be on t-mobile). may i ask what kind of crap they are giving you?
I just switched from t mobile to Verizon on sunday. I do pay like $5 more a month for 3 line then what I did for 4 but the coverage is better along with call clarity. So far I am happy with the decision the only warning I have is if you get the S4 from verizon do not accept the OTA update stay on MDK. I didn't know that untill after the fact.
The update to my understanding locks the bootloader so you can't flash a custom recovery but u can still root and it drains the battery.
Hope this helps u with ur decision
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+1 on Verizon...switched from Sprint unlimited and I have a 6GB plan. only kicks in when not on wifi....at home and work most of the time..
I have 3 family members on verizon share everything with a 10 gb limit.
It runs me 250 a month (got insurance on all phones).
Daughter streams a lot, first day sucked down 800 mbs of data in the car. That stopped immediately. No streaming is the rule at the present but at this point between all 3 phones and 20 days into the service we're about 2.5 gb total. So there's definitely a happy medium there. We can hotspot also, but my other daughter just streams netflix and the like.
So really, I might go for the 15 gb plan which would be another 50 bucks and probably not worry too much about streaming.
I recently switched from Tmobile using the nexus 4 and have to say Verizon makes T-mobile look pathetic, my data and voice are so much better now T-mobile is for people with bad credit lol
Not sure if anyone really cares or not but I just knocked $105 off my AT&T Family plan bill with their new Mobile Share Value Plans.
I'm not a sales agent for AT&T, I'm just letting my fellow XDA users know.
https://www.att.com/shop/wireless/data-plans.html#fbid=K-dU-76XrWB
This is a real deal if you have a large family plan like i do with 5 lines and all smartphones. I was able to lower my bill to $192 a month from $306 the previous month with one phone call. And even better we are getting 10gigs a month now vs the 6gigs i was on.
I know I'm going to take some heat for spamming the board but if one person saves some money I'll be happy
ok flame away
Not sure if its worth giving up an unlimited data plan for this plan.
Ya, I saw those plans, heck, it's even worth it for just 2 lines and 10Gig, $100+$15+$15=$130. I am paying 70 for my single line and only 2gig of data. I know, everyone will tell me to go to a prepay, but I HAVE to have the microcell so I am stuck.
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Not sure if its worth giving up an unlimited data plan for this plan.
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yeah .. unfortunately we lost are unlimited plans back in 2009 when we all got iPhone's
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yeah .. unfortunately we lost are unlimited plans back in 2009 when we all got iPhone's
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Unl plans are caped at 3 GB... Then u get the slowest speed...
10 GB = $100 + 15 per device
15 GB = $130 + 15 per device
Completely worth it. Now if you do an upgrade after moving to the plan instead of paying 15 for that line you will pay 40... they are trying to cope somehow how T-Mobile works.
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I went ahead and jumped on this. I had to give up 1 unlimited (LTE) data plan, which was throttled after 5GBs anyway. I think it's worth it to save $90/month.
We went to the value plan. Only two lines, so no massive savings. Went to from 6 to 10 GB for $10 cheaper
I was under the impression that once you switched to one of these plans, you no longer would get subsidized phone upgrades. Correct? In other words, the next time you want to upgrade you basically are on the AT&T Next setup (full unsubsidized price of phone broken out over x payments)
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I was under the impression that once you switched to one of these plans, you no longer would get subsidized phone upgrades. Correct? In other words, the next time you want to upgrade you basically are on the AT&T Next setup (full unsubsidized price of phone broken out over x payments)
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This is correct. Also, if you have currently been in contract for 6 months, they will allow a switch to AT&T Next. I feel it will not be long before they completely go to this method, especially with T-Mobile and others doing much the same.
Ive held on to my 2 line unlimited everything plan for years, paying about $185 before taxes and fees. I think it makes sense to go for this new plan, which drops the price down to $150 while sharing 10gigs. i've only ever gone over 3gigs in a month two times.
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This is correct. Also, if you have currently been in contract for 6 months, they will allow a switch to AT&T Next. I feel it will not be long before they completely go to this method, especially with T-Mobile and others doing much the same.
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Okay, so if that is the case, it seems like you will only save money if you do not intend to take advantage of subsidized upgrades in the future (assuming still available).
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Okay, so if that is the case, it seems like you will only save money if you do not intend to take advantage of subsidized upgrades in the future (assuming still available).
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From a purely monetary standpoint, yes - however, when you compare the data that you receive (10 GB vs 4/6GB), you are still saving money if you use that much data. But without taking advantage of the subsidized upgrades, you would most likely even out.
