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What's in my sig right now is working flawlessly for me. I think I've finally found a combination that I'll be using until we get our first official taste of ICS. Been going for about a week now with this combo and it's solid, looks great, and battery life is well above what I was getting with stock.
Do you all prefer to test various roms for the sake of testing or are you trying to find that ONE permanent solution... for at least a good month or two?
Noo sadly i haven't. I like to try new things though
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If I wanted one single rom/theme/kernel to always use without tinkering, I'd still be using my iphone.
Today, I'm on unnamed 1.3.1, Entropy's 12/1 DD, no installed theme. I have modified a few things on this device myself (auto-bright levels, adding AOSP VoiceDialer (to enable BT voice dialing), etc.)
Take care
Gary
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If I wanted one single rom/theme/kernel to always use without tinkering, I'd still be using my iphone.
Today, I'm on unnamed 1.3.1, Entropy's 12/1 DD, no installed theme. I have modified a few things on this device myself (auto-bright levels, adding AOSP VoiceDialer (to enable BT voice dialing), etc.)
Take care
Gary
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how much of a difference does Entropy's 12/1 kernel make vs. the one that comes with the ROM? I don't care about BLN.
Definitely like the galnet miui (recently blocked from xda).
Themes are very customizable and has lot of styling without sacrificing the battery.
Cm7 kernel on conservative/noop at 200-1.2 works perfectly for me
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If I wanted one single rom/theme/kernel to always use without tinkering, I'd still be using my iphone.
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This ^^
I pretty much flash every ROM I can find, if I like it I keep it until anew one comes along. Right now I'm on Task's ICS'd Out ROM- and it kicks ass. not quite as good battery as unnamed, but it looks sexy and is really customizable through JKay Mods and TW 4.5...
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I pretty much flash every ROM I can find, if I like it I keep it until anew one comes along. Right now I'm on Task's ICS'd Out ROM- and it kicks ass. not quite as good battery as unnamed, but it looks sexy and is really customizable through JKay Mods and TW 4.5...
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Dang it, I was hoping it wasn't that good. I've been trying to talk myself into sticking with UnNamed/Entropy 12.1/ICScrewD/CircularBatteryMod/GlowingSBoot.
Oh, well. I hope CircularBatteryMod works on ICS'd...
I think I'm sticking with MIUI on mine. The combination of aesthetics and configurability can't be beat, IMHO. It's also very stable, and I get great battery life. I wouldn't go back to a stock based ROM, it would have to be either MIUI or CM.
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Dang it, I was hoping it wasn't that good. I've been trying to talk myself into sticking with UnNamed/Entropy 12.1/ICScrewD/CircularBatteryMod/GlowingSBoot.
Oh, well. I hope CircularBatteryMod works on ICS'd...
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Haha yeah, thats what I was using. That combo might be slightly more functional, and with ICScrewd it probably looks good too. But for me the good looks stock and extra customizability of Task's make it better for my use. Really, it is whatever works for you though, I'd try both and see which works better.
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how much of a difference does Entropy's 12/1 kernel make vs. the one that comes with the ROM? I don't care about BLN.
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im interested in knowing this too
Started on Unnamed... tried miui for about a week, liked some things about it but felt too prepackaged/ifruity and went back to Unnamed - a great ROM, indeed.
Loaded Task650's ICS'd yesterday and v2 update today... been messing with it too much to compare battery life, but really impressed with ability to customize, with snappiness, and with smoothness. Wifi and cell signals seem stronger, too. Think I'm sticking with this for a while,with Unnamed as a backup plan.
I am running Criskelo rom v31 with entopys kernel.I also have a modified Galaxy Blue theme on it great battery performance and looks great.I love using JKays app. I would like to think I will stay on this for a long time but I have a flashing addiction
checkrom v4 2.3.6 hellraised entropys latest will be with what I stick with. stable and smooth
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I went ahead and flashed entropy's latest daily driver. Not sure how much or if it has improved anything, but nothing seems broken or worse. Note, I don't use BLN.
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Is anyone who's using an I9000 based ROM also using a corp exchange account that requires a PIN? I'm having issues with that combo.
