Good day !
I have come across a situation of unknown bootloader of SK17 .
I found some shop in Hong Kong is selling some cheap SK17 (not sure if it is the same as SK17i) . I asked the shop keeper and they said that the bootloader is locked , but without SIM lock .
So , will someone confirm me if this situation is possible ? As I read some post in this form it indicate that locked bootloader is usually because it is branded , i.e. SIM locked . If it is SIM free version does it mean I can make the bootloader unlock ?
And , what if the system shows "Bootloader unlockable ? No" ? Is there any way to work around this issue to make the bootloader unlock ?
Thanks so much !
Rgds,
Kurz
Hi!
A simlock is something totally different to the bootloader´s lock.
No Simlock means that you can use any sim of any provider you like and who´s band is supported by phone´s hardware.
The bootloader ist locked by sony basically to prevent people from removing the sony Firmware even if it is not branded. A second issue is probably to prevent people from unlocking and playing with the firmware who do not know what they do.
Before the lock of the bootloader it was easy for everyone with one-click-tools or similar to root the phone. This could have led to many RMA procedures at Sony
But there must be a possibility to unlock it due to the terms of open source software.
So there is no need for you to unlock the bootloader as it takes any simcard anyway.
What the issue about sk17i sk17 and sk17a is, I do not know yet. But I´m curious about it
hi... how to know that your xperia mini pro unlock already in bootloader?
my rooting status is,
Bootloader unlock allowed: YES
is it already unlock in bootloader?? or not
It meens that it is be allowed to unlock your bootloader. It means not that your bootloader *is* unlocked.
Hi Poedel ,
Yes I understand SIM locked and Bootloader locked is different . But I wish to install 3rd party roms (CM7 rulez) , so I still wish to know how to unlock the bootloader .
So maybe I change a little bit about my question .
1) a sim unlocked device with locked bootloader (bootloader unlock allowed : no) cannot unlock due to the SIM lock . Then will it allow to unlock if the device change to SIM unlocked ?
2) Any method to work around the locked bootloader (bootloader unlock allowed : no)
3) Any way to unlock the bootloader if IMEI code cannot be used to extract the unlock code ? As I know some of the shop will use flash rom writer to wipe with another device firmware and IMEI will changes (it happens last time when I buy a X01HT) .
Thanks a lot !
Rgds,
Kurz
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mkmonkey said:
Hi Poedel ,
Yes I understand SIM locked and Bootloader locked is different . But I wish to install 3rd party roms (CM7 rulez) , so I still wish to know how to unlock the bootloader .
So maybe I change a little bit about my question .
1) a sim unlocked device with locked bootloader (bootloader unlock allowed : no) cannot unlock due to the SIM lock . Then will it allow to unlock if the device change to SIM unlocked ?
this is still confusing The simlock does not take care at all if there is a bootloader-lock or not. I never ask someone if I am allowed, definetly not mr. simlock
2) Any method to work around the locked bootloader (bootloader unlock allowed : no)
3) Any way to unlock the bootloader if IMEI code cannot be used to extract the unlock code ? As I know some of the shop will use flash rom writer to wipe with another device firmware and IMEI will changes (it happens last time when I buy a X01HT) .
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okay, usually you'll go to the sony's dev site bootloaderunlockl.sonyericsson.com (don't know the correct sub, could be correct) and authenticated by your IMEI and email you'll get the unlock code. Without IMEI you won't be able to unlock. But even if you IMEI changed you can try the current IMEI. What I think is that Sony just saves the Email and IMEI into a mySQL Database to cope with the situation if your device enters RMA à la "you unlocked, your fault". It would be rather not the way that they look if your current IMEI really belongs to the device there. I would simply try it. BUT!
There is a post where a method is shown to root your ph0ne without unlocking the bootloader.
So here are both links:
rooting without unlocking not tested by me (even not yet read *covering*)
default way like I did it
Dear Poedel ,
Thanks , that's exactly what I wish to know .
So in worst case if bootloader is not going to unlock in normal way , I should use the test point function to bypass it and flash another room and firmware into it , and unlock the bootloader again ?
Thanks very much !
Regards,
Kurz
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Hello
I currently own an Xperia Live with walkman which I upgraded to 4.0.4 ICS and rooted.
I'm interested on using custom ROMs so I need to unlock the phone's bootloader in order to install custom kernels.
In the service menu of the phone, rooting status says:
Bootloader unlock allowed: NO
I've read on other threads that this means that the phone also has a network lock, so even if I use the test point method to unlock, I won't be able to use fastboot mode.
However on the SIMLOCK menu of the service menu, all locks are disabled (And I confirmed it by installing another sim from a different phone company).
¿How can I unlock the bootloader (for free, hopefully), and will it work on fastboot mode?
I would advise you to try and go to fastmode connecting the phone to the computer while off and holding the volume up key, the notification led should turn on blue that means that you will have no problem flashing custom kernels but you will need to unlock the bootloader using the test point method.