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I was under the impression that once you switched to one of these plans, you no longer would get subsidized phone upgrades. Correct? In other words, the next time you want to upgrade you basically are on the AT&T Next setup (full unsubsidized price of phone broken out over x payments)
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Do you remember where you heard this? It's the first I've heard about this aspect to the new plans, which means I may regret making the switch.
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Do you remember where you heard this? It's the first I've heard about this aspect to the new plans, which means I may regret making the switch.
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My understanding from the AT&T rep (and my bill) is that each smartphone in the value plans are now $40 per month with a $25 monthly credit, so net $15.
If I upgrade using a Next plan, the $25 credit remains. (Next = a 0% interest loan to purchase the phone over 20 months.)
If I upgrade using a 2-year subsidy, the $25 credit is removed. (Making for a really expensive upgrade-- 24 * $25 + $200 up front = $800 for an iPhone 5S that I could purchase outright for $650.) Not that I'd purchase a 5S, but just an example of how an already overpriced phone just got even more expensive.
Basically, they really do not want people buying subsidized phones, and that's fine with me. I'd rather purchase the phone I want on my own timing and pay for it outright.
Up until the value plans it made sense to do 2-year upgrades because AT&T was already padding their rate plans with the subsidy cost, whether you upgraded or BYOP you paid for it.
Now, it makes more sense to just BYOP.
Yes you have to stay on the next plan, ability to get a new phone yearly or 18 months, to keep the $15/month. I also saved 50% on my phone bill.
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ronf1011 said:
Yes you have to stay on the next plan, ability to get a new phone yearly or 18 months, to keep the $15/month. I also saved 50% on my phone bill.
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This is good news, I was worried that when i upgraded with NEXT it would go from $15 to $40. I guess I should have read into it a little more, but yeah, my family is saving close to $100 since we switched to the value plan.
Love this plan. Switched to it immediately.
The Next program is basically a phone leasing program. So if you pay $30/month for Next18, that $540 is gone when you trade in for the new one. It would be cheaper buying the phone out right then sell it when you wanted to get a new one.
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The Next program is basically a phone leasing program. So if you pay $30/month for Next18, that $540 is gone when you trade in for the new one. It would be cheaper buying the phone out right then sell it when you wanted to get a new one.
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+1 and you are still dealing with the bloat. Going unlocked from here on out. These value plans are nice. Thanks @t-mobile! ? and AT&T for falling in line..
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I changed to the shared plan two months ago, losing my useless unlimited plan. I moved 5 phones. Two of them were eligible for upgrades at the time, but I was holding them for when I really wanted them. I need one now. I went to the ATT website and checked upgrade-ability. The two phones seem like they have subsidized plans available to them. I can also do the Next plan for any of my phones for the same price. So I can pay zero interest for 20 months, have no plan commitment, and pay in full for my daughter's new iphone over 20 months, or I can pay $199 for the phone, a one-time $36 upgrade fee, and commit for another two years of my shared plan. There is no change to the basic rate.
thinking of waiting to buy the g4 but if the price is too high, then im not looking to wait like a month and a half hopeing the price drops.
does anybody know how much the lg g3 was when it first came out? specificly on verizon?
Figured it out.
It was 99$ for 2 year contract with verizon.
It was 199$ for 2 year contract with atnt, sprint, and T-Mobile.
Thanks me!
Phurkus said:
Figured it out.
It was 99$ for 2 year contract with verizon.
It was 199$ for 2 year contract with atnt, sprint, and T-Mobile.
Thanks me!
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Full retail was $599 on Verizon. $99 doesn't sound right, are you sure that was when it was initially announced? High end phones are almost always $199 to start.
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Full retail was $599 on Verizon. $99 doesn't sound right, are you sure that was when it was initially announced? High end phones are almost always $199 to start.
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thank you i left full retal, and im sure, i checked afew websites. il post a link to them right now.
it was a special that verizon was doing for a limited time when the g3 first came out, gimme a sec.
geoff5093 said:
Full retail was $599 on Verizon. $99 doesn't sound right, are you sure that was when it was initially announced? High end phones are almost always $199 to start.
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here you go, articles posted July 10, 2014
http://www.ibtimes.com/lg-g3-verizon-will-cost-only-99-1624634
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/07/1...-pricing-and-availability-pre-order-now-live/
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here you go, articles posted July 10, 2014
http://www.ibtimes.com/lg-g3-verizon-will-cost-only-99-1624634
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/07/1...-pricing-and-availability-pre-order-now-live/
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Wow that was a good deal, I hate not being able to upgrade anymore every 2 years with unlimited data.
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Wow that was a good deal, I hate not being able to upgrade anymore every 2 years with unlimited data.
