Hello, I've got an IPPO tablet with only 512MB RAM and was wondering if there is a way to insrease the RAM like maybe telling it to use some of an SD card memory or somthing?
Thanks
Sadly, there's no way to increase RAM in Android.. Not like your desktop/ laptop... The only way is to tweak it... Minimize system apps running on it to a minimal so there will sufficient ram for you to run what you want...
Lim Wee Huat said:
Sadly, there's no way to increase RAM in Android.. Not like your desktop/ laptop... The only way is to tweak it... Minimize system apps running on it to a minimal so there will sufficient ram for you to run what you want...
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Ok, crap, then I guess I'll try this suggestion;
http://www.technodify.com/increase-internal-memory-ram-android-phone-tablet-full-guide/
Thanks anyway
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My RAM (not internal memory) usage is terrible. Out of 190MB I have 63MB free. Anyone have any ideas how I can improve it, or is this normal??
I am running CyanogenMOD 6.1 with Flykernel 12a (well check my SIG for info).
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!!
That is normal. In fact, 63MB is quite a lot, usually it'll dip to between 35-40MB.
Why are you bothered by 63MB? After all, unused RAM is wasted RAM.
skymera said:
That is normal. In fact, 63MB is quite a lot, usually it'll dip to between 35-40MB.
Why are you bothered by 63MB? After all, unused RAM is wasted RAM.
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I was under the impression it was like a computer, the more ram available, the faster it was...
Is that a wrong assumption?
RAM is fast(er) than flash memory (Which may be used for swap etc).
So loading apps into RAM is beneficial.
While having more RAM is indeed good, having more free generally isn't.
RAM is there to be used. I run CM6.1 and it manages itself fine, so you need not worry
no probs, I'll stop fretting... My Internal storage sits at about 157MB
When I free my RAM I'm getting about ~70Mb maximum but normally 35-45Mb. Remenber that's not Desire HD that's an old phone.
Android's internal memory killer will keep everything OK... There's no need for more RAM to make it faster.
In fact, using taskillers to close apps in the background actually may slow the phone, as the apps have to "reload" fully again, rather than residing in RAM. If that space is needed, it will be freed immediately
So yeah, don't worry about RAM usage whatsoever
Hello, as we know, Galaxy S1 was advertised with 512MB ram, but in real there was only ~340MB of usable RAM! So i want to ask, how much ram is usable for applications and how much is free after fresh boot? Can someone check this? You can see this informations in task manager.
I think its about 800-850 RAM.
The original SGS had 512mb of ram as advertised. For some reason people assume that their phone behaves different than their computer. The operating system and everything like that needs to use the ram as well.
AS stated though I understand the SGS2 to have approximately 850MB of ram free after running the OS etc.
If I continually hit advanced task killer it will give me about 445MB free. In the standard task manager it says /833MB.
I don't really think this is all too relevant. You will never have anywhere near the maximum amount available just as you won't in a modern PC either and with phone OS's getting more power hungry and complex this is unlikely to change