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Hi, I'm in California and I have an Motorola Atrix with AT&T and I just unlocked my phone because I'm about to switch to T-mobile...
However, my friend told me that AT&T and T-Mobile has different 4G networks. He said the AT&T Atrix can not use 3G or 4G speed on a T-Mobile network, It can only go up to Edge speed.... Is that true? Does anyone know about this?
Hope some people can help me here ...
Thank you
tomcklam said:
Hi, I'm in California and I have an Motorola Atrix with AT&T and I just unlocked my phone because I'm about to switch to T-mobile...
However, my friend told me that AT&T and T-Mobile has different 4G networks. He said the AT&T Atrix can not use 3G or 4G speed on a T-Mobile network, It can only go up to Edge speed.... Is that true? Does anyone know about this?
Hope some people can help me here ...
Thank you
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From everything I have read that is correct, but also know that it won't be much longer till you are back as an AT&T customer since they are acquiring T-Mobile.
tomcklam said:
Hi, I'm in California and I have an Motorola Atrix with AT&T and I just unlocked my phone because I'm about to switch to T-mobile...
However, my friend told me that AT&T and T-Mobile has different 4G networks. He said the AT&T Atrix can not use 3G or 4G speed on a T-Mobile network, It can only go up to Edge speed.... Is that true? Does anyone know about this?
Hope some people can help me here ...
Thank you
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Its true. While both AT&T and T-Mobile use HSPA+ for their "4G" speeds, they run on different bands. If you want 3G/4G, use a T-Mobile phone. Otherwise, enjoy EDGE. Opera Mini with images set to low will be a big help.
T-Mobile leases cellular space from AT&T which is why unlocked AT&T phones can use T-Mobile service. Not sure if it is the phone's software issue that is causing the 4G/3Gnot working. It's possible that T-mobile implemented their so called 4G first but it's still AT&T equipment.....I work for AT&T. Also 4G, is just higher speed 3G, 4G LTE won't be rolling out until next year.
Thank you for the quick reply... I need to get a T-Mobile phone then.
ernestdefoe said:
From everything I have read that is correct, but also know that it won't be much longer till you are back as an AT&T customer since they are acquiring T-Mobile.
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Yep, but sucks that they still charge minutes when I call a T-Mobile number. I'm switching it for my girlfriend, so I can get Unlimited mobile to mobile minutes... I might get a sensation when I switch to T-Mobile
Phoneguy589 said:
T-Mobile leases cellular space from AT&T which is why unlocked AT&T phones can use T-Mobile service. Not sure if it is the phone's software issue that is causing the 4G/3Gnot working. It's possible that T-mobile implemented their so called 4G first but it's still AT&T equipment.....I work for AT&T. Also 4G, is just higher speed 3G, 4G LTE won't be rolling out until next year.
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Good job on the misinformation front.
And also not being helpful, I'm going to assume your in sales and don't actually know anything.
Now on to the OP's question.
T-Mobile uses the same type of technology as AT&T however they operate on different bands. As such most devices that are sold on AT&T will be able work on T-Mobile for phone and edge but don't get 3g or hspa+ due to the radio in the device only supporting some of the bands. Which is why as a general rule AT&T phones such as the iphone, will work on T-Mobile if unlocked but can't use 3g because it doesn't have the ability to operate in the correct MHZ range. Its the same going from T-Mobile to AT&T. My HD2 was awesome, other then the slow data. *Not that my atrix or inspire are much better.
There are exceptions to the rule though. You'll have to check to see which bands the Atrix is capable of using. I know some of the Samsung devices had all the GSM bands so they worked fine on all networks.
the answer is NO the atrix will not work on tmobile USA 3G or 4G network. there, done!
tomcklam said:
Thank you for the quick reply... I need to get a T-Mobile phone then.
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Problem is that if/when the AT&T/T-mobile merger goes through, AT&T will likely flip Tmobile's 3g towers to 4g. All tmobile 3G phones...sorry no more 3g unless you buy a new phone. yay....
linky
AT&T said Monday that it planned to convert T-Mobile's 3G towers to 4G service and move T-Mobile 3G subscribers to AT&T 3G phones.