Also you can double check if the boot loader is really locked in the service menu, software info, under the s1 Boot Version you will find something like this: 1241-3656 r9A029 the letter "r" here refers to the state of the bootloader the lower case means it's unlock meanwhile the capital "R" means its locked.
ginryu said:
I would advise you to try and go to fastmode connecting the phone to the computer while off and holding the volume up key, the notification led should turn on blue that means that you will have no problem flashing custom kernels but you will need to unlock the bootloader using the test point method.
Also you can double check if the boot loader is really locked in the service menu, software info, under the s1 Boot Version you will find something like this: 1241-3656 r9A029 the letter "r" here refers to the state of the bootloader the lower case means it's unlock meanwhile the capital "R" means its locked.
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He can't use fastboot, because Bootloader Unlock Allowed: No.
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Someguyfromhell said:
He can't use fastboot, because Bootloader Unlock Allowed: No.
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So, I will never be able to use fastboot?
Even if I unlock the bootloader through test points or the paid method?
Normally, you'd have to unlock it via Wotan Server. It erases SIM lock and unlocks bootloader. Don't know why your phone is already SIM unlocked, though.
Hi,
I have same problem, Bootloader unlock allowed: NO
On every test point tutorial I saw "if Bootloader unlock allowed: YES, than you can continue doing TP".
I want to unlock it, so I can flash CM9.
Can I still use TP to unlock my bootloader?
No, bootloader cannot be unlocked if fastboot is disabled.
The only way to enable fastboot right now is via paid method, which also uses the test point method. I am not sure, but I have heard that in some cases, that method unlocks the bootloader aswell.
So, no custom ROMs for me
So what's the verdict here?
Even though on my LWW I have Bootloader unlock allowed: NO I did the testpoint method to unlock the bootloader and it passed. Afterwards I have S1 Boot Version: r9A021 (notice the r) which means the bootloader is unlocked AFAIK. However I still have no access to fastboot. I can confirm that the phone is simlocked, and before having to pay to get it simunlocked, I want to make sure that doing so will finally enable fastboot.
Again, will having the phone sim-unlocked enable the bootloader to be unlocked, and more importantly gain access to fastboot?
So what's the verdict here?
Even though on my LWW I have Bootloader unlock allowed: NO I did the testpoint method to unlock the bootloader and it passed. Afterwards I have S1 Boot Version: r9A021 (notice the r) which means the bootloader is unlocked AFAIK. However I still have no access to fastboot. I can confirm that the phone is simlocked, and before having to pay to get it simunlocked, I want to make sure that doing so will finally enable fastboot.
Again, will having the phone sim-unlocked enable the bootloader to be unlocked, and more importantly gain access to fastboot?
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Afaik,fastboot will be enabled if the phone is sim-unlock?
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s1m4an said:
So what's the verdict here?
Even though on my LWW I have Bootloader unlock allowed: NO I did the testpoint method to unlock the bootloader and it passed. Afterwards I have S1 Boot Version: r9A021 (notice the r) which means the bootloader is unlocked AFAIK. However I still have no access to fastboot. I can confirm that the phone is simlocked, and before having to pay to get it simunlocked, I want to make sure that doing so will finally enable fastboot.
Again, will having the phone sim-unlocked enable the bootloader to be unlocked, and more importantly gain access to fastboot?
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UchihaDareNial said:
Afaik,fastboot will be enabled if the phone is sim-unlock?
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Yes, the bootloader is unlocked, but fastboot is still disabled and phone SIM-locked. The only way to enable fastboot is via paid method.
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Someguyfromhell said:
Yes, the bootloader is unlocked, but fastboot is still disabled and phone SIM-locked. The only way to enable fastboot is via paid method.
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That's exactly what I am asking. If the phone gets sim-unlocked, does that mean that fastboot will be enabled? What paid method are you referring to? Sim-unlock code? Or is there some other paid method?
Or to put it in better writing, what paid method is there to enable fastboot?
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That's exactly what I am asking. If the phone gets sim-unlocked, does that mean that fastboot will be enabled? What paid method are you referring to? Sim-unlock code? Or is there some other paid method?
Or to put it in better writing, what paid method is there to enable fastboot?
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The paid-method is technically you go to your service provider,and ask them for an unlock code for your phone.Normally,you need to pay,but if you are lucky,they can give an unlock code for free :good:
The method to sim-unlock your phone (based on my reading in this forum ) is insert other SIM card that are different carrier,and turn on your phone.There will be a checkpoint which your phone asking for a code,at that time you insert the code that your service provider gave you,and after you enter the code,your phone will automatically sim-unlocked :highfive:
I'm sorry if some of my information is misleading,I hope someone can fix my mistake (if any though)
Or try this,who knows it might work?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgYAZoqsk9E
I'm planing to buy an unlock code, just want to make sure that by simunlocking it will enable fastboot.
