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Does anyone have the cab of the Sprint Nav from the new Rom?
Thanks in advance
Ok, I guess not.
Ok, so still no one has this I assume. It seems to be a bit different than the version I'm running.
Can someone point me in the right direction to where I can find how I'd be able to extract it from the stock rom?
Any help is appreciated.
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Thanks a million
how does this compare with google maps or tomtom ?
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how does this compare with google maps or tomtom ?
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I don't have TomTom, so I can't compare. But compared to google maps, I think it's 10x better.
I like the voice directions, as well as 1 click traffic re-routing. This new version, also has a manage contacts feature, although I haven't tried it yet. There is however a monthly fee for the service ($9.99/mo),
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I don't have TomTom, so I can't compare. But compared to google maps, I think it's 10x better.
I like the voice directions, as well as 1 click traffic re-routing. This new version, also has a manage contacts feature, although I haven't tried it yet. There is however a monthly fee for the service ($9.99/mo),
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lol...9.99? thats pointless...why would you upgrade to a custom titan rom, to get free gps capability, then put on a program that you have to pay for anyway? lol.
tomtom is MUCH better. 3d maps, voice navigation (custom i might add, for example i have yoda telling me where to go), reroutes in half a second, can get directions without having gps lock..like if you want to type in a strating and end point it can get directions without a connection, just does it internally. tomtom is way advanced.
If you have TomTom and maps and didn't pay for it, then you got it illegally, not quite fair to compare that to him talking about a legit cost for a program. Check out the costs of TomTom nav for a cell phone and maps and updates and all that...
Besides, aside from the Yoda voice, which is annoying as hell after about five minutes (I have it and Darth Vader on my TomTom One), Sprint Navigator does all the same stuff, but seems to have A LOT more POI's.
No other GPS program gives me traffic in my area, but the Sprint app. TomTom is expensive. But it also has 3D maps, etc. It actually is a very good app and works perfectly everytime and is fast. Plus the app is small and doesn't take up a lot of space. No need to download maps, etc.
I use other features of the custom ROM, FYI; it isn't about trying to get everything free. I'm not too cheap to pay for something I can't get for free.
If you know of a better option for free, then I'm all about it. I guess I could get a copy of TomTom, but with the small amount of RAM on the Mogul, and my small SD card (512MB) for maps, it's a bit of a hassle
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lol...9.99? thats pointless...why would you upgrade to a custom titan rom, to get free gps capability, then put on a program that you have to pay for anyway? lol.
tomtom is MUCH better. 3d maps, voice navigation (custom i might add, for example i have yoda telling me where to go), reroutes in half a second, can get directions without having gps lock..like if you want to type in a strating and end point it can get directions without a connection, just does it internally. tomtom is way advanced.
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I use sprint's Telenav because it's included in my everything plan. For driving directions it's way better than google maps or live search.
Are there any other programs that stream the map data?
I don't have an everything plan, but this thing isn't asking me to sign up for anything. Any idea if I'll get charged?
TomTom only cost $120 one-time cost .. you just buy the software no service fee,
and you don't have to buy it from Tomtom.com .. you can buy a real copy
used copy with real activation key from tomtom for $50 off ebay .. thats
what I did .. $50 one time cost .. and get the best Phone Nav software!!
also Tomtom don't download maps on the go like the sprint, google maps,
Verizon, windows live etc.. Tomtom maps are all stored on the local mircoSD card ..
I used all them Nav software and TomTom 6 dvd so far hands down is the best!!
you can buy it for $50 or less on ebay or $120 sale price ($149 reg. price) from
bestbuy or other stores, one time cost ..or free with limewire lol...
x2 TomTom FTW!!
BTW has anyone used iGO 8?
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If you have TomTom and maps and didn't pay for it, then you got it illegally, not quite fair to compare that to him talking about a legit cost for a program. Check out the costs of TomTom nav for a cell phone and maps and updates and all that...
Besides, aside from the Yoda voice, which is annoying as hell after about five minutes (I have it and Darth Vader on my TomTom One), Sprint Navigator does all the same stuff, but seems to have A LOT more POI's.
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I have and it's too ram intensive to work well on this phone. It's all but impossible to get text to speech working at all. I've also used TomTom off and on for 5-6 years on various devices. I always had a problem with TomTom's lack of street first search, but it's been a while since I last used it so that may have been fixed. My preference for PDA based nav has been iGuidance, mainly because of its text to speech and simple interface. TomTom and iGO have slick interfaces that also slow them down and especially on this ram starved phone, can lead to instability. Fancy graphics are all fine and good, but you're supposed to keep your eyes on the road. TomTom up until recently has suffered from really old incomplete maps, though that's been rectified as of late. One problem and possible added expense with stand alone nav software is that the maps and poi's age as you own it. If you want to keep up to date, you'll have to pony up for regular updates (never free) or regularly replace the program. That subscription price may not be as expensive as you thought. Another issue is that stand alone nav software takes up significant storage space and uses a lot more system resources. I used to be skeptical of the Telenav/Sprint nav, thinking it overpriced junk. Since it's been included with my plan, my opinion of it has changed dramatically. The traffic function is a killer feature and because routing is done remotely, the app uses very little ram. To date, it's never crashed or quit on its own, not something I can say about TomTom, iGO or iGuidance. Because you never purchase maps or poi's, they're not aging on your phone and are more likely to be up to date. There are downsides. If you have prolonged data signal loss (you don't need 3g!) you will loose map detail and re routing, though your current route will remain so you should get where you're going to . I've never had this happen in real world use. It also lacks street first search, requiring you to know the town you're traveling to. The voice entry which is done via a phone call is slow but accurate via the handset and bt but not so much via speakerphone. The online component of the program is a bit lacking. I can run iGO or TomTom fine on my $99 hacked Pharos AIO with a big screen and loud audio, but find myself using Telenav on my Mogul because of the traffic and superior poi data. In the near future, the choice between stand alone software and supscription based will be moot as the stand alone software is being rapidly phased out due to a shrinking market. Phone subscription based (especially when the iPhone gets true nav) and AIO's are the present and the future until they figure out how to implant the gps in out brains.
