I am new here, so be gentle I am wanting to get the S4 for Verizon, but I like the idea of having pure android on it. I know the Google Edition S4 will be released the end of this month. what are the chances of someone releasing it so I could put pure android on the S4 from Verizon? They are a big price difference so I would prefer to save the money.
Thank You all for your time
Do you not root? CM10 is out already for the S4. Honestly I don't even know if the Google edition is coming to Verizon, I haven't heard anything about it.
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Do you not root? CM10 is out already for the S4. Honestly I don't even know if the Google edition is coming to Verizon, I haven't heard anything about it.
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I would much rather have pure android that CM10, Google said they would be releasing a Google Edition for Verizon at I/O. Available through the play store.
honestly, do what I did. get the vzw gs4, root and install a loki recovery on it ASAP. for all flashing purposes, loki is basically an unlocked bootloader. rom and kernel support is fantastic (touchwiz and aosp). I was debating the same thing you were, even considering moving to t mobile, but I made the jump to the vzw gs4 about 3 weeks ago. I'm happy with my decision so that's my 2 cents on the issue
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Any word on if the google version will have support for all the new TW features? (IR (with watch on), smart screen, air view, etc)
I actually find some of those features great (like the IR) I don't think CM supprts them, but if the google edition supports it then it may be worth waiting. Or like others have mentioned just root and install the rom when it is ready
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Any word on if the google version will have support for all the new TW features? (IR (with watch on), smart screen, air view, etc)
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No.
IR may eventually be hacked/put into AOSP/AOSP-base ROMs, but the rest... forget it.
This is why a lot of us are going to be running AOSP-themed TW ROMs.
Anyway, the main difference with the Google Edition is that it won't work on VZ. But the devs will port the AOSP code to the i545 soon enough, don't worry.
As far as I know the Nexusized GS4 is going to be on T-mobile only... and as soon as I figure out if the Watch ON will come to AOSP or is supported on AOSP, I'm totally there.
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As far as I know the Nexusized GS4 is going to be on T-mobile only...
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It's not going be "on" anything, but it will work with both US GSM carriers and their MVNOs.
It's the Google Edition One that will only work on T-Mo.
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Guys, I'm working on developing an AOSP ROM. I need your help in choosing a phone I can use for the testing. I was thinking of starting with a cheap Samsung Galaxy series phone since they have dual bootloaders (boot.bin and sbl.bin). Better safe than sorry, right? My work partner suggested we start off with a Vanilla Android phone, like an old LG. Can you guys recommend me one to proceed with? Is there a phone out there with Vanilla Google Android and possibly two bootloaders ?
Anyone?
c'mon guys !!
Most developers like the Nexus series phones since they are easy to unlock the bootloader and have a lot of other devs.
Thank you for replying But is the Samsung Galaxy series the only one in the Android universe with dual bootloaders?
Also, what phones run on Vanilla Android other than the Google Nexus series? I take it the old LGs do? If so, which ones?
Someone, please respond...
bump!
Someone please provide some input on this..
I REALLY gotta know this at the earliest so I can acquire the phone. Someone, please help out !!
not sure if this helps but the pantech burst is getting the ICS update shortly (they have it ready just having server issues trying to get it out today) its a cheep but badass att lte phone
I don't live in the USA. I need something available internationally. Also, it needs Vanilla Android. Is Google Nexus my only chance?
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I don't live in the USA. I need something available internationally. Also, it needs Vanilla Android. Is Google Nexus my only chance?
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If your serious about development and testing pure vanilla Android is the way to go and the Google's Nexus line of phones and tablet it the way to go. You can easily compile AOSP for these devices, easily unlock the bootloader and root to flash custom ROM's. Also kernel sources are easily available, along with other great resources that will allow you to learn a lot about development.
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If your serious about development and testing pure vanilla Android is the way to go and the Google's Nexus line of phones and tablet it the way to go. You can easily compile AOSP for these devices, easily unlock the bootloader and root to flash custom ROM's. Also kernel sources are easily available, along with other great resources that will allow you to learn a lot about development.
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That's EXACTLY what I needed to hear! Thank you so much for your time! Considering I'll start with JB, is it necessary to acquire the latest Nexus available, or will any older variant do?
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That's EXACTLY what I needed to hear! Thank you so much for your time! Considering I'll start with JB, is it necessary to acquire the latest Nexus available, or will any older variant do?
