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Hi there, sorry if this has been asked before. I did have a quick look (The first post in the FAQ thread) around but couldnt find this question, if it has already been asked please point me in the right direction .
I am looking at purchasing myself a SGS2 soon (Month or so, when the price drops) but I was wondering do you need a Samsung TV to connect it to the SGS2? I currently have a LG 32" and Panasonic 42", will either of these be ok?
Also a side question, which im guessing has been asked before, do I connect to the TV using a HDMI cable or DLNA? Im not exactly sure what DLNA is? is it just connecting to the Tv wirelesly?
Thanks for all the help. Cheers
Hi look here for DLNA http://www.dlna.org/digital_living/how_it_works/
In a nut shell yes its a way of communication between two wifi enabled devices that are DLNA certified . Your TV will have a certificate or state that it is DLNA compliant .
You can stream music , videos , etc to all DLNA devices over the air removing the need for cables.
I personally prefer cables as WiFi can be a hit and miss affair with most interference involving anything on 2.4 ghz will effect performance.
So any DLNA device your Samsung will connect to with the ALL share app
No it doesn't need to be a Samsung TV. Any TV which has a HDMI port would work perfectly fine.
I know it's maybe a little pedantic but you really dont need a tv to have a phone
The only thing a samsung TV one of the later ones will give you is the ability to use the phone as a wifi-remote and control.
DLNA which stands for complete crap, is actually good it's a simple way to stream from source to targets or to be able trigger said stream from targets specified. Best to do a youtube search as it will explain it more.
Most new tv's have dlna server clients built in. HDMI is a faster way to get a stream to play on a tv though so depends.
Side note : The current bit rate for HD vid shot on the phone is actually really crap, 10-13mbits so anything you shoot on the phone would stream over wifi using dlna quite easy. However if you decided to put a 40mbit per second HD movie, streaming over wifi maybe a little hard on all but the best wifi routes/systems. For that you would really want a hdmi out for your sgs2
Neways, hope that helps
Edit : 2 replies in the course of me typing this, must type faster
just be clear here, any TV with a HDMI port will allow picture and sound from the phone, however you are going to have to wait until june to get the adapter to allow this. This adapter (MHL) converts the mini usb port into a data port which will allow usb host, hdmi and charging from a MHL enabled TV (not available yet) and just picture and sound from a normal TV with HDMI.
Thanks for the replies everyobdy. Barry, I wouldnt want to record a video and then show it on Tv, I would most likely be downloading a movie/tv show to my PC, then onto my phone then play it through the TV. That can be done cant it?
Cheers
Edit: Sorry I didnt mean Barry, I meant Dean
Wellynz said:
Thanks for the replies everyobdy. Barry, I wouldnt want to record a video and then show it on Tv, I would most likely be downloading a movie/tv show to my PC, then onto my phone then play it through the TV. That can be done cant it?
Cheers
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If you want to show wirelessly on TV, and the TV is DLNA compliant, you can show directly from PC to TV. You can also throw an HDMI cable from PC to TV if you can.
stoolzo said:
just be clear here, any TV with a HDMI port will allow picture and sound from the phone, however you are going to have to wait until june to get the adapter to allow this. This adapter (MHL) converts the mini usb port into a data port which will allow usb host, hdmi and charging from a MHL enabled TV (not available yet) and just picture and sound from a normal TV with HDMI.
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Thanks for that. So basically what you are saying is currently if I was connecting the phone to a TV using HDMI the sound would come out of the phone and not the TV? However when this adapter gets released the sound will come out of the TV?
If you use DNLA then no, sound and video both will come out of the tv. If you're talking about connecting to tv's HDMI then again no, both sound and video come out of the tv. In other words, if video comes out of the tv, so will sound. If video doesn't come out of the tv, then neither will sound.
Basically you either get both or none lol
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If you use DNLA then no, sound and video both will come out of the tv. If you're talking about connecting to tv's HDMI then again no, both sound and video come out of the tv. In other words, if video comes out of the tv, so will sound. If video doesn't come out of the tv, then neither will sound.
Basically you either get both or none lol
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correct, both send sound and video to the tv digitally.
stoolzo said:
just be clear here, any TV with a HDMI port will allow picture and sound from the phone, however you are going to have to wait until june to get the adapter to allow this. This adapter (MHL) converts the mini usb port into a data port which will allow usb host, hdmi and charging from a MHL enabled TV (not available yet) and just picture and sound from a normal TV with HDMI.