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I have and it's too ram intensive to work well on this phone. It's all but impossible to get text to speech working at all. I've also used TomTom off and on for 5-6 years on various devices. I always had a problem with TomTom's lack of street first search, but it's been a while since I last used it so that may have been fixed. My preference for PDA based nav has been iGuidance, mainly because of its text to speech and simple interface. TomTom and iGO have slick interfaces that also slow them down and especially on this ram starved phone, can lead to instability. Fancy graphics are all fine and good, but you're supposed to keep your eyes on the road. TomTom up until recently has suffered from really old incomplete maps, though that's been rectified as of late. One problem and possible added expense with stand alone nav software is that the maps and poi's age as you own it. If you want to keep up to date, you'll have to pony up for regular updates (never free) or regularly replace the program. That subscription price may not be as expensive as you thought. Another issue is that stand alone nav software takes up significant storage space and uses a lot more system resources. I used to be skeptical of the Telenav/Sprint nav, thinking it overpriced junk. Since it's been included with my plan, my opinion of it has changed dramatically. The traffic function is a killer feature and because routing is done remotely, the app uses very little ram. To date, it's never crashed or quit on its own, not something I can say about TomTom, iGO or iGuidance. Because you never purchase maps or poi's, they're not aging on your phone and are more likely to be up to date. There are downsides. If you have prolonged data signal loss (you don't need 3g!) you will loose map detail and re routing, though your current route will remain so you should get where you're going to . I've never had this happen in real world use. It also lacks street first search, requiring you to know the town you're traveling to. The voice entry which is done via a phone call is slow but accurate via the handset and bt but not so much via speakerphone. The online component of the program is a bit lacking. I can run iGO or TomTom fine on my $99 hacked Pharos AIO with a big screen and loud audio, but find myself using Telenav on my Mogul because of the traffic and superior poi data. In the near future, the choice between stand alone software and supscription based will be moot as the stand alone software is being rapidly phased out due to a shrinking market. Phone subscription based (especially when the iPhone gets true nav) and AIO's are the present and the future until they figure out how to implant the gps in out brains.
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Well thats ok info. but IMO out of date in a major way!! TomTom 6 only been out less
than 2 years, (well just about 2 years now..)
you most have used some old version of TomTom .. I have been using TomTom
for sometime now and it never crashed on me, plus it do NOT take up much memory,
its loads very fast and text to speech talk voice is very clear, the on screen street
finder is VERY sweet and fast .. all you need to know is the area and you'll find any address ..
again base on your statement you most have used a very old version of TomTom ..
cause none of that is true for TomTom 6 or 7 ..
However you are correct on the maps, I got my TomTom 6 and it came with (late 11/2007 maps),
the new 2008/09 maps you have to buy, New 2009 US/CA maps cost $69 at bestbuy .. (or FREE using LimeWire lol)
Also mircoSD card is very cheap $4 for 2GB cards and $7 for 4GB cards
so you can't even say thats an issue ..
Plus any nav. software that download maps on the go (e.g. MS live, Google maps etc..),
when driving there is a major street update delay and it gets worst if your data service speed is slow,
TomTom 6 or newer don't have any of that issue .. granted I don't look at my phone screen
"much" when I am driving .. but I do quickly look at it when I am getting closer to a turn ..
or in areas that have a few turns at the same spot .. 95% of the time I just listen to TomTom
cool voice direction via my wireless bluetooth headset .. but still always good to have realtime update on screen!!
So yeah!!
* Memory is not an issue with TomTom 6 and my vx6800 titan PDA.
* TomTom 6 never!! Crashed or close when I am using it!! Hours or driving!!
* real time update on screen
* TomTom 6 menu is very very EASY to use, to setup and find new destination!
* TomTom traffic re-route is very cool, even when you miss a tune, re-route is done,
Very fast ..
As I said TomTom hands down is the BEST!!! And so what if I have to drop $69
Ever few years for new maps.. hell I still have the option to download maps using
LimeWire for FREE
BTW to do the math .. when I used to pay for Verizon Nav service $9.99 + tax .. about $135 per-year with tax
even if I have to buy new maps each year from TomTom it would still cost me a lot less!!
and having the options to download FREE maps is also nice ...
Also I have use Nav .. not only when driving .. I have use it many times when walking looking
for an address or POI .. just hanging out with friends etc.. in the city etc..
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BTW to do the math .. when I used to pay for Verizon Nav service $9.99 + tax .. about $135 per-year with tax
even if I have to buy new maps each year from TomTom it would still cost me a lot less!!
and having the options to download FREE maps is also nice ...