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I wouldn't go any lower then the nexus s, since that's the oldest pure Google device that officially supports compiling AOSP JB from source. Personally I'd pick up the galaxy nexus if you want something right now. If you can wait until around November (November 5th) it's rumored Google is launching several (Supposedly five new nexus devices) new nexus devices to celebrate androids 5th birthday :thumbup:
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I wouldn't go any lower then the nexus s, since that's the oldest pure Google device that officially supports compiling AOSP JB from source. Personally I'd pick up the galaxy nexus if you want something right now. If you can wait until around November (November 5th) it's rumored Google is launching several (Supposedly five new nexus devices) new nexus devices to celebrate androids 5th birthday :thumbup:
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Good to know Guess I'll be picking up the Galaxy Nexus then!
Ok rumor is key lime pie aka android 4.2 will be announced next month or earlier... so why wait for jellybean when 4.2 is about to be released. Also why only 6
months or less between 4.1 and 4.2 as it takes atleast a year or so for makers to skin the android and butcher it. I cant wait for google to remove blur from my xt912 nexus razr...
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Have you ever tried JB? It's awesome! We have some great custom roms here. You want to wait for Motorola releasing an update to JB? Have fun...
And btw: As soos as 4.2 comes out Google will release 4.3 and so on...Then you could open a "screw 4.2 thread"! If you want have Blur removed from your device go ahead and flash one of the great custom roms!
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Have you ever tried JB? It's awesome! We have some great custom roms here. You want to wait for Motorola releasing an update to JB? Have fun...
And btw: As soos as 4.2 comes out Google will release 4.3 and so on...Then you could open a "screw 4.2 thread"! If you want have Blur removed from your device go ahead and flash one of the great custom roms!
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Thats not what i am saying.. what i am saying when they announce key lime pie android 4.2 then jellybean is yesterdays news no matter how great it is. I always want the latest and now its gonna be 4.2 so google and moto should just skip 4.1 and just give us 4.2 or 5.0
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Waiting for JB on our Razr's is wishful thinking and we could be waiting for ever. Waiting for 4.2 is even more ridiculous. Not to diss you OP, I just feel I know where we stand. It's always a possibility that we'll get JB but I doubt it. Mainly for the fact that Motorola and Verizon already have new and better phones coming and they will be more focused on selling those. Once the Razr HD and Maxx HD come out, that's pretty much the end for the Razr/Razr Maxx. Why would Verizon invest in our old Razr's when they have 3 new ones (Razr M included) to make money off of? Remember that Android updates now have to go through Verizon's approval.
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Waiting for JB on our Razr's is wishful thinking and we could be waiting for ever. Waiting for 4.2 is even more ridiculous. Not to diss you OP, I just feel I know where we stand. It's always a possibility that we'll get JB but I doubt it. Mainly for the fact that Motorola and Verizon already have new and better phones coming and they will be more focused on selling those. Once the Razr HD and Maxx HD come out, that's pretty much the end for the Razr/Razr Maxx. Why would Verizon invest in our old Razr's when they have 3 new ones (Razr M included) to make money off of? Remember that Android updates now have to go through Verizon's approval.
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moto said we will get jb, we should only buy the new nexus certified devices for now on...
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Waiting for JB on our Razr's is wishful thinking and we could be waiting for ever. Waiting for 4.2 is even more ridiculous. Not to diss you OP, I just feel I know where we stand. It's always a possibility that we'll get JB but I doubt it. Mainly for the fact that Motorola and Verizon already have new and better phones coming and they will be more focused on selling those. Once the Razr HD and Maxx HD come out, that's pretty much the end for the Razr/Razr Maxx. Why would Verizon invest in our old Razr's when they have 3 new ones (Razr M included) to make money off of? Remember that Android updates now have to go through Verizon's approval.
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This is not true my friend... my mom just recieved a gingerbread update on her stratosphere last week... hahah.. true story... quit being pessimistic...
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Google's plan is to release an major update of android every 6 month.
Since motorola take almost 1 year to update, you're done.
If you want to be sure to have all new version of android, you should buy a nexus or at least a popular unlocked bootloader phone, like htc or samsung.
Sad stories, last time i buy a phone without checking if bootloader is locked or not
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Google's plan is to release an major update of android every 6 month.
Since motorola take almost 1 year to update, you're done.
If you want to be sure to have all new version of android, you should buy a nexus or at least a popular unlocked bootloader phone, like htc or samsung.