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gnahc79 said:
Problem is that if/when the AT&T/T-mobile merger goes through, AT&T will likely flip Tmobile's 3g towers to 4g. All tmobile 3G phones...sorry no more 3g unless you buy a new phone. yay....
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They won't just flip a switch and everyone has to buy new phones. They will be phased out as people finish contracts and begin new ones. If they don't, they'll be buying T-Mobile customers all new phones or paying fatcat lawyers to defend them from all the lawsuits.
CaelanT said:
They won't just flip a switch and everyone has to buy new phones. They will be phased out as people finish contracts and begin new ones. If they don't, they'll be buying T-Mobile customers all new phones or paying fatcat lawyers to defend them from all the lawsuits.
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Agreed, sorry I used the term 'flip', never meant to say it would happen instantly . The article I linked stated the switch would take several years. That's not written in stone though, AT&T could move up the timeline if they are losing too many customers to Verizon and Sprint.
This is only an issue if you plan on keeping your tmobile 3g phone for YEARS, which is not likely for anyone that frequents xda .
I want the 64gb version, will AT&T's HTC One work on T-Mobile's HSPA+ Network??? I get sick speeds on T-Mobile's HSPA+ Network, over 20mb down and 5mb up. After 6 oclock it gets faster. These are not just spiked speeds these are every day speeds all day. I hoping to hell that HTC somehow put T-Mobile's HSPA+ Network in AT&T's as well. Has anyone tried this yet.
Thanks, Vinny
I was told it won't but don't quote me on it I'm not 100 percent sure.
I too would like the answer to this.
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Hmm... Good question. I bought both versions (temporarily) to test the two networks (att has tmo beat here in Austin). I'm gonna test switching the sims before i return the tmo one in a couple of days. I'll post the results then, if nobody beats me to it.
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timbercoyote said:
Hmm... Good question. I bought both versions (temporarily) to test the two networks (att has tmo beat here in Austin). I'm gonna test switching the sims before i return the tmo one in a couple of days. I'll post the results then, if nobody beats me to it.
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Please post your results, only issue the phone might have to be unlocked to work on the others Network, I think. Would love to get my hands on the 64gb version, pissed off T-Mobile just doesn't have it. May have to bite the bullet and buy the 32gb version but still hoping that AT&T's 64gb version is a go on T-Mobile's HSPA+ Network, I know the LTE will work OK it is just the HSPA+ Network that is in question.
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I just talked to the HTC tech support dept. today and they mentioned that although on their site, all the speeds are listed for the 64Gb developer edition, the phone will only work on 2G on T-Mobile's network! Yes, that was 2G, not 3G, not UMTS and of course not LTE. I just signed up with AT&T and I get nothing but dropped calls, disconnects, garbled voices, data drops or no data. That happens every day, quite a few times, at different hours of the day. I had wonderful luck with T-Mobile here in Orange County, CA before. I'm selling my HOX+ for an HTC One, but I'll stay with AT&T because of the penalty and the 2-year contract. It's not Europe here... Oh, well.
mobiware said:
I just talked to the HTC tech support dept. today and they mentioned that although on their site, all the speeds are listed for the 64Gb developer edition, the phone will only work on 2G on T-Mobile's network! Yes, that was 2G, not 3G, not UMTS and of course not LTE. I just signed up with AT&T and I get nothing but dropped calls, disconnects, garbled voices, data drops or no data. That happens every day, quite a few times, at different hours of the day. I had wonderful luck with T-Mobile here in Orange County, CA before. I'm selling my HOX+ for an HTC One, but I'll stay with AT&T because of the penalty and the 2-year contract. It's not Europe here... Oh, well.
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Thank You for the information.
Good Luck,
Vinny
vinnyjr said:
Please post your results, only issue the phone might have to be unlocked to work on the others Network, I think. Would love to get my hands on the 64gb version, pissed off T-Mobile just doesn't have it. May have to bite the bullet and buy the 32gb version but still hoping that AT&T's 64gb version is a go on T-Mobile's HSPA+ Network, I know the LTE will work OK it is just the HSPA+ Network that is in question.