Also I have use Nav .. not only when driving .. I have use it many times when walking looking
for an address or POI .. just hanging out with friends etc.. in the city etc..
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I'm glad you like TT so much, enjoy it. I agree that $10/mo is too much, $5-6$ is a better price point. The ONLY reason I tried Telenav is because it was included in my plan. As for the stability statement, it comes down to how you use your phone. I tend to have a media player in the background , usually mortplayer . TomTom + Mort+ incoming phone call = locked up phone (this was using a DCD 2 series ROM). Even without the crash, the media player will be forcefully quit by winmo eventually. iGO will not coexist with any other program running and may be "quit" for lack of mem anyway.
Please, don't include software theft as any part of your cost equation! For the legitimate buyer, the price difference between buying a legal copy of the software and legally keeping it up to date is not tremendously cheaper than the $10/mo subscription price. Throw in traffic and automatically kept up to date map and poi's and the choice between the two becomes even less clear. Though I have tied turn by turn software for pedestrian uses, I prefer MS live and Google maps for that purpose. The new MS live with follow me turned on is particularly good!
Just looked at your first post, the traffic re rout on TOMTom, iGuidance or iGO is not the same as the real time traffic alerts on Telenav (or high end AIO's with traffic subscriptions).
Since we're doing multiple non reply posts here, I'll add-
I did some additional research, I have used the "latest" TT software(v6) which is almost 3 years old now (I was also wrong about my past nav experience which is more like 7-8 years, getting old is a *****). When TT6 and iG4 came out I made a choice to go with iG because it had text to speech. Though TT have updated the maps which was necessary, there are no new features and v6 is the end of the line for their stand alone software offerings.
TT6 lacks text to speech, acceptable in 2006 but not in 2009, having Ozzy curse out turn by turn directions only goes so far. Even my cheap $99 (now $79) Pharos AIO has text to speech. Saying TT6 is the "best" is like saying a car audio system lacking a ipod/mp3 player interface is the best. To get traffic info (not simple traffic re routing!) in a TT device, you need to pay for plus services and connect via bt with your cell phone. They do a good (sneaky) job of keeping the plus service cost from perspective buyers by requiring a service number to view the price. If you don't already own a TT device, I guess they feel you have no right to know. The best I can find is that traffic will cost ~$60/yr additional on a TT AIO running v6 or newer, but isn't offered at all on phones running v6(?). What I don't like about TT's method is if you don't have your phone with you, no traffic. After years of using separate pda and gps recievers, I much prefer a 1 device solution. Other mfg have built in or cable mounted recievers to get traffic info.
If I were BUYING a new AOI I would consider TT with newer software, if I had to have standalone software on my phone I'd go with iG 2009 and live with its restrictive DRM (locked to sd card) for newer maps or the older iG4. iGO isn't really an option as it isn't legitimately offered in the US and doesn't function well with this phone. Personally, I think that the majority still using stand alone nav on a WM phone either bought it years ago or frequent bittorent (or limewire, usenet, etc). With basic AIO's (PNA's) going for less than $100, there's little reason to use a small screen low volume phone.
OTH, if you want traffic avoidance and have a Telenav equiped phone, it might actually be a cheap alternative considering that traffic costs $5/mo or more on other devices. I still think lowering the price $2- $3 would get a lot more subscribers than the current $10 price.
Demo works better than the read nav!!!
http://www.diginetlink.com/iGuidance_mapping_software_p/igv4.htm
The GS2 is an amazing piece of technology so I'm wondering if we can share amounst the forum how the many features of our smartphone have been brilliant in real life situations.
My example;
Recently whilst on a trip to Valencia from the UK the "european maps" on my satnav couldnt find my hotel and I ended up in an orange grove about 10miles from my hotel. I turned on the GS2 (I had a 30Mb a day roaming data bundle on Orange) and searched hotels address which it quickly found, I then opened the address in Google Maps and then using the navigation facility got the directions, the "sat nav function gave us accurate directions right to the hotel.....Brilliant.
For me, it's the fact that the hardware isn't being used to it's potential..clearly, it's very powerful. You get that feeling when using it. It wants to do more. I use everything the device has to offer, and i very rarely encounter any problems..i particularly enjoy the camera. It's fantastic, imo. With hdr+ it becomes incredible.
I can't wait to see the gs2 fully utilised...if it happens lol.
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The GS2 is an amazing piece of technology so I'm wondering if we can share amounst the forum how the many features of our smartphone have been brilliant in real life situations.
My example;
Recently whilst on a trip to Valencia from the UK the "european maps" on my satnav couldnt find my hotel and I ended up in an orange grove about 10miles from my hotel. I turned on the GS2 (I had a 30Mb a day roaming data bundle on Orange) and searched hotels address which it quickly found, I then opened the address in Google Maps and then using the navigation facility got the directions, the "sat nav function gave us accurate directions right to the hotel.....Brilliant.
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I don't see how this experience is unique to the SGSII, pretty much any smartphone nowadays can do what you just did
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By being reliable. Coming from an N900 there were lots of times where I'd go to use a function and something wouldn't work (BT audio for example). The SGS2 is brilliant with its reliability - at least compared to an N900!
Loving it so far (nearing 5 months with it).