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Like everyone, I ran with various stock-modded ROMs (Perception, Serendipity8). But I settled with Cognition777 (i9100XWKJ3 framework), themed w/ICS Domination which utilizes JKAY mods and I am running SiyahKernel v2.3. I really dig the look, feel, stability; which, is rock solid and most importantly battery life. I have really enjoyed the added options the framework allows, plus the JKAY features are a must-have. I will definitely stay with this setup for many months, until something more solid or impressive comes out.
Only issue I have discovered is the GB built-in tethering doesn't work, which is no biggie for me as I just use the google root-users wired tether app when I need tethering. Wireless tether is just too much of a drain on the battery to ever, be considered useful.
Started out with CM7... Realized google didnt save my app data and what not, so i switched to UnNamed with ICSkrewD and Entropy's DD Kernel.
I may flash Siyah's tonight to see how it does.
Right now i am looking to the best battery life and stability as i patiently wait for a ICS ROM
I flashed the Alpha 7 build for the I9100 and it booted and everything was buttery smooth but no data like stated, so i didnt keep it.
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Started out with CM7... Realized google didnt save my app data and what not, so i switched to UnNamed with ICSkrewD and Entropy's DD Kernel.
I may flash Siyah's tonight to see how it does.
Right now i am looking to the best battery life and stability as i patiently wait for a ICS ROM
I flashed the Alpha 7 build for the I9100 and it booted and everything was buttery smooth but no data like stated, so i didnt keep it.
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i have the exact same setup and imo, it might be the best combo for battery life and stability.
here is my testing with this combo.
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i have the exact same setup and imo, it might be the best combo for battery life and stability.
here is my testing with this combo.
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Thanks for the info!
I have found I can go from 9AM to 11PM with 30% left then charge it all night.
thats with Wifi, sync on and music player playing music all day when i am at work (9 to 6) with probably a total time of 4 hours screen on in the whole 9 to 11 period of time.
if it lasts 9 to 11 and i am a happy camper why change it you ask? I loving to tinker thats why
Rezound is coming in tomorrow w/ extended battery and it's very exciting.
I'm not new to roms/mods (my DX has seen it's fair share) But I am new to the whole "unlocked boot loader" goodness =p.
I'm assuming unlocking boot loader, rooting, de-bloating would be my first steps...but after? I truly dislike sense, it looks very tacky IMO.
What would you guys recommend for someone who is coming to this phone for this first time and dislikes sense? I see so many roms in the dev section I'm kind of overwhelmed...
Look in the dev section sticky for the list of roms. Then read on each thread to find out about the quirks with each sensless rom. There arent to many senseless roms.
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After you unlock and root, you will want to install Amon RA recovery. Then pick a rom. You probably need to decide if you want GB or ICS, Sense or no Sense. Try them all and see what you like. ICS is pretty stable right now, with the biggest issue being Bluetooth streaming. Be sure to read, read, read before anything! I will say this though... the Rezound is pretty damn hard to brick. I don't know if anyone has actually bricked their phone yet.
Well I've been running ICS on my DX for 3 months and it would be a damn shame to have to go back to GB at this point honestly. Sense looks tacky with its cheap bevel filters "/...especially when compared to stock ICS. So a ICS/De-Sensed ROM would be ideal. Bluetooth streaming? Never used it so If that is the only issue with a particular rom I'm ok with that =)
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Well I've been running ICS on my DX for 3 months and it would be a damn shame to have to go back to GB at this point honestly. Sense looks tacky with its cheap bevel filters "/...especially when compared to stock ICS. So a ICS/De-Sensed ROM would be ideal. Bluetooth streaming? Never used it so If that is the only issue with a particular rom I'm ok with that =)
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I love sense less roms. Only have one major problem with then for me.group texts don't worm with them
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I love sense less roms. Only have one major problem with then for me.group texts don't worm with them
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Hmm yeah that would suck. I just got mine today
unlock/rooted w/Aman Ra recovery.
I'm trying to figure out how to debloat right now...so next step is I can install a kernel correct?
What would be a good one to try for a first timer?
I'd keep the kernel for more experienced stuff.
I use ROM toolbox to freeze my bloatware. But then again if you install a custom rom, more than likely the dev has already debloated most of it. If there is something more that you want, you can always freeze it agian.
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Hmm yeah that would suck. I just got mine today
unlock/rooted w/Aman Ra recovery.
