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Would you recommend getting the VZW Developer Edition or sticking with the normal VZW S4 ?? (not the google edition)
Here are my notes:
-I already have the normal VZW S4. I have about 5 days to return it
-My current S4 is not yet rooted
-I am paying full retail either way in order to keep unlimited data. (I use a ton of data)
-The Developer Edition looks like it only has a 30 day warranty. Is that true? even for hardware?
-I'd like to be able to easily root my phone in order to do things like easily wifi tether, record voice calls, remove bloatware, etc.
Should I stick with the normal S4 and root it, or go with the Developer Edition. It seems like if I have an issue on the normal version, I could always De-root it, and deal with any warranty that way.
Thanks!
Personally I'll be honest with you, if you're going to root why not just throw CM10 on? Idk I paid full retail for mine also but I just don't see the big hype about the developer edition if we can do all of it with the regular edition.
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From what I have seen, the Google Edition S4 is GSM only, meaning AT&T or T-Mobile.
Developer edition with the unlocked boot loader was release for Verizon today?. Hmmmm
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I ordered one. I believe it comes carrier unlocked which is a bonus. I hope there is some support for it.
droidrev71 said:
I ordered one. I believe it comes carrier unlocked which is a bonus. I hope there is some support for it.
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I think even the normal retail ones will work with another SIM. I don't think you have to do anything special.
crunchybutternut said:
From what I have seen, the Google Edition S4 is GSM only, meaning AT&T or T-Mobile.
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Negative... Vzw is getting Google Edition...
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chrishoyt2012 said:
Negative... Vzw is getting Google Edition...
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Really? What source? I was under the impression no Google Edition for VZW, only the Dev Edition.
chrishoyt2012 said:
Negative... Vzw is getting Google Edition...
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Do you have a source or link for that information?
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What are the real differences w/ Verizon Note 2 vs to other Note 2 versions? And I am not talking about stickers. What is the differences in hardware, software and overall experience? And are they giving multitasking out the door? Etc...
JaguarXT said:
What are the real differences w/ Verizon Note 2 vs to other Note 2 versions? And I am not talking about stickers. What is the differences in hardware, software and overall experience? And are they giving multitasking out the door? Etc...
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Anything right now about this is just pure speculation.
Right now it is thought they are pretty much identical to Sprint / AT&T models, except for maybe multi-window feature. It seems like there are updates that have been rolled out/will soon be available by carrier and a modified ROM that is supposedly going to be released on XDA that has the feature.
only known difference is home button branding on verizon only.
tmobile and att have wireless charging contacts exposed on back panel
sprint does not
snapz54 said:
only known difference is home button branding on verizon only.
tmobile and att have wireless charging contacts exposed on back panel
sprint does not
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I thought the leads on the Sprint version were covered up by something.
There are some different pre-installed apps on the various carrier branded versions. Hardware is the same as far as I know, minus possibly the battery. I think carriers may also offer slightly different color variations as well, similar to the SGS3. For the most part though, Samsung has stopped making 400 different configurations of one phone and are making one phone and just changing the software around for the various carriers instead.
I'm curious if the Verizon version will be quad-core.
shuura said:
I'm curious if the Verizon version will be quad-core.
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There's no need to be curious. It is quad-core.
Hardware will only be different in color/branding, and any changes to the radio chips/firmware so they work with VZWs network. Other than that, all devices should be the same from a hardware standpoint. Software is where most of the differences will be, but most of the stuff should be the same as well, with only a handful of carrier specific apps being different.
Verizon says the the note doesn't have nfc does anyone know if that is true?
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DJ1994 said:
Verizon says the the note doesn't have nfc does anyone know if that is true?
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Where?
If it is a rep I wouldn't read too much Ito what they say. Without NFC that means no sbeam which seems unlikely
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Verizon says the the note doesn't have nfc does anyone know if that is true?
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Are you referring to the website comparison? If so, Verizon already said that was a mistake. I second the sbeam logic.