I can't really think of anything that about the SGS2 that has made me go WOW to be honest, starting to think I have a dud as I don't really believe the hype, screens bright ok but it'll kill your battery, camera well its average at best, certainly no better than any other modern smart phone camera i've used.
Coming from a SE X10i. This phone just basically feels10 times better. Better screen, Camera, video, etc.
Fast,reliable,has this phone,never gets boring. Need I say more!?
G Sensor defect. After 1 month of using it....really highend
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Loads a 100mb PDF instantly,full sized cbr comic files instantly, extremely fast loading practically anything, GPS fixes fast best camera I have used on a mobile, and to top it all off, just been playing emmisary of war, runs fast and looks amazing on the greatest brightest screen on the market
lawl coming from a blackberry this phone is more than brilliant. I also like the reliability you're talking about. I think that the screen at it's lowest contrast is awesome and i won't kill your battery.
Anyone moved from Android to a Radar? Thoughts? I'm on a GS2 right now and considering a switch.
I moved over from a Evo 4G to the Radar.
For me having to adjust to a smaller screen was a little hard.
The performance is great. I love the UI.
The app's in the marketplace can be a little limited, but I have found some great apps that are better than their counterparts on Android.
I will say that as of now, this platform is not from everybody, but with some of the new devices comming around, and the next few updates, the platform should grow.
I personally love the who WP7 experience. Out of all three of the major OS's, I love this one the most.
I had a Droid Incredible for 2 years, then the HTC Sensation on T-Mobile. This fall I tried an HTC HD7 when I knew I could put Mango on it, and I really liked WM7. I left the HD7 for a Samsung Galaxy 2 because I wanted the 42 mbps radio.
The Galaxy is a fantastic phone, but as soon as I got it I realized that I'd been spoiled by WM7 and no longer had the patience to deal with Android. Android is great if you like to fiddle with your phone and create a very customized experience. But I just couldn't face taking a day to download apps and configure the phone to put my tasks, calendar, podcasts, and contacts front and center.
I dumped the Samsung on eBay and got a Radar, which I LOVE. The advantage of WM7 is that you turn it on, and it just works. I put in my Google and Windows Live accounts and in five minutes everything is right there.
The disadvantage on WM7 is that it works on a different organizing principle than Android or IOS. In addition, the design approach emphasizes a clean simple interface - which also means that some capabilities are hidden and you have to know how to find them. So, there is a learning curve.
The Radar is not for everyone, but for me it's ideal. I like the small size, the clean interface, the internet sharing, and Zune music. The fact that it is not another big black slab is also appealing.
The only negative for me is the 8gb of memory means I have to be selective as to loading music and movies on the phone. Other than that, i think I'll have the Radar for quite a while. Or until I can get my hands on a Nokia Lumia 900.
Im thinking of doing this too. I have never gotten normal battery life on my GS2 no matter what I do. Also like how it seems WP7 works right out of the box. Now just to try and get someone to buy this GS2....
Anyone else with input?
Switched from Android to WP7
I recently switched from the Galaxy S Vibrant to the HTC Radar. The OS's are pretty different, but I'm enjoying WP7. The lack of options in WP7 has saved me lots of time playing with themes, launchers and the sort. The UI is simple, straight forward and doesn't take much to figure out. The battery life is amazing for a smart phone. Turning on the Battery Saver option helps squeeze every last drop of juice from the battery. I haven't looked into how the location service works, but it works ok, not as accurate as a GPS in my opinion. The screen is responsive, clear and made with Gorilla glass. The on screen keyboard is as easy to use as any other on screen keyboard. The predictive text is pretty accurate. The only complaint I have is with syncing. The hotmail account (ya, just like Android and Gmail) doesn't quite sync as fast as Gmail does on Android. The official Facebook and Twitter app are lacking in the syncing area as well. I haven't looked into any unofficial apps yet. Speaking of apps, the app store is a little lacking, but I don't use to many apps. Overall, I like the phone and I'm pleased with WP7 experience. The whole thing is simple and straight forward.
Here's the link to try out the UI in your browser.
http://m.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/demo/index.html
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Anyone moved from Android to a Radar? Thoughts? I'm on a GS2 right now and considering a switch.
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I am. I switched from Galaxy S2 to Rader but have trouble now
Check this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1444832
Thanks for the opinions. I'm really on the fence! I feel like it would be wrong to move without having used ics
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Add me to the migrants - I've just sold my GS2 and purchased a Radar, just got to wait for it to be delivered now. I had a HD7 at the beginning but the battery was crap on it and Mango wasn't even mentioned so I got rid of it but now it looks like the OS is really moving now.
I just moved from a G2 to the Radar and I'm liking it. Only things I'm having trouble with it getting a good GoogleTalk app to IM with all my friends and family. I wish it was integrated much like how Facebook Messenger is. Also being able to use my Google Voice account to make outgoing calls is a bit difficult.
My biggest complaint about the phone is the lack of memory for storage. I download a lot of podcasts and music (through Spotify) to listen to and its already full with just my podcasts. No place to fit the cached music. If i had unlimited data it would be nice but I don't. I usually meet my 5gb quota in a month without streaming.
I think the storage can be a problem but it is obviously dependent on how you use your phone. I mean 16GB is a good minimum to have but I can make do with the 8GB. I can see why there isn't a microSD slot - it keeps the phone simple just having one type of storage. I reckon as long as the cloud continues to expand local storage will diminish.
