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As we all know that there is not many developers for this photon 4g like other mobile phones ..
so i think that if there are not developers for the photon 4g then photon will die soon
what u say about this ??????
only way my photon is dying is if i forget to plug it in
I Just want to know what the hell it is you people expect?
20, 30 Roms? That all use a slightly different deodexed base? and have a different set of icons or themes? And all introduce a new set of crap that only partially works?
I mean really - there are only so many things you can do to a rom before they all become the same damn thing with a different name and "dev".
Most of what I see out there is a guy tweaking his phone, removing bloat ware,claiming "ZOMG Battery and Speed!", dumping /system into a Zip file and that someone else made and posting it for someone else to flash to their phone
Want to learn how to do it?
Flash aliens rom, tweak it how you like it, add some icons and themeing (the brunt of the work).
adb pull /system/ C:\Users\Username\Desktop
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Copy all of that into Aliens Zip file, post it is a rom for people to flash - almost 0 effort to do anything but the art - which you can steal from just about anyone online and call it a "port".
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That was just rude. .. this is best phone but when you compare Bionic and stupid 3d threads...well i see what he means ...and Roms are not usually the same.. Some have performance tweaks...like 4g on unlocked bootloader. Speed increase, themes and mods.. Nothing wrong with him trying to get or rally development support like some of the inferior phones have. Remember, this is a development site...
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like 4g on unlocked bootloader.
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Not a function of the Rom - Lockfish (I think?) has just been able to figure out how to fix it outside of the issue with the bootloader.
I'm not being rude - I was being honest, but there is a thread at least every other day talking about how lack luster our dev section is. This IS a development forum - and I showed him (really basically) how to make a rom. No?
Honestly, when you get 5 or 6 different roms out there - there are enough similarities between them and not enough differences that there really isn't much of a point. 99% of what most people experience from ROM to ROM is placebo.
It appears both the OP and Kcarp were both in the wrong on this one, and for this reason:
OP - Phone development will progress only as fast as sources are released. This phone is still new enough to where developers are still waiting on critical components to really be able to customize this phone. Do not expect this forum to jump off like an HTC (insert model here) forum, but instead, anticipate seasoned developers finding and introducing mods, tweaks and more efficient ways to unlock the bootloader over the coming weeks/months.
Kcarp - C'monnnn man, you're better than that rant. You've been around long enough (hell, I remember ya from the Hero days) to know that these types of threads pop up weekly, and sometimes it's best just to ignore them. I know you meant well, but the last thing we want to do is scare off future developers from posting here as this phone gets older, when so many are leaving XDA as it is.
I am also getting sick of these whiny threads. This phone gets close to the battery life of my evo shift running a cm7 clone, locks gps about 100x's faster and gets a better data and call signal everywhere. My phone is stock rooted with no bloatware touched. It may take some time but even IF development never goes far with this phone, i'd still be happy with it.
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only way my photon is dying is if i forget to plug it in
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Damn it, you beat me to it.
All I need is CM7 Or a sense 3.5 rom, blur sucks
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Kcarp - C'monnnn man, you're better than that rant. You've been around long enough (hell, I remember ya from the Hero days) to know that these types of threads pop up weekly, and sometimes it's best just to ignore them. I know you meant well, but the last thing we want to do is scare off future developers from posting here as this phone gets older, when so many are leaving XDA as it is.
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*runs away with his tale between his legs*
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It appears both the OP and Kcarp were both in the wrong on this one, and for this reason:
OP - Phone development will progress only as fast as sources are released. This phone is still new enough to where developers are still waiting on critical components to really be able to customize this phone.
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The epic touch 4G came out after it and has at least 10 to 12 roms
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i want to say that like other devices that developers port thing to device like new thing and Android latest OS ..you can see that older device google nexus one and nexus s has the ICS and this thing is done by the developers of that devices .if developers leave to port the thing and Updated Android then devices are able to run application and play games which are only supported the updated Android OS
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i want to say that like other devices that developers port thing to device like new thing and Android latest OS ..you can see that older device google nexus one and nexus s has the ICS and this thing is done by the developers of that devices .if developers leave to port the thing and Updated Android then devices are able to run application and play games which are only supported the updated Android OS
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Established developers will get to this phone eventually. CWM will add the phone into the ROM Manager database, and Cyanogen and others will eventually port their versions to ours. Have patience or be prepared to sell your phone on Ebay/Craigslist if you just can't wait.
