Hi folks!
I want to buy a new SGS2, I'm coming from the Xperia arc Forums, and have some questions, cause Noob guides didn't really help me..!
So here we go:
1: On Sony devices theres a bootloader, and you can unlock it, but not every device can get unlocked, is it the same here?
2: What is the difference between "Original Android Development" and "Android Development"? The Arc Forums just have the 2nd one.
3: On Arc Forums you can flash kernels with a unlocked bootloader only, and flash firmwares with a program called "Flashtool" and Custom ROMs with CWM. My question: How can I flash firmwares to the SGS2? Is there such program too or what is it?
(I already found out how to root )
Well, that are all my questions for now! I hope you guys can help me!
Regards,
intel_c0re
Welcome to the S2 forums......
IMO the S2 (although not a cutting edge phone) is a nice phone.....
Samsung bootloaders are not locked....no ussue....
Root and cwm are usually contained in the same custom kernel.....some of which can be flashed from the stock recovery (search for PhilZ)
Other kernels (and firmwares) need to be flashed by a program called ODIN.....which I guess is similar to the program you mentioned......
ODIN seemed daunting at first...but if you do enough searching and reading (plenty of threads here) you won't go far wrong.
As for the difference between 'Android Development' and 'Original Android Development'......not entirely certain....there may have been a difference to begin with.....but what difference there was...seems to have been 'muddied' over time.......
Finally.....
I don't know what things were like over on the Sony forum, but here there's an unwritten but 'vigorously enforced' rule.....
Search, read, learn, understand then do.....
*some* folks here have a very short fuse when it comes to answering questions that "noobs" have created new threads for (without searching first).......remember the above rule; and you'll get a lot out of this forum.....
Good luck mate...
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If you buy the phone new, the FIRST thing to check is whether it's running ICS 4.0.4.
If it is, be very careful......
Search for emmc brickbug for details.....there's a 'stickyed' thread about it in one of the sections. Read it fully to understand the issue before doing ANYTHING to your phone.....
Sent from my rooted, de bloated, stock JB powered S2 via PhilZ kernel and XDA developers app
intel_c0re said:
Hi folks!
I want to buy a new SGS2, I'm coming from the Xperia arc Forums, and have some questions, cause Noob guides didn't really help me..!
So here we go:
1: On Sony devices theres a bootloader, and you can unlock it, but not every device can get unlocked, is it the same here?
2: What is the difference between "Original Android Development" and "Android Development"? The Arc Forums just have the 2nd one.
3: On Arc Forums you can flash kernels with a unlocked bootloader only, and flash firmwares with a program called "Flashtool" and Custom ROMs with CWM. My question: How can I flash firmwares to the SGS2? Is there such program too or what is it?
(I already found out how to root )
Well, that are all my questions for now! I hope you guys can help me!
Regards,
intel_c0re
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You don't need to root. Just flash a custom recovery, then wipe data+cache in recovery, and flash a ROM. As simple as that. No extra steps required.
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keithross39 said:
Welcome to the S2 forums......
IMO the S2 (although not a cutting edge phone) is a nice phone.....
Samsung bootloaders are not locked....no ussue....
Root and cwm are usually contained in the same custom kernel.....some of which can be flashed from the stock recovery (search for PhilZ)
Other kernels (and firmwares) need to be flashed by a program called ODIN.....which I guess is similar to the program you mentioned......
ODIN seemed daunting at first...but if you do enough searching and reading (plenty of threads here) you won't go far wrong.
As for the difference between 'Android Development' and 'Original Android Development'......not entirely certain....there may have been a difference to begin with.....but what difference there was...seems to have been 'muddied' over time.......
Finally.....
I don't know what things were like over on the Sony forum, but here there's an unwritten but 'vigorously enforced' rule.....
Search, read, learn, understand then do.....
*some* folks here have a very short fuse when it comes to answering questions that "noobs" have created new threads for (without searching first).......remember the above rule; and you'll get a lot out of this forum.....
Good luck mate...
EDIT.....
If you buy the phone new, the FIRST thing to check is whether it's running ICS 4.0.4.
If it is, be very careful......
Search for emmc brickbug for details.....there's a 'stickyed' thread about it in one of the sections. Read it fully to understand the issue before doing ANYTHING to your phone.....
Sent from my rooted, de bloated, stock JB powered S2 via PhilZ kernel and XDA developers app
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Thank you very much! And what happens if the device is on JB or even GB?
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JB and GB are unaffected by brickbug. ....the only one to watch out for is ICS 4.0.4.......
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Lol this forum is a lot more vicious than the Sony ones.
Read up about backing up your efs folder and get Odin set up on your PC so you can revert back to it....same as you would with flash tool.
Yes, and some people (particularly the ones with an IQ below 25) have a habit of always spoonfeeding everyone even the most basic information that's been posted here thousands of times before, and almost always in the preceding few days. Which actually increases the prevalence of busted phones, I.E people who learn stuff for themselves tend not have that happen.
