Auto WB issue! Video Link showing dynamic changing in light sources: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F0x1wkt5EU
This ones to all you SGS2 owners...
Today whilst takin' pics of my son, i noticed whilst pointing the camera down at my cream coloured carpet a pink hue was clearly visible in the centre of the shot. I took a snap and the hue was on definitely there... this was during the day time with only ambient light from my large bay windows...
slowly panning up across the room towards the window it seems to fade away, but directly at the light surface its unmissable...
I double checked the shot on my partners DHD, her shot was completely pink, very poor camera!!
Anyone elses S2 suffering from this? a quick google search shows this has also been an issue on other handsets such as the Nexus One and Samsung Focus...
Cheers,
Dickie
This is very important.
Can you make some photos and upload it?
if someone more have the classic tint pink of cheap cameras like other HTCs I am going to cancel my order inmediately.
Here are some untouched Macro shots taken in my backyard in fading light with the Galaxy S II, was a bit windy so the flowers kept moving:
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I don't know of any sansung Focus.
Can anyone shoot to white walls or cloudy sky?
It is the faster way to see if the camera have the pink tint.
Intratech said:
I don't know of any sansung Focus.
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lol alright smart arse, edited
The shot! 8mp default settings
http://postimage.org/image/7zd9ak9w/
Dickie
just to add, this has been the only time ive noticed this issue, shots taken across the room show no visible signs of this, just the straight shot...
tbh, with the quality of all the other shots ive taken, its not a deal breaker for me, this phone still blows away any other ive used, and i don't find blank white walls/carpets interesting enough to take photos of...
Dickie
That sure looks like something I read about some HTC phone a while back. I'll need to check my phone to see. I wonder if it's software or hardware related.
after some testing i believe this is a software issue, specifically with the AUTO White Balance setting, as i point it to the cloudy sky out the window it looks perfect and when switched to incandescent it goes away!!
like i said before, i don't make a habit of shooting my carpet or my white walls very often!
Dickie
EDIT: when switched to Daylight mode, it also goes away, although it makes the carpet look orange for obvious reasons... Definitely a White Balance issue, the lighting and colour of the carpet requires the correct setting as opposed to the Auto mode, outside or with good lighting the Auto setting is fine! as far as i'm concerned, panic over! lol
dickie2007 said:
after some testing i believe this is a software issue, specifically with the AUTO White Balance setting, as i point it to the cloudy sky out the window it looks perfect and when switched to incandescent it goes away!!
like i said before, i don't make a habit of shooting my carpet or my white walls very often!
Dickie
EDIT: when switched to Daylight mode, it also goes away, although it makes the carpet look orange for obvious reasons... Definitely a White Balance issue, the lighting and colour of the carpet requires the correct setting as opposed to the Auto mode, outside or with good lighting the Auto setting is fine! as far as i'm concerned, panic over! lol
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That it isn't a white balance issue, it is a hardware problem. HTC got the same problems on a lot of devices before, and they tried to hide it tweaking the colors, but that doesnt solve the real problem.
If I were you I will return the phone for another one.
kersh said:
That it isn't a white balance issue, it is a hardware problem. HTC got the same problems on a lot of devices before, and they tried to hide it tweaking the colors, but that doesnt solve the real problem.
If I were you I will return the phone for another one.
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then why when i switch to the correct WB setting for the lighting i'm in does the issue disappear?? the issue only arrises in Auto mode under certain lighting conditions. just took a white sheet outside on Auto - No issue!
Dickie
Maybe in a non-auto mode they know the color temperature that software will apply to the image and then they can tweak the pink tint of the image, but with an auto mode that changes dinamically the color grade they cant adjust the pink tint.
I really dont know, but all of the pink tints problems in all other phones are hardware related issues, I don't know why this is going to be different.
i get exactly what you are saying, but i'm only going by what i'm working out on my device...
at the end of the day, like i said before, its not a deal breaker for me, and ive not had a single issue with it in other lighting conditions...
Also, ive just walked around my room allowing the camera to adjust dynamically, and it does disappear!! i have a standing lamp on, a small window on the opposite wall, and the large bay window at the front of the room, the pink hue is not permanent and is just the Auto WB not being perfect.
Its even visible on video, so i'll upload a vid of the pink disappearing as i walk around the room and the light changes dynamically! Auto WB issue for sure!!
Dickie
Just registered after seeing this...
A pink hue like you describe usually means infrared contamination, and happens on any camera to varying degree. Some black clothing in direct sunlight suffers the most.