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I can confirm. Att version will not work on Tmo HSPA+. It works on some bands (in some places), but not good enough to think about trying move one phone to the other carrier either way. The Tmo version works a little better on the Att network, but again doesn't support all the correct frequencies. I'm returning the Tmobile version and sticking with the Att one for the better network here in Austin.
HTC One having same network problems as HOX+
timbercoyote said:
I can confirm. Att version will not work on Tmo HSPA+. It works on some bands (in some places), but not good enough to think about trying move one phone to the other carrier either way. The Tmo version works a little better on the Att network, but again doesn't support all the correct frequencies. I'm returning the Tmobile version and sticking with the Att one for the better network here in Austin.
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So, after selling the HOX+, I got 6 HTC One's thinking it might have been the phone. All 6 of them had the same network issues. So, it's AT&T in my area that has all those problems. I have confirmed with 2 of my friends and my wife and we all have similar problems. Does AT&T work in more than 5 US cities? Wow - nothing but problems. In any event, the HTC One's had crack problems and the On/Off button was very recessed and half of it was inoperable so I returned all of them!!!
I only have problems with att during and immediately after wicked storms.
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Weird,
I want to by HTC One to use with T-Mobile in USA, if I select unlocked version from HTC site:
HTC One® Unlocked (32Gb) says: The unlocked version does not support the 1700 band so HSPA+ and LTE will not work on the T-Mobile network.
http://shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=41589
HTC One® Developer Edition (64GB) doen't say this.
http://shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=41599
Is it safe to buy 64G for T-Mobile?
The problem is I can't buy from T-Mobile onlive steore, cos they sell only with a plan (even full-price version).
Thanks.
Make sure you live in area with 1900mhz bands reframed or tmobile lte otherwise you will be stuck with edge speeds
worry said:
Weird,
I want to by HTC One to use with T-Mobile in USA, if I select unlocked version from HTC site:
HTC One® Unlocked (32Gb) says: The unlocked version does not support the 1700 band so HSPA+ and LTE will not work on the T-Mobile network.
http://shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=41589
HTC One® Developer Edition (64GB) doen't say this.
http://shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=41599
Is it safe to buy 64G for T-Mobile?
The problem is I can't buy from T-Mobile onlive steore, cos they sell only with a plan (even full-price version).
Thanks.
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They have the same exact frequencies. HTC goofed up. Its in the forums bro. Anyhow, thing is T-mobile will work on AWS LTE band 4 1700. but not 4G which is hspa. If your in the area with 1900 coverage or LTE then your in luck. If not.. go on to a t-mobile store and get yourself a phone
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They have the same exact frequencies. HTC goofed up. Its in the forums bro. Anyhow, thing is T-mobile will work on AWS LTE band 4 1700. but not 4G which is hspa. If your in the area with 1900 coverage or LTE then your in luck. If not.. go on to a t-mobile store and get yourself a phone
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That's stupid, how do I know my coverage frequency? I'm in Seattle area, sometimes I travel to LA.
worry said:
That's stupid, how do I know my coverage frequency? I'm in Seattle area, sometimes I travel to LA.
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Use this website should help
http://www.airportal.de/
worry said:
That's stupid, how do I know my coverage frequency? I'm in Seattle area, sometimes I travel to LA.
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LA has spotty 1900Mhz coverage on TMo. It's far, far better here with 1700Mhz. That's the exact reason why I bought the TMo version instead. If I need to unlock it, I'll either pay $20 on eBay for a code, or just pay for my device and get one from TMo instead. There isn't any branding on the phone at all, and you'd miss WiFi calling with the HTC store version.
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That's stupid, how do I know my coverage frequency? I'm in Seattle area, sometimes I travel to LA.
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Bro, if you got always "4G" on your last phone its not going to work on dev edition simply put. no 3g for you sir! if you got "LTE" or "H" on it then dev phone will work for you. if you always got just 4G.. welcome to Edge world on your dev phone.