This is one of the reasons why many (more & more these days) people here get so 'short', as much as n00bs asking the most dopey questions time & again and being too lazy to search through some threads.
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Yes, and some people (particularly the ones with an IQ below 25) have a habit of always spoonfeeding everyone even the most basic information that's been posted here thousands of times before, and almost always in the preceding few days. Which actually increases the prevalence of busted phones, I.E people who learn stuff for themselves tend not have that happen.
This is one of the reasons why many (more & more these days) people here get so 'short', as much as n00bs asking the most dopey questions time & again and being too lazy to search through some threads.
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You should go a little easy on the answering guy's(about the IQ 25 guy's I think most are newbies trying to increase post count.. Lol) , because as far as I am concerned google search produce's solutions for most problem (a little confusing yes, but anybody with a little patience can understand them), on that basis most questions asked here are "lazy" questions, but still most people are answering here because they want to, nobody is forcing anybody to do so after all, just some time ago you solved a guy's problem by suggesting him to use a Static IP, that solution can be easily found through Google, but still you choose to answer, people tend to be people and want everything to be easy, (why do you think a graphical interface is necessary nowadays) some are plain idiotic and will jump without thinking, I don't support spoonfeeding but giving a small description and suggesting to read is always a good answer.
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Yeah. ...it's better to point them in the right direction than to vicariously flame them and insult their intelligence level........
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Yes, and some people (particularly the ones with an IQ below 25) have a habit of always spoonfeeding everyone even the most basic information that's been posted here thousands of times before, and almost always in the preceding few days. Which actually increases the prevalence of busted phones, I.E people who learn stuff for themselves tend not have that happen.
This is one of the reasons why many (more & more these days) people here get so 'short', as much as n00bs asking the most dopey questions time & again and being too lazy to search through some threads.
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Deleted, you're not worth it.
Thanks to the guys who helped me here! If I get problems I'll post here, I hope you can still help me then!
I'll purchase the phone on Saturday and start working on it. I'm not sure because I couldn't watch in the settings and I never had a phone of the Galaxy series, so, is this GB or ICS? tbh it looks a bit GB for me but what do you think? I've posted an attachment.
Thank's for your attention!
So much butthurt in this thread (Particularly the OP who's a lazy n00b & some other guy who's of no consequence).
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Yes, and some people (particularly the ones with an IQ below 25) have a habit of always spoonfeeding everyone even the most basic information that's been posted here thousands of times before, and almost always in the preceding few days. Which actually increases the prevalence of busted phones, I.E people who learn stuff for themselves tend not have that happen.
This is one of the reasons why many (more & more these days) people here get so 'short', as much as n00bs asking the most dopey questions time & again and being too lazy to search through some threads.
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Hey Mistah, i do get ur point for now 'Search before posting', well thats good.but things like the highlighted one doesn't do good to ur stature,so do please edit the post of urs for now ma8
Something tells me that *somebody* needs to moderate their tone......glad I'm not the only one to notice this........
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keithross39 said:
Something tells me that *somebody* needs to moderate their tone......glad I'm not the only one to notice this........
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Good, I removed that part, so what's with the phone? Can you see the firmware by the lockscreen?
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Settings>>about device>>android version. ......
That'll tell you for certain......
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keithross39 said:
Settings>>about device>>android version. ......
That'll tell you for certain......
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^^^^^ if only there were people like this guy when I first started on the s2!!! Luckily there are a few others who will also help out but things get easier over time. As for the lock screen, looks like GB but always worth checking in settings to be 100% custom themes can be found on play store and finally realise how many there are since my 3 year old has now taken over the s2 as a toy and changes everything daily
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keithross39 said:
Settings>>about device>>android version. ......
That'll tell you for certain......
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I told that I can only watch the lock screen, but I found out that it's GB already.
So..
I think this is done for now! I'll give news here about the phone then.
Thank you!
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So much butthurt in this thread (Particularly the OP who's a lazy n00b & some other guy who's of no consequence).
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Friend, you should learn to show some respect, as the saying goes "give respect and get respect". Everybody was a noob once, I respect you, since I myself have learned a lot from you directly and in-directly, but showing disrespect to noobs as well as people who answer's is wrong, which as Sun90 said is bad for your stature, "to err is human" everybody makes mistakes nobody can be perfect all the time, if you find somebody is wrong or has made a mistake, politely correct them, who know's maybe the other party could be a genius who made a mistake, who are we to insult them? I really do hope you take this message the right way, as I mean no offence to you.
Keith, buddy I really appreciate what you are doing here, because pointing people in the right direction is always right. :good:
Sent from the little guy
I just purchased the SGS2, but how can I root JB 4.1.2 (XWLSD)?
Thanks!
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Not sure if this as been asked recently, but I have a question specifically for Intratech, I was wondering what you currently have running on your S2, ie xwki8 with touchwiz launcher or something else and is it rooted?