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guys i love this phone but asking question (which are meaningless ) is for to satisfy my heart
i love tegra2
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Established developers will get to this phone eventually. CWM will add the phone into the ROM Manager database, and Cyanogen and others will eventually port their versions to ours. Have patience or be prepared to sell your phone on Ebay/Craigslist if you just can't wait.
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Ha
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This phone is Damn near the Best you are going to get out of the box. All those other phones NEED Rom's to run as good as our phone does Out Of The Box. Moto has updated this phone 3x in less than 2 months ALREADY (it would take Sammy 2 years to update the SGS2 3x). There is a rumor I have seen that Moto is working on ANOTHER update for this Amazing phone.
I could careless if I get ROM's or not. It works Great for me as is. I was lucky enough to get Grand Fathered into Unlimited Mobile Hotspot Data since I have been a customer since 1997 and spoke with a Retentions Manager (Politely) and she took care of me). No 5G Cap for me and my area is 4G Saturated. Use the Hotspot for my Xoom, HP Touchpad and Samsung Galaxy Player 5.0. I am Very, Very Happy with this phone.
Had the OG EVO before this phone and was putting ROM's/Kernels on it all the time (last one was Synergy SC2). Got tired of that. It's nice to just have a phone that WORKS like it's supposed to without ROM's.
Nothing wrong with the photon... quit crying
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I have seen some good 3d games from gameloft in the market but most of them appears as incopatible with my mopho, does anybody knows if this is a hardware incopatibility issue or another way to get them.
WTF is this ..........
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This phone is Damn near the Best you are going to get out of the box. All those other phones NEED Rom's to run as good as our phone does Out Of The Box. Moto has updated this phone 3x in less than 2 months ALREADY (it would take Sammy 2 years to update the SGS2 3x). There is a rumor I have seen that Moto is working on ANOTHER update for this Amazing phone.
I could careless if I get ROM's or not. It works Great for me as is. I was lucky enough to get Grand Fathered into Unlimited Mobile Hotspot Data since I have been a customer since 1997 and spoke with a Retentions Manager (Politely) and she took care of me). No 5G Cap for me and my area is 4G Saturated. Use the Hotspot for my Xoom, HP Touchpad and Samsung Galaxy Player 5.0. I am Very, Very Happy with this phone.
Had the OG EVO before this phone and was putting ROM's/Kernels on it all the time (last one was Synergy SC2). Got tired of that. It's nice to just have a phone that WORKS like it's supposed to without ROM's.
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Big +1 here. Epic 4g needed roms just to last a day on battery and to be fast enough to keep up with certain applications. Problem with the ROMs is that even journaled, they'd get buggy after a few weeks, or there would be just something about a ROM that would annoy me. Once it got dual boot capability I was flashing ROMs left and right. It got to be where I was flashing ROMs just to flash ROMs, like I forgot other ways to kill boredom.
I don't feel an immediate need to flash ROMs. If CM7 comes stable to the photon I'll probably try it just to see what the fuss is about. However, I'm more interested in eventual ICS. I'm happy for root because of Titanium backup and other such things that you need root to run. The battery is great, and it's plenty fast enough. There is one thing about this phone that no ROM could give me on the Epic 4g... the ability to make a phone call at work. The antenna is far superior.
the only thing I'd like to see dying Is this troll thread
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Basically, I'm thinking about trading in my Nexus for an HTC Rezound. Don't get me wrong: I freaking love this phone, and have been dying to get it for months. There's nothing wrong with it.
My issue is that I'm a flash-o-holic. Now that the Rezound has an unlocked boot loader, I'm worried that it will have more ROM options.
With the Rezound, I'll eventually be able to run ISC. it can run sense roms. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like with the Rezound I'd be able to flash everything I could with my Nexus PLUS all of the 2.3 and Sense roms, right? and that means more options.
So, I need some clarification:
Can the Nexus run anything other than 4.0 based roms? (like 2.3 based ones)
Can the Nexus potentially run a Sense rom?
With the bigger development community of the Nexus, am I better of staying where I am?
I had an Incredible before, and was in love with it. GREAT dev community and tons of ROMs and development even to this day. I liked CM7 and MIUI, but I put a huge value on always being able to come back to Sense. One of my concerns with the Rezound is that the development and the development community will die after a couple months and the next bigger, brighter HTC phone comes out.
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If you like sense, then I would highly recommend the Rezound. If you don't, then the Nexus is the way to go. That is what made the decision for me.
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Basically, I'm thinking about trading in my Nexus for an HTC Rezound. Don't get me wrong: I freaking love this phone, and have been dying to get it for months. There's nothing wrong with it.