I just put it to you in simple terms. Off you go Decide either the dev or t-mobile phone. Honestly, its looking like you gotta send that bad boy back and get a t-mobile one
Im in the same boat. I get E on HTC unlocked One, when I had 4G on my Tmobile One S unlocked. So, if I return the phone and get a T-Mobile version I should get 4G like I did with my old One S??
olemetry said:
Im in the same boat. I get E on HTC unlocked One, when I had 4G on my Tmobile One S unlocked. So, if I return the phone and get a T-Mobile version I should get 4G like I did with my old One S??
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Yes.
That is crazy. I dont think that 1700 warning was there two weeks ago when I pre-ordered. Either way, where do I get a T-Mobile unlocked from now? Do I have to buy a regular T-Mobile outright then enter a unlock code? Thanks again.
olemetry said:
That is crazy. I dont think that 1700 warning was there two weeks ago when I pre-ordered. Either way, where do I get a T-Mobile unlocked from now? Do I have to buy a regular T-Mobile outright then enter a unlock code? Thanks again.
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Yes.
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olemetry said:
That is crazy. I dont think that 1700 warning was there two weeks ago when I pre-ordered. Either way, where do I get a T-Mobile unlocked from now? Do I have to buy a regular T-Mobile outright then enter a unlock code? Thanks again.
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It was there all along and everyone who did the research knew it won't get T-Mobile aws band. Your best bet is buying direct from T-Mobile and unlocking.
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Becool0130 said:
Bro, if you got always "4G" on your last phone its not going to work on dev edition simply put. no 3g for you sir! if you got "LTE" or "H" on it then dev phone will work for you. if you always got just 4G.. welcome to Edge world on your dev phone.
I just put it to you in simple terms. Off you go Decide either the dev or t-mobile phone. Honestly, its looking like you gotta send that bad boy back and get a t-mobile one
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T-Mobile's branded phones always say "4G" when on HSPA+. International phones usually idle with "3G" and then change to "H" or "H+" while data is active. Neither of these things is an indication of what frequency your data is being transferred over.
That airportal site linked above seems pretty good; there are other crowdsourced options for finding the PCS refarmed areas, too. A good way to be safe if you're dead set on the developer edition is to wait for LTE to roll out in your area since that will definitely work.
olemetry said:
That is crazy. I dont think that 1700 warning was there two weeks ago when I pre-ordered. Either way, where do I get a T-Mobile unlocked from now? Do I have to buy a regular T-Mobile outright then enter a unlock code? Thanks again.
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You don't need an unlock code if you plan to use it on T-Mobile US (including prepaid MVNOs), only if you plan to use it on AT&T or internationally.
Dude call tmobile and you will be able to order via the phone
olemetry said:
That is crazy. I dont think that 1700 warning was there two weeks ago when I pre-ordered. Either way, where do I get a T-Mobile unlocked from now? Do I have to buy a regular T-Mobile outright then enter a unlock code? Thanks again.
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Wal-mart has it for $148 with 2 years contract.
I've been looking around for some good deals on a off contract HTC One. I'm currently on AT&T but I've noticed T-Mobile and Sprint HTC One's seem to be selling cheaper. I've read that all HTC One's have the same hardware including radios, but what about the LTE bands? Is there any difference between the carriers? And would I first have to unlock another carriers branded phone in order to get it to work on AT&T?
Thunder350 said:
I've been looking around for some good deals on a off contract HTC One. I'm currently on AT&T but I've noticed T-Mobile and Sprint HTC One's seem to be selling cheaper. I've read that all HTC One's have the same hardware including radios, but what about the LTE bands? Is there any difference between the carriers? And would I first have to unlock another carriers branded phone in order to get it to work on AT&T?
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I'm pretty sure the T-Mobile One will work with AT&T's LTE network. Not sure if you need to unlock the AT&T or T-Mobile Ones to use on each other's networks. You can't use Sprint on anything but Sprint's network. Sprint uses CDMA and AT&T and T-Mobile are GSM networks.
You should get a T-Mobile version of the One, that is the best version to get. It will support both AT&T and T-Mobile LTE bands, plus regular AWS 4G on T-Mobile. You will need to have it SIM unlocked to use it with AT&T, eBay is where you can do it.