Sad stories, last time i buy a phone without checking if bootloader is locked or not
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I thinking all moto devices will be nexus devices but i think usa verizon will demand like they did on the s3 that all phones be locked with the bootloader as vzw said that the Unlocked requirement only applies to apps.
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4.2 is actually still likely going to be Jelly Bean, according to Android Police and Google's server logs (look under the section "Laying the Foundation"), not Key Lime Pie. This may change by release, but for now, it is still using J in the build number, signifying that it is still currently Jelly Bean. If that's the case, it may not be something worth getting hyped about, and we should still be glad if we get 4.1.
But my phone works good now
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4.2 is actually still likely going to be Jelly Bean, according to Android Police and Google's server logs (look under the section "Laying the Foundation"), not Key Lime Pie. This may change by release, but for now, it is still using J in the build number, signifying that it is still currently Jelly Bean. If that's the case, it may not be something worth getting hyped about, and we should still be glad if we get 4.1.
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like how they did 2.0 and 2,1 how silly
Fact: Motorola will give you ONE upgrade which will be Jellybean. On all their devices they usually only go up one more Android version then they ditch the device in order to support all of their new devices which will also end up with the same fate. Enjoy Jellybean. You won't get 4.2 at the least not from Motorola.
I'm currently running JB, in the KOA Resurrection flavor, on my razr and it has made me very excited for the official JB release, when it (hopefully) come to our phones. JB, at least as the rom I'm running, is fantastic.
Like others have said, the current trend for devices seems to be one to two android updates before being left on the back burner, if not being taken off the burner entirely, to allow focus on supporting newer money making phones and devices.
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Fact: Motorola will give you ONE upgrade which will be Jellybean. On all their devices they usually only go up one more Android version then they ditch the device in order to support all of their new devices which will also end up with the same fate. Enjoy Jellybean. You won't get 4.2 at the least not from Motorola.
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we should always get the latest android as soon as google releases it. now that google owns moto mobility then i suspect that all future devices will be apart of the nexus certified program meaning that google atleast on gsm will push all updates to the phone the same day as announced. However those of us like me on verizon will never be apart of the nexus certified program as vzw along with other cdma carriers play their natzi best to delay all updates for the sake of testing.... well i thought google already tested the stuff anyway... we need to take back control of our phones from verizon (axis power alley) and give that power back to us (the allies power)...
I want a quad core with a 4500 battery. SD slot. 5 inch screen. Real stereo. 64gb internal, n wifi. NFC. Any sim card and unlocked bootloader
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I want a quad core with a 4500 battery. SD slot. 5 inch screen. Real stereo. 64gb internal, n wifi. NFC. Any sim card and unlocked bootloader
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i would only add that perhaps 16gb of ram memory and unlimited drobox account and 64gb internal system storage and 1tb of internal storage space and .....
The note 2, except for the 3100 battery it pretty much meets what you want.
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issue only M/HD get 4.2
i hope motorola act fair...do not forget old version razr (xt910/12) dont only focus on HD or M
Still waiting.for 4.2 gosh golly beev... How much longer
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we should always get the latest android as soon as google releases it. now that google owns moto mobility then i suspect that all future devices will be apart of the nexus certified program meaning that google atleast on gsm will push all updates to the phone the same day as announced. However those of us like me on verizon will never be apart of the nexus certified program as vzw along with other cdma carriers play their natzi best to delay all updates for the sake of testing.... well i thought google already tested the stuff anyway... we need to take back control of our phones from verizon (axis power alley) and give that power back to us (the allies power)...
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Wrong. They acquired moto for patents other than that Google is going to be hands off.
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Woo Hoo!
I've been on the Galaxy Nexus for a while running custom ROM's: Currently the latest JBSourcery. I've been lusting on a new phone for a while but am spoiled with the pure Google experience; it would be difficult to go back to a locked and skinned phone.
When the unlocked GSM GS4 was announced, even though I'm on Verizon, this was great news! With the added resources of an unlocked natural Jelly Bean phone out there, it can't take too long for the developers to put together some custom ROM's for our version. I was willing to wait til the fall to see if there was a CDMA Nexus 4 Plus or something but now I don't have to!
agreed!
If 32GB it would be real cool. Knowing Google, Samsung had to remove the sd card slot
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If 32GB it would be real cool. Knowing Google, Samsung had to remove the sd card slot
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i thought i read somewhere that the 32gb S4 is exclusive to AT&T for a while on the US Shores. *shrug* could be wrong.