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Not sure if this as been asked recently, but I have a question specifically for Intratech, I was wondering what you currently have running on your S2, ie xwki8 with touchwiz launcher or something else and is it rooted?
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Probably II1 rooted .
jje
weirdest. thread. ever.
Darkside im crushed, guess its time for me to find another less judgmental forum, one where noob's are free to ask questions without being darksided.
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Darkside im crushed, guess its time for me to find another less judgmental forum, one where noob's are free to ask questions without being darksided.
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Not one where members are free to reply then .
jje
What JJE said...
Don't you think a pm to intratech would have sufficed instead of this inane thread?
I never understood why someone won't root a device. It's 10 seconds process, besides absolutely nothing will be changed but you will have the root access, so why not do it! And if that query is addressed to a particular member then you should send him a PM instead of creating a thread!
Im my opinion it's worth rooting your device.
To keep as close to stock as possible use one of chainfires (cfroot) stock but rooted kernels. By using a cf kernel all should be as stock but you will get cwm,busybox and root.
Once rooted you can enjoy all the cool benefits of apps that require root like titanium backup, setCPU,etc,etc. Not to mention all the benefits of cwm like backups and flashing from your device,etc.
Just go for it.
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Just thought I’d bring a happy end to this inane thread.
I finally managed to get some time to mod my phone, so its now rooted & running cyanogenmod 7.1, which despite been a massive improvement on the stock rom i used to have, is regularly giving me force closures, which are usually fixed by a quick search of xda, im goin preserve with it for a week or so in the hope that they do a update to blitz the bugs, if not then im thinking about giving miui a try until the modding community can get their hands on the source code and release a stable version of ICS.
Thanks for the advice 'aceofclubs' you’re a credit to this forum.
some people are too rude in their replies...Don't they think that not everyone is a geek in smartphones? I know that they will be zero or less than zero in my own subject or speciality...
If any one doesn't want to reply, then better not to reply instead of humiliating reply.
[Q] Most Stable, most compatible, most feature filled ROM? <ABRUPTLY TERMINATED>
Hey guys,
I have a very quick question, I want to know a ROM that is most stable, that has a lot of tweaks within a tweak manager, cool effects and keeps ALL the Galaxy S II functions (Camera).
I've tried CM7.1, I guess it's a great ROM to replace old device's ROM, but there are many functions removed from the stock Samsung ROM (Task Manager when hold home) and the Camera app (most important for me).
I'm just looking for the most stable (least or no bugs), cool tweaks (CRT/Overglow effect/Overclocking) and one that keeps Camera app to the stock one.
Lastly, if I were to flash a custom ROM, would I be able to flash back my speedmod kernel?
Thanks all
Nicholas
p.s. I would also be very happy if it came with CWM5
Its called SEARCH rom as question has been asked a million times and if you need to ask then you are not capable of using it .
jje
JJEgan said:
Its called SEARCH rom as question has been asked a million times and if you need to ask then you are not capable of using it .
jje
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How many times do you think we will have to put up with this jje?
Its getting quite boring now
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How many times do you think we will have to put up with this jje?
Its getting quite boring now
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Pity is that its wasting space and time bit like the OP .
My view is that if they ask that same question then they are incapable of flashing stuff and end up with a bricked phone .
jje
JJEgan said:
Its called SEARCH rom as question has been asked a million times and if you need to ask then you are not capable of using it .
jje
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Sorry, I know MANY ROMS out there, but I want to know by first hand experience about everyone's thoughts about many of the new ROMs and the most stable ones that recently came out. I just want people's opinions, and not a written guarantee on a forum post. I'm very sorry if I caused so much of a nuisance.
If you want people opinions, why dont you spend time reading through the threads of those particular roms, they will give you all the feedback you need....
JJEgan said:
Pity is that its wasting space and time bit like the OP .
My view is that if they ask that same question then they are incapable of flashing stuff and end up with a bricked phone .
jje
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As I clearly stated before, I have flashed CM7.1 and have not bricked. I don't think I'm incapable of flashing, as I flashed many phones recently, and I made many USB jigs for my phone and my friend's phone, I'm not that kind of Android newbie as you think I am, I used MANY Android secondary phones in the past since Android 1.6, and I flashed many different kinds of ROMs on many other devices ever since.
This thread is only asking for NEW opinions on the latest ROMs for the Galaxy S II, I want to know through experience if you like it or not, if it's good to use and if it still retains complete factory functionality.
Amazing.......I actually would of thought people who actually value their time, would just write one word like "VillainROM" or "CM" or "Cognition" and then make it to be 10 chars in total.
Thanks, what amazing people here.
What makes this thread different from the other 10 on this forum that are asking exactly the same question?
Darkside Agent said:
What makes this thread different from the other 10 on this forum that are asking exactly the same question?
