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In case anyone's interested...
http://content.modaco.net/EPE54BvsERE36B.html
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Can anyone tell us little people what this means?
i think the blue highlighted lines are the changed files
Yeah, do tell in layman terms to us "smallies" ;-)
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White = matching, green = changed.
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Interesting to note a file for AT&T compatability in this build!
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paulobrien said:
Interesting to note a file for AT&T compatability in this build!
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Wonder what that addition does.
jchap2k said:
Wonder what that addition does.
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maybe it support at&t 3g
i can dream
Nobody seem to have noticed that EPE54B is signed with test-keys and ERE36B with release keys...
Are the apk's also not throwing a lot of useless debug output ?
Not running it!
In my experience most of android throws out useless debug crap.
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hjlow said:
maybe it support at&t 3g
i can dream
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Won't happen on the devices released to the public because our radio isn't capable of using the ATT3G bands, but they may be releasing a flavor that's compatible with ATT.
Just a guess.
tokyomonster said:
Won't happen on the devices released to the public because our radio isn't capable of using the ATT3G bands, but they may be releasing a flavor that's compatible with ATT.
Just a guess.
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Couldn't this just be resolved with a radio update from Google. I mean GSM is GSM, it's about receiving the right bandwidth which is controlled by the radio. Unless I am missing something, I believe google could push out an update for the radio that supported both TMO and ATT's 3G bandwidth.
You need the right antennas. Hardware.
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paulobrien said:
You need the right antennas. Hardware.
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That's too bad...
Since we're on the subject...will ATT's radio support TMobile bands?
SiNJiN76 said:
Since we're on the subject...will ATT's radio support TMobile bands?
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No, ATT and t-mobile run their 3G on complete different bands, so there's no compatibility between the two with existing hardware(that I know of).
Of course voice and EDGE will still function fine on the same phone between both carriers, but you'll need a phone that supports the specific bands for the carrier you're intending to use 3G on if you want it to work.
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No, ATT and t-mobile run their 3G on complete different bands, so there's no compatibility between the two with existing hardware(that I know of).
Of course voice and EDGE will still function fine on the same phone between both carriers, but you'll need a phone that supports the specific bands for the carrier you're intending to use 3G on if you want it to work.
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I'm sure he was just pulling your leg... no one's stupid enough to ask that question when it's been answered repeatedly, most recently two posts above his own.
Hey guys, I feel like a big ole newb BUT whats the difference in the radios section between the CDMA listing and the LTE listing for the radios md5's?
htcdesirezgeorge said:
Hey guys, I feel like a big ole newb BUT whats the difference in the radios section between the CDMA listing and the LTE listing for the radios md5's?
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Diff between CDMA and LTE radios:
CDMA for voice and LTE for data.
Flash both if you want to update both.
Diff between CDMA and LTE radio md5's:
A lot of numbers and letters
Your device has 6 radios inside it. 2 cdma and one LTE. The cdma radio serves the radio on the snapdragon. The LTE serves the one on the mdm9600.
Honestly, I think its funny that they are being listed that way.
Being that 3G and LTE are on the same radio, and voice is on another
adrynalyne said:
Honestly, I think its funny that they are being listed that way.
Being that 3G and LTE are on the same radio, and voice is on another
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True.... but what else could you call them? The MSM8655 and MDM9600? I mean, the bootloader at least calls the one the MDM9K.... like anyone would just know what that is if they didn't know the chip models.
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True.... but what else could you call them? The MSM8655 and MDM9600? I mean, the bootloader at least calls the one the MDM9K.... like anyone would just know what that is if they didn't know the chip models.
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Hey that works for me
adrynalyne said:
Hey that works for me
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Me too, but do you think you get some stupid questions now? I can't imagine how bad it would get if chip numbers became the norm.
another (possibly) stupid question for you specifically, adrynalyne.
the radio downloads you always post in your radio thread (over at team bamf) have both radios rolled into one package, correct? you never link them as two separate downloads, so i assume this is the case.