The only JB rom I have flashed has been CM 10.x nightly
How would a pure JB compare? Is it basically the same?
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How would a pure JB compare? Is it basically the same?
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pure JB would stock android, like the Nexus 4. So basically, you're removing all the samsung features and gimmicks and TouchWiz.
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i thought i read somewhere that the 32gb S4 is exclusive to AT&T for a while on the US Shores. *shrug* could be wrong.
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I agree, but seems the only one that will is already carrying the option. Nothing from the other carriers.
Yeah that'll definitely be nice to have but the CDMA RIL will still be a pain as always.
G900TUVU1DOB1 AKA 5.0 FOR TMOBILE FULL FIRMWARE ON MEGA THANKS TO GSXeclipsePSI
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They say November ? but we still haven't even gotten 4.4.4 ? I'll take this with a hint of salt but we could only hope
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/5668...-l-november-december-rollout.htm#.VB8IEvndV8E
Since is been announced here are some videos to keep this going
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mqvPHeNf2U&feature=share
So lets keep this one alive..... So what upcoming features are you excited about Android L and how much will we even be able to notice with touchwiz layer on top ????
We might not be that far off seems like samsung already has touchwiz on top of the L
Sammy
http://www.sammobile.com/2014/10/02/exclusive-preview-android-l-on-samsung-galaxy-s5/
Video
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/1...-and-features-new-touchwiz-on-video-video.htm
2nd build
http://youtu.be/AU3H1t0kIrQ
FINAL BUILD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7LFgUgqI1E
Lol. Grinch of salt? Must be close to Christmas already.
Just because we haven't gotten 4.4.4 doesn't mean T-Mobile or Samsung won't skip to L.
I had a sprint s3 on 4.2 and it skipped the 4.2.2 update and went straight to 4.3. So there's a possibility of that happening for our devices.
Why do threads like this pop up every time some news article quotes an ETA? This is how it goes EVERY TIME for US carriers....International gets the update first....maybe 1-3 months after the OS update is released...then US Carriers "may" see the update based on the carrier's prerogative 3-6 months after that. So don't even think of holding your breath until you see the international version get the update.
But certainly use this thread to discuss upcoming features if you like rather than see another 10 of these threads pop up.
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Why do threads like this pop up every time some news article quotes an ETA? This is how it goes EVERY TIME for US carriers....International gets the update first....maybe 1-3 months after the OS update is released...then US Carriers "may" see the update based on the carrier's prerogative 3-6 months after that. So don't even think of holding your breath until you see the international version get the update.
But certainly use this thread to discuss upcoming features if you like rather than see another 10 of these threads pop up.
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Sounds like a Plan, So lets keep this one alive..... So what upcoming features are you excited about Android L and how much will we even notice with touchwiz layer on top
Seems like samsung has already incorporated touchwiz on the L hopefully tmobile won't be the last carrier to get 5.0 since it is basically the only one that hasn't gotten 4.4.4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yBLqnokjPM#t=37
I haven't seen any 4.4.4 roms yet. Have you?
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Just the aosp roms.
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I haven't seen any 4.4.4 roms yet. Have you?
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Tmobile I think is the only carrier that hasn't gotten 4.4.4 for the galaxy 5 yet lol
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Tmobile I think is the only carrier that hasn't gotten 4.4.4 for the galaxy 5 yet lol
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Actually, none of the International roms are 4.4.4 either. Go to the international development forum and see they are all running 4.4.2.
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Actually, none of the International roms are 4.4.4 either. Go to the international development forum and see they are all running 4.4.2.
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Verizon, Sprint have it I thought At&T had gotten it by now but looks like it hasn't either looks like GSM carriers are the ones that are behind then
Now that i look at the international roms it looks like goldeneye might b 4.4.4. I will try it out now and see.
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I'm fine with skipping 4.4.4 really
Got it on my s4 and it really isn't much different.
The video preview looked nice though.
Hopefully I can still upgrade with mobile Odin when it comes out a keep root.
I finally have my Linux box setup correctly so I can make a firmware only file from it too as well as make a custom rom which I can remove the tethering checks and enable 180° rotation too
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I'm fine with skipping 4.4.4 really
Got it on my s4 and it really isn't much different.
The video preview looked nice though.