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First one from a Hong Kong user ???
haha!
that makes all the difference then!
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First one from a Hong Kong user ???
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YEAHHHHH
first HK user to actually post about this topic hehe
Anyways, since this is on the first page, any new guys to custom ROMs, this is the HUGE list, heard from Darkside and JJE from dozens and dozens of posts that it really depends on your taste of ROMs so there really isn't a "best" ROM, this is the HUGE list of ROMs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1253665
Thanks to Swi7chblade for this useful thread
Darkside Agent said:
How many times do you think we will have to put up with this jje?
Its getting quite boring now
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I'm pissed just like him when I see the same carbon copied thread: "hello guys, because i am a very important person, i deserve special treatment and I want you all to find me the best rom, which fulfills the following requirements: x,y,z."
Come on... there's the forum, there are 100 similar threads open, read the descriptions, do something.
Well, it is a very generic and most commonly asked question as I checked around the forum, it would be best if a ROM list was stickied, so these types of questions would be eliminated.
nicholaschum said:
Well, it is a very generic and most commonly asked question as I checked around the forum, it would be best if a ROM list was stickied, so these types of questions would be eliminated.
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As opposed to actually opening dev section and reading what each custom rom does .
If you are to lazy to do that then you are flashing a rom with no understanding of what you are doing or why that = bricked phone newbies cries help post .
jje
True that JJE, I would hate when that happens - when people don't know what they're doing, brick their phones, and then start a new thread asking for help. I understand.
I took four whole days looking at this forum, through almost 200 threads thoroughly, but most people I presume want to do it immediately and want to know the best ROMs at that very moment.
But anyways, the thread I linked was stickied and was very helpful.
Thread Terminated guys.
nicholaschum said:
I presume want to do it immediately and want to know the best ROMs at that very moment.
But anyways, the thread I linked was stickied and was very helpful.
Ok best rom XXXX
Yesterday
Today BBBBB
Tomorrow
ZZZZ
Their is no best rom never has been and never will be otherwise we have only one rom .
jje
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JJEgan said:
nicholaschum said:
I presume want to do it immediately and want to know the best ROMs at that very moment.
But anyways, the thread I linked was stickied and was very helpful.
Ok best rom XXXX
Yesterday
Today BBBBB
Tomorrow
ZZZZ
Their is no best rom never has been and never will be otherwise we have only one rom .
jje
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+1 totally agree
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I'm a semi noob who has flashed a few ROMs and have read through alot of the threads in the developers forum trying to find the 'perfect' ROM for me. I'm currently running VillainRom 3.0. It works fine. However, I understand what the creator of the thread is looking for. I would also like to know what other people think is a great ROM and a brief explanation of why they like it. All the ROM threads in the development forum are full of people asking why this or that doesn't work or how do I fix this? I find it hard to find a reason to use any particular ROM from the information in those threads. To cut a long story short, why don't the elitist ROM wankers keep their comments out of these 'Best ROM' threads, even if it's been asked before, and let people who want to share information do so.
Oh yeah so VillainROM 2.5 and 3.0 are good ROMs. They've worked fine for me, and from what I've read of other ROMs I haven't been convinced to change yet.
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I have the AT&T model and I want a ICS stock root without all the garbage apps and shenanigans AT&T forces on your phone.
I already looked around in the ROM directory and I did find this thread which seems to match what I'm looking for: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1752232
Is the ROM in this link a pre-rooted ROM?
But I need to be careful to keep my phone rooted as I don't live in America anymore and I don't want my phone to get locked or I cannot receive calls.
I am currently using a stock gingerbread ROM rooted.
I recommend Task's ASOP rom I have been using it for months through many updates and it just keeps getting better.
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I recommend Task's ASOP rom I have been using it for months through many updates and it just keeps getting better.
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Could you post a link? I could not find it.
You wanted a ICS stock? Try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1650948
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You wanted a ICS stock? Try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1650948
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Nice thank you.
Also would you happen to have a link that would have instructions and download links to flashing a ROM. Its been a while since I last did this and I don't wanna brick my phone.
This is the closest I could find but I remember there being a better one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285894
Why not look in development?????
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Why not look in development?????
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I am and I'm getting a bit confused. If I remember correctly when I last did this all the ROMS i tried were .tar files, now they are all .zip files and when I extract the file I cannot find a .tar in any folders.
T.T
Search for creepyncrawly's guide to flashing. No offense, but you've got a lot to learn, buddy. And uh, I wouldn't post asking questions like "I want this kind of ROM" or "help me learn how to flash again" until you've read a lot, since people around here highly discourage that kind of thing. Just warning you in advance.
Fair enough,
In my defense though I did not ask for explanations in the thread, but links for me to read and figure it out myself : /
EDIT: I tried searching for creepyncrawly's guide and came out empty handed. These forum search functions never work properly, can someone just link me there?
Useful links are here. It includes creepyncrawly's guide, but I've linked that one too, just for you. Good luck!