Only wanted to know if anyone knows that it is certain, because i have no need for simunlock other than enabling fastboot so I can flash kernels
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I unlocked the sk17i of my son with another simcard and the code from my provider but... bootloader is still NOT allowed
Have you tried the testpoint method to unlock the bootloader?
Unlocking bootloader and sim unlocking both do separate things, but I'm hoping simunlocking + testpoint method will finally enable fastboot.
I'll purchase a simunlock code and post if that helps with enabling fastboot asap.
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ric69 said:
I unlocked the sk17i of my son with another simcard and the code from my provider but... bootloader is still NOT allowed
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That's is called sim unlock,and it is used to unlock the phone to use other sim card provider...it also unlock fastboot in your son's phone
Well,the bootloader still can be unlock,see my previous post
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I had the same problem and Unlocked with NO PROBLEM....
I can use Fastboot too...
Ok thanks guys you mean we can unlock bootloader even if it's written "not allowed" on *#*#7378423#*#* after simunlock
I will try it later ... when I can acces to the phone ^^
hi, i need help, i want to unlock my BL but my phone has NOT RECOGNIZED SIMLOCK CERTIFICATE
how I can fix this and unlock my bl?
Thanks
..Only way to unlock bl then is to unlock sim first. If it's already unlocked by other softwares than setool, it's not possible I think
z.JoSe said:
hi, i need help, i want to unlock my BL but my phone has NOT RECOGNIZED SIMLOCK CERTIFICATE
how I can fix this and unlock my bl?
Thanks
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I think you should re-unlock your sim lock using setool which will make sim certificate proper for unlocking bootloader.
how i can fix this without setool¡?
z.JoSe said:
how i can fix this without setool¡?
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I dont think so
Hi
Can i unlock bootloader after unlock simlock by code?
Simlock orange lock fastboot
msstunt14 said:
Hi
Can i unlock bootloader after unlock simlock by code?
Simlock orange lock fastboot
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took from sony bl unlock site:
-open the dialler and enter *#*#7378423#*#*
-tap Service info > Configuration > Rooting Status. If Bootloader unlock allowed says Yes, then you can continue with the next step. If it says No, or if the status is missing, your device cannot be unlocked. maybe then u can use the testpoint method, nut i have no xperience with this... so better you read carefully the ''unlock by testpoint method'' thread found in general forum
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took from sony bl unlock site:
-open the dialler and enter *#*#7378423#*#*
-tap Service info > Configuration > Rooting Status. If Bootloader unlock allowed says Yes, then you can continue with the next step. If it says No, or if the status is missing, your device cannot be unlocked. maybe then u can use the testpoint method, nut i have no xperience with this... so better you read carefully the ''unlock by testpoint method'' thread found in general forum
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Ok ty
Ok now i have unlock bootloader by testpoint but i can't flash kernel, why?
i must unlock simlock?
msstunt14 said:
Ok now i have unlock bootloader by testpoint but i can't flash kernel, why?
i must unlock simlock?
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i guess ur bootloader is not unlocked .... anyway kernl flash by fastboot should be no problem.. (if u really unlocked)
did u type in that code into dialer & looked if u are bootloader unlock allowed??? (this is the first thing u should do instead asking if it has sth to do with simlock, lol)
and press the thx button instead saying it :3
bejunk said:
i guess ur bootloader is not unlocked .... anyway kernl flash by fastboot should be no problem.. (if u really unlocked)
did u type in that code into dialer & looked if u are bootloader unlock allowed??? (this is the first thing u should do instead asking if it has sth to do with simlock, lol)
and press the thx button instead saying it :3
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But s1tool showed that I have unlocked the bootloader, or may be it's because my operator blocks the fastboot?
Guys, the guy in the shop told me that the simlock unlock, unlock fastboot. Is this true?
Hey guys, my bootloader unlock allowed status is no, but what if i unlock my SIM? Will it change to Unlock Allowed: Yes? I really wanna unlock the bootloader.
SIM unlocking and bootloader unlocking are two unrelated things.
You won't unlock your bootloader by unlocking the SIM.
To be exact, there is no way to unlock your bootloader by your own if bootloader unlocking is not allowed.
If your local laws grants you the right to gain full access over your device, you can try to send your device to Sony and ask them to unlock the bootloader by invoking these laws.
There is no guarantee that Sony will accepts to proceed, but I know that at least one person get an unlocked phone in France using this process (sorry I don't have the link anymore, I will add it later if I find it again).
Hope it helps,
Regards
WormsWarII said:
SIM unlocking and bootloader unlocking are two unrelated things.
You won't unlock your bootloader by unlocking the SIM.
To be exact, there is no way to unlock your bootloader by your own if bootloader unlocking is not allowed.
If your local laws grants you the right to gain full access over your device, you can try to send your device to Sony and ask them to unlock the bootloader by invoking these laws.
There is no guarantee that Sony will accepts to proceed, but I know that at least one person get an unlocked phone in France using this process (sorry I don't have the link anymore, I will add it later if I find it again).
Hope it helps,
Regards
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Understood, thanks!