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Is it impossible to charge the phone while connected to a non-MHL TV, or does the adapter have a separate charging pass-through?
The MHL-HDMI adapter has a socket for a charger so you phone will get charged, too.
I am running a Citrix client on my S2 to connect to a Windows system. When I hook it up to a monitor via HDMI I get the same resolution as the phone screen and that is not very usefull.
Since the S2 can output 1080p when playing HD videos I guess it must be possible to somehow make it do that in other cases as well? Would this require modding/hacking the Citrix app, kernel, drivers or something else? Anyone got any clue?
Was wondering if there is any kind of root mod/hack to allow HDMI out when it is blocked by the specific app? For example, I can stream video from many apps out through an MHL-to-HDMI adapter to my TV perfectly. Other apps (like the ATT Uverse app) issue an error popup that says HDMI out is unsupported.
Is this something the app must explicitly support, or is the app specifically blocking this feature, and if so, is there a ROM or hack out there that I can load to overcome this?
S-off running a rooted stock ROM currently..
Thanks.
Hey guys, does anybody know of an app or a method that will allow me to stream video (not YouTube or Netflix) to my Vizio Smart TV? It's a really new TV with all kinds of features...I know I could simply hook up my MacBook to an HDMI port or even stream video via Apple TV, but I don't usually have those things in my living room. I'm just basically hoping to be able to stream a movie playing from an app like Showbox(or something similar to) to my TV, without any wiring. Samsung's screen mirroring feature would be ideal...if it wasn't limited to ONLY working with other Samsung products Anyways...please, if you can let me know of anything you've heard of, or have used that might make this possible, it would be greatly appreciated!!:fingers-crossed:
Unless Vizio has some type of app for their TV that I never heard of, there needs to be hardware plugged into the TV that receives the stream. Cheapest and easiest way to do this with android is a Chromecast, $35 bucks, I believe it can or soon will be able to fully mirror your screen no special root app required.
you can use the mdl to hdmi adapter from Sammy and keep a spare (but hidden) hdmi cable plugged into the tv. As far as wireless Chromcast
Did you find a solution?
Did you find an App solution for this? I recently purchased a Vizio and looking for the same?
Can some one help me play videos from phone to my vizo 70 inch smart tv I've tried everything the closest thing I've come up with is I media share but it doesn't allow me to watch it always states video, audio not supported
You need something on the TV Side - I used Fire TV stick
(You can safely replace Roku, Xbox or other similar streaming devices for Amazon FireTV in below discussion, without affecting the results.)
Here is a familiar situation...
MiBox MDZ-16-AB gives Netflix Tvq-pm100 5.2.5 Error.
replace Mibox with Amazon FireTV box, play same Netflix video, on same TV, without error.
Naive conclusion...........MiBox fails to work with Netflix, MiBox is defective......
Proper conclusion requires adding info to a snap judgement.
Netflix REQUIRES proper DRM to enable HD streams, including the connected TV.
With MiBox, Netflix enforces a 'make or break' philosophy. Either DRM chain is complete or you get error message.
Netflix dictates this behavior.
With Amazon FireTV devices, Netflix allows two possible outcomes:
1-DRM is verified........
Netflix streams at HD resolution.
2-DRM is compromised...........
(usually by a tv that doesn't meet Netflix's DRM requirements)
Netflix streams at SD resolution, but it works, to a degree
Trying to imply existence of valid DRM by simply stating it works with Amazon device represents flawed logic.
DRM is crucial to getting HD streams with EVERY setup. DRM is not needed for only SD streams.
Netflix charges a premium for HD subscriptions.
You can use Netflix created "TEST PATTERNS" video #8 to get an accurate reading of current video resolution.
Conclusion:
99.5 instances of MiBox MDZ-16-AB failing to work with Netflix is due to using a TV that lacks proper DRM to support Netflix's requirements.
References:
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/mdz-16-ab-mibox-3-vs-netflix-study-results.43619/
and
https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201460980
As far as I can tell Netflix's DRM checks are complete voodoo. On my TV downstairs with HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2, I can play Netflix 4K UHD just fine with my Mi Box. In my office, I have HDMI 1.4 4K screens, so I use an HDCP stripper with the same Mi Box. DRM Info (Play Store) shows HDCP enabled at 2.2 level, Widevine DRM supported, Microsoft PlayReady supported, etc. But Netflix is limited to HD 1080p only.