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Useful links are here. It includes creepyncrawly's guide, but I've linked that one too, just for you. Good luck!
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Thank you very much! Also one more thing if you would be so kind to answer. My phone is already rooted (Gingerbread stock root) so can I skip to the section detailing flashing ROMs?
Sky` said:
Thank you very much! Also one more thing if you would be so kind to answer. My phone is already rooted (Gingerbread stock root) so can I skip to the section detailing flashing ROMs?
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If you're rooted you can skip to installing a custom kernel, yes. Make sure to read the flash counter though, it's important that you know how to do that.
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Sky` said:
Thank you very much! Also one more thing if you would be so kind to answer. My phone is already rooted (Gingerbread stock root) so can I skip to the section detailing flashing ROMs?
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Make sure you have clockwork mod installed, if you did not flash a custom kernel you may not have it. If you don't you may need to flash a custom kernel and then go from there. If you know how to get in recovery try to and see if clockwork mod shows up. If its the default recovery you will need to flash a custom kernel from there you can flash whatever rom you want.
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Fair enough,
In my defense though I did not ask for explanations in the thread, but links for me to read and figure it out myself : /
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This is a self-service forum. Asking people to provide links is just as bad as asking them to do the research for you. There are FAQs and Stickies that cover much of the basics and the search function to fill in the gaps. Even Google searches often return results that end up here. I'm glad you can read for yourself, so start finding things on your own and you'll get/cause a lot less grief in here.
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This is a self-service forum. Asking people to provide links is just as bad as asking them to do the research for you. There are FAQs and Stickies that cover much of the basics and the search function to fill in the gaps. Even Google searches often return results that end up here. I'm glad you can read for yourself, so start finding things on your own and you'll get/cause a lot less grief in here.
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^^^this. Now let me ask u, did he flame him? No. Did he curse? No. He just simply told him the truth and how to help himself in a straight forward manner. These kinds of responses are perfectly fine and should be the norm for anyone looking to get spoon fed. If u can't take the time (I took over a week of reading before I even flashed anything on my phone) to read and search, its not fair to ask someone else to do it for you.
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^^^this. Now let me ask u, did he flame him? No. Did he curse? No. He just simply told him the truth and how to help himself in a straight forward manner. These kinds of responses are perfectly fine and should be the norm for anyone looking to get spoon fed. If u can't take the time (I took over a week of reading before I even flashed anything on my phone) to read and search, its not fair to ask someone else to do it for you.
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Same here bro, even coming from OG Galaxy S (Captivate), i read everything there was on i777 forums (stickies in general and development) before i even tried to flash anything... if only everyone did some reading... I mean I've been running custom roms since September '11, I don't think I've ever asked how to do something so simple, really tho? Which ics rom? Just read the first few pages of each thread that interests you, Itll help you and XDA as A whole. I've yet to brick my phone, I've gone thru numerous roms. Not trying to be a *****, but what you're asking XDA members to do for you is remedial...
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I'm sort of in the same boat, I'm on UnNamed and now with official ICS out I'm looking at development and reading up again and it's getting confusing because I see AJs rom and it seems nice but I don't seem to see (correct me if I'm wrong) Entropy as active on kernel development and UnNamed has sort of been "abandoned" other than Ryudes project. I guess what a lot of people are hoping for is an "UnNamed" style ICS with a very stable stock based kernel, all stock flame aside, that's 100% daily driver capable. I like 2.3.4, does everything I need my phone to do daily, I rely heavily on gps and bluetooth for driving which are some of the issues I read about with the ported kernels, as well as various mic swap stuff which is intimidating to be completely honest. Does anyone know if there is work on something stock based with a DD style kernel? I know this is fairly new ground so I'm not wanting to come off as ungrateful for the work that is going on and that has been done.
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I respect everyone's answers and tolerance. Please keep in mind though while this may be seem trivial to the advanced users this can be very confusing/overwhelming for noobs. I am grateful for the guidance provided thus far and can say I am making a solid effort to figure this out on my own.
I have successfully flashed the ICS ROM/Kernel provided by creepy with the help of the forum members. I did make a few mistakes though, I did not wipe the Dalvik cache or data, and did not bother performing a factory reset before hand. Either way, the phone is running fine aside from my wallpaper image not panning through desktop windows, apparently this has been discussed before; but searching the forums, google, and few pages of threads has been fruitless.
Sky` said:
I respect everyone's answers and tolerance. Please keep in mind though while this may be seem trivial to the advanced users this can be very confusing/overwhelming for noobs. I am grateful for the guidance provided thus far and can say I am making a solid effort to figure this out on my own.
I have successfully flashed the ICS ROM/Kernel provided by creepy with the help of the forum members. I did make a few mistakes though, I did not wipe the Dalvik cache or data, and did not bother performing a factory reset before hand. Either way, the phone is running fine aside from my wallpaper image not panning through desktop windows, apparently this has been discussed before; but searching the forums, google, and few pages of threads has been fruitless.