My issue is that I'm a flash-o-holic. Now that the Rezound has an unlocked boot loader, I'm worried that it will have more ROM options.
With the Rezound, I'll eventually be able to run ISC. it can run sense roms. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like with the Rezound I'd be able to flash everything I could with my Nexus PLUS all of the 2.3 and Sense roms, right? and that means more options.
So, I need some clarification:
Can the Nexus run anything other than 4.0 based roms? (like 2.3 based ones)
Can the Nexus potentially run a Sense rom?
With the bigger development community of the Nexus, am I better of staying where I am?
I had an Incredible before, and was in love with it. GREAT dev community and tons of ROMs and development even to this day. I liked CM7 and MIUI, but I put a huge value on always being able to come back to Sense. One of my concerns with the Rezound is that the development and the development community will die after a couple months and the next bigger, brighter HTC phone comes out.
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I don't see why you would want to go back to GB after being on ICS. I really doubt the Nexus will be able to run a sensed based ROM. It is very difficult to port sense over to other phones from what I have heard. Development will definately heat up for this phone! You just have to give it some time since we just got the unlock today. Look at the Tbolt it's still being developed for... Hell even the OG Droid still has some development. Idk how long you plan to keep your device for, usually 1 year to 1 1/2 year is the max for me. I'm sure there development for that amount of time if not longer.
The Rezound just isn't "another HTC phone" so you don't have to worry about it fading away. I'm sure there will be enough ROMs for the Rezound to satisfy any crack flasher. So in the end it's your choice, you just need to weigh all the options against each other.
We have some of the best devs on this phone including themers. I have no doubt you'll have plenty of roms and themes to flash. I personally plan to port all five or six of my themes over once I have scott's base. Side note : My themes are usually not posted on xda. For those that know me, I haven't posted here for some time.
I'm pretty sure there's a sticky here that list all the devs that have committed to working on the Rezound.
Sent from my newly unlocked Rezound.. Thank you HTC.
i guess I just got used to switching up roms every couple weeks or so with my incredible. I'd run a sense rom for a couple weeks, get bored with it, switch to cm7 for a couple weeks, switch to miui, etc.
I don't like the idea of finding one rom, and sticking with it forever, even if all others are "inferior." I like to mix it up.
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Just curious..Where have all the Devs gone? The first few days the dev section seemed to be on fire! I haven't seen anything new pop up in a bit. I'm sure I'm not the only one who can be asking this question. I know they do this as hobby/passion and for free which is why I'm simply asking for "proof of life".lol.
Anyone know of anything in the works? Giving me even more of a reason to check the forums 100 times a day like a true flashaholic ;-)
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Just curious..Where have all the Devs gone? The first few days the dev section seemed to be on fire! I haven't seen anything new pop up in a bit. I'm sure I'm not the only one who can be asking this question. I know they do this as hobby/passion and for free which is why I'm simply asking for "proof of life".lol.
Anyone know of anything in the works? Giving me even more of a reason to check the forums 100 times a day like a true flashaholic ;-)
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Take a walk outside for some fresh air.
Messages like these will not motivate any dev in getting 'cracking'.
what do you mean, it is doing just fine.....they have been plugging away at getting CWM working....which without leaves most users at a disadvantage cuz some people just seem to have issues with oden and ADB. now that they have an alpha of CWM roms will be coming next. and i also think that since ICS is coming up the future that devs are waiting for that. why keep dropping ginger roms? and i see them working on ICS roms as well. we have a stable ginger rom in TPC's/da g's kernel mix. i still see the same devs working and plugging away and we have more now than we did 2 weeks ago...
they are working, and like you said.... they are working on there own time and for FREE.
we should all be greatful. when they stop working be worried.
I think ICS is in the works. The DEV just wants to clean up some of the other issues he is working on. Yes this is vague but I do not want to over step my bounds.
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I too am eager however the one and only rom we have is stable. I can wait for ICS as long as it takes. We have an overclock kernel as well. With other devices I have seen dozens of roms and dozens of kernels with only one or two having full functionality. We have been very fortunate. With that said there seems to be less than the usual amount of Development on this device but remember this is brand new. It takes a while... with the streak we only had a few devs and even then at one point really only one dev. Give it a few weeks. If not do like I am and imerse yourself in reading on how to make roms. I develop android apps and have a few in the market, now that does not qualify me to make roms it does mean that I have the ability to learn like many others could do if they were motivated to do so.
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Take a walk outside for some fresh air.
Messages like these will not motivate any dev in getting 'cracking'.