I'm trying to figure out how to debloat right now...so next step is I can install a kernel correct?
What would be a good one to try for a first timer?
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I like to use rom toolbox to debloat because it also has other nice features built in and I came from a dx so I've had it for a while. You can install a rom and or kernel now just read carefully for compatibility and such. I had to pop out my SD to delete a ph98img last night because of a main version error. I was scared
Thanks fellas, yeah I had to delete that file after installing AR recovery.
Would either of you happen to share what your fav rom is?
Depends on what you are going for. As I stated in another thread, I've had battery life issues with the ICS roms so I'd recommend the gb versions of cleanrom or rezrom. Both are super smooth. I like the theme of rez but the battery seems better on clean. Best thing to do is try though. Ive been going almost a rom a day haha
Scrossler and Joelz are starting to put in the LeeDroid tweaks, and those are awesome. I'm running Joelz senseless rom now, but Scott's Roms are awesome, and he made a lot of what we had in the "early" days possible.
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Scrossler and Joelz are starting to put in the LeeDroid tweaks, and those are awesome. I'm running Joelz senseless rom now, but Scott's Roms are awesome, and he made a lot of what we had in the "early" days possible.
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Joelz is going to drop LeeDroid tweaks for BAMF settings, I believe. Having him in here has been an awesome addition. And yes, without Scrosler, we wouldn't have much of what we do.
Just curious what people think of the latest ROMs, what the fastest, smoothest, best looking are, etc...
Been using Scott's CleanROM ICS a lot and really like it, but was thinking to myself, that most of them seem to credit the same devs for various contributions and things... so in the end, are they all pretty much the same?
I know that if you ask a Dev they will say how theirs is different, but I would love to hear from end users who have used them all extensively, which ones they prefer and why.
I think that they are all great, but perhaps some are better in certain areas than others, and so a conversation that lays all that out might be beneficial to people who want to just to an ICS ROM, but don't know what one is right for them, and the "trial and error" process might be more than they are able to willing to tackle.
For reference, CM7 that I had on the DX is my all time favorite ROM, and it is the benchmark for me, so any ROM I go to, is to try and get as close to that experience as possible.
Thoughts?
Check out BAMF 1.1 ICS....
I've tried the others and this one has been the most stable, the most current version has great battery life as well.
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Check out BAMF 1.1 ICS....
I've tried the others and this one has been the most stable, the most current version has great battery life as well.
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Bamf is good. I also like Nils Business and Rezrom . Try them all out to see what you like.
Which one has the nicest eye candy, themes, etc?
They all seem fast and smooth, so I am sorta looking for the best UI.
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Which one has the nicest eye candy, themes, etc?
They all seem fast and smooth, so I am sorta looking for the best UI.
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Rezrom always has awesome themes. Nils too. Scotts roms are awesome but are closer to stock theme wise
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Rezrom always has awesome themes. Nils too. Scotts roms are awesome but are closer to stock theme wise
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Ok, cool, I will check that one out as well. Just ran a Nandroid backup so I guess I am ready to experiment. All of these latest versions are based off of the latest RUU, so I should not have to mess with that, or kernels for that matter, correct? Just the ROM itself, and if I don't like it, a simple Nandroid restore?
Of course I have to wipe data and cache before each install, but other than that, nothing else to do?
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Which one has the nicest eye candy, themes, etc?
They all seem fast and smooth, so I am sorta looking for the best UI.
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last i heard mike d is working on some kicka$$ themes and a ics dialer. he hasn't released them yet though.
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last i heard mike d is working on some kicka$$ themes and a ics dialer. he hasn't released them yet though.
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Cool. I am trying RezROM 3.1 right now and I do like the UI and theming, and it appears that version 3.2 is about to drop, if I read the thread correctly...
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Of course I have to wipe data and cache before each install, but other than that, nothing else to do?
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Nope. They all use the same kernel I think because kernel source isn't out. Just nandroid.
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I'm running RezROM and loving it. One of the best things about the Rezound is the list of developers. Whether it's Bored, Nils, or Scott, their ROMS are rock solid and well-supported. Other devs are excellent, too, but these 3 are the ones I look to first.
ive been running Rezrom 3.1 on old firmware with the patch and it seems very nice. only small issue ive has was it seems like ringtones want to go off the media volume and not the ringtone volume setting but i think that is being worked on for the next version.
my only concern on the current wave of roms would be whether it could run on old firmware or not.