At this point I just wish there'd be a Magisk module that spoofs all DRM-related functionality to being enabled and verified, and I wouldn't even need the HDCP stripper.
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As far as I can tell Netflix's DRM checks are complete voodoo. On my TV downstairs with HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2, I can play Netflix 4K UHD just fine with my Mi Box. In my office, I have HDMI 1.4 4K screens, so I use an HDCP stripper with the same Mi Box. DRM Info (Play Store) shows HDCP enabled at 2.2 level, Widevine DRM supported, Microsoft PlayReady supported, etc. But Netflix is limited to HD 1080p only.
At this point I just wish there'd be a Magisk module that spoofs all DRM-related functionality to being enabled and verified, and I wouldn't even need the HDCP stripper.
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Please name names of your TVs.
Is your other TV a Haier brand or Sylvania or CTL? In my extensive investigation there are certain tv sets whose DRM responses vacillate according to the phases of the moon or change from acceptable to none depending on which hand you used to power on from the remote. Absolutely no rhyme or reason for some screwy tvs.
I imagine you use the HDMI stripper to overcome the fact that DRMINFO and MiBox failed with Netflix. What does the factory spec say about DRM capabilities of your TV? Is there a firmware update available for your TV?
As to the hdmi stripper, these are notorious for being temperamental. Stripper makers are even more clueless and inconsistent when it comes to properly implementing DRM that TV makers are.
Shame, since DRM/HDCP has been an established standard since 2008!!!
Lastly, is there ANY inkling this problem is associated with your MiBox?
Nice idea for the Magisk folks but seems an overwhelming task. Hard to replicate the hardware functions employed by the stripper into software code.
Thanks for your meaningful reply.
The TV is an LG UF640V, and 4K worked immediately after updating the Mi Box to 6.0.1, updating Netflix in the Play Store and rebooting. Nothing else was needed.
My desktop monitor only supports HDMI 1.4 and HDCP 1.1, which is correctly reflected in DRM Info when I connect it directly to the Mi Box. It shows max HDCP version 1.x and active HDCP 1.x. So when I connect through the HDCP stripper it shows HDCP 2.2, and I would expect the 4K option to appear in Netflix, but it doesn't. The HDCP stripper is a Voxlink 4K 3x1 HDMI 2.0 switch from AliExpress.
I doubt the Mi Box itself or its firmware is at fault here, it just looks like something in the HDMI output configuration/handshake is tripping up Widevine and/or Netflix's DRM checks.
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The TV is an LG UF640V, and 4K worked immediately after updating the Mi Box to 6.0.1, updating Netflix in the Play Store and rebooting. Nothing else was needed.
My desktop monitor only supports HDMI 1.4 and HDCP 1.1, which is correctly reflected in DRM Info when I connect it directly to the Mi Box. It shows max HDCP version 1.x and active HDCP 1.x. So when I connect through the HDCP stripper it shows HDCP 2.2, and I would expect the 4K option to appear in Netflix, but it doesn't. The HDCP stripper is a Voxlink 4K 3x1 HDMI 2.0 switch from AliExpress.
I doubt the Mi Box itself or its firmware is at fault here, it just looks like something in the HDMI output configuration/handshake is tripping up Widevine and/or Netflix's DRM checks.
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Netflix would love to send 4K streams to any device that will support them. Its likely Netflix itself has found your monltor's HDMI port unable to support needed data throughput. Netflix is the sole determinant in measuring throughput. It is, at times, at odds with the suggestions reported by drminfo.
I have seen many similar instances of this behavior in various wireshark captures. Netflix is very nosey about evaluating every step from their servers to the ultimate screen.
Thanks for your detailed response.
I actually discovered the real problem: Netflix refuses to do 4K at 24Hz. It will only do it at 60Hz. With or without HDCP stripper makes no difference. Tested on my UF640V: [email protected] -> 4K UHD, [email protected] -> HD only.
People are actually pissed about it because it causes motion judder (duh): SHIELD TV forums - Experience 6 means I can no longer watch Netflix in 4K/24