Something that is catching my attention as i mess with roms, is whenever I first sign into google services the google talk app is immediatly alerting me i have invite requests etc. meaning that app seems to be sitting in the background running and probing for network access. Clearly a battery drain, but I cant find a way to disable this behaviour short of freezing the app in titanium backup.
Have google really been this silly and put an social chat app on the OS that is forcefully always running unless removed?
On GB roms there is an option to not auto sign in, on ICS/JB roms (and also on GB if you update it to hangout app) there is no way to avoid auto signing in.
So am I right the app cannot be turned off, and is there any known ill affects to freezing the app?
Freeze it. It's always the first thing I freeze when I do a clean install.
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Hi
I'm currently having problem with apps they are auto opening themselves.
Sometimes at startup when I open my open and use Helix/ADW all launcher manu apps are open automatically. It eats like 50MB of memory and battery.
And even while my screen turns off it opens app. I was sleeping and my screen is turn off/sleep and I check task panel it got apps open even the screen is lock.
Got No Idea on this. Why my apps are auto opening.
And do I need to debrand?
I just got a unit Unlocked
X10i
Baseband 1.0.14
Build Number R1FA014
Kernel 2.6.29-rel [email protected]#2
Do I really need to debrand?
Does it reset my phone and my settings/apps will be deleted?
TIA
It's not the X10, it's an Android thing.
Then how to get rid of this auto opening app? I never exp. this on 1.5 and 2.1 on my HTC Hero just on this 1.6
Get Automatic Task Killer or something similar, and set it to kill apps on open...if you find the apps opening affects your performance.
Also, if they're apps that sync with a service, make sure all syncing is off, or they'll keep coming up anyway, to try to sync with the cloud.
as a personal anecdote, once I stopped using task killers, the phone started running more stable and quicker.
So Task killers are not good?
I check my Task Panel once i boot my phone tons of APPS are open
Like Bluetooth file transfer
SMS Backup and Restore
Email
Alarm Clock
Calender
Settings Voice Dialer
It opens on startup.
seriously I just boot up my phone and use ADW Launcher and those open up automatically? what does those do? for startup? there are tons more like 25 apps on startup. This thing is not good since I'll do task killing always even the phone is screen off. My phone is opening Voice Dialer Handsent SMS even though i dont have message or calls received.
It's like every min or hour I'll do task killing it kills battery
Well, Alarm Clock has to be on, so it knows when to go off... If you don't have any alarms set, delete all the alarms that are in it.
Email is on by default, since it's a smart phone. If you don't have an account set up, email won't sync, and thus, isn't really doing anything. Calendar will attempt to sync with google if you set it up, but if not, again, shouldn't be doing anything. SMS will start to monitor for incoming SMSes. A lot of services start so they're there when you try to start them up. Basically, anything that has to sync to the internet to update will start automatically.
If things like Photoshop Mobile or a game or something start up, those should be killed.
Stand alone apps that don't access the internet should have no business starting up on their own.
Some people on here claim task killers are great and help a lot... some claim they do nothing. I'm torn, because the phone feels a bit faster than when I used the task killer everytime I unlocked the phone. If your phone is new, cycle the battery a few times, and let it 'break in' and, eventually, the battery life should improve.
Thanks. I'm just a little bit worried that I'm not aware that there are many task opening with me noticing or knowing it and use much battery as I do.
Some apps open automatically
I know that apps auto close ok , here's its invers..
Any how use some task killers frequently to kill them....
Or just unistall them
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Can somebody help me? I am running my xperia x8 and as i know since i rooted and got myself new rom i was wondering why my games work slow but after a little research i found out that official Facebook app is working in background so i unninstaled but now my question is is there someone who has some facebook app non-official which i can run without the problems?
PS: Sorry if spam on this thread but i cant make new threads on this app (or i can but i cannot figure it out)
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gr3yh0und said:
Thanks. I'm just a little bit worried that I'm not aware that there are many task opening with me noticing or knowing it and use much battery as I do.
Some apps open automatically
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Android works by loading EVERYTHING it can into memory, up to a threshold and then removes apps from memory if they're not being used and memory is required for newly initiated applications.
Some apps have a terminate and stay resident approach and are seen as 'services' and they just stay active no matter what. Email, Calendars and status bar and etc never leave memory cause they're all waiting for there big moment, an email, an appointment, a finger touch etc.