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ive been running Rezrom 3.1 on old firmware with the patch and it seems very nice. only small issue ive has was it seems like ringtones want to go off the media volume and not the ringtone volume setting but i think that is being worked on for the next version.
my only concern on the current wave of roms would be whether it could run on old firmware or not.
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I would assume that patching the new ROMs to run on the old firmware will be phased out. It will probably be around for a little while to make it easy for those who may want to go back to GB. Since the new ICS ROMs are pretty much rock solid the only real reason anyone would want to do that is for returning their phone though. Once the official OTA comes I'm sure noone will be making the patches any more. I could be wrong though.
I kinda hope they keep making patches personally, I for one, have had no rush to get the leaked firmware, unless a ROM blows me off my feet that requires it, none have yet.
I've got a feeling that once the AOSP ROMs are working properly they will probably be built around the new firmware. The battery life improvement was worth the 20 minutes or so to do the flash for me. I assume with the patch to run the old firmware with the new ROMs the data arrows are working? Kind of a small thing, but sure is nice to have them back. LOL
Cleanrom DE is pretty nice, has an aosp feel but still has some sense parts, seems pretty smooth but I can never get any of the ics launchers as smooth as sense was
They are all great!!!
Personally I don't like running non official firmware. When HTC releases the official firmware we are probably going to have to go through the entire process again anyways. Also if HTC doesnt deem it fit for official release then i am not using it unless I am having a major issue that needs to be fixed. I wonder if the New firmware would fix my ics performance issues though
I am running ICS now as a daily driver on the old firmware. It is still a tad slower than gb performance wise for me. I have gone back and forth a couple times. I can see why people would want to stay on old firmware or gb til official ics is release. Hopefully ics performs a little better when it becomes official.
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I used to love Sense, but as time has gone on I've grown kind of sick of it, plus it takes a heavy toll on the battery and resources. So now I've been looking for something closer to AOSP. The first ROM I used was Xtreme Outcast's ROM. It was slightly themed and close to AOSP. He hasn't updated in a while so I've tried scrosler's CleanROM DE, because he's on the newest leak, and so far I really like it. It's got some Sense elements, which I still have mixed feelings on, but it's really smooth, and has improved my battery life loads.
I am still using the original ICS leak based off 4.0.1. I have put so much time into it, and have it running so nearly perfectly that I am hesitant to even bother with the more recent leaks and will probably just hold off until official ICS is out or until AOSP RIL is working.
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have it running so nearly perfectly that I am hesitant to even bother with the more recent leaks and will probably just hold off until official ICS is out or until AOSP RIL is working.
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My thoughts exactly, my setup is working completely stable so I have no issue to change until a similar situation.
With a buddy. I have stock gb 2.3.4. I dont like radical change but would like to add speed, teathering, batt life & keep the use of the camara. To confused with all the roms out there. What is going to be a simple....wont stray too far away from Sence rom to get me started. Thx
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With a buddy. I have stock gb 2.3.4. I dont like radical change but would like to add speed, teathering, batt life & keep the use of the camara. To confused with all the roms out there. What is going to be a simple....wont stray too far away from Sence rom to get me started. Thx
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IMO Sense sucks ass and whenever you switch to an AOSP based rom you will never want to go back to sense. I've been using the latestet builds of the ICS rom which works...kinda but you may want to stay away from it if you are not to fimarlier with flashing roms and such.
I would install this ROM if I were you: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/13354-cust-thundershed-v16-cm72-ics-ish-june-4/
I ran that rom for months and loved it, much faster then stock, more features and better battery life when used with IMO's leans kernal found here: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/1258-kernel-aosp-leankernel-minimalistic-kernel-v621-52012/
I'd say something BAMF. SkyRaider maybe. I personally love Sense. I love the widgets, mainly the picture album widget.
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IMO Sense sucks ass and whenever you switch to an AOSP based rom you will never want to go back to sense. I've been using the latestet builds of the ICS rom which works...kinda but you may want to stay away from it if you are not to fimarlier with flashing roms and such.