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what plan are you under?
mine expires on the 25th, so im gonna wait alittle and see the prices of the g4
geoff5093 said:
Wow that was a good deal, I hate not being able to upgrade anymore every 2 years with unlimited data.
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what plan are you under?
mine expires on the 25th, so im gonna wait alittle and see the prices of the g4
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If you're with Verizon (which I assume since you are posting in here), tell them you want the 6gb Max Plan. It's $30 a month, giving you 6gb a month. It's for all users who upgrade and have to lose their unlimited data plan. That's what I did. I didn't know about it until the sales person I spoke with on the phone gave me that information. I stated I hated losing my unlimited plan and they said that there was a 6gb MAX Plan for people like me. It was still in effect and all you had to do was ask. Since I wasn't going to the share everything plan, it fit for me just fine.
Now, in my case, I ordered my g3 online ($39) but had it set for store pick up. The store couldn't do my 6gb plan, but all I had to do was once I got my phone, I just had to call back up on the phone and talk to a customer support person and they switched me right up. Took about 5 minutes and that was it. Very simple and I've been happy with it ever since. The G3 was worth it.
I don't go over the 6gb at all. I've come close, but I really haven't had to curb what I do online other than I don't constantly stream movies anymore unless I'm on wifi. Hasn't been much of an adjustment and I'm happy with what I've got.
So, that might be an option for you depending on how much data you use a month. If you never get near 6 gb at all (or only on a rare occasion), that might be the option for you.
Phurkus said:
what plan are you under?
mine expires on the 25th, so im gonna wait alittle and see the prices of the g4
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If you're with Verizon (which I assume since you are posting in here), tell them you want the 6gb Max Plan. It's $30 a month, giving you 6gb a month. It's for all users who upgrade and have to lose their unlimited data plan. That's what I did. I didn't know about it until the sales person I spoke with on the phone gave me that information. I stated I hated losing my unlimited plan and they said that there was a 6gb MAX Plan for people like me. It was still in effect and all you had to do was ask. Since I wasn't going to the share everything plan, it fit for me just fine.
Now, in my case, I ordered my g3 online ($39) but had it set for store pick up. The store couldn't do my 6gb plan, but all I had to do was once I got my phone, I just had to call back up on the phone and talk to a customer support person and they switched me right up. Took about 5 minutes and that was it. Very simple and I've been happy with it ever since. The G3 was worth it.
I don't go over the 6gb at all. I've come close, but I really haven't had to curb what I do online other than I don't constantly stream movies anymore unless I'm on wifi. Hasn't been much of an adjustment and I'm happy with what I've got.
So, that might be an option for you depending on how much data you use a month. If you never get near 6 gb at all (or only on a rare occasion), that might be the option for you.
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I'm on a 450 minute, unlimited text, and unlimited data plan. I got in on a promo they were running which was $69.99/mo, but add in my employee discount and I only pay $64/mo after tax. I believe I lose this if I change plans. Even if I didn't, going from unlimited to 6GB is an awful plan, unless my bill was half the cost. I'd rather go with unlimited voice/text, and 20GB of data and use Cricket for $55/mo.
I got in on the upgrade glitch a year or so ago, so I am actually under contract until this October.
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I'm on a 450 minute, unlimited text, and unlimited data plan. I got in on a promo they were running which was $69.99/mo, but add in my employee discount and I only pay $64/mo after tax. I believe I lose this if I change plans. Even if I didn't, going from unlimited to 6GB is an awful plan, unless my bill was half the cost. I'd rather go with unlimited voice/text, and 20GB of data and use Cricket for $55/mo.
I got in on the upgrade glitch a year or so ago, so I am actually under contract until this October.
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For me, I'm on an old plan that is unlimited text, 700 minute plan. It's old and out-dated as well, but I'm grandfathered in and had it before I even got a data plan. When I eventually did get a data plan, they still had unlimited data at $29.99/month.
For me, yeah not having unlimited down to 6gb seemed bad, but I rarely ever used 5 gb per month anyways, so it really wasn't a loss and I still have my same wireless plan. I'm still 700 minutes a month, unlimited text, but now 6gb/month data plan. Otherwise, I would have had to purchase the phone outright and I wasn't about to do that and my previous phone was on the fritz, so I had to have a new phone or I was out of a cell phone.
So for me, it was a no-brainer and still allowed em to not have to worry about going over my data limit. It was that or get 2gb/month for $30. $30 for 6gb seemed the better deal!
I still get my employee discount, but not on the data plan anymore (like I did with the unlimited), so yeah, my monthly bill went up about $4, but in the end, it was still fine by me.