Hopefully I can still upgrade with mobile Odin when it comes out a keep root.
I finally have my Linux box setup correctly so I can make a firmware only file from it too as well as make a custom rom which I can remove the tethering checks and enable 180° rotation too
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yea 4.4.4 is not a big deal either for me...... I prefer we get L quickly and not take even longer because they release 4.4.4 a month before
The audio enhancements (low latency) alone are well worth the wait for Android L. RAW format and other camera enhancements will hopefully be embraced and enhanced further by Samsung.
Yes, skipping 4.4.4 straight to Android L with little delay on release would be my preference.
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There is the note 4 4.4.4 rom ported over in the international section. Although it's more of a mix of 4.4.2 rather than full 4.4.4 because Samsung lol.
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You have a link for it ? I will like to try it
And Lollipop has been announced
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mqvPHeNf2U&feature=share
Another picture has teased the possibility of a Google Play Edition Galaxy S5.
http://phandroid.com/2014/10/15/sam...tion-shows-up-again-on-official-android-page/
T Mobile announced that the Nexus 6 will be the first Nexus to support Wi-Fi calling thanks to improvements in Android 5.0.
http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news/t...-to-its-data-strong-network-this-november.htm
There's a remote possibility, if a GPE S5 is released, that we could flash a GPE rom that could also support Wi-Fi calling. Wouldn't that be sweet... Lollipop for both TW lovers and pure Android lovers, all on one device.
Of course, many things would have to fall into place for all this to happen. But if it did, the T Mobile S5 would be a great phone to have.
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Another picture has teased the possibility of a Google Play Edition Galaxy S5.
http://phandroid.com/2014/10/15/sam...tion-shows-up-again-on-official-android-page/
T Mobile announced that the Nexus 6 will be the first Nexus to support Wi-Fi calling thanks to improvements in Android 5.0.
http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news/t...-to-its-data-strong-network-this-november.htm
There's a remote possibility, if a GPE S5 is released, that we could flash a GPE rom that could also support Wi-Fi calling. Wouldn't that be sweet... Lollipop for both TW lovers and pure Android lovers, all on one device.
Of course, many things would have to fall into place for all this to happen. But if it did, the T Mobile S5 would be a great phone to have.
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Wow Wifi calling and nexus that is awesome seems like we will be able to get wifi calling in aosp roms on 5.0 then
Great news, Galaxy S5 owners: You may not have to wait that much longer to get Android 5.0 Lollipop on your favorite phone. SamMobile’s sources indicate that Lollipop will start rolling out to the Galaxy S5 sometime in December, which hopefully means you should get it on your own device before the year is over.
SamMobile says that Samsung is making some adjustments to its TouchWiz overlay to make it fit in better with Material Design so hopefully this means there won’t be too much of a jarring difference between what you’ll get on the Galaxy S5 with TouchWiz and a Galaxy S5 with stock Android.
Source........ http://bgr.com/2014/10/24/when-will-the-galaxy-s5-get-android-5-0-lollipop/
Exclusive Second Preview - Android 5.0 (Lollipop) on Samsung GALAXY S5
Go look at the video below
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Is the G2 the worst phone for flashing? Most G2 ROMS are alpha or beta a year and half later. Now it could be a LG thing because the G3 doesn't seem to be much better. Given the track record with this phone would any of you actually think about a Flex 2 or G4?
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Is the G2 the worst phone for flashing? Most G2 ROMS are alpha or beta a year and half later. Now it could be a LG thing because the G3 doesn't seem to be much better. Given the track record with this phone would any of you actually think about a Flex 2 or G4?
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If you get flex 2 you will cry even more about roms....Imo g2 isnt supported like htc devices, i mean that many roms and that many customisation options especialy Venom roms, thats why i liked htc that much, also htc has best looking UI in my eyes, next is G3 Ui, thats why i got g2, cuz i could afford only htc one m7 which has bad camera and snapdragon 600 for preety much same price (used), and i am totally happy with my decision. If you want more roms, buy htc m9 and enjoy
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If you get flex 2 you will cry even more about roms....Imo g2 isnt supported like htc devices, i mean that many roms and that many customisation options especialy Venom roms, thats why i liked htc that much, also htc has best looking UI in my eyes, next is G3 Ui, thats why i got g2, cuz i could afford only htc one m7 which has bad camera and snapdragon 600 for preety much same price (used), and i am totally happy with my decision. If you want more roms, buy htc m9 and enjoy
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Yeah. the HTC M8 has definitely been looking like a good option.