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another (possibly) stupid question for you specifically, adrynalyne.
the radio downloads you always post in your radio thread (over at team bamf) have both radios rolled into one package, correct? you never link them as two separate downloads, so i assume this is the case.
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It doesn't take Adrynalyne to answer that. Yes, his radio posts include both radios as they appear in a given RUU.
Hi all,
I'm a proud owner of Samsung Galaxy S and I have been using it last 22 months. I could have recontacted my phone for free last month (end of 21 months) but I was eagerly waiting to get the Galazy S3 LTE version. I'm with Singtel Singapore.
Finally last Saturday they released and I found out that that version don't have FM Radio. It's a International Quad Core with 2GB Ram seems. I really miss FM Radio. I'm a radio fan (Yeah still )
So my question is FM Radio supports depends on Hardware? (I'm not talking about streaming. Real radio we have in S, S2 and can be use even without data). Is it like they removed some chip so it's no longer possible? Or just some software related things which can be fixable in the future?
Can anyone shed some lights on this issue for me? Thanks!
I searched Internet and I found a interesting pattern. It seems all Samsung LTE variants doesn't have FM Radio. In Singapore I checked Galaxy S2 LTE and Galaxy Note LTE and both don't have.
Anyone from US or other countries can confirm this? There are lot of other countries S3 LTE released long ago. Can you confirm you have or not? Also is there anyone have FM Radio with LTE version? I read somewhere Korean version have it but I don't know how true that news....
Also my initial question is it a Hardware thing?
There is an app called Spirit FM that has a thread here on XDA. Basically its a root app that supports FM radio on as many devices as possible and there is a listing there of what devices support it and what devices lack hardware.
spunker88 said:
There is an app called Spirit FM that has a thread here on XDA. Basically its a root app that supports FM radio on as many devices as possible and there is a listing there of what devices support it and what devices lack hardware.
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Thanks for the reply. I'm aware of that app and even tried on my Galaxy S.
But my question is FM support depends on hardware (Like a fm receiver) or purely depends on software? Why LTE phones don't have FM radio?
Anyone from Kore confirms whether they have the FM radio in LTE version??
There is a radio which actually depends on mobile signal whether it is gsm or lte and there are also radio which depends on hardwares,like fm/am radio transceivers, however on some phones like those with tv apps and radio apps most likely on phone with dual sims and with adjustable antennas (like an aluminum rod which is connected to radio chips itself and adjustable, or you can see this at the back of the phone, they are software and hardware related. As for the phone which supports lte signal, maybe some of them dont have it but most of them have, i got one on my phone and without earplugs, it cannot be switch on but once earphones or external speakers have been connected it would start scanning signals, unlike those with built in hardwares they can however with the use of the adjustable antennas.
If however i am wrong on my info, i would be glad to be corrected.
Goodluck
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justnoone said:
There is a radio which actually depends on mobile signal whether it is gsm or lte and there are also radio which depends on hardwares,like fm/am radio transceivers, however on some phones like those with tv apps and radio apps most likely on phone with dual sims and with adjustable antennas (like an aluminum rod which is connected to radio chips itself and adjustable, or you can see this at the back of the phone, they are software and hardware related. As for the phone which supports lte signal, maybe some of them dont have it but most of them have, i got one on my phone and without earplugs, it cannot be switch on but once earphones or external speakers have been connected it would start scanning signals, unlike those with built in hardwares they can however with the use of the adjustable antennas.
If however i am wrong on my info, i would be glad to be corrected.
Goodluck
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Thanks for the reply. Can I know which phone model you have? Is that phone support LTE too?
Mine is GT-I9300 quad core or s3 international,and yup, it supports lte too,since the place where i am currently at is throwing 4g/lte network signal.