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Yes, I agree that preparing to flash something on your phone when you start with no knowledge can be confusing, and overwhelming for some. There are clearly differences in how the mind works from one person to another. Some pick up technical issues fairly quickly, others (my wife, who is a musician with creative temprament, for instance) have difficulty even retaining the technical information they have already learned.
However, you flashed UCLE5 stock plus root from the OP of my thread in the development forum without first doing a wipe data/factory reset. So did you read through the text of the OP of that thread and fail to understand what was written there, or did you just not read it? If you are the type of person that doesn't grasp technical issues easily or at all, then you should not be messing with your phone. This is a ~$500.00 device which you could easily destroy if you do the wrong thing.
Or... you should take as long as you need to fully understand what you are doing, even if it takes weeks or months before you flash anything. Let go of instant gratification for once.
I sure hope you followed the OP of the thread and flashed a custom kernel. If you haven't, then whatever you do, Do Not Do A Wipe Data/Factory Reset while the UCLE5 kernel is still installed.
Further, you have started several different threads and posted in others, all about the same issue, which is very close to spamming the forums. Please make yourself aware of the rules of this place, and conform to them.
As far as the wallpaper issue, I find it hard to believe that you could search and find absolutely nothing on this. All the ICS leaks contain this bug, or feature. The new SGS III also has the exact same issue. You can set a portrait wallpaper but not a scrolling one. There are a multitude of wallpaper programs on the Google Play Store that will fix the issue. You can also install another launcher, such as Apex, to fix the issue.
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^^^this. Now let me ask u, did he flame him? No. Did he curse? No. He just simply told him the truth and how to help himself in a straight forward manner. These kinds of responses are perfectly fine and should be the norm for anyone looking to get spoon fed. If u can't take the time (I took over a week of reading before I even flashed anything on my phone) to read and search, its not fair to ask someone else to do it for you.
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Yeah, but someone will STILL get offended. lol
And I'm going to +1 to all who suggested Task650's AOKP Rom's. I've been running them for quite a while and they're one of the best around.
I am fairly new to rooting so far I have explored app removal, have created full back ups, performed a restore, have flashed a few zips including the new 4.2 camera. Now I want to move on particularly with a view to increasing speed/smoothness etc for which I know that I will need to flash a ROM and or kernel. It is not the how that bothers me so much - lots of good advice here I have TWRP installed, have ODIN both desktop and mobile ODIN, but WHICH to try. I am currently on JB 4.1.2 stock rooted with an i9300. Through different apps I can find lots of compatible ROMS listed but almost no information about which ones are considered good and why. Clearly I want to start with one that is better, or at least as good as, my current stock but none of the listed ROMS say anything much about their features. There is a little sparse information about Kernels but not much for a person starting out to flash their first ROM. I have searched on here for any kind of comparison table, but if there is one I am either searching in the wrong forums or not wording the search well.
So I wondered if people could share their favorite ROM/Kernel and a little about what it can do or point me to a reliable online comparison.- obviously one with 4.2 would be good but even a 4.1.2 improvement would be helpful
no. read the rules
Give MiUI a go over on miui android.
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gbswales said:
searching in the wrong forums or not wording the search well.
So I wondered if people could share their favorite ROM/Kernel and a little about what it can do or point me to a reliable online comparison.- obviously one with 4.2 would be good but even a 4.1.2 improvement would be helpful
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1935514
Please start by reading the faqs and guides first .
jje
Here is The Best ROM ever!! Must try!
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Thank you but I am puzzled
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I glance through forum rules in the same way that I read terms and conditions and instruction manuals - that is that I scan them for anything that may be important and refer to them occasionally if I find I am doing something wrong. I would strongly suspect that many people do not even do this much. So having encountered a problem of apparently doing something wrong I took the trouble (once I had found them) to read fully through the rules here http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?a=81 . In all honesty I cant see how my post contravenes any rule in that, as a newbie, I am just asking for opinions and sources for what I need. I could have just googled but the last time I did that I nearly bricked my tablet, and was told that this was the place to come for help and advice. I did follow the rule to search the forums first but that didn't turn up anything useful
My instinct was to post this in the developer forum but, since this clearly states it is for experienced user/developer discussion only, I didn't.
I don't understand why it would be so wrong to have feature lists and experience comments for what is developed here. I did find some very good descriptions from Omega and for that reason will probably try one of these first but it would be nice to know how others stack up and whether, for example, there are any other 4.2 ROMs out there.
I do thank you for taking the time to read my request.
Clive
Two posts prior to yours is a link to the thread concerning why best Rom threads aren't allowed
i recommend playing with stock roms first before trying custom roms. get to know your phone first.
flash
root
debloat
apply mods
etc
etc.
I have found that now - though not in main rules!