It all depends on each person's perspective. Losing the unlimited was a bummer, but for me, the 6gb/month was just fine and I got a really good phone out of it for $30. So, I'm not complaining, but it all depends on each person's perspective. I was just throwing the 6gb MAX plan out there as not everyone knows about it. I didn't until they told me. Just wanted to give people some "potential" options for those sitting on the fence on whether or not to give up their unlimited data plan. My main factor was, no way in heck was I going to a 2gb/month plan but I was about to anyways as I had no choice in the matter. My wife wouldn't allow me to purchase a phone outright, even though in the end, it would end up being cheaper in the long run, but when she sees that $300+ upfront-cost for a phone, nope! Tried to explain to her, but she saw the $30 price tag on the upgrade so that's all she wrote on that! LOL!
But, once I found out about the 6gb/plan, that pushed me over the fence to go ahead and upgrade my phone to the LG G3. Not unhappy in the least.
I would say I believe the most I ever used in a month was 13gb. I think it's because I let my daughter watch some movies on my phone during a vacation trip. But that was it. Most of the time, it was less then 5 gb/month, if that. I'd say on average I used < 2gb/month.
So, going to 6gb/month wasn't any sort of loss in my mind. Still feel that way.
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For me, I'm on an old plan that is unlimited text, 700 minute plan. It's old and out-dated as well, but I'm grandfathered in and had it before I even got a data plan. When I eventually did get a data plan, they still had unlimited data at $29.99/month.
For me, yeah not having unlimited down to 6gb seemed bad, but I rarely ever used 5 gb per month anyways, so it really wasn't a loss and I still have my same wireless plan. I'm still 700 minutes a month, unlimited text, but now 6gb/month data plan. Otherwise, I would have had to purchase the phone outright and I wasn't about to do that and my previous phone was on the fritz, so I had to have a new phone or I was out of a cell phone.
So for me, it was a no-brainer and still allowed em to not have to worry about going over my data limit. It was that or get 2gb/month for $30. $30 for 6gb seemed the better deal!
I still get my employee discount, but not on the data plan anymore (like I did with the unlimited), so yeah, my monthly bill went up about $4, but in the end, it was still fine by me.
It all depends on each person's perspective. Losing the unlimited was a bummer, but for me, the 6gb/month was just fine and I got a really good phone out of it for $30. So, I'm not complaining, but it all depends on each person's perspective. I was just throwing the 6gb MAX plan out there as not everyone knows about it. I didn't until they told me. Just wanted to give people some "potential" options for those sitting on the fence on whether or not to give up their unlimited data plan. My main factor was, no way in heck was I going to a 2gb/month plan but I was about to anyways as I had no choice in the matter. My wife wouldn't allow me to purchase a phone outright, even though in the end, it would end up being cheaper in the long run, but when she sees that $300+ upfront-cost for a phone, nope! Tried to explain to her, but she saw the $30 price tag on the upgrade so that's all she wrote on that! LOL!
But, once I found out about the 6gb/plan, that pushed me over the fence to go ahead and upgrade my phone to the LG G3. Not unhappy in the least.
I would say I believe the most I ever used in a month was 13gb. I think it's because I let my daughter watch some movies on my phone during a vacation trip. But that was it. Most of the time, it was less then 5 gb/month, if that. I'd say on average I used < 2gb/month.
So, going to 6gb/month wasn't any sort of loss in my mind. Still feel that way.
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If that worked for you that's great, but with your loss of discount you are paying more for 6GB vs unlimited. When you factor in the cost of a phone which is ~$20-$25/mo., paying $15 more per month for unlimited data vs 6GB is a steal. Especially with how content heavy everything is now, higher quality streaming, 4K video, etc., your usage is only going to go up.
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If that worked for you that's great, but with your loss of discount you are paying more for 6GB vs unlimited. When you factor in the cost of a phone which is ~$20-$25/mo., paying $15 more per month for unlimited data vs 6GB is a steal. Especially with how content heavy everything is now, higher quality streaming, 4K video, etc., your usage is only going to go up.
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Since having it in December, I've been fine with the normal usage that I've always done. Never hit more than 3 gb/month, so for me, it works.
For me, this was a decision I'm fine with, but I'm sure others will have different opinions on it, which is fine. Again, like I said, it all depends on the perspective of each person. In my case, I had no choice. I had to upgrade because my other phone died and I need a cell phone for my family to contact me at any time, plus other personal reasons (not gaming - LOL).
So, to me, 6gb/month at $30 is the same as the $30/month I was paying for unlimited (well, $29/month), but in the end, it all worked out for me.