Edit: Extreme Example: vimeo (dot) com/5637250
Regards, Matt
I'm just uploading a video to Youtube 720p - WB AUTO
You can clearly see the pink hue fading in and out as the phone auto adjusts to the varying lighting in my home, namely Incandescent light fittings, Fluorecent light fittings and daylight outside.
If i set the camera to a setting for one of those lighting conditions specifically, there is no issue in said condition.
I will update this post when its uploaded with the link - THIS IS NOT A PERMANENT HUE CAUSED BY HARDWARE - ITS SOFTWARE STRUGGLING WITH THE LIGHTING CONDITION!! - phew!!
Dickie
EDIT: the hue becomes very apparent after pointing the camera and any of the light sources directly then quickly moving to a white surface, it then gradually adjusts away...
LINK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F0x1wkt5EU
kersh said:
Maybe in a non-auto mode they know the color temperature that software will apply to the image and then they can tweak the pink tint of the image, but with an auto mode that changes dinamically the color grade they cant adjust the pink tint.
I really dont know, but all of the pink tints problems in all other phones are hardware related issues, I don't know why this is going to be different.
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I doubt Samsung will use the low quality camera sensor that HTC uses buddy.
ScepticMatt said:
Just registered after seeing this...
A pink hue like you describe usually means infrared contamination, and happens on any camera to varying degree. Some black clothing in direct sunlight suffers the most.
Edit: Extreme Example: vimeo (dot) com/5637250
Regards, Matt
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not sure its the same buddy, it appears in the centre of the image and fades out, i'm 100% certain that this issue is WB/lighting condition related, 10mins and the link will be up if your interested...
Dickie
Intratech said:
I doubt Samsung will use the low quality camera sensor that HTC uses buddy.
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I can't agree more there, you should have seen the same shot on the Desire HD, the carpet was entirely pink!! not just a spot in the middle..
Dickie
BTW I just checked my phone and observed the same situation as described by Dickie. After checking for myself I'm certain it's software related. They may need to tweak their auto white balance algorithm.
Please see link above or in OP
Dickie
The camera on my Streak presents a green screen and takes green pictures. I don't take many pictures with the Streak. It was probably two weeks between the last good picture and now with the green. I use SD 1.9 and just recently updated the baseband from 305 to 351 by flashing a new amss.mbn. The other event of significance between good pictures and green pictures was I lost the Streak on the golf course and it went through a heavy rain overnight before I found it. There was water inside. Have dried it out and everything else is working fine. I've searched lots of forums and most don't apply to the Streak. The most common solution to the green screen problem is to reboot. I've done that and I'm still green. This looks like a white balance problem or something similar, but the WB controls on the camera are much too limited to be any help. I hope this isn't a hardware failure. How can you tell? Anyone have any suggestions?
Nobody has any ideas?! Nobody wants to call me an idiot?
Sounds like maybe you have something on the lens, the grass/water stained the lens.
Thanks for your thoughts. This is a vivid green not a tinting like from a stain, plus it's the same on both the front and back cameras.
While messing around with my phone, I noticed that in certain conditions, using the camera would result in the middle of the image being saturated and the periphery desaturated.
It was a subtle effect that I only observed because I was on my couch playing with my phone. Did anyone else notice this same effect? I tried it out with another smartphone (HTC Sensation) and it did a similar thing.
Looks like it is infrared spillover. Try covering the flash on the back and see if it produces the same photo. It is probably used to focus the camera.
Happens to me too. I able to reduce it by shooting the pictures by taping the screens and saturation levels at normal. Avoid shooting white photos right after shooting a heavily saturated photo.
I think that's an HTC thing. The HD2 had it pretty bad, but was lessened with a hotfix. My TouchPro has that too. Suprised to still see that on their latest devices.
Listerine said:
While messing around with my phone, I noticed that in certain conditions, using the camera would result in the middle of the image being saturated and the periphery desaturated.
It was a subtle effect that I only observed because I was on my couch playing with my phone. Did anyone else notice this same effect? I tried it out with another smartphone (HTC Sensation) and it did a similar thing.
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Hi, I never see this on my Radar? You said in certain condition, you can reproduce it. Would you mind to tell me how do you do it? Cheers
It's a software issue - HTC had the same troubles with the HTC HD2 and the HTC HD7 - both were remedied with a firmware update. On both phones it showed up as a pink blotch too.
cobbcobbdavid said:
Hi, I never see this on my Radar? You said in certain condition, you can reproduce it. Would you mind to tell me how do you do it? Cheers
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Sorry for the late reply, I thought the thread had run its course and I usually don't check the forums.