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Hi kathees, sorry to say Galaxy S III LTE doesn't support FM Radio Chipset (HW).
alex3977 said:
Hi kathees, sorry to say Galaxy S III LTE doesn't support FM Radio Chipset (HW).
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Hi Alex, Thats'w a bad news to hear Anyway there is no way and just have to live with it. Thanks for the information...
BTW which version phone you have? Korean?
the s3 is the same build in europe and america, but because samsung couldnt get lte working with their processor in time, they used a different one in the US. most of you know this. europe is finally starting to get 4g right? (took you long enough), do you think well see the exact same model released (with just maybe different radio bands) in both?
as an american phone user, you either buy the international phone and and get development, or you buy the US one and get monster LTE 50mbps.. i want both. its not just our side that would benefit tho. development wouldnt be split between regions, it could all be shared and collaborated. well im asking if you think itll happen, not convincing you why its a good idea lol..
so do you guys think itll happen?
Most probably yes, samsung was not ready with lte based exynos soc when s3 was launched, hence the variation. If you see note 2 the spec is almost same everywhere
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Will the different LTE frequencies still not cause an issue then?
With each carrier having there own model?
Mike Blitz said:
Will the different LTE frequencies still not cause an issue then?
With each carrier having there own model?
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lol that does raise new problems that didnt exist before.. i dont know what frequencies you guys will use, but i dont think that really matters much.. every carrier will have their own radio im sure. but as long as the rest of the phone is the same, development wont matter.. just as you can flash firmware XXYZ with modem XXAB and there wont be any problems, you could flash SGS4 firmware XXXDA with any number of modems.
its also possible that samsung could release a modem with multi regional support, so all carriers could use it.. but i dont really see this happening.
As well as using different frequencies, the USA uses two completely technologies namely gsm and CDMA.
Maybe in time, the chips used in phones will be small enough to work on all the frequencies/technologies.
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Besides the obvious model number, what are the differences in hardware and firmware between the two.
They seem identical my cousin has the galaxy note 2 at&t and I have the i605 Verizon gn2 maybe the network receivers are different
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Besides the obvious model number, what are the differences in hardware and firmware between the two.
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A lot...Verizon (and Sprint) uses CDMA frequencies and radios and AT&T (and T-Mobile) uses GSM frequencies and radios
KennyG123 said:
A lot...Verizon (and Sprint) uses CDMA frequencies and radios and AT&T (and T-Mobile) uses GSM frequencies and radios
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I understand the obvious here but I currently have the verizon 605 and I'm on at&t so it would seem that it can be on any carrier considering the n2 uses a lot of freqs. I'm talking about actual hardware differences. I might need to do some research on my own with this one. But if anyone else can help with this would be appreciated.
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I understand the obvious here but I currently have the verizon 605 and I'm on at&t so it would seem that it can be on any carrier considering the n2 uses a lot of freqs. I'm talking about actual hardware differences. I might need to do some research on my own with this one. But if anyone else can help with this would be appreciated.
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Verizon model doesn't have what it needs to be on AT&T LTE. I believe the way the memory is partitioned is different as well.
Just out of curiosity, why are you wanting to know?
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BluGuy said:
Verizon model doesn't have what it needs to be on AT&T LTE. I believe the way the memory is partitioned is different as well.
Just out of curiosity, why are you wanting to know?
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I am a hardware guy. I'm also considering finding out how they tick and make my own custom rom to maybe figure this out and streamline a rom that will be custom only to the note 2 regardless of carrier. i mean its out there that the note 2 will work on any carrier regardless of model because I'm on my 605 running an att rom on att carrier.
drarkanex said:
I understand the obvious here but I currently have the verizon 605 and I'm on at&t so it would seem that it can be on any carrier considering the n2 uses a lot of freqs. I'm talking about actual hardware differences. I might need to do some research on my own with this one. But if anyone else can help with this would be appreciated.
