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Since the Galaxy S and Samsung Nexus two are essentially the same hardware, how hard would it be to port the roms? Would it be similar to making a captivate rom run on a vibrant? Maybe if the Nexus 2 roms can be ported, then we can experience better roms (Not to diss what we have already. Eugene and Bionix make excellent roms)
We're not even sure the Nexus Two exists, let alone whether or not it's a Samsung device...
Though I really hope we get a Super AMOLED Nexus Two
Details are still leaking out but this (link below) is the latest I've seen about the hardware of the Nexus Two being much better then the Galaxy S. If that is true then I doubt it could be ported easily but I'm not a dev. I'm just basing this off the hardware specs being different.
http://androidandme.com/2010/10/phones/samsung-nexus-two-gt-i9010-clears-the-fcc/
Details are in the "Update" part of the article.
Yeah, Gizmodo had a "hands-on" or something, but I won't believe it until I get an official announcement (or a really good leak)
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i;m will to by SII galaxy , but i found 2 models in the market 9100 and 9100G , i found only the difference in the chipset and the GUP only , i need to know which one in better and the newest one ? and i read that you are not allowed to install custom rom on 9100G is that right ? and please if there are any other difference between these 2 models tell me ..
Definitely get an I9100.
Has a better processor, capable of faster data speeds if your network supports them due to the better processor. Lots more options on here/elsewhere so far as custom roms/kernels are concerned.
Do a Google search for the exact differences/specs.
You can install custom roms on I9100G, there just doesn't seem to be a lot of them around. That's certainly the case on here, put it that way.
i found a comparison here between the 2 models , like i said in my previous post all the difference i found in 3G speed, chipset and GPU , nothing else... so do you think regarding the previous differences the 9100 is better? by the way is 9100 is newest than 9100G ?
For me, the I9100 is better because there's far more custom roms & kernels for it on here (about a 20:1 ratio). Technically speaking by way of an "inferior" processor, the I9100G wouldn't even be on my radar. We have networks in Australia capable of much faster than 7.2mpbs.
If something is superior processor/GPU-wise, newest has nothing to do with it
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i found a comparison here between the 2 models , like i said in my previous post all the difference i found in 3G speed, chipset and GPU , nothing else... so do you think regarding the previous differences the 9100 is better? by the way is 9100 is newest than 9100G ?
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For me, the I9100 is better because there's far more custom roms & kernels for it on here (about a 20:1 ratio). Technically speaking by way of an "inferior" processor, the I9100G wouldn't even be on my radar. We have networks in Australia capable of much faster than 7.2mpbs.
If something is superior processor/GPU-wise, newest has nothing to do with it
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As far as i understood from your reply that 9100 is better from custom ROM and kernels perspective but 9100G is better from specification perspective.. Right ?
No. Wrong.
I9100/T has a better processor/GPU and a billion times more custom/rom kernel options.
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As far as i understood from your reply that 9100 is better from custom ROM and kernels perspective but 9100G is better from specification perspective.. Right ?
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No. Wrong.
I9100/T has a better processor/GPU and a billion times more custom/rom kernel options.
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when i was googling i found this nice comparison
That's a good article so far as the specs go, there's a bit of opinion in there tho (the mention of the heat issue with the SGS2, never had these problems running stock & have rarely encountered them running custom roms/kernels).
At the end of the day if having choices so far as different custom roms/kernels are important to you, then you'd probably get a I9100/T. If not, you'd get any other I9100 you like.
With the SGS3 due later this year, the lack of custom firmware available for the I9100G is very unlikely to change, as well as most of the developers living in countries where the I9100/T is the most commonly/readily available device and those devices having seemingly larger userbases (at least on here anyways).
It's entirely up to you.
G = very very BIG no 99% of users regret buying the G model .
But your choice .
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here is also another useful comparison see the last paragraph "Which phone to buy?"
OK. So you should have enough info to make an informed choice then.
after a lot of searching and according to my requirements i think 9100 will be suitable for my needs.. Thanks guys for your help..
Definitely the GT-I9100 !!
If you are interested in modding, playing and getting support for ANY phone, NEVER EVER go with models that have been branched-off from initial model. They just cause trouble regarding updating, developer support, and OEM support. They're a cheap sales trick, used by companies (Samsung) who are more interested in selling NEW phones without any long term commitment to support like Apple's 3+ years.
Just look at what happened to the I9000! It is still my opinion the best phone ever created by Samsung, but they already stopped supporting it long time ago, including by Google Android ICS, even though there is no apparent reason for not having that support...
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Just look at what happened to the I9000! It is still my opinion the best phone ever created by Samsung, but they already stopped supporting it long time ago, including by Google Android ICS, even though there is no apparent reason for not having that support...