I thought about this too because I have 7+ gb of pictures BUT, can't you just throw them on Skydrive for when you need them? More and more I think I may jump! I do feel like, on paper, it won't be powerful enough but do mos people really need the power of dual core, etc.
Yeah you can! That's another great thing you get with WP7 - 25GB of free storage! The crucial thing is that WP7 is closed-source, native and optimized for the strict hardware requirements that Microsoft have laid down. It's similar to Apple's approach with their hardware. Like I said the only reason I ditched the HD7 was because of its woeful battery life and not knowing that Mango would come. This phone seems to get it right from what I've read and see and as far WP7 and its associated devices well they are just going to go from strength to strength. I can't wait for it to arrive!
What is the integration with Skydrive like though? Am I just browsing a cloud file directory or is there any sort of gallery integration? Also, if all pics are 2-3mb+, it could be annoying when you are trying to find a picture. Is there thumbnailing, previewing, etc?
You get excellent integration, I've just uploaded some photos and it works really well! Yep you get all that
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I just moved from a G2 to the Radar and I'm liking it. Only things I'm having trouble with it getting a good GoogleTalk app to IM with all my friends and family. I wish it was integrated much like how Facebook Messenger is. Also being able to use my Google Voice account to make outgoing calls is a bit difficult.
My biggest complaint about the phone is the lack of memory for storage. I download a lot of podcasts and music (through Spotify) to listen to and its already full with just my podcasts. No place to fit the cached music. If i had unlimited data it would be nice but I don't. I usually meet my 5gb quota in a month without streaming.
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Calling with the GoVoice app isn't too difficult.
I recently switched, but kept my old phone just in case.
I have a Samsung Vibrant [MIUI], Mytouch 4G [MIUI]
and I play with my girls GS2.
The smaller screen is taking me a bit to get used to.
The UI is AWESOME, responsive, quick, etc.
No apps to have quick on-tap shortcuts to disable/enable 3G/4G, brightness... but that's ok.
Not many apps, but a few that are awesome.
Cool if you have an Xbox and/or Windows PC.
It's not for everyone... but I feel like I won't get bored with it anytime soon.
I also think it's better than iOS.
I "switched" a week ago from the GS2 to the Radar. I'm not a heavy user but I like to be connected and synced up with my emails and social networks all the time.
The App Ecosystem on WP sucks and anyone coming from iOS or Android or even BB would agree. They're either lying or don't use apps at all if they disagree.
The smaller screen size compared to the 4.5" is certainly noticeable but not a deal breaker.
The camera functionality on the Radar and is better, and I think the lens is better too. But the front facing camera is only VGA vs. the GSII 2mp.
Battery life is much better on WP and WP works just as smooth.
I enjoy the fact that WP is less buggy than android, but there's a lot of limitations to how to customize the UI and how multi-tasking works (or doesn't work). There's no flash support and I cannot even visit sites that allow me to find out when the next Muni or Bart train will show up, and of course there's no app for that in WP.
The Radar has NO COMPASS so you can't use a lot of apps that utilize a compass and navigation seems to take a bit longer to figure out which direction you're facing (which makes sense).
Anyways, it's like the best alternative to the iPhone for first time smartphone users and for people who aren't app crazy. It's stable and is quite capable. What a change from Windows Mobile.
So as of late, I have been seriously considering switching to a 920 after using android for awhile, and I was wondering how some of you guys feel about the 920, specifically if you have come from Android. Main thing really holding me back is the new hardware put out like the Xperia Z, HTC One, or the S4. Your thoughts?
I had been using android non stop since like 2010 and honestly i got a bit bored of it (and a was quite a flashaholic). WP8 is amazingly fluid and i absolutely love the build quality of the 920. The only real downside is lack of apps. I currently switch between my 920 and my Nexus 4 because i can't decide which to sell.
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Coming from a EVO 4g - I don't miss Android, but I did miss Google Maps at first. I have gotten used to Nokia Maps and Drive though and now like them quite a bit. Overall I like Windows Phone better. I have all the apps I need, so the smaller number of apps doesn't bother me. I think the quality of apps is much better on windows. I have not seen a better phone than the 920. The screen is by far the best I have ever used. The camera and video is amazing. I have not seen all the phones you mentioned though.
I bought a Galaxy S2 outright about a year and a half ago. Came from Apple and android was just the best thing that happened to me. So sick of Apple's ball and chain. Anyway, my contract with Telstra recently allowed me to get a new phone. I was going to go with the Galaxy Note II, but saw some things about the 920 that caught my eye. I liked the idea behind wp7 but thought the home screen didnt fit quite enough information on it. When I saw what WP8 looked like plus the features of the 920, I thought I should give it a go. Definitely the best decision I could have made. I dont know what it was about android but there was something that was just starting to bug me and was becoming stale. WP8 and Lumia 920 are just beautiful to use. Camera is ok (not groundbreaking, or maybe Im biased as I own a 'Real' camera) But taking videos with the stabilization is great. plus the video quality in general is quite good. Microphones are a notch above the rest too. Screen is brilliant, build is great (although I am construction worker so I have it locked away in an otterbox regardless). Sure there's not the app choice, but they are certainly coming, and all the apps that the average person -needs- are there. As a Smart Phone, it is in my opinion the best.