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I THOUGHT I made it clear that was not my intention at all. Thanks for the other responses they actually answered my question. There are many people like me who are fairly new to this. I am coming from the inspire and when I first got it there were tons of roms available, but I got it 4 months after launch. Then I realized I could have been using the desire HD roms. Can the international rooms be flashed using Odin?
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Can the international rooms be flashed using Odin?
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NO. You will brick your device if you try to flash international ROMs, as they have a different processor as well as other various differences that essentially make them completely different beasts with the same form factor.
Reading a bit more would inform you as to why development is slow right now and why you can't flash international ROMs.
To give you the sparknotes version of what's going on however:
As others have said, we only have an alpha version of CWM, so devs are working on getting that polished up.
Second, devs are working on a way to get around the flash counter, so that you do not have any problems with a warranty exchange in the future. If you don't care about your warranty or want to risk a return with a triggered flash counter, go for it. Other phones have had their flash counter bypassed, so I'm sure our talented devs will come up with a solution fairly soon.
Also, as others have mentioned, we have one stable ROM already, and a great kernel, so that should solve most problems with using the stock ROM until more development occurs.
Lastly, with ICS on the horizon, there is not really a good reason to produce a ton of GB ROMs, so be patient and use the stable one we have already until ICS drops in a few months or so.
The longest anybody has had this device is 11 days right now, and we already have a stable ROM and OC/UV capable kernel. In my opinion, that's a damn good start, and I have a feeling that development will eventually be huge on this device. Give it a few months. =]
So funny how everyone keeps talking about ICS like its coming in two weeks! Btw the release date for that that everyone think is coming soon is for the International version!
Big Dogg Infuse I997 ZeusB5 ICS!
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So funny how everyone keeps talking about ICS like its coming in two weeks! Btw the release date for that that everyone think is coming soon is for the International version!
Big Dogg Infuse I997 ZeusB5 ICS!
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Nobody here referenced the international release of official ICS. I think most people here know that it doesn't mean anything for our devices. However, it will be here eventually, and devs are most likely already working on porting over an unofficial version.
The phone been out a week. Lmao, wow
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Nobody here referenced the international release of official ICS. I think most people here know that it doesn't mean anything for our devices. However, it will be here eventually, and devs are most likely already working on porting over an unofficial version.
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There are various dev versions of ICS cooking as we speak; and, I also wouldn't be surprised if Samsung surprises everyone with an official version on/around March 15th... including a US version.
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There are various dev versions of ICS cooking as we speak; and, I also wouldn't be surprised if Samsung surprises everyone with an official version on/around March 15th... including a US version.
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I feel the same way. ATT and Samsung know they need to do something to pull ahead of android competition; they've done it with quality android hardware, now they need to do it with consumer peace-of-mind on the software upgrade front. Nowhere has Samsung said that ICS for "international note" is coming in Q1 2012. They merely say it is coming to the "note", period. I think ICS will come for the US variant sooner rather than later. I know when I got my Atrix, people whined and hollared that it would never get GB. ATT delivered GB very soon, to the scorn of the red-faced naysayers. I know the Atrix was Motorola, but its still an example of a carrier pushing a fast update. Samsung is an excellent company, especially with their Android devices. If any company leads the way for quicker full-product-line android upgrades, I'd expect it to be them.
Pure speculation and I'm maybe totally wrong, but I think the US Note will see ICS very soon.
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thank you guys and gals
This is the downside of getting a newly launched device. I went thru it with the asus transformer 101. That was a little painful in the beginning, but the brilliant minds solved all the problems. It took about a month to really get rolling.
I picked up the Infuse about a year after launch and it was humming within 3 days cause all the hard work had already been done by those great minds in their forum.
The advantage with the Note is it's really great as a stock phone out of the box.
The smart guys and gals here want to advance just as much as we want them to succeed in making this Note the best it can be. So, Patience, and let them work. When they have something good they will be shouting it as loud as can be.
Support and good words go along way. We appreciate you guys more than you know! Thank you for all your efforts, and time away from your work, family, friends and hobbies to devote to this great piece of hardware.
this forum has gotten more action in the past week then the atrix did in the first 2 months. lol.
Damn you guys that are coming from other forums are spoiled!!! I remember waiting foreeevveer just to flash something on the atrix.. and then when CWM came out i was like "wtf is a CWM?" (atrix was my first android).
Stock rom on this phone is doing pretty well for me .Froze all the bloat, not using touchwiz -- and its like i dont even have anything from Samsung on there (besides the SPEN).