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Samsung Music Hub is part of the features of Samsung Galaxy Note II (Verizon) Check out Samsung support site for Verizon version. The site doesn't mention NFC, but Samsung's support page for T-Mobile's Note 2 doesn't show NFC either even when that device has NFC. The NFC is part of Samsung Music Hub so you can "beam" music. So I take that Samsung Galaxy Note II (Verizon) as having NFC. And yes, the support site does confirm the S Beam.
agree gaminish
I think it does not matter much
GsmKenti said:
I think it does not matter much
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While it won't stop me from purchasing the phone, I have used NFC on my GNex like crazy. I love Gwallet and being to bump stuff over to my Nexus 7 and back. So for me, it matters a little bit
NFC is there on Verizon version. And there is a hack that gets Google Wallet installed into Galaxy Note 2 and running.
The main question is "When can our community find a way for us to get around the bootloader locked?", so we can root these babies.
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JaguarXT said:
NFC is there on Verizon version. And there is a hack that gets Google Wallet installed into Galaxy Note 2 and running.
The main question is "When can our community find a way for us to get around the bootloader locked?", so we can root these babies.
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Even if the bootloader is locked we should be able to get root.
SFBPro said:
Even if the bootloader is locked we should be able to get root.
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Lets do it! Roooot!!! All Smiles
The only hardware differences are that there is a cdma radio in the Verizon one
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I have strong confidence in the dev community to get root on Verizon's version without much delay.
RaptorMD said:
I have strong confidence in the dev community to get root on Verizon's version without much delay.
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I'm with you on that. There are alot of great devs out there! I'm sure root will be obtained very soon after release. The bootloader, however, will be a different beast...
Figured most people here would appreciate this news.
http://phandroid.com/2013/05/23/galaxy-s4-developer-edition/
Could be a good alternative for us on Verizon considering we don't get the "google experience" model.
Cool.
yep. Waiting for the Ports
Def. getting this. With cm10.1 I can make it a nexus experience while keeping it on a better network
I almost bought the gs4 (full price to keep unlimited data) at best buy today. I wonder how long we'll have to wait for developer edition for vzw? Where we would buy it? How much would it cost? Who would handle warranty and insurance?
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Still no 32 for VZW. There might be 1gb more storage with this version, but likely no Verizon support since a dev version. I would rather root a stock VZW version and have warranty support with a 32 model.
rushless said:
Still no 32 for VZW. There might be 1gb more storage with this version, but likely no Verizon support since a dev version. I would rather root a stock VZW version and have warranty support with a 32 model.
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It should still have the same warranty as it is still a Verizon phone.
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My understanding is there is no warranty for unlocked phones. This has changed?
My job pays for my phones, otherwise I would jump at something like this. I hate all the crap Verizon forces on every phone we buy.
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My understanding is there is no warranty for unlocked phones. This has changed?
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Last I heard if you buy the dev edition and unlock it, you void the warranty. I also seem to recall that you can't go to a Verizon store for warranty work, it has to go directly to Samsung.
Will having a developer edition help us with the "normal" verision? Like, for instance, will it make it easier to understand how to unlock the normal edition, etc?
Should we all just return our devices and wait for the dev edition?...
I also wonder if the developer model will come free of vzw bloat? If so I might not even need to unlock it... at least not right away. Unfortunately it prolly will come with samsung stuff I hate like talk back?
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geoff5093 said:
Last I heard if you buy the dev edition and unlock it, you void the warranty. I also seem to recall that you can't go to a Verizon store for warranty work, it has to go directly to Samsung.
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The bootloader on the dev edition ships unlocked, that is why they call it a developer edition. With no Verizon bloatware.
cybertec69 said:
The bootloader on the dev edition ships unlocked, that is why they call it a developer edition. With no Verizon bloatware.
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What about samsung launcher and apps?
No way to purchase accident insurance?
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recDNA said:
What about samsung launcher and apps?
No way to purchase accident insurance?
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Yes it runs touchwiz still, and you can insure the phone through verizon too.
But we will have to purchase the phone directly from Samsung? Do they have repair facilities for warranty work in USA?
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recDNA said:
But we will have to purchase the phone directly from Samsung? Do they have repair facilities for warranty work in USA?
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Yes and Yes. remember verizon's insurance is through asurion. I heard squaretrade was a good alternative
BennyJr said:
Yes it runs touchwiz still, and you can insure the phone through verizon too.