I went from Android to WP7.... because i was not satisfied with the stability of the OS... There were really a lot apps Missing back then.... But i really like how fluid an reliable WP was... The phone functions are most important to me...
Recently i bought a new Android Phone just to see how much has changed since than and if I'm missing out something with my Lumia 920...
Im using both now.. but I will stay with Windows Phone.. I get to used to it..
I just works.. no need for custom ROMS and tweaking around... There are
some apps missing but most of the popular one are available or there are solid alternatives...
Check if the app that you really like and use are on Windows Phone..
I don't mean games... the most are boring after 4-5 days anyway..
If not .. and you really need them stay with android.. else give WP8 a try... you won't regret it... The Lumia 920 is really the best phone i ever had!
One more thing i love about the 920 is the choice of colors you get. Most android phones only have one or two color choices (but most all are still dull)
With the 920, you get to choose between eye popping red or yellow, a glossy elegant white, and the sophisticated matte cyan and black. I had the white but got switched to the red and I love it
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The short answer is come on over! The long answer:
The hardware is impressive, especially the Lumia 920 right now. If you are not completely on the google bandwagon then jump in, the waters fine.
As for pc connectivity, it can't be beat. Windows 8 has a tile dedicated to it, music and photos "just sync". iJoke about iTunes because it's laughable by comparison, and import your library for free. Then there's Nokia Music, Microsoft Xbox music, Spotify, and get free Pandora Premium for 2013 http://bit.ly/17Oac2m
Use your phone as a touch mouse for your netbook/Surface with "mouse without borders". Navigate your XBOX with smartglass, play games on xbox/8pc/phone/tablet that is purchased once on the Store.
Twitter, facebook, are fully integrated into the People app, share a photo with three clicks from taking the picture to all of your networks (again, except Google). Linked in is almost fully integrated, you have to download the app but it plugs itself in.
Hotmail, Yahoo, Gmail, Aol, messenger, fully integrated into the platform, get all of your email in one place, see all the details from all your contacts in one place. Calendars too (except Google! Microsoft will update that by July to connect after Google cut them off (see them as a threat methinks)) Skype works flawlessly and also integrates once you download the app.
GoogleTalk = IM+Pro (again, Google v. Microsoft) use a 3rd party app if you really want to.
Maps are solid, provide great navigation information, 8 out of 10 on the redirect if you go off course and no live traffic (yet). I only say this because google maps is faster at turn redirection if I miss a light, but that will improve and I don't use it all the time.
No notification drawer, but you get live tiles which do the same / similar job! No email notification? Not true! The live tiles just flipped, oh look! Five new emails from all my inboxes. Same for text messages, phone calls, etc.
Want updates on specific folks? no problem, put their live tile on your screen, see facebook posts, tweets, phone calls, photos, text messages, skype interaction and more on the tile. Not doing it for you? Click the tile and dive into every interaction you have with the person, all the history is there.
Apps Apps Apps... not all of them, and many by fans of first party developers. But get your head out of your phone. What is the more important app, or set of apps you need? check www.windowsphone.com and decide what you can live without before you make the switch. Is Instagram worth staying on Andy? Will it help you to know that Nokia confirmed that it is coming to WP8 this year? Can you do without for a short while? I don't use it, but I say yes you can!
My example is I like to use Springpad, no WP8 app. But look, Evernote is here! and on Windows 8, and on my Surface Pro. So I switch. Same with Dashlane to Lastpass.
Tethering: Yup
Headset: Holy cow this thing is quick to connect to all of my devices
Sound Quality: How's HTC Beats audio (HTC8X) or Dolby Digital sound (Lumia 920) for great audio?
NFC?: Check, and implemented, and working
Wireless charging: got it, works, nuff said
Camera: 920 has the best low light camera. (that last item there, was a period.)
Bluetooth: fantastic.
Processor: ZOOM (really, nuff said)
Screen (if you have 20-20 vision, you'll be fine) I have better than that and screen looks fine to me.
Battery life: holy cow. four days light use. 12 hours (easily) heavy use). My galaxy note dies repeatedly after about 8 hours.
Also, if you have a bluetooth headset on, it will whisper your incoming texts and allow you to listen, reply, and call hands free. Everyone will ask you who you are talking to. Bonus!
Bing vs Google. Who cares? I'm on a Microsoft kick, I'm going to run with it until Google gets their heads out and starts playing nice. Bing does a good job at finding the same answers that Google does, in a much more eye candy fashion.
What's to gripe about?
For me, Path (coming), Mint (no roadmap), Ally bank (coming), Manilla (unknown), YNAB,(no), Square (no), Paypal (check),... again, critical? nope. Want? yep. Surface pro and tethering to the rescue, problems solved.
Let us know what you decide (and if you took time to read all this.. I'm winded...)
afght19 said:
Coming from a EVO 4g - I don't miss Android, but I did miss Google Maps at first. I have gotten used to Nokia Maps and Drive though and now like them quite a bit. Overall I like Windows Phone better. I have all the apps I need, so the smaller number of apps doesn't bother me. I think the quality of apps is much better on windows. I have not seen a better phone than the 920. The screen is by far the best I have ever used. The camera and video is amazing. I have not seen all the phones you mentioned though.