I can do without a rom until ICS comes out.. and that is going to do wonders for this device. ICS on the ATRIX is like a breath of fresh air, cant wait to see it on this beast.
Your right, I guess I was kinda spoiled coming from the inspire/desire HD forums. I never realized how long it takes to get things up and running. I apologize if I came off as being impatient. Again that was NOT my intention. I love these forums and appreciate the Devs hard work immensely.
On another "Note" (I know,I know, sorry) I was at best buy mobile last night where I know a couple sales reps and they mentioned that they hoped someone ported over Ics soon as the Samsung rep they spoke with at their store said Ics won't be coming our way for a good while. I myself take that with a grain of salt though. Do you think that a Samsung sales rep would even really know the Ics release schedule?
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Its easy to see all the new users. It takes time. Plus why worry about a flash counter? Do any of you know of anyone or heard of anyone having issues with that? I havent and flashed my skyrocket alot before i turned it in. Seems to just be a way to make n00bs worry. And its working
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Its easy to see all the new users. It takes time. Plus why worry about a flash counter? Do any of you know of anyone or heard of anyone having issues with that? I havent and flashed my skyrocket alot before i turned it in. Seems to just be a way to make n00bs worry. And its working
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Agree so hard
Can't figure out all the freaking out over the flash counters at all. There are no known complications with this. Plus, are you just going to avoid all customization for good? Why not just get started now??
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Can't figure out all the freaking out over the flash counters at all. There are no known complications with this. Plus, are you just going to avoid all customization for good? Why not just get started now??
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I guess I never looked too far into the flash counter. I had read a few threads about it, and people seemed to be convinced that AT&T would get fussy about it. I suppose it doesn't really mean much if you end up putting your phone back to stock and unrooting before returning it. If it wasn't for rooting and such, developers couldn't make apps and flash stuff to the phone, so I guess it doesn't really make sense at all why they would care if the device has been flashed with something else, especially if it is returned to a stock state for a return.
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Can't figure out all the freaking out over the flash counters at all. There are no known complications with this. Plus, are you just going to avoid all customization for good? Why not just get started now??
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I mean I'm at least waiting for more than one ROM, when there are a good supply of awesome ROMs I'll jump right in.
Lol. It's not like all the Dev's aren't answering posts in their respective forums...
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Just curious to know if developers think the note is that bad? I am surprised that at this time with a totally unlocked Note there is only 4 give or take ROMs available for us, which in reality only 2 are kept up to date.
Yet, i browsed the T-mobile section and there are more than a handful with constant updating....
I know one of the main reasons is the price of the Note, developers do this for free and to obtain a note it obviously cost money...but is that the only reason?
What are your thoughts?
nope
My thoughts are that there are already three or me threads complaining about the development. We don't need more, build your own ROM if you think we need more.
Also, learn to count. There are 3-4 TW ROMs, and Eclipse will be dropping soon. They're are also multiple AOSP ROMs (liquid smooth, beans, AOKP, official cm10.1 to name a few)
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I thought the same when I bought my s3 and it picked up. I just upgraded to the note2 and like that scottsroms and beans are available. They are solid builds and there are plenty of mods that are available to accent those. There are more coming from what I understand so be patient. I think the biggest problem for us is verizon messing with our bootloader all the time.
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Keep in mind, VZW was the last carrier to release the note2. That, coupled with the fact that with the exception of the gnex, a lot of the top tier unlockable bootloader devices are on other carriers...
It continues to improve and the phone has only been around for ~3 months.
t0ltecdma getting official cm10.1 is a huge step in the right direction.
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My thoughts are that there are already three or me threads complaining about the development. We don't need more, build your own ROM if you think we need more.
Also, learn to count. There are 3-4 TW ROMs, and Eclipse will be dropping soon. They're are also multiple AOSP ROMs (liquid smooth, beans, AOKP, official cm10.1 to name a few)
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Well no need to start with the insults...i said "4 give or take" . The 2 roms that i said are kept up to date from what i found is CleanROM and Beans, (ok there may be AOKP and others) but i am attached to TW and i have used both and have no complaints, but i am like the majority of the members here, i like to try different roms here and there nothing wrong with that, right?.
If i knew how or had the time to build a ROM i would, unfortunately i don't so i let the professionals do the nasty work, I am not demanding the devs to hurry up, it was just a simple question to try to get my self educated on the lack of devs for the note 2.
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Keep in mind, VZW was the last carrier to release the note2. That, coupled with the fact that with the exception of the gnex, a lot of the top tier unlockable bootloader devices are on other carriers...