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The main differences are the included radios
Verizon: http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3926
AT&T: http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3918
Of course firmware will be very different because of interfacing with the radios
KennyG123 said:
The main differences are the included radios
Verizon: http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3926
AT&T: http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3918
Of course firmware will be very different because of interfacing with the radios
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^ Thanks for this.
Thinking out loud here, not sure why Samsung wouldn't be able to have one radio that can handle all those different LTE bands. Perhaps this is intentional based on requests from US carriers?
devious_z said:
^ Thanks for this.
Thinking out loud here, not sure why Samsung wouldn't be able to have one radio that can handle all those different LTE bands. Perhaps this is intentional based on requests from US carriers?
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Yes...that sounds like something they would request to try and keep you tied to their carrier or make you buy one of their phones when moving to them.
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^ Thanks for this.
Thinking out loud here, not sure why Samsung wouldn't be able to have one radio that can handle all those different LTE bands. Perhaps this is intentional based on requests from US carriers?
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KennyG123 said:
Yes...that sounds like something they would request to try and keep you tied to their carrier or make you buy one of their phones when moving to them.
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Hmm I am confused here.. doesn't the Verizon note 2 have both GSM and CDMA capabilities, that why is considered a World phone..
I'm pretty certain the main differences is firmare and not hardware. I'll have to check those links Kenny..
I know of people running t mobile on a Verizon note 2 that have everything working perfectly fine and t mobile is GSM. Pop the Sim in, switch mobile networks to GSM, maybe edit apns for lte..but I don't even thunk that is needed once the GSM Sim is in place. This unlocks the add apn feature under access points
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Hmm I am confused here.. doesn't the Verizon note 2 have both GSM and CDMA capabilities, that why is considered a World phone..
I'm pretty certain the main differences is firmare and not hardware. I'll have to check those links Kenny..
I know of people running t mobile on a Verizon note 2 that have everything working perfectly fine and t mobile is GSM. Pop the Sim in, switch mobile networks to GSM, maybe edit apns for lte..but I don't even thunk that is needed once the GSM Sim is in place. This unlocks the add apn feature under access points
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Yes, look at the specs...it has GSM radio too with some frequencies. And no, you cannot flash AT&T firmware on a Verizon phone and have a perfectly working AT&T phone.
KennyG123 said:
Yes, look at the specs...it has GSM radio too with some frequencies. And no, you cannot flash AT&T firmware on a Verizon phone and have a perfectly working AT&T phone.
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No I know that.. I am not saying flashing att firmware would work out of the box, so they say.. I am aware of what it takes to port different firmwares
I'm saying using a att or t mobile Sim is possible.. maybe I wondered off the op's topic here..sorry about that
drarkanex said:
I am a hardware guy. I'm also considering finding out how they tick and make my
own custom rom to maybe figure this out and streamline a rom that will be custom only to the note 2 regardless of carrier. i mean its out there that the note 2 will work on any carrier regardless of model because I'm on my 605 running an att rom on att carrier.
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This is possible.. but not without a pretty intense aroma installer..you'll need to separate different csc features, apps, frameworks, permissions, libs, build.props and vender folders. .but yea. Would be a pretty big task and knowledge of all the carriers
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I know of people running t mobile on a Verizon note 2 that have everything working perfectly fine and t mobile is GSM. Pop the Sim in, switch mobile networks to GSM, maybe edit apns for lte..but I don't even thunk that is needed once the GSM Sim is in place. This unlocks the add apn feature under access points
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Thank you for this tidbit of info. I'm currently trying to figure a way to get my old VZW Note 2 working on Straight Talk for my Dad, who's currently using a 3" Samsung something-or-other P.O.S. I'm going to get the AT&T version of the Straight Talk SIM and try it out since some have reported success with it. If not that one, then maybe the T-Mobile one.
I'll post back with my results (5-10 business days for delivery--yikes!)
P.S. Anyone else out there have a recommendation for a ROM to use for this? I'm going to go with something 4.1.x because I've read that later versions won't work. Jedi X maybe?