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gMaps Pro is good replacement for Google maps but not free (also free version available)
btw.
for use Bing maps on Lumia just install this
http://www.windowsphone.com/s?appid=9e8f8fc5-da17-4b7f-80f3-2dc334de8dac
Greetings, all. Despite all the hype around the Apple Watch and Android Wear, I decided to get a Gear S. It is being delivered today. I have an LG G Watch, but I'm not terribly fond of it and I think the Apple Watch is an overpriced toy.
The Gear S seemed a better fit for me. I'm a fan of big watches and it seems much more functional than Android Wear.
That said, I have a few reservations and I'm hoping the community can put my mind at ease. I don't have it in my hand yet, so I can't look at the app store, so forgive me:
With the screen always on, how long will the battery last?- This is how I use my smartwatches. If I can't glance at the screen to see the time without jerking my wrist around, it's no good to me. I also ride a Harley and can't really afford to be required to make a wrist gesture to see the time.
Is there any kind of Shazam or Soundhound app? I know this seems frivalous, but I saw they had Shazam for the apple watch and it occurred to me how cool that would be.
Which apps do you use the most? Any good ones I should look for immediately?
Do you think it has any kind of future? It seems like it has already been forgotten. The Tizen store is stagnant and Apple and Android Wear seem to be stealing all the spotlight. Am I buying a product that is already obsolete?
Thanks. Just trying to convince myself that I made the right choice. I can return it, of course, but it seems like the best option for me right now.
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Greetings, all. Despite all the hype around the Apple Watch and Android Wear, I decided to get a Gear S. It is being delivered today. I have an LG G Watch, but I'm not terribly fond of it and I think the Apple Watch is an overpriced toy.
The Gear S seemed a better fit for me. I'm a fan of big watches and it seems much more functional than Android Wear.
That said, I have a few reservations and I'm hoping the community can put my mind at ease. I don't have it in my hand yet, so I can't look at the app store, so forgive me:
With the screen always on, how long will the battery last?- This is how I use my smartwatches. If I can't glance at the screen to see the time without jerking my wrist around, it's no good to me. I also ride a Harley and can't really afford to be required to make a wrist gesture to see the time.
Is there any kind of Shazam or Soundhound app? I know this seems frivalous, but I saw they had Shazam for the apple watch and it occurred to me how cool that would be.
Which apps do you use the most? Any good ones I should look for immediately?
Do you think it has any kind of future? It seems like it has already been forgotten. The Tizen store is stagnant and Apple and Android Wear seem to be stealing all the spotlight. Am I buying a product that is already obsolete?
Thanks. Just trying to convince myself that I made the right choice. I can return it, of course, but it seems like the best option for me right now.
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Totally agree about Apple watch! But regardless of OEM, I prefer the features of the standalone form factor vs the companion. Having its OWN data connection is invaluable at times. The remote feature is amazing and works very well for a first crack at this feature.
1. The wrist/motion sensor works pretty well on the S. Seems to work 9 outa 10 times you turn to look at time. Having the full screen on will cut usage time in half.
2. I personally have not heard or seen an app like SoundHound for Tizen... yet
3. This is a question that varies widely. Having Opera is a must and I've read a lot about people using Milk, Nike and S-health. I like Bullet News and Engadget's apps as well. S-voice makes sending brief texts and emails a breeze. However, what we really could use is an email client app that doesn't require the phone's connection to send/rcv email.
4. The Tizen store IS growing at a very slow pace, I agree. Not sure what is going to happen in the standalone vs companion war in general. But I will say this...before I bought the S, I had the Omate TrueSmart which took my personal phone out of my already bulging pockets and put it on my wrist. This, in itself, was a great technological step. And even though the TS was riddled with problems, I loved it. Now, with the remote connection always on, my personal phone stays at home connected to the Wi-Fi which feeds the incoming notifs to my wrist.
In conclusion, my personal thoughts on the future of wearables is completely dependent on the consumer market and OEM innovation. I think most future watches will all have the option to be standalone. Battery life will continue to be a big hitch and input methods. In addition, Samsung needs to stop trying to create it's own ecosystem and work with what is already here and accepted, now.
Go get your Gear S... You'll love it!!!
Thanks man. I'll find out soon, if UPS ever gets here.
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Just found a hopeful answer to #2; Gearam Music ID I just downloaded but wife asleep so cannot test yet. Says it does what Shazam does. Also..
There are some good ones out there that you can get:
Xenozu Player for Youtube, works well. click on pic to play, and text for info
GearTweet for Twitter, much improved lately
GearGram for Instagram and plays video as well as shows pics
Basic Video Player, load videos to your Gear through PC to play on app
Wearable Widgets, I can use it to control my lights at home that on on my WeMo switches, using WeMo widgets; I can see my outside surveillance cameras using the IP Cam Viewer Basic widget
IPCameraViewer, I can see my indoor home surveillance camera feed through Gear S app
OperaMini for web browsing
Milk music for streaming to my bluetooth headset at the gym, without having to carry my phone.
S Health, I have used very well to track and motivate myself to move and exercise more. I lost 85 lbs. last year and it gets some credit. Program finally much better than it was.
I too hope they push for more, but in the end it will be up the the other companies and developers and they will probably go to Apple due to shear volume of sales alone.
Good luck.