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The only is if you have any software issues you would have to go thru Samsung, since Verizon has not inserted any of their special "lock down, and bloat" sauce into the phone. Any physical damage, you will need to go thru any of the insurance vendors you sign up with.
Will it cost a lot more?
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recDNA said:
Will it cost a lot more?
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Most likely $650 retail, you are buying an unlocked phone directly from the manufacturer, not from Verizon on a subsidized price.
If I were to pay "full price", as in $600-$650 or whatever, what is usually the best place to buy the phone, when something like warranty is considered?
Looks like Best Buy and Amazon don't sell it.
I'm considering getting the TMO S5 to use on my AT&T plan (grandfathered unlimited data).
If the TMO S5 gets TWRP recovery then I'm definitely in.
since you're looking for a TMO S5, have you tried a TMO store?
CZ Eddie said:
If I were to pay "full price", as in $600-$650 or whatever, what is usually the best place to buy the phone, when something like warranty is considered?
Looks like Best Buy and Amazon don't sell it.
I'm considering getting the TMO S5 to use on my AT&T plan (grandfathered unlimited data).
If the TMO S5 gets TWRP recovery then I'm definitely in.
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I don't know if this will help you but I purchased my Note 3 from TMOBILE but had to buy a TMOBILE PLAN (they said they couildn't just sell me a phone. So I bought the phone online and when it came in the mail - I cancelled the tmobile data plan aft, before I activated the line. Because I never activated the line, I didn't have to pay any fees - beyond the cost of the phone. The only other thing you have to worry about is getting an unlock code for the phone - Tmobile may or may not give the code to you - in which case you can probably buy it online - or it might be possible that Chain Fires Region Fix will work as well. (that is what happened on the NOTE - the region fix also unlocked Tmobile CARRIER. (it is also possible that secret samsung codes will unlock carrier (The S4 has codes that work for that phone - I don't know if they work on the S5)
I hope this helps... (I think I read that some people were able to buy a phone from TMOBILE for use on ATT and they purchased it directly from the TMOBILE store - but I am not for sure about that. I know that Best Buy will not let you do that.
The code to unlock the phone was fixed in future versions of the software and don't work on the 4.4.2 s4 software.
I doubt that it will work on this one.
If you are going to continue using AT&T you should be able to go into one of their stores and buy one out right.
It shouldn't impact your account if you do.
May as well buy the international version.
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May as well buy the international version.
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International doesn't get 4G, so nahhhh...
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CZ Eddie said:
International doesn't get 4G, so nahhhh...
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Give them time. There are two international versions of the Note 3 out there and the one I have has 4G.
They will appear on Swappa.com soon enough.
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barondebxl said:
They will appear on Swappa.com soon enough.
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That's where I plan on buying one. When they get below 400.
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Saturny said:
That's where I plan on buying one. When they get below 400.
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Well then you can wait a good 6 months. Good luck
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RMXO said:
since you're looking for a TMO S5, have you tried a TMO store?
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Lol.
T-Mobile store will charge full retail.
Dang, does Amazon, BestBuy and no other major retailer out there offer this phone?
I want to stay away from eBay because of warranty concerns.
The Note 3 and few other devices from T-Mobile can pick up AT&T LTE signal, can the S5 do so as well? Where can we get the device unlocked?
Edit: I have found a website where I believe you can unlock any gsm Galaxy S 5 (I haven't tried it myself but others have) here is the site
http://www.theunlockingcompany.com
It should work without any issues. The cost is $41.99 USD.
Edit 2: This website has been confirmed to be working great
http://www.cellfservices.com/
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Yes it absolutely have all AT&T LTE bands, as well as HSPA/GSM ones. Just needs to be unlocked.
Is there a way to network unlock the phone right now? I was going to switch back to ATT today but I might use my Jump on an S5 before I go.
I believe cellunlocker.net should have that unlock soon hopefully...
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As of today we are no joy.
T Mobile makes you wait 40 days before they will release the unlock code. And it's $760 total.
I too want this answer -- I paid $660 plus tax ($720) to get mine yesterday.
I bought from TMo because I had read that they aren't locked and the sales person told me the same -- well, it seems that it is. Called Tech Support and they said they can't help me because I don't have a TMo #.