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That's not entirely true. Yeah the S1 may not be getting ICS, but support has not stopped.
On the S1 forum the latest firmware is a leaked JVU 2.3.6, same version as the latest S2 firmware. It also has plenty of new changes, including the Note lockscreen & faceunlock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1431596
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hi,
so after reading about the differences between the two models i feel kinda screwed. after my i9100 got wet i got some cash from the insurance company and went to buy a replacement.
good thing i'm a newb and didn't think about the possibility of a cheap rip-off version of my phone existing. so i just got a new "sgs2". well great. aside from more than lacking custom dev support it's also supposed to be slower and weaker in regards of game performance.
do you guys think, this will improve or should i throw my phone into the sh*tter and try to get another replacement? if they even had any non-g models. i feel cheated! thinking that for only 50€ more i could have gotten a nexus at the same store.
/edit: i do not acutally plan to heavily mod my phone. just use bacis (root) apps and all that. no custom rom or anything. i only fear that updating to non-official android os versions in the future (like when the sgs2 is outdated in ~2 years) might prove difficult. if i can't get ics on this phone i'm going to murder everyone at that store.
My first SGS2 was i9100 but it crashed and seller gave me my money back. So I ordered the same phone from another seller and he sent me i9100G but on his site was clearly said he is selling i9100 with MALI400 GPU.
So I sent it back again and I am waiting for answer from seller now.
Here is my comparison i9100G to i9100 version:
- i9100G was slower in rendering web sites in Chrome and opera
- same battery time
- G was slower in apps
- I had problems with many apps on the G version, they were crashing all the time: opera, email, games...
I didn't like the i9100G at all, it was slower, less powerful phone with crashing apps for the same price.
so whats the point in having an unlcocked bootloader if you cant even do anything to it..
i have the tmobile version of the galaxy s3 which only has 2 roms available
we cant flash any international roms onto the phone.
when i had the htc sensation i unlocked the bootloader and got s-off
and was flashing international stuff/roms
why cant we do that with the galaxy s3???
i know ill probably get lots of hate on this
or this has already been posted,sorry if
it has..
The international version has different hardware. It has the Exynos processor and Mali GPU. The US versions have the Snapdragon SoC. This requires different code optimization and different communication interfaces for each hardware component. There are actually a lot of little differences in the hardware, most because of the Exynos vs. Snapdragon CPUs and the way it interfaces with the hardware.
For example, both versions have the same LEDs and everything, but the Light Flow dev(s?) had a problem getting the US S3 to work even though the international one worked. In fact, I'm not sure if Light Flow is fixed yet for the US S3. And that's just one of the minor differences. More important components could cause huge problems.
I'm willing to bet that the Sensation had all the same hardware, international or not, but the radios were a little different. If that were the case with the S3, then yeah, we could use international ROMs. Different processors (and most likely, different motherboards, too) make a huge difference.
There are more roms than that. Flash cyanogen 9, 10, aokp, or redrum or team sonic's to name a few
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At this point, you can't even flash Roms across different US carriers much less the international version. Which really is an almost completely different phone.
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Just Flash It !!!
The phone was released THIS MONTH.
Go develop something
Is the G2 the worst phone for flashing? Most G2 ROMS are alpha or beta a year and half later. Now it could be a LG thing because the G3 doesn't seem to be much better. Given the track record with this phone would any of you actually think about a Flex 2 or G4?
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Is the G2 the worst phone for flashing? Most G2 ROMS are alpha or beta a year and half later. Now it could be a LG thing because the G3 doesn't seem to be much better. Given the track record with this phone would any of you actually think about a Flex 2 or G4?
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If you get flex 2 you will cry even more about roms....Imo g2 isnt supported like htc devices, i mean that many roms and that many customisation options especialy Venom roms, thats why i liked htc that much, also htc has best looking UI in my eyes, next is G3 Ui, thats why i got g2, cuz i could afford only htc one m7 which has bad camera and snapdragon 600 for preety much same price (used), and i am totally happy with my decision. If you want more roms, buy htc m9 and enjoy
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If you get flex 2 you will cry even more about roms....Imo g2 isnt supported like htc devices, i mean that many roms and that many customisation options especialy Venom roms, thats why i liked htc that much, also htc has best looking UI in my eyes, next is G3 Ui, thats why i got g2, cuz i could afford only htc one m7 which has bad camera and snapdragon 600 for preety much same price (used), and i am totally happy with my decision. If you want more roms, buy htc m9 and enjoy
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Yeah. the HTC M8 has definitely been looking like a good option.
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Yeah. the HTC M8 has definitely been looking like a good option.