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Yeah. the HTC M8 has definitely been looking like a good option.
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Good phone, but i dont see it like some nice "upgrade" from g2.....
The thing is that htc phone have been getting modded for a long time now. With the likes of AndroidRevolutionHD (ARHD), Insertcoin, Venom (formerly pokemon rom i think) these guys have been working on htc phones for years and know htc sense well, coupled with unlockable bootloaders and htc's usually great build quality these developers have no real need to move elsewhere. They do great work just as our developers do but our developers have a different ball game to play. Locked bootloaders are a dev headache. Delayed source code is a headcahe. While the roms may be beta and alpha here its not fair to say this phone/oem is bad for flashing as the developers may not want to leave beta before all bugs are fixed (and some bugs can be damn stubborn). This coupled with the speed google releases new android versions and peoples lust to have the latest and greatest time for development roms often get left as beta/stable and people move on to the next port/source compile of android. I find alot of the time beta roms are perfectly acceptable for daily drivers but my logic would suggest if theres a bug it should be beta (although oems dont seem to obide to that ). Not to mention to alot of people this is a hobbie not a job, life gets in the way of hobbies.
With that said, i do agree that the m8 doesnt feel like much of a step up from here. Maybe you should hang around here flashing roms until the next HTC upgrade comes along and jump to that? At this point i think its fair to say that the latest htc phone will be supported by the big teams, it will most likely gain s-off and support multirom and the forums will most likely be rammed as usual with people who are new and not so eager to read before flashing
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I have a G Pro 2.
Well, that's the most unsupported smartphone I ever had
heavy_metal_man said:
The thing is that htc phone have been getting modded for a long time now. With the likes of AndroidRevolutionHD (ARHD), Insertcoin, Venom (formerly pokemon rom i think) these guys have been working on htc phones for years and know htc sense well, coupled with unlockable bootloaders and htc's usually great build quality these developers have no real need to move elsewhere. They do great work just as our developers do but our developers have a different ball game to play. Locked bootloaders are a dev headache. Delayed source code is a headcahe. While the roms may be beta and alpha here its not fair to say this phone/oem is bad for flashing as the developers may not want to leave beta before all bugs are fixed (and some bugs can be damn stubborn). This coupled with the speed google releases new android versions and peoples lust to have the latest and greatest time for development roms often get left as beta/stable and people move on to the next port/source compile of android. I find alot of the time beta roms are perfectly acceptable for daily drivers but my logic would suggest if theres a bug it should be beta (although oems dont seem to obide to that ). Not to mention to alot of people this is a hobbie not a job, life gets in the way of hobbies.
With that said, i do agree that the m8 doesnt feel like much of a step up from here. Maybe you should hang around here flashing roms until the next HTC upgrade comes along and jump to that? At this point i think its fair to say that the latest htc phone will be supported by the big teams, it will most likely gain s-off and support multirom and the forums will most likely be rammed as usual with people who are new and not so eager to read before flashing
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Well said :good:
Far from it. With the LG G2, there are probably more unique options than any other (non-nexus) phone. It can run the skinned G2 software, stock or tweaked. You can flash the skinned G3 software with an updated look. You can flash the LG Flex software. You can run Stock Android in 4.4.4 or 5.0.2 as it's similiarities with the Nexus 5 makes it easier to develop.
I will concede that within skinned roms, the updates are rarer... that will most likely change in the next two months as LG's Official 5.0 updates will go through more optimization until it works as a dev thinks it should.
ossito2012 said:
Is the G2 the worst phone for flashing? Most G2 ROMS are alpha or beta a year and half later. Now it could be a LG thing because the G3 doesn't seem to be much better. Given the track record with this phone would any of you actually think about a Flex 2 or G4?
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I think the HTC flagships having the GPE editions give them an advantage if you don't like dealing with hardware compatibility issues the CM, AOSP etc ROMS can have.
The # of models of the G2 doesn't help much.. Daily CM 12's right now for just the one edition IIRC?
I had many HTC phones and the main thing is they abandon their phones quickly. Or at least they did as of One X+. Every phone, we'd have the promise of official firmware for a new version of android and at the last minute the phone would be eol'd.
I guess the gpe phones might help porting new stock firmware? Not sure since I left HTC after the one x+. Also, I found HTC phones bricked easy and unbricking was difficult.