It continues to improve and the phone has only been around for ~3 months.
t0ltecdma getting official cm10.1 is a huge step in the right direction.
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I fully understand, i was just curious to know as i had the S3 since release, and as soon as the bootloader got unlocked the Development of it went higher.
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Well no need to start with the insults...i said "4 give or take" . The 2 roms that i said are kept up to date from what i found is CleanROM and Beans, (ok there may be AOKP and others) but i am attached to TW and i have used both and have no complaints, but i am like the majority of the members here, i like to try different roms here and there nothing wrong with that, right?.
If i knew how or had the time to build a ROM i would, unfortunately i don't so i let the professionals do the nasty work, I am not demanding the devs to hurry up, it was just a simple question to try to get my self educated on the lack of devs for the note 2.
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Well there is beans, clean lite, the Verizon clean, a 4.2.1 clean. Eclipse will be here very shortly and the dev of jedi said his is coming soon too. Also, whether it's your favorite or not the AOSP based are still development and those are piling up.
By the I would have flashed a different ROM every day on my s3 so I know about switching it up. My point was we keep getting these threads when I personally think one asking why there isn't more development is to many.
But to answer your question it's a 600 phone (developers work for free) that's been out for 3 months and had a locked (then relocked) boot loader.
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If you actually look at most of these roms on other carriers you'll see that they're just re-themes and the same combination of kitchen tweaks. In other words, just slightly different flavors of the same framework. I seriously don't feel like we're missing out on anything. Not to mention most of these roms on other carriers will port over just fine, it takes about the time and effort required to complain on an internet forum about a problem you could fix yourself.
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If you actually look at most of these roms on other carriers you'll see that they're just re-themes and the same combination of kitchen tweaks. In other words, just slightly different flavors of the same framework. I seriously don't feel like we're missing out on anything. Not to mention most of these roms on other carriers will port over just fine, it takes about the time and effort required to complain on an internet forum about a problem you could fix yourself.
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kintwofan said:
Well there is beans, clean lite, the Verizon clean, a 4.2.1 clean. Eclipse will be here very shortly and the dev of jedi said his is coming soon too. Also, whether it's your favorite or not the AOSP based are still development and those are piling up.
By the I would have flashed a different ROM every day on my s3 so I know about switching it up. My point was we keep getting these threads when I personally think one asking why there isn't more development is to many.
But to answer your question it's a 600 phone (developers work for free) that's been out for 3 months and had a locked (then relocked) boot loader.
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Liquid too!
As long as I have Eclipse I have no need to flash anything else. Not putting the other roms down I have ran clean rom and beans and they are good roms. But Eclipse is all I need
As long as I have Beans & my favorite red/black theme, I don't need anything else myself.....
I think this device has the perfect amount of development...I like the fact there is not 100 versions of the same thing cluttering up the dev section.
kintwofan said:
My thoughts are that there are already three or me threads complaining about the development. We don't need more, build your own ROM if you think we need more.
Also, learn to count. There are 3-4 TW ROMs, and Eclipse will be dropping soon. They're are also multiple AOSP ROMs (liquid smooth, beans, AOKP, official cm10.1 to name a few)
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Beans isn't an AOSP rom, it's just themed that way.
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Beans isn't an AOSP rom, it's just themed that way.
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Yes I meant baked bean. Didn't want to type it out. I'm running beans
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37374134
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kintwofan said:
Well there is beans, clean lite, the Verizon clean, a 4.2.1 clean. Eclipse will be here very shortly and the dev of jedi said his is coming soon too. Also, whether it's your favorite or not the AOSP based are still development and those are piling up.
By the I would have flashed a different ROM every day on my s3 so I know about switching it up. My point was we keep getting these threads when I personally think one asking why there isn't more development is to many.
But to answer your question it's a 600 phone (developers work for free) that's been out for 3 months and had a locked (then relocked) boot loader.
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What did I miss? Where is 4.2.1 clean for the Note 2?
The Note 2 just received official CM 10.1 nightlies, so once some of the kinks are ironed out (which may not be until Samsung releases a 4.2 update), we'll probably see a lot more development coming. CM 10.1 is the base for pretty much every rom except AOKP and PA. And again, we only have official nightly builds so far, not official "stable" builds and that may deter a few devs until we see full blown support.
pool_shark said:
What did I miss? Where is 4.2.1 clean for the Note 2?