I would install this ROM if I were you: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/13354-cust-thundershed-v16-cm72-ics-ish-june-4/
I ran that rom for months and loved it, much faster then stock, more features and better battery life when used with IMO's leans kernal found here: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/1258-kernel-aosp-leankernel-minimalistic-kernel-v621-52012/
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Once I switched to asop I will never go back to sense
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I'd agree with the skyraider suggestion if you are new to this and want to stay close to what you have now. Use that and once setup make a backup, then you cam experiment with others til you find what you like and you'll always have the backup to restore if you don't like what you are trying out. I'd definitely give worksheds cm build a run as well to check out the aosp side and decide if its for you. He is an excellent dev and I personally have had the privilege to use his work when he first started and he played a big part in getting me started as well. You can't go wrong with either of those builds.
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I'd agree with the skyraider suggestion if you are new to this and want to stay close to what you have now. Use that and once setup make a backup, then you cam experiment with others til you find what you like and you'll always have the backup to restore if you don't like what you are trying out. I'd definitely give worksheds cm build a run as well to check out the aosp side and decide if its for you. He is an excellent dev and I personally have had the privilege to use his work when he first started and he played a big part in getting me started as well. You can't go wrong with either of those builds.
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I agree with the recommendations. Of the Sense based ROMs SkyRaider and Son of a Bliss (SOAB) are the best. The best AOSP ROMs are ThunderShed (what this poster refers to as "WorkShed's CM build") and SFK's CM7 build (it is based on ThunderShed). I have tried the newer ROMs based on the ICS leak and while it is cool to think you are getting ICS on your phone the kernels are not ICS and so there are small issues that seem to pop up. Santod's NuSense is perhaps the most stable and best looking of these if you want to investigate.
Most people find that every phone is different and what works best on my phone isn't necessarily what works best on yours. Add to that, different kernels and radios work better on individual phones. So while starting with a recommended combination (eg, ThunderShed, using Zoom kernel and .9 radio works well on my phone), you may find a different combination works best of yours. So prepare to try out different ROMs, with different kernels, and different radios. Part of the fun, in fact, is trying them out. Good luck.
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I agree with the recommendations. Of the Sense based ROMs SkyRaider and Son of a Bliss (SOAB) are the best. The best AOSP ROMs are ThunderShed (what this poster refers to as "WorkShed's CM build") and SFK's CM7 build (it is based on ThunderShed). I have tried the newer ROMs based on the ICS leak and while it is cool to think you are getting ICS on your phone the kernels are not ICS and so there are small issues that seem to pop up. Santod's NuSense is perhaps the most stable and best looking of these if you want to investigate.
Most people find that every phone is different and what works best on my phone isn't necessarily what works best on yours. Add to that, different kernels and radios work better on individual phones. So while starting with a recommended combination (eg, ThunderShed, using Zoom kernel and .9 radio works well on my phone), you may find a different combination works best of yours. So prepare to try out different ROMs, with different kernels, and different radios. Part of the fun, in fact, is trying them out. Good luck.
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So prepare to try out different ROMs, with different kernels, and different radios. Part of the fun, in fact, is trying them out. Good luck.
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I agree! I'm trying to decide what features I like most. It's good to try different ROMs to see just that.
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I agree! I'm trying to decide what features I like most. It's good to try different ROMs to see just that.
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if you want to go the cyanogenmod route, use CM7.1.1 unofficial for the thunderbolt. its lying around this forum somewhere, CM7 uses android open source (AOSP for short) and it installs with only 88+MB of data, leaving LOTS of room. talk to me about how to majorly speed up the phone as i have and you will not regret it. i have used cm7.1, plus other tweaks involving sd-ext and cache boosts to speed up this phone 300%.using sense roms is nice, but if you want speed long term, then dont use sense. it clogs the memory with extra visuals that just arent needed.
I haven't flashed in well over a year, and I'm still running one of the first stable ICS builds. That has to change.
Can anyone recommend a good JB-based ROM for me? My priorities are stability, battery life and features, in roughly that order.
I'm thinking of trying BeanStalk 4.3.05 or ParanoidKANGDroid 2.3.3, but am definitely open to other suggestions
Thanks!
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I haven't flashed in well over a year, and I'm still running one of the first stable ICS builds. That has to change.
Can anyone recommend a good JB-based ROM for me? My priorities are stability, battery life and features, in roughly that order.