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Good phone, but i dont see it like some nice "upgrade" from g2.....
The thing is that htc phone have been getting modded for a long time now. With the likes of AndroidRevolutionHD (ARHD), Insertcoin, Venom (formerly pokemon rom i think) these guys have been working on htc phones for years and know htc sense well, coupled with unlockable bootloaders and htc's usually great build quality these developers have no real need to move elsewhere. They do great work just as our developers do but our developers have a different ball game to play. Locked bootloaders are a dev headache. Delayed source code is a headcahe. While the roms may be beta and alpha here its not fair to say this phone/oem is bad for flashing as the developers may not want to leave beta before all bugs are fixed (and some bugs can be damn stubborn). This coupled with the speed google releases new android versions and peoples lust to have the latest and greatest time for development roms often get left as beta/stable and people move on to the next port/source compile of android. I find alot of the time beta roms are perfectly acceptable for daily drivers but my logic would suggest if theres a bug it should be beta (although oems dont seem to obide to that ). Not to mention to alot of people this is a hobbie not a job, life gets in the way of hobbies.
With that said, i do agree that the m8 doesnt feel like much of a step up from here. Maybe you should hang around here flashing roms until the next HTC upgrade comes along and jump to that? At this point i think its fair to say that the latest htc phone will be supported by the big teams, it will most likely gain s-off and support multirom and the forums will most likely be rammed as usual with people who are new and not so eager to read before flashing
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I have a G Pro 2.
Well, that's the most unsupported smartphone I ever had
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The thing is that htc phone have been getting modded for a long time now. With the likes of AndroidRevolutionHD (ARHD), Insertcoin, Venom (formerly pokemon rom i think) these guys have been working on htc phones for years and know htc sense well, coupled with unlockable bootloaders and htc's usually great build quality these developers have no real need to move elsewhere. They do great work just as our developers do but our developers have a different ball game to play. Locked bootloaders are a dev headache. Delayed source code is a headcahe. While the roms may be beta and alpha here its not fair to say this phone/oem is bad for flashing as the developers may not want to leave beta before all bugs are fixed (and some bugs can be damn stubborn). This coupled with the speed google releases new android versions and peoples lust to have the latest and greatest time for development roms often get left as beta/stable and people move on to the next port/source compile of android. I find alot of the time beta roms are perfectly acceptable for daily drivers but my logic would suggest if theres a bug it should be beta (although oems dont seem to obide to that ). Not to mention to alot of people this is a hobbie not a job, life gets in the way of hobbies.
With that said, i do agree that the m8 doesnt feel like much of a step up from here. Maybe you should hang around here flashing roms until the next HTC upgrade comes along and jump to that? At this point i think its fair to say that the latest htc phone will be supported by the big teams, it will most likely gain s-off and support multirom and the forums will most likely be rammed as usual with people who are new and not so eager to read before flashing
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Well said :good:
Far from it. With the LG G2, there are probably more unique options than any other (non-nexus) phone. It can run the skinned G2 software, stock or tweaked. You can flash the skinned G3 software with an updated look. You can flash the LG Flex software. You can run Stock Android in 4.4.4 or 5.0.2 as it's similiarities with the Nexus 5 makes it easier to develop.
I will concede that within skinned roms, the updates are rarer... that will most likely change in the next two months as LG's Official 5.0 updates will go through more optimization until it works as a dev thinks it should.
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Is the G2 the worst phone for flashing? Most G2 ROMS are alpha or beta a year and half later. Now it could be a LG thing because the G3 doesn't seem to be much better. Given the track record with this phone would any of you actually think about a Flex 2 or G4?
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I think the HTC flagships having the GPE editions give them an advantage if you don't like dealing with hardware compatibility issues the CM, AOSP etc ROMS can have.
The # of models of the G2 doesn't help much.. Daily CM 12's right now for just the one edition IIRC?
I had many HTC phones and the main thing is they abandon their phones quickly. Or at least they did as of One X+. Every phone, we'd have the promise of official firmware for a new version of android and at the last minute the phone would be eol'd.
I guess the gpe phones might help porting new stock firmware? Not sure since I left HTC after the one x+. Also, I found HTC phones bricked easy and unbricking was difficult.
But man, sense has always looked the best, and viper rom is always amazing.
But I like lg because the stock firmware doesn't even make me want to mod it. Every other brand I've had (Sony, Motorola), the stock firmware left something to be desired.
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I had many HTC phones and the main thing is they abandon their phones quickly. Or at least they did as of One X+. Every phone, we'd have the promise of official firmware for a new version of android and at the last minute the phone would be eol'd.
I guess the gpe phones might help porting new stock firmware? Not sure since I left HTC after the one x+. Also, I found HTC phones bricked easy and unbricking was difficult.