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Boy I was full of typos I meant 4.1.2
And just since my typing was horrible, this is the one I meant
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37284311
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Hate to say it but looks like some Note 2 TW devs are leaving the phone. Seems they are vanishing weekly. Too bad because there were some great ROMs out there and I hate to see some of them go for the VZW variant. Really sad that VZW and Samsung are making things so difficult for devs these days. Makes me wonder if they left it open just long enough to steal hard working dev ideas for themselves without having to pay an R&D department to test the OS. Looks like AOSP 4.3 ROMs are starting to take off though, and with the addition of the App Bar, Halo and a host of other mods by great devs we still have a few options. That coupled with great mod apps in the Play Store you can almost get the TW experience with AOSP now.
Or maybe they are moving on to other projects until we get the 4.3 TW update. Then, hopefully some of them will return and develop for one of the top devices still on the market. The Note 3 will most likely be locked down like the S4 so I am thinking the Note 2 may be the last great Samsung device open to rooting and having the ability to flash custom ROMs.
To all the devs that made (or still making) great TW ROMs for our VZW Note 2, thanks for all your hard work. I know I have enjoyed being able to try different ROMs and tinkering with them. You all deserve donations and our gratitude. You guys and gals make the Android experience enjoyable for all of us.
I'm sure they will be back when we get the 4.3 update. This is the only phone that has an unlockable bootloader, with TW on verizon that's actually decent.
BennyJr said:
I'm sure they will be back when we get the 4.3 update. This is the only phone that has an unlockable bootloader, with TW on verizon that's actually decent.
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Hopefully thats the case. Or it may be time to switch carriers. Kinda tired of VZW and their procedures anyway.
If I could I'd leave for an att mnvo but I can't
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BennyJr said:
I'm sure they will be back when we get the 4.3 update. This is the only phone that has an unlockable bootloader, with TW on verizon that's actually decent.
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What's wrong with the s3?
I'm sure the s4 will have an unlocked bootloader soon, especially with the 3k+ bounty.
TBH, this is what always happens. it makes sense that the devs move back to the latest phone. plus the note 3 is coming out soon too, so, yeah, pretty sure what happened to the s3 will happen to the note 2.
at first I really liked TW, but then I switched to the PACman rom and I haven't looked back. the features on TW are nice, but honestly I don't use them that much. i know every user varies, but there are a lot of apps out there that replace TW functionality. I really haven't noticed since switching. I just was unhappy being on 4.1.
As a TW ROM author for the S3 I can tell you guys TW has its limits and there is only so much we can do so we are all awaiting the 4.3 upgrade. We can mess around with themes and included apps, inverting things, but there are limits. It is not like TW has a nightly source code to keep building from. Just be patient and maybe play with some different themes.
Also keep in mind that the xposed framework has removed a lot of the necessity for a true custom rom as it does just about everything that previously had to be hardcoded in. Most custom roms anymore are really just themes with xposed installed by default.
kimdoocheol said:
What's wrong with the s3?
I'm sure the s4 will have an unlocked bootloader soon, especially with the 3k+ bounty.
TBH, this is what always happens. it makes sense that the devs move back to the latest phone. plus the note 3 is coming out soon too, so, yeah, pretty sure what happened to the s3 will happen to the note 2.
at first I really liked TW, but then I switched to the PACman rom and I haven't looked back. the features on TW are nice, but honestly I don't use them that much. i know every user varies, but there are a lot of apps out there that replace TW functionality. I really haven't noticed since switching. I just was unhappy being on 4.1.
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The S4 wont be unlocked...however Im sure something like Kexec or Safestrap will be used to work around the Locked Bootloader. If you read into the details of Qualcomm processors and qfuses, you will quickly learn its pretty much impossible.
JB is still a very active rom, as is Nebula. One of the problems I have run into is that many of the roms are built on the international base. Cleanrom was the perfect rom for me but unfortunately Scott has moved on.
Jellybeans = very active, but I personally seem to always have little issues, I have however never seen anyone else with them.
Cleanrom = dead, but rock solid stable for me
Transnebula = Great support, and very active, however the tab UI just does not work for me... I would KILL to have these guys put together something like clean rom but with floating multiwindow. (One of the devs is also f&*(ing Batman in disguise I swear, listening to his gadget list is bloody awesome)
Lab Rats = a theme beast, but I am not really into theming, seems to me there is always something not quite right with custom themes.
There are also a few international based roms that are very active.
Edit: Oh yeah, also beware flashing Lab Rats at work unless you want your co-workers making fun of you for the boot up sound
kennyglass123 said:
As a TW ROM author for the S3 I can tell you guys TW has its limits and there is only so much we can do so we are all awaiting the 4.3 upgrade. We can mess around with themes and included apps, inverting things, but there are limits. It is not like TW has a nightly source code to keep building from. Just be patient and maybe play with some different themes.