I'm thinking of trying BeanStalk 4.3.05 or ParanoidKANGDroid 2.3.3, but am definitely open to other suggestions
Thanks!
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I recommend PACMan Rom 4.2.2. Highly stable, very few problems for my Note
phnord said:
I haven't flashed in well over a year, and I'm still running one of the first stable ICS builds. That has to change.
Can anyone recommend a good JB-based ROM for me? My priorities are stability, battery life and features, in roughly that order.
I'm thinking of trying BeanStalk 4.3.05 or ParanoidKANGDroid 2.3.3, but am definitely open to other suggestions
Thanks!
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so many people ask this same question and anyone with real experience here is going to tell you..................
every ROM is going to act differently on every phone. it also depends on what kind of user you are.
common rule here (im not being a jerk,you should know this) is read, read, read.
to show you how often someone asks this very question, go back out one screen and down about 5 threads "looking for an excellent ROM"
I have posted my honest opinions and what you can expect from all available firmwares.
good luck my friend
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every ROM is going to act differently on every phone. it also depends on what kind of user you are.
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This is why I am trying to describe what kind of user I am. To reiterate, my priorities are stability, battery life, functionality and speed, roughly in that order.
To elaborate, I want:
Something that will run smoothly
Something who's battery will last for a day if I use it with moderation
Something that, while not necessarily on the bleeding edge of development, has lots of new features
Something with a smooth UI and good, modern capabilities
In terms of specific features that I'd like to try or find necessary, I want a ROM that supports the Jelly Bean panoramic picture mode; one that supports Wifi Hotspots; one with a good toggle menu for preserving battery and turning on / off common features, flash, etc.; and one that has a variety of other useful things to explore / try out. Maybe something with good audio capabilities?
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This is why I am trying to describe what kind of user I am. To reiterate, my priorities are stability, battery life, functionality and speed, roughly in that order.
To elaborate, I want:
Something that will run smoothly
Something who's battery will last for a day if I use it with moderation
Something that, while not necessarily on the bleeding edge of development, has lots of new features
Something with a smooth UI and good, modern capabilities
In terms of specific features that I'd like to try or find necessary, I want a ROM that supports the Jelly Bean panoramic picture mode; one that supports Wifi Hotspots; one with a good toggle menu for preserving battery and turning on / off common features, flash, etc.; and one that has a variety of other useful things to explore / try out. Maybe something with good audio capabilities?
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again, if you haven't, read the other post.
from the sounds of it, you may want to go with 4.1.2. it is based off of Touchwiz. SUPER solid and great support from the community. not many updates. it is so solid, it does not need them. but others are still there for support.
personal choice.......PADAWAN........others have had some issues with lag (biggest complaint) and I refer them ( an I have the most thanks on thread) to p.355-378. read through those pages. obviously others have not figured it out cause they don't read. those setting had my phone running better than it ever ran, even out of box.
the only way you will know is to try for yourself. but it is lie Trident gum.............4 out of 5 dentist surveyed.........
as always, good luck in your hunt
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from the sounds of it, you may want to go with 4.1.2. it is based off of Touchwiz. SUPER solid and great support from the community. not many updates. it is so solid, it does not need them. but others are still there for support.
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I want to make sure that I understand this correctly. The latest update pushed out by SAMSUNG for the i717 was 4.1.2, so therefore the roms built off of 4.1 are using SAMSUNG TouchWiz as a base. The one's built off of 4.2 are using some other base, be it AOKP, CM, etc. Is this correct?
I'm not so certain that I want to go to a 4.1 ROM. Looking over the feature-set of Google's 4.2, I'm seeing quite a bit that I want - for instance, I *really* want Photo Sphere.
I think that if there's a stable version of 4.3 that isn't a battery hog, and that has a decent extended feature-set on-top of it, then that's what I want. That said, if 4.3 is very unstable I'm up for trying 4.2. The only way I'd want 4.1 is if there is no 4.2 or above that is good with battery usage and more-or-less stable.
So, any recommendations with that in mind?
phnord said:
I want to make sure that I understand this correctly. The latest update pushed out by SAMSUNG for the i717 was 4.1.2, so therefore the roms built off of 4.1 are using SAMSUNG TouchWiz as a base. The one's built off of 4.2 are using some other base, be it AOKP, CM, etc. Is this correct?