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Two posts prior to yours is a link to the thread concerning why best Rom threads aren't allowed
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I have to say I don't understand why, despite the explanation, because the nature of a forum is that members can answer the posts that they want to and ignore those they feel are irrelevant. I think by comparison what I really mean is a feature list - after all the main for rooting a phone (other than "because I can") is, I would think, because (a) you want more control (b) you want to get rid of bloatware (c) because you want features that your current ROM doesn't have but which could be available (d) because you want to overclock the processor - within sensible limits, or not - All of these in my experience amount to wanting a "cooler smarter device"
I do appreciate that this is a developers forum and I will in future try and pay more attention to rules here. Would it be wrong to ask if any of the experienced developers here know where else to go for some guidance about what newly issued ROMs contain, not necessarily rating them but just saying what is different to stock. I have in mind the sort of information posted by Omega in the forums here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663656 If each ROM creator had something similar and they were collated together in a sticky forum it would be really useful - It would be something I would be quite happy to subscribe to with a fee, with the income returned to the developers who contribute. It would be so useful to people like myself who do not have hours of time and (at least until I have gained more confidence) the nerve to keep switching ROMS
Each ROM has a changelog for each release
Just read it
thanks for that good advice
I have been reading more and can see that I can probably flash most of the things I want to my stock ROM
I actually prefer this because I do like Touch Wiz over all the other launchers I have tried
My only concern is that so far I haven't been able update a stock ROM without going through the rooting process again and re-making all the mods - should I look for stock roms that have been rooted - each time I re-root with ODIN I am back with CWM recovery rather than TWRP - I haven't read the benefits of one over the other but I know that on my phone I can't read the CWM commands on recovery screen so prefer TWRP
I am sure that people must have found ways to update to new stock versions without losing root so will keep on searching - time is the biggest enemy as I have been four hours on here already today!
Clive
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I have to say I don't understand why, despite the explanation, because the nature of a forum is that members can answer the posts that they want to and ignore those they feel are irrelevant.
Before the thread is locked .
But this is a developers forum not a fix your phone or make it cool forum .
Users are expected to either have a basic knowledge and if not to bother to read the FAQS and Guides .
I think by comparison what I really mean is a feature list
All listed for each rom in the thread .
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663656 If each ROM creator had something similar and they were collated together in a sticky forum it would be really useful -
That has been done in the past but as we still get multiple what's best rom posts it was dropped .
Its not nerve that is required its a matter of starting where all the experinced users and devs start by reading the basics .
jje
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cynical but at least funny
djembey said:
Here is The Best ROM ever!! Must try!
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As it gave me a laugh I have given you thanks though posted a comment on you tube too
time is the enemy
JJEgan said:
gbswales said:
I have to say I don't understand why, despite the explanation, because the nature of a forum is that members can answer the posts that they want to and ignore those they feel are irrelevant.
Before the thread is locked .
But this is a developers forum not a fix your phone or make it cool forum .
Users are expected to either have a basic knowledge and if not to bother to read the FAQS and Guides .
I think by comparison what I really mean is a feature list
All listed for each rom in the thread .
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663656 If each ROM creator had something similar and they were collated together in a sticky forum it would be really useful -
That has been done in the past but as we still get multiple what's best rom posts it was dropped .
Its not nerve that is required its a matter of starting where all the experinced users and devs start by reading the basics .
jje
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Believe me I read about 20 posts before even rooting and spent three days building up the confidence to do it - even so my heat was in my mouth until it rebooted successfully. I think, as suggested by someone else , I will for now stick to modifying the things I want to change by flashing zips using Mobile Odin (I thought that was an app well worth paying for - really easy to use - I also like TWRP - I just hate the idea of having to re-do the root and most of these mods when stock 4.2 gets released. I have now found a few more detailed descriptions by going into the forum marked for developers only Omega's are particularly good. All these shop window type posts gathered into one place is all I think would really be needed - I just find it very difficult to search the forums because when I started searching on things like "ROM comparison" and "ROM features" I didn't see the post that has been pointed out since about why you don't do this. My foray into this has taken over four hours rather than 5-10 minutes
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JJEgan said:
Believe me I read about 20 posts before even rooting and spent three days building up the confidence to do it - even so my heat was in my mouth until it rebooted successfully. I think, as suggested by someone else , I will for now stick to modifying the things I want to change by flashing zips using Mobile Odin (I thought that was an app well worth paying for - really easy to use - I also like TWRP - I just hate the idea of having to re-do the root and most of these mods when stock 4.2 gets released. I have now found a few more detailed descriptions by going into the forum marked for developers only Omega's are particularly good. All these shop window type posts gathered into one place is all I think would really be needed - I just find it very difficult to search the forums because when I started searching on things like "ROM comparison" and "ROM features" I didn't see the post that has been pointed out since about why you don't do this. My foray into this has taken over four hours rather than 5-10 minutes
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We all go through this, but you will get more confident.