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Agreed. I actually missed my GS3 for about 2 months until the N2 ROMs started picking up. Now I'm digging PAC Man 4.3 and can't wait to see what happens with TW 4.3. Just hope the devs migrate back eventually. The N2 is a great device.
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Morkai Almandragon said:
JB is still a very active rom, as is Nebula. One of the problems I have run into is that many of the roms are built on the international base. Cleanrom was the perfect rom for me but unfortunately Scott has moved on.
Jellybeans = very active, but I personally seem to always have little issues, I have however never seen anyone else with them.
Cleanrom = dead, but rock solid stable for me
Transnebula = Great support, and very active, however the tab UI just does not work for me... I would KILL to have these guys put together something like clean rom but with floating multiwindow. (One of the devs is also f&*(ing Batman in disguise I swear, listening to his gadget list is bloody awesome)
Lab Rats = a theme beast, but I am not really into theming, seems to me there is always something not quite right with custom themes.
There are also a few international based roms that are very active.
Edit: Oh yeah, also beware flashing Lab Rats at work unless you want your co-workers making fun of you for the boot up sound
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Beans just got a Moto X so I hope he builds for the N2 still after 4.3 drops.
Haven't tried Trans yet. Not a big tablet UI fan.
Still need to try the newest Lab Rats
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Real_JESRadio said:
Beans just got a Moto X so I hope he builds for the N2 still after 4.3 drops.
Haven't tried Trans yet. Not a big tablet UI fan.
Still need to try the newest Lab Rats
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I could not imagine going from the Note 2 to the Moto X lol
We have patches to run roms from other carriers, as well as rock solid roms that work flawlessly. X posed has opened up almost endless possibilities, and active themers(<is this even a word?) )help the look of a lot of the roms we do have. One of the best things we have is a bunch of good natured members willing to help, and learn. This goes a long way. New developers are born every day. Some will leave, some will stay. Heck Deckoz just started. Trans nebula is his first rom. This phone is a nice piece of kit, and unless I can get a xperia xl super cheap, and working flawless on Verizon, then I am staying put for awhile. You guys are stuck with me.
Morkai Almandragon said:
I could not imagine going from the Note 2 to the Moto X lol
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Honestly it's a gorgeous device. Almost pure android on it, some nice moto features. I would get it if I didn't have a note. It's honestly still in the back of my mind to get one. It's smaller yeah but it's got a really nice feel in the hand. Very smooth running device
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Feel the same as the op but remaining hopeful and patient. Really sad to see cleanrom go and nothing really along those lines. I like beans also and not sure how much more he can do with it until there's a 4.3 to work off of. I've been messing with nova themes and other mods to keep me busy. That and just enjoying the phone with what we have.
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Nova and the host of goodies and apps has made the TW experience more enjoyable until 4.3 drops. I realize the TW devs are limited until the next update. Heck I flashed back to Beans just to mess with X Posed since I really never have in TW roms.
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SSLauncher is pretty cool as well. Looking forward to trying all kinds of possibilities.
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ExFAT and AOSP
kennyglass123 said:
As a TW ROM author for the S3 I can tell you guys TW has its limits and there is only so much we can do so we are all awaiting the 4.3 upgrade. We can mess around with themes and included apps, inverting things, but there are limits. It is not like TW has a nightly source code to keep building from. Just be patient and maybe play with some different themes.
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Kenny,
Since your are reading ( and cleaning- thanks!) a lot of posts I wonder if you have seen any ExFat support for AOSP roms.Actually I want to be able to format a 64GB sandisk and be able see all ( most) of 64G and be able to put files larger than 4G.
Any AOSP roms/kernels with such support?
Many thanks
Abe
abe_cedar said:
Kenny,
Since your are reading ( and cleaning- thanks!) a lot of posts I wonder if you have seen any ExFat support for AOSP roms.Actually I want to be able to format a 64GB sandisk and be able see all ( most) of 64G and be able to put files larger than 4G.
Any AOSP roms/kernels with such support?
Many thanks
Abe
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Looks like it is mostly CM 10.1 support but found these : http://forum.xda-developers.com/sitesearch.php?q=Exfat on cM
Updates are great, but since TW has its own limitations and we've had 4.1.2 for how long now? Tweaks can only be so tweaky! 4.3 will breathe alot of new life into our phone. I am not upgrading to the N3 lest something makes it more desirable. But seeing that we get the same update it will have, I am willing to wait a month to see what happens.