I'm not so certain that I want to go to a 4.1 ROM. Looking over the feature-set of Google's 4.2, I'm seeing quite a bit that I want - for instance, I *really* want Photo Sphere.
I think that if there's a stable version of 4.3 that isn't a battery hog, and that has a decent extended feature-set on-top of it, then that's what I want. That said, if 4.3 is very unstable I'm up for trying 4.2. The only way I'd want 4.1 is if there is no 4.2 or above that is good with battery usage and more-or-less stable.
So, any recommendations with that in mind?
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first part..................correct.
that is the good thing about 4.2, highly customizable, but you sacrifice stability. lots of updates, but I am afraid that is because there is mainly one thing that is trying t be fixed, RANDOM REBOOTS. some have success controlling them with an alternate KERNAL which provides the ability to OC/UV, but it can be a constant maintinence on your part. honestly, there is never a good time for a reboot. 4.2 is a much bigger battery hog and a reboot is only going to suck more of it.
second part.................. that's what APK's are for. if it is one simple app ( for whatever personal reason) someone is stuck on, any times you can install it that way. just download it through browser on phone and install with file manager of choice.
third part.................. not that 4.3 is more unstable or battery hog. (I have better battery on 4.3) not necessarily unstable. I just think it is still very early in the game and trying to get some kinks worked out. 4.1.2 was the same way. everybody is impatient, just the nature of the beast. give the amazing and talented developers time. I find 4.3 very smoooooooth, but I have been getting bootloops and I am thinking it is most likely my APP2ZIPP file (which has my apps) I am flashing. so I don't have to keep installing all my same apps one at a time. don't think it is working with 4.3 transition.
the rest is up to you my friend. its all about what YOU want and what you are willing to tolerate as far as constant maintinence.
oh and by the way I am NOT running PADAWAN right now...........its been to solid. I was getting bored. I am addicted to flashing maybe. I ran it for months, flawlessly. since coming off, the longest I have been on any ROM is MAYBE 3 days before changing whether it be the reboots, battery or bootloop issues.
I am not bored though, it definitely give me troubleshooting experience and enables me to help others which I am enjoying
captemo said:
first part..................correct.
that is the good thing about 4.2, highly customizable, but you sacrifice stability. lots of updates, but I am afraid that is because there is mainly one thing that is trying t be fixed, RANDOM REBOOTS. some have success controlling them with an alternate KERNAL which provides the ability to OC/UV, but it can be a constant maintinence on your part. honestly, there is never a good time for a reboot. 4.2 is a much bigger battery hog and a reboot is only going to suck more of it.
second part.................. that's what APK's are for. if it is one simple app ( for whatever personal reason) someone is stuck on, any times you can install it that way. just download it through browser on phone and install with file manager of choice.
third part.................. not that 4.3 is more unstable or battery hog. (I have better battery on 4.3) not necessarily unstable. I just think it is still very early in the game and trying to get some kinks worked out. 4.1.2 was the same way. everybody is impatient, just the nature of the beast. give the amazing and talented developers time. I find 4.3 very smoooooooth, but I have been getting bootloops and I am thinking it is most likely my APP2ZIPP file (which has my apps) I am flashing. so I don't have to keep installing all my same apps one at a time. don't think it is working with 4.3 transition.
the rest is up to you my friend. its all about what YOU want and what you are willing to tolerate as far as constant maintinence.
oh and by the way I am NOT running PADAWAN right now...........its been to solid. I was getting bored. I am addicted to flashing maybe. I ran it for months, flawlessly. since coming off, the longest I have been on any ROM is MAYBE 3 days before changing whether it be the reboots, battery or bootloop issues.
I am not bored though, it definitely give me troubleshooting experience and enables me to help others which I am enjoying
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Do all of the 4.2 ROMs suffer random reboots? I see you mention that an alternate kernel may help, but are there any ROMs that have either incorporated in said kernel or that have found another fix of some kind for stability?
Also, with 4.3: are the random reboots an issue there as well? What kinds of kinks are current issues?
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Do all of the 4.2 ROMs suffer random reboots? I see you mention that an alternate kernel may help, but are there any ROMs that have either incorporated in said kernel or that have found another fix of some kind for stability?