Cheers,
highlordkram said:
Just found a hopeful answer to #2; Gearam Music ID I just downloaded but wife asleep so cannot test yet. Says it does what Shazam does. Also..
There are some good ones out there that you can get:
Xenozu Player for Youtube, works well. click on pic to play, and text for info
GearTweet for Twitter, much improved lately
GearGram for Instagram and plays video as well as shows pics
Basic Video Player, load videos to your Gear through PC to play on app
Wearable Widgets, I can use it to control my lights at home that on on my WeMo switches, using WeMo widgets; I can see my outside surveillance cameras using the IP Cam Viewer Basic widget
IPCameraViewer, I can see my indoor home surveillance camera feed through Gear S app
OperaMini for web browsing
Milk music for streaming to my bluetooth headset at the gym, without having to carry my phone.
S Health, I have used very well to track and motivate myself to move and exercise more. I lost 85 lbs. last year and it gets some credit. Program finally much better than it was.
I too hope they push for more, but in the end it will be up the the other companies and developers and they will probably go to Apple due to shear volume of sales alone.
Good luck.
Cheers,
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Ah, thank you for that. I will check out Gearam. I wish IPCamviewer worked with dropcams, but I don't think it does.
I can't download Opera Mini, for some reason. It simply doesn't show up for me in the store. I am in the U.S. on AT&T, but I do have the International model of the GS6. Maybe that's why? Either way, it sucks. I was really looking forward to that one.
Edit: Dammit. Gearam doesn't show up for me, either. If it does have to do with my International model of the GS6, I wish there was a way to spoof my ID for the store.
Try Doreso Music Radar. That is a Shazam like app.
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Ah, thank you for that. I will check out Gearam. I wish IPCamviewer worked with dropcams, but I don't think it does.
I can't download Opera Mini, for some reason. It simply doesn't show up for me in the store. I am in the U.S. on AT&T, but I do have the International model of the GS6. Maybe that's why? Either way, it sucks. I was really looking forward to that one.
Edit: Dammit. Gearam doesn't show up for me, either. If it does have to do with my International model of the GS6, I wish there was a way to spoof my ID for the store.
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Really Sorry to hear of issues, as I confirm now that GEARAM Music ID works very well. Just found 5 out of five that I played off my phone.
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Really Sorry to hear of issues, as I confirm now that GEARAM Music ID works very well. Just found 5 out of five that I played off my phone.
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Dammit. I wish I could figure out why apps aren't showing for me.
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1. I don't see any point of using screen always on. It just eats up alot of battery and it's useless. Better choose wake up gesture.
2. Yes it is. The best is Gearam Music ID
3. Some cool apps i use:
XENOZU - you can watch youtube;
Instant Settings - Control your phone wifi , 3g etc.;
Calculator ; GearGram Instagram ; Opera - a must have and My notes
4. Samsung has done a very good job with smartwatches. They are the no 1 vendor. The tizen store it's stronger than Android Wear and Apple in my oppinion , the real problem is the official developers have no interest in developing apps. And individual developers ask for money. Believe me. You made the right choose. I've used the Moto 360, Gear 1,Gear 2,LG G Watch R. I tested the Apple Watch too, it's a bull****. Now i own a Gear S and i think it's the best on the market.
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1. I don't see any point of using screen always on. It just eats up alot of battery and it's useless. Better choose wake up gesture.
2. Yes it is. The best is Gearam Music ID
3. Some cool apps i use:
XENOZU - you can watch youtube;
Instant Settings - Control your phone wifi , 3g etc.;
Calculator ; GearGram Instagram ; Opera - a must have and My notes
4. Samsung has done a very good job with smartwatches. They are the no 1 vendor. The tizen store it's stronger than Android Wear and Apple in my oppinion , the real problem is the official developers have no interest in developing apps. And individual developers ask for money. Believe me. You made the right choose. I've used the Moto 360, Gear 1,Gear 2,LG G Watch R. I tested the Apple Watch too, it's a bull****. Now i own a Gear S and i think it's the best on the market.
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I don't see the point in NOT using always on mode. It is a watch, after all. Pretty useless if you can't see the time.
Wanted to give my feedback for your first and fourth question.
Since I had a Pebble before the Gear S, a screen that is always on is very useful. After all, the primary function of a watch is to give you time. Having the screen always on hasn't really impacted my battery life. On average, My Gear S loses about 3.1% - 3.5% battery life every hour with my screen always on. Since my screen is always on, I leave all motion gestures off. With the screen always on, I can easily get a full day of use. Throughout the day, I usually get 3-4 email notifications per hour, 2 text messages per hour, reminders from S-health to take a walk, approximately 2-4 calls, and random social media notifications. On days when I'm going out for a run, my batter life drops quick mainly because of S-health and the heart rate monitor. Even if I'm going for a run, getting a full day of use with the screen on is an easy task.
I'm sure that the Gear S has a future. There are other smart watch platforms such as Pebble, Android Wear, and Apple Watch, but these are just companion devices. To me, the other platforms are very good at telling you that you need to look at your phone. I like to think of other smart watches as handcuffing you to your phone. You really can't do much with the other smart watches without a phone. Tizen/Gear S really shines with stand alone features. The problem is with getting developers for Tizen. I think most developers don't consider developing for Tizen because the Android and Apple names are so well known. I'm sure if we ask the average person if they know what Tizen is, their response would be "What?"