But man, sense has always looked the best, and viper rom is always amazing.
But I like lg because the stock firmware doesn't even make me want to mod it. Every other brand I've had (Sony, Motorola), the stock firmware left something to be desired.
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=JKT= said:
I had many HTC phones and the main thing is they abandon their phones quickly. Or at least they did as of One X+. Every phone, we'd have the promise of official firmware for a new version of android and at the last minute the phone would be eol'd.
I guess the gpe phones might help porting new stock firmware? Not sure since I left HTC after the one x+. Also, I found HTC phones bricked easy and unbricking was difficult.
But man, sense has always looked the best, and viper rom is always amazing.
But I like lg because the stock firmware doesn't even make me want to mod it. Every other brand I've had (Sony, Motorola), the stock firmware left something to be desired.
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My previous phone was HTC One X, HTC said they wanted to update it to 4.4.2 but nvidia dropped support for its tegra socket, so they didnt have drivers to do that, but i see that htc one m7 is doing good, it will get lolipop till end of next month, so i think they got better with updates, at least thats almost 2 years of fast updates what you want more? Even google haven't updated their galaxy nexus cuz of dropped socket support...
frogger72 said:
I think the HTC flagships having the GPE editions give them an advantage if you don't like dealing with hardware compatibility issues the CM, AOSP etc ROMS can have.
The # of models of the G2 doesn't help much.. Daily CM 12's right now for just the one edition IIRC?
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I've heard the Verizon model has super sweet CM12 support and everything just amazing works perfectly. I haven't tried it yet but there are several Lollipop roms for the VS980 model, which is what I have and follow dev for.
The amount of number of various models doesn't help, although by now most roms support all variants with options to select your model for the fine tweaks each different model requires. The only model that has issues is the Verizon one using generic roms. It seems the stock Messaging app doesn't like to do MMS (I think because Verizon uses IMS). Not that there are road blocks. Lots of ports have fine tuned Verizon editions with everything working. I am personally loving the G3 Verizon rom port. It has everything I want/need and no issues.
I agree that the LG G2 does have plenty of options to choose from and it isn't just Stock or AOSP or CM.
I would not see any problem with my flash addict, if camera quality weren't that bad on AOSP roms. It's the only reason why I'm not swapping roms like crazy. I hope Lollipop will somehow change it (dreaming).
Coming from the Rezound and then the Razr MAXX HD, the G2 is My Flash Dream!!!! Roms, kernels,and mods- the ease of it all is ridiculously great(specially being virtually unbrickable)!
Actually I disagree. Yes G2 is not the best in the field of development and flashing but compared to many other flagships, I prefere it. Take a look at development section of exynous version of samsung flagships. Also there is no bootloader lock or knox or... Here
So that's one of the reasons after messing around with a few phones, including note3, nexus 5, G3 and one m7, I came back to g2
undeadking said:
Coming from the Rezound and then the Razr MAXX HD, the G2 is My Flash Dream!!!! Roms, kernels,and mods- the ease of it all is ridiculously great(specially being virtually unbrickable)!
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When flashing pay attention to model/variant you have, you can end with brick if you select wrong model.
I would not call it the worst phone but it definitely doesn't have the support the old school Galaxy S2 Skyrocket have, I'm still flashing on that thing even though I'm not using. G2 has a ton of alpha and beta roms but very few official stable roms. I'm almost ready to go back to iPhone if these Android phones keep having short-lived ROM support
Maczuga said:
I would not see any problem with my flash addict, if camera quality weren't that bad on AOSP roms. It's the only reason why I'm not swapping roms like crazy. I hope Lollipop will somehow change it (dreaming).
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That is the problem with any other phone too unless nexus or cyanogen inc phones.
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ossito2012 said:
I would not call it the worst phone but it definitely doesn't have the support the old school Galaxy S2 Skyrocket have, I'm still flashing on that thing even though I'm not using. G2 has a ton of alpha and beta roms but very few official stable roms. I'm almost ready to go back to iPhone if these Android phones keep having short-lived ROM support
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I suggest you stick to Nexus devices, which is what I'll do once I sell my G2. They tend to have the best action, but I have yet to see a new community with the variety of ROMs that the HTC G1 had...
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totally hoping that the new rumors that LG will build a Nexus phone are true, and hoping it will be a real phone and that stupid Nexus 6