Anyways, I really only notice it while looking at a white wall illuminated by strong incandescent lighting, though I haven't tried it in a variety of other settings yet. I noticed it by chance really, while I was sitting on the couch playing with the camera settings. In normal day to day settings I never notice it.
Judging by the other responses here, I suppose I'm not alone, but the effect really doesn't bother me much. Also as others have noted, it seems to be related to an HTC bug.
Even I experience the same problem on my Radar. I rebooted the phone a few times but the pink blotch still showed up. It's not showing up since last few days but comes once in a while. I hope HTC fixes this issue in the next update.
Hey guys, I've never posted here, I mostly just lurk and try to learn things.
My question is a bit difficult to explain but I'll try my best. Do me a favor and take a photo while completely covering the camera lens, then view the photo in the gallery. Make sure youre in a dark room and viewing the photo in full screen, wait a second for the back and task manager buttons to turn off as well.
Is your picture completely black or are the outside edges and corners fuzzy and white almost?
My previous phones are Galaxy S1, 2, 3 and 4 along with the Note 3 (which I miss :/ ) never had a problem like this, I do believe some GS2s had a similar problem with the screen being spotty in black images.
thanks.
redline06 said:
Hey guys, I've never posted here, I mostly just lurk and try to learn things.
My question is a bit difficult to explain but I'll try my best. Do me a favor and take a photo while completely covering the camera lens, then view the photo in the gallery. Make sure youre in a dark room and viewing the photo in full screen, wait a second for the back and task manager buttons to turn off as well.
Is your picture completely black or are the outside edges and corners fuzzy and white almost?
My previous phones are Galaxy S1, 2, 3 and 4 along with the Note 3 (which I miss :/ ) never had a problem like this, I do believe some GS2s had a similar problem with the screen being spotty in black images.
thanks.
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Hello there, I did a test for you on mine, when i was in my room with my lights on but completely covered the lens and mine came out fuzzy. It seems that the s5 camera is very powerful picking up the slightest bit of light !
Then I turned off the lights in my room and did the same test, this time it was pitch black.
Did you try turning all your lights off in your room?
Thanks for your input, my initial test was in a room with the lights off. Looks so bad :/
redline06 said:
Thanks for your input, my initial test was in a room with the lights off. Looks so bad :/
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I noticed that with my camera too. The exact same thing happens to me too when I cover the camera, in both lighted and unlighted rooms. But I'm pretty sure it's normal. When your ISO is on auto, you'll notice that the camera turns up the ISO past what you can manually set it at (800). So since they're bumping up the ISO so high (probably ~1600 in dark areas), there's going to be considerable amounts of noise, even with very low light.
You can see for yourself that if you compare auto ISO and ISO 800 in a dark room, the latter will be much more pitch black like you expect it to be.
I think I have a duff camera on my new Z2, took some photos of a off white coloured box and a wooden desk and green horizontal banding on the photos. I also noticed what looks to be an oscillation in brightness when previewing a picture before taking the photo.
Has anyone else noticed this behaviour? I have requested a replacement as this is not something I have seen before and don't think it should be doing this.
The other query is about image stabilisation, stabilisation can be enabled in manual mode but cannot when using the superior auto mode, is this correct?
Thanks
Mine performs great. I'd ask for a replacement because it seems like a defect.
Fluorescent tube lighting by any chance?
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There was fluorescent lighting but it didn't affect an iphone taking the exact same picture, my old Galaxy S3 wasn't affected by fluorescent lights either. If the Z2 is affected that badly by lights in the ceiling it is pretty crap and will definitely be getting a refund.
We will see if the replacement is any better but I don't have a huge amount of confidence that it will be.
George_2010 said:
There was fluorescent lighting but it didn't affect an iphone taking the exact same picture, my old Galaxy S3 wasn't affected by fluorescent lights either. If the Z2 is affected that badly by lights in the ceiling it is pretty crap and will definitely be getting a refund.
We will see if the replacement is any better but I don't have a huge amount of confidence that it will be.
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Should be an attachment showing the banding on the photograph.
Point any digital camera near a fluorescent light and you'll see why I asked that. It's not constant light, they pulse and taking photos of white objects bounces the pulsing back to the camera, iphones may be different due to a rolling shutter what ever that means but I know for a fact galaxy s3 did the same because I had two of them and I spent a long time in my flourescently lit shed trying to take photos of white snakes.
Look here and read the section on disadvantages and sub section on flicker effect.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorescent_lamp
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