The main thing to remember is if things go wrong, don't panic, walk away, put the kettle on, have a think about what might have gone wrong, reread instructions, check, check, check!
What you musn't do is randomly trying different things in a panic
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slaphead20 said:
gbswales said:
We all go through this, but you will get more confident.
The main thing to remember is if things go wrong, don't panic, walk away, put the kettle on, have a think about what might have gone wrong, reread instructions, check, check, check!
What you musn't do is randomly trying different things in a panic
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And to add a prelude to slappy's post...BACKUP! BACKUP! BACKUP! before doing anything to your phone every single time. So many arses have been saved because of this.
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Please read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1935514
Hey I'm running paranoid android 3.15, and siyah kernel, which allows dual booting and I would like very much to also have a touchwiz rom, and the stock one was gorgeous, and hardly had any problems, (if you know one that's better I'm open for suggestions) would like to know how to dual boot on my phone, I've done some research I couldn't find a suitable answer, so here I am!
Thank you in advance for your time and answers!
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have you tried reading the first post of the siyah thread?
that kind of answers are very discouraging ones, instead, try to point the way to help, not to state the errors, be more friendly, if you were a born natural android-samsung-galaxy-s3-expert, then I think, it is your duty to help others in these forums, if not, then we can think that everything is so obvious to you, that in fact, you have no reason to read this posts, and of course, not to post non helping replies. think about it
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that kind of answers are very discouraging ones, instead, try to point the way to help, not to state the errors, be more friendly, if you were a born natural android-samsung-galaxy-s3-expert, then I think, it is your duty to help others in these forums, if not, then we can think that everything is so obvious to you, that in fact, you have no reason to read this posts, and of course, not to post non helping replies. think about it
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Reporting this post as the second abusive post from you to this forum abusing the same member .
I note that you make no attempt to answer the question .
jje
If he's too lazy to read the first post, I won't be friendly. And next time, if you want tot talk to me, send me a Pm to not clutter up the forum
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If he's too lazy to read the first post, I won't be friendly. And next time, if you want tot talk to me, send me a Pm to not clutter up the forum
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Ummm... Fair enough I guess, I did read the first post though,that's why I posted this, I simply wasn't suited by the answer, maybe I didn't express myself well, what I meant was, II can't find the stock rom for s3, so I was wondering where I could find it
you didn't say ANYTHING about finding a stock ROM. You asked, "would like to know how to dual boot on my phone, I've done some research I couldn't find a suitable answer", which you would know if you read the first post.
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Ummm... Fair enough I guess, I did read the first post though,that's why I posted this, I simply wasn't suited by the answer, maybe I didn't express myself well, what I meant was, II can't find the stock rom for s3, so I was wondering where I could find it
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You can find stock rom on sammobile.com
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you didn't say ANYTHING about finding a stock ROM. You asked, "would like to know how to dual boot on my phone, I've done some research I couldn't find a suitable answer", which you would know if you read the first post.
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Maybe I didn't express myself well enough, I'll admit that the question I asked wasn't the question I should have asked for the answer I'm looking for, but that isn't a reason to get all worked up, anyway, all this is irrelevant to the question and is a waste of time, since you seem to know quite a bit about Android (this isn't sarcasm, I can see you know your stuff), I won't take up your time with questions that aren't said the way they should be. Thank you for attempting to answer the question, even though it isn't the one I should have asked
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=stock+rom+i9300
to answer your question
*Sigh* I just don't see the point in arguing any more
Everytime I try to flash the rom, it tells me installation aborded after 2 or 3 seconds, I read the entire post from top to botom including the seperate post where he talks about bual-booting, and I haven't found my answer. I have looked on other forums, but haven't found a suitable answer.
Finally, I have one point I would like to clear, it clearly states in the siyah post that I CAN have asop primary/samsung secondary. I assumed samsung meant stock, but if I was wrong, could someone point that out?
You won't be dual booting a stock, unrooted rom. You need to get a 4.1.2, touchwiz based custom rom - that's rooted. I recommend latest wanam lite. You can find it in the android development sub forum
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also like to add that you will find dual boot options in stweaks
I have efficiently managed to dual boot, and I am not having any problems with any of the 2 roms, which is great, I thought it would kind of slow me down but I'm reallt happy
There is one annoying thing though,I probably should have thought about this, but I don't have any data on my second rom (touch-wiz one) all I have is the all share cast data from January, so all I have are my contacts. I was wondering if I could put my 1st roms data on the 2nd one, or if I have to start fresh, since this isn't mentioned in the siyah post, I guess the answer must be clear, but I don't see it. :/
In conclusion, can I put my primary rom data on the secondary rom, if so how?
use titanium backup
Yep. Titanium.
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Ummm... Noob question , I've been trying to work titanium,I've made the back-ups of all compatible apps and system data, but when I boot the second rom, I can't restore the datas, so I have no idea how to do this... :/