Also, with 4.3: are the random reboots an issue there as well? What kinds of kinks are current issues?
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On 4.2 they have option to OC/UV with stock kernels. It can just be a constant adjustment in those values to minimalize the reboots. With 4.3 I guess you can say I had reboots, my problem was the reboot would never complete and would just bootloop.
I am just being patient and giving it some time. I know many are working on it cause there is so little action in development thread. Many impatient members have driven developers away by constant pestering. I think many have learned that lesson. That why it is so quiet.
Trust me, it is the calm before the storm
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Hmmm... what 4.3 were you using that gave you boot-loops? I'm thinking of trying PAC-Man, and I'm debating between the 4.2.2 and the 4.3 - as it seems that the latter is fairly stable from what I've surmised.
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Hmmm... what 4.3 were you using that gave you boot-loops? I'm thinking of trying PAC-Man, and I'm debating between the 4.2.2 and the 4.3 - as it seems that the latter is fairly stable from what I've surmised.
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anything 4.3 was doing it. again I am thinking it may have been my APP2ZIPP file.
here is a tip as to what I do when contemplating new ROM...............
obviously I am looking at original OP post for features to what I want. then I go to last page of thread and read backwards. this gives me the most recent problem ROM is having and hint as to whether there is a fix. if it is something I can deal with, then I go for it. if its too much hassle, then I don't.
I thought I was the only one... I I do the exact same thing capt.
2$HAYNE
Now my eyes hurt
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Bubbajoe40356 said:
Now my eyes hurt
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are you welling up or did you get something in your eye dancing in the barn?
captemo said:
are you welling up or did you get something in your eye dancing in the barn?
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All your words hurt them..your very chatty today lol.
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Bubbajoe40356 said:
All your words hurt them..your very chatty today lol.
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im sorry big guy, just trying to help
captemo said:
im sorry big guy, just trying to help
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I know ..and you are. Keep up the good work. :beer:
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Bubbajoe40356 said:
I know ..and you are. Keep up the good work.
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Indeed
Since you, captemo try a lot of ROMs, which 4.2.2 ROM, that you have tried, has lasted the longest without a reboot (how many days)?
Carbon 1.8 was the longest for me thus far, 4 days but after that it went into a reboot frenzy and would reboot 2-3 times a day. Now I'm on CM 10.1 8/23 nightly and it has lasted 2.5 days before reboot. Let's see if it will last longer than that.
Since it's become clear to me that the main issue here is finding something both modern and stable, I've started a different thread that makes that clear in the title. It can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2425090
Poriotis said:
Indeed
Since you, captemo try a lot of ROMs, which 4.2.2 ROM, that you have tried, has lasted the longest without a reboot (how many days)?
Carbon 1.8 was the longest for me thus far, 4 days but after that it went into a reboot frenzy and would reboot 2-3 times a day. Now I'm on CM 10.1 8/23 nightly and it has lasted 2.5 days before reboot. Let's see if it will last longer than that.
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again, everybody's phone is different. I am not sure why, but my phone cant run CARBON, any version. which kind of bums be out cause of all the options available. many of the 4.2's would do exactly that for me, I get a couple of days out of them, then reboots galore. Carbon, (4.2, 4.3, alternate kernels) is just a no go for me. it's like my phone has an allergy.
it was always suggested to me to try stock KERNEL and let it settle for couple days and hell if I had to flash something, might as well flash a new ROM. then I ran out of ROM's. that's when I started trying KERNELS.
most recently, I have had success with BLOWNFUZE's AOKP and compatible UBER (I think it in OP) and also ROOTBOX w/ UBER. ROOTBOX has some pretty cool features. different sounds and statusbar changing colors in different menus. pretty neat. AOKP, just a bit more stable maybe. I am not sure I had the OC/UV settings dialed in just right though. battery wasn't quite lasting me. want to go back and tweak those some more.
in the meantime, and I don't know why I haven't tried in the past, I have been running SONS of ANDROID. 6 days, stock kernel, NO REBOOTS
in between, I am trying to keep my eyes open for some breakthrough's on 4.3. of course I am also trying work out my options for getting the MEGA 6.3.
again, good luck, read, and remember all phones are just a smidge different. that's smidge can be ALL the difference