From where I am, socal, on CL everywhere, the AT&T version is always cheaper. T-Mobile version is harder to find and usually costs more.
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Thanks for the answers. Good to know a T-Mobile phone will work should I purchase one.
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Curious as well, can someone give solid proof of all bands? I wouldn't want to just fall back on word of mouth when purchasing a phone based on this info.
Thanks!
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I've been looking around for some good deals on a off contract HTC One. I'm currently on AT&T but I've noticed T-Mobile and Sprint HTC One's seem to be selling cheaper. I've read that all HTC One's have the same hardware including radios, but what about the LTE bands? Is there any difference between the carriers? And would I first have to unlock another carriers branded phone in order to get it to work on AT&T?
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No only t mobile not sprint or version bit you could get int version
I am a real newbie when it comes to most of what you guys are doing but anyway I have a few questions I wonder if someone could answer.
I was considering getting the international version of the Mega 6.3 but I really would like to get the fastest download speeds I can so the discussions on using the ATT and MetroPCS Megas on the T Mobile network really interests me.
Questions:
After unlocking the phone, is the MetroPCS Mega more compatible with T Mobile than the ATT version? Is there an advantage buying one over the other? I understand that I may have to change the network settings also to have the phone fully functional on LTE, etc.
Does unlocking the phone void the warranty?
Also, I get a lot of misinformation from cell phone stores I was wondering if this is correct; a T Mobile store in my local mall said that in order for me to get LTE I would have to get on one of there more expensive plans (I am on the $30 "Walmart" plan with my Note 2).
Thanks.
bkkcnxsi said:
I am a real newbie when it comes to most of what you guys are doing but anyway I have a few questions I wonder if someone could answer.
I was considering getting the international version of the Mega 6.3 but I really would like to get the fastest download speeds I can so the discussions on using the ATT and MetroPCS Megas on the T Mobile network really interests me.
Questions:
After unlocking the phone, is the MetroPCS Mega more compatible with T Mobile than the ATT version? Is there an advantage buying one over the other? I understand that I may have to change the network settings also to have the phone fully functional on LTE, etc.
Does unlocking the phone void the warranty?
Also, I get a lot of misinformation from cell phone stores I was wondering if this is correct; a T Mobile store in my local mall said that in order for me to get LTE I would have to get on one of there more expensive plans (I am on the $30 "Walmart" plan with my Note 2).
Thanks.
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After unlocking, the MetroPCS Mega is more compatible with T-mobile than ATT (MetroPCS these days uses T-mobile's network). The MetroPCS version has the compatible frequencies for T-mobile's native 3G/4G hspa and 4GLTE network while the ATT version only has support for Tmo's 4GLTE and unless you live in a refarmed area (1900mhz) you won't be getting 3G/4G hspa coverage.
Sim unlocking a phone does not void warranty and the person at the mall is wrong. I'm currently using the $30 "Walmart" plan and once you edit the APN settings, you'll get LTE on T-mobile (I tested this on an Atrix HD I own which support Tmo's LTE network).
I'm in the same boat as you, contemplating picking up the international version, but the MetroPCS version is highly tempting. Right now, if you're a new Metro customer, the price of the Mega is $349 ($499 - $100 instant rebate - $50 off new activation) - can't really beat that price. Also, supposedly, MetroPCS will unlock the phone for free after three months of using their service.
bkkcnxsi said:
I am a real newbie when it comes to most of what you guys are doing but anyway I have a few questions I wonder if someone could answer.
I was considering getting the international version of the Mega 6.3 but I really would like to get the fastest download speeds I can so the discussions on using the ATT and MetroPCS Megas on the T Mobile network really interests me.
Questions:
After unlocking the phone, is the MetroPCS Mega more compatible with T Mobile than the ATT version? Is there an advantage buying one over the other? I understand that I may have to change the network settings also to have the phone fully functional on LTE, etc.
Does unlocking the phone void the warranty?
Also, I get a lot of misinformation from cell phone stores I was wondering if this is correct; a T Mobile store in my local mall said that in order for me to get LTE I would have to get on one of there more expensive plans (I am on the $30 "Walmart" plan with my Note 2).
Thanks.
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