I'll go back to the store today -- unless there's another option.
For poeple hoping to unlock their phones. Pray Chainfire makes Regionlock Away on the play work on the S5.
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For poeple hoping to unlock their phones. Pray Chainfire makes Regionlock Away on the play work on the S5.
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Has anyone tried to use Samsung Secret codes to unock it? I am not sure if this works for the S5 or not, but there are steps you can use on the S4 that allows you to unlock the phone using codes - See this thread for steps - (careful - I am not positive this works - I don't know what the downside might be if you screw up - but it might be an option - or possibly something similar? )http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2283068
milan03 said:
Yes it absolutely have all AT&T LTE bands, as well as HSPA/GSM ones. Just needs to be unlocked.
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Does anyone know if the Tmo S5 have the exact same bands as AT&T S5? I am wondering because in Chicago, AT&T has LTE-A and wanted to make sure the Tmo version would also have this if used on AT&T network. Thanks in advance.
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Does anyone know if the Tmo S5 have the exact same bands as AT&T S5? I am wondering because in Chicago, AT&T has LTE-A and wanted to make sure the Tmo version would also have this if used on AT&T network. Thanks in advance.
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Carrier Aggregation is only enabled on AT&T S5 variant. As far as individual AT&T LTE and HSPA+ bands, they're all present on T-Mobile variant.
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Carrier Aggregation is only enabled on AT&T S5 variant. As far as individual AT&T LTE and HSPA+ bands, they're all present on T-Mobile variant.
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Thanks, I'll probably go with the AT&T variant then.
I have found a potentially site to unlock the device (potentially cause I haven't tried it but seems legit). Check the OP.
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barondebxl said:
I have found a potentially site to unlock the device (potentially cause I haven't tried it but seems legit). Check the OP.
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Did the guys that tried it say that it had to be activated on the T-Mobile network before being able to be unlocked?
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Did the guys that tried it say that it had to be activated on the T-Mobile network before being able to be unlocked?
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No, I checked a video from samjpullen on youtube, he is fairly known youtuber and he recommended the site. Here is his video:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=phOSUUIM2W4
He is in the UK but I did check the site when you choose Samsung and then choose galaxy s 5 it asks you which country and what carrier. When I had the T-Mobile note 3 I didn't need to activate it to unlock it.
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Nice. I did check multiple unlock sites and several of them had the T-Mobile S5 listed. Didn't want to buy it without knowing if it would work though. I also know some people at T-Mobile so I'm going to see if they can do something for me as well. I just want the phone already, lol.
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Nice. I did check multiple unlock sites and several of them had the T-Mobile S5 listed. Didn't want to buy it without knowing if it would work though. I also know some people at T-Mobile so I'm going to see if they can do something for me as well. I just want the phone already, lol.
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Me too! I'll have mine in a few weeks hopefully. But this website seems to be good to go.
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I have found a potentially site to unlock the device (potentially cause I haven't tried it but seems legit). Check the OP.
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Root phone. Use region lockaway in play store. All is working fine
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rambo8987 said:
Root phone. Use region lockaway in play store. All is working fine
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Are u currently using it in at&t? And does that method go away every time u flash a new ROM?
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Has anyone tried the free unlock method that worked on the TMO S4?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2283068
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Carrier Aggregation is only enabled on AT&T S5 variant. As far as individual AT&T LTE and HSPA+ bands, they're all present on T-Mobile variant.
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Really? I had my hopes up with getting the SM-G900T and using it on AT&T. It can probably be turned on manually via QPST but will take a bit of research
I have my T-mobile Galaxy S5 that I love, but my buddy offered me his Sprint Note 3 for $175. It's in flawless condition. Now, I can root and install a custom recovery myself. The phone is bone stock right now. Will that unlock it so I can use it on T-mobile? I'm pretty sure it will.
Sprint note 3 does not have the necessary hardware to pick up T-Mobile signals. So it will not work no matter what you do in terms of unlocking. But still at 175 I'd buy it just to have a nice toy on hand
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But still at 175 I'd buy it just to have a nice toy on hand
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Yup. Or buy it and sell it if he wouldn't care.