Using a task killer doesn't really do anything, cause as soon as you 'kill' the process and the moment there is available memory again the process will just return to active/inactive memory because that's the way Android memory processing works.
If you have root access you can delete/freeze system apps you don't require.
A 'slim' Android v2.3 ROM shouldn't have more than approx 110 system apps. Less that 95 if you're good.
gr3yh0und said:
I check my Task Panel once i boot my phone tons of APPS are open
Like Bluetooth file transfer
SMS Backup and Restore
Email
Alarm Clock
Calender
Settings Voice Dialer​
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Most of the apps you listed are system apps and will, by their nature find there way into memory all the time. That's just how it is.
After a few hours of use many of the non-used apps will drop out of memory and others will take their place.
Loading applications into memory has a time and processing cost and so if it's already in memory, it's quicker to access.
However the Android system doesn't know your usage traits at start-up and that's why some less used system applications may be seem in memory until they're weeded out by those you do use. Again, nothing to worry about,
Using an XPERIA X10i with ~384MB of memory leaves little room for bloatware and thus a lean running machine is the order of the day for the XPERIA X10i.
I've noticed that Google maps is always taking up a big portion of the battery in the battery menu. If I freeze it with titanium would that make a significant difference? I use it seldom enough to go thru the trouble of unfreezing it when needed if it's worth it..
I have the same problem. The only thing about freezing it is that several apps use it. It couldn't hurt to try though. I believe this is a pretty wide spread problem lately.
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I recommend you download a program called autostarts. it's a great little program that lets you stop apps from booting themselves up. you'd be surprised how often the apps on our devices want to boot themselves for no reason- at startup, when you plug the phone in, when you switch to wifi, etc. autostarts doesn't truly freeze the apps, so you can still open them and use them when you WANT to, it just stops them from running in the background for no reason. saves a lot of RAM and batterylife.
edit- here it is- https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts&hl=en
Location Settings
Have you tried modification of the location reporting settings?
In Maps-> Settings-> Location are some settings, disabling them stops the reporting of your device and saves a lot of battery.
Sucky1983 said:
Have you tried modification of the location reporting settings?
In Maps-> Settings-> Location are some settings, disabling them stops the reporting of your device and saves a lot of battery.
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Thanks this will probably do the trick
I have not used the maps app at all today, and my usage shows its been used for an hour and a half. Other than Google now, what should be using maps that often?
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I have not used the maps app at all today, and my usage shows its been used for an hour and a half. Other than Google now, what should be using maps that often?
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It's not like that. Just like whatsapp which stays always on to keep you connected, Google maps also stays on even though you don't open it as a system background process although you don't need it. The best way to remove this is to root your phone and uninstall this 'bloatware'
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RazaVakil7995 said:
It's not like that. Just like whatsapp which stays always on to keep you connected, Google maps also stays on even though you don't open it as a system background process although you don't need it. The best way to remove this is to root your phone and uninstall this 'bloatware'
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There's no need to delete Google Maps. You just need to regain some control from the app. By default it sends location data to Google. This periodic data 'seepage' also seems to have the affect of 'waking' the phone from deep sleep. Silly, especially since Google wrote the damn OS.
Anyway, this issue has been covered in other threads; you should search, there are more precise instructions out there
...or you can rely on my questionable memory; as I recall-
- Go into Google Maps
- Choose Settings
- Choose Location Settings
- Un-check "Report From This Device"
Also, make sure (on same screen) that Enable Location Sharing is NOT checked and that any of the other location-specific items on the same screen are un-checked.
If you're wondering about 'Location Reporting' under Background Location Reporting, mine is set to 'Detect your location' (thus I think this setting is OK).
Try this out. For me, Gmaps no longer uses data (or wakes the phone) unless I'm explicitly using it.
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There's no need to delete Google Maps. You just need to regain some control from the app. By default it sends location data to Google. This periodic data 'seepage' also seems to have the affect of 'waking' the phone from deep sleep. Silly, especially since Google wrote the damn OS.
Anyway, this issue has been covered in other threads; you should search, there are more precise instructions out there
...or you can rely on my questionable memory; as I recall-
- Go into Google Maps
- Choose Settings
- Choose Location Settings
- Un-check "Report From This Device"
Also, make sure (on same screen) that Enable Location Sharing is NOT checked and that any of the other location-specific items on the same screen are un-checked.