But man, sense has always looked the best, and viper rom is always amazing.
But I like lg because the stock firmware doesn't even make me want to mod it. Every other brand I've had (Sony, Motorola), the stock firmware left something to be desired.
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My previous phone was HTC One X, HTC said they wanted to update it to 4.4.2 but nvidia dropped support for its tegra socket, so they didnt have drivers to do that, but i see that htc one m7 is doing good, it will get lolipop till end of next month, so i think they got better with updates, at least thats almost 2 years of fast updates what you want more? Even google haven't updated their galaxy nexus cuz of dropped socket support...
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I think the HTC flagships having the GPE editions give them an advantage if you don't like dealing with hardware compatibility issues the CM, AOSP etc ROMS can have.
The # of models of the G2 doesn't help much.. Daily CM 12's right now for just the one edition IIRC?
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I've heard the Verizon model has super sweet CM12 support and everything just amazing works perfectly. I haven't tried it yet but there are several Lollipop roms for the VS980 model, which is what I have and follow dev for.
The amount of number of various models doesn't help, although by now most roms support all variants with options to select your model for the fine tweaks each different model requires. The only model that has issues is the Verizon one using generic roms. It seems the stock Messaging app doesn't like to do MMS (I think because Verizon uses IMS). Not that there are road blocks. Lots of ports have fine tuned Verizon editions with everything working. I am personally loving the G3 Verizon rom port. It has everything I want/need and no issues.
I agree that the LG G2 does have plenty of options to choose from and it isn't just Stock or AOSP or CM.
I would not see any problem with my flash addict, if camera quality weren't that bad on AOSP roms. It's the only reason why I'm not swapping roms like crazy. I hope Lollipop will somehow change it (dreaming).
Coming from the Rezound and then the Razr MAXX HD, the G2 is My Flash Dream!!!! Roms, kernels,and mods- the ease of it all is ridiculously great(specially being virtually unbrickable)!
Actually I disagree. Yes G2 is not the best in the field of development and flashing but compared to many other flagships, I prefere it. Take a look at development section of exynous version of samsung flagships. Also there is no bootloader lock or knox or... Here
So that's one of the reasons after messing around with a few phones, including note3, nexus 5, G3 and one m7, I came back to g2
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Coming from the Rezound and then the Razr MAXX HD, the G2 is My Flash Dream!!!! Roms, kernels,and mods- the ease of it all is ridiculously great(specially being virtually unbrickable)!
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When flashing pay attention to model/variant you have, you can end with brick if you select wrong model.
I would not call it the worst phone but it definitely doesn't have the support the old school Galaxy S2 Skyrocket have, I'm still flashing on that thing even though I'm not using. G2 has a ton of alpha and beta roms but very few official stable roms. I'm almost ready to go back to iPhone if these Android phones keep having short-lived ROM support
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I would not see any problem with my flash addict, if camera quality weren't that bad on AOSP roms. It's the only reason why I'm not swapping roms like crazy. I hope Lollipop will somehow change it (dreaming).
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That is the problem with any other phone too unless nexus or cyanogen inc phones.
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I would not call it the worst phone but it definitely doesn't have the support the old school Galaxy S2 Skyrocket have, I'm still flashing on that thing even though I'm not using. G2 has a ton of alpha and beta roms but very few official stable roms. I'm almost ready to go back to iPhone if these Android phones keep having short-lived ROM support
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I suggest you stick to Nexus devices, which is what I'll do once I sell my G2. They tend to have the best action, but I have yet to see a new community with the variety of ROMs that the HTC G1 had...
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totally hoping that the new rumors that LG will build a Nexus phone are true, and hoping it will be a real phone and that stupid Nexus 6
Hello guys, I want to discuss that. Note 8 is my 3rd phone. I was using Samsung Galaxy s2 and HTC One m7. When I was using these devices there were lots of roms, mods, kernels, discussion topics and devdb threads. For example HTC One m7 had so much roms with a huge variety like miui, aosp, gpe port, stock modified, flyme, xosp etc. Maybe some of us thinks these roms are garbage. Maybe it's true, maybe not but there is not much development for N8 and I'm confused. N8 is a still brillant phone and it's nearly 1 year old. So what are you thinking about it? Why there is not enaugh development for N8? Let's discuss it..
Exynos CPUs for most markets.
Snapdragons comes with a locked bootloader so no development there. Well few touchwiz roms (if you are on a bootloader version that's rootable.)
Exynos samsung doesn't release all the source code (if any) so harder to code for.
Note 8 was expensive and hard to develop for so most went to one plus and not as popular as the galaxy S series.