If you're wondering about 'Location Reporting' under Background Location Reporting, mine is set to 'Detect your location' (thus I think this setting is OK).
Try this out. For me, Gmaps no longer uses data (or wakes the phone) unless I'm explicitly using it.
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Awesome. Thanks for the help. I set it up the way you suggested and I'll see how it works over the next day or so.
You could the free app Greenify as well. Anything that runs in the background without your permission will get shut down by it.
maddog00 said:
You could the free app Greenify as well. Anything that runs in the background without your permission will get shut down by it.
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Excellent app, but it does require root privileges.
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maddog00 said:
You could the free app Greenify as well. Anything that runs in the background without your permission will get shut down by it.
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It's desirable (to many) to have at least some background apps able to run/consume data. Yes, you can disable all (or ration out when they're 'allowed' to run, but then you lose out on the full capabilities of the device.
Trust me, having come from Sprint and a GS2, I am well versed in shutting down and restricting apps. What I LOVE about my GS4 is that I can let virtually all apps run (within reason, and w/exception of Gmaps as noted above) and I still have 28-40 hour battery cycles.
Just be wary of 'out of control' apps. Tame them, freeze them, or delete them, but only as a last resort would I disable all background apps.
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It's desirable (to many) to have at least some background apps able to run/consume data. Yes, you can disable all (or ration out when they're 'allowed' to run, but then you lose out on the full capabilities of the device.
Trust me, having come from Sprint and a GS2, I am well versed in shutting down and restricting apps. What I LOVE about my GS4 is that I can let virtually all apps run (within reason, and w/exception of Gmaps as noted above) and I still have 28-40 hour battery cycles.
Just be wary of 'out of control' apps. Tame them, freeze them, or delete them, but only as a last resort would I disable all background apps.
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I agree. Just saying. Those apps that you don't want to run, you can tell Greenify which ones to disallow access. A one stop shop, as it were.
maddog00 said:
I agree. Just saying. Those apps that you don't want to run, you can tell Greenify which ones to disallow access. A one stop shop, as it were.
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My bad. For some reason I thought your response said "disable all background apps". Thx for the app tip.
How do I stop google play store and play services from running non stop in the background?? I have my location turned off, and privacy guard turned on, but somehow play services and google maps can get my location? Google play store runs something called "daily hygiene"and all three of these apps restart themselves when I kill them. I don't need play services running, when only the location part of it is running. When I try and disable autostart, receivers, freeze them, use advanced freeze through ROM toolbox, they either revert back instantly, or as soon as the phone reboots. Can anyone tell me how to get this crap to stop running when it's not being used, and stop getting location, or whatever other things I'm trying to keep private?
update
Update what?
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Freeze them with titanium backup. It'll stick through a reboot.
Is there a way to make it stop constantly running in the background and become a cached process without freezing?
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If you do not want to freeze them. You might try Greenify. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155737
Although system app hibernation might only be with the donation package. But I can't remember. Might want to read up on the OP in the link.
Use greenify
yes the best option is to use greenify which stops those apps run in background unnessecerily
Hi all,
I'm still investigating on my battery drain problem apparently related to Google Play services (here a dedicate thread on which I described it: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/help/google-play-services-battery-drain-t3537545 ).
Summing, all things for now are pointing to one, and not so positive, thing: Mobile radio active bug (here more details: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=190396)
After the little introduction, here comes the more general part.. I've found that using the WiFi connection my drain problem is totally gone, more than this, I see that Google Play Services exchanged a lot of background data when I am using mobile data (2G/3G/4G) .
Due to this I tried, from the Google Play Services app settings, to active the "Limit app background data" option and with my pleasure I saw that this was fixing my drain problems also with mobile data!
"All fantastic!" I said.. not at all, doing this I saw that I lost push notifications while receiving messages on whatsapp, messenger, hangout and so on.. and unfortunately this is very inconvenient.
Do you know if there is a way to mantain the "Limit app background data" option on but assuring all the right push notifications functionalities?
Thanks in advance for your answers and for your help.
Have a nice day
If your phone is rooted and xposed ready , you may try greenify to hibernate.
First I thought is it a stupid app which just force closes applications.
But after using it , It just felt different.Phone was blazingly fast , Battery Drain issue was Gone completely.
And I still get push notifications from Whatsapp , Uber , Facebook etc.
It is worth trying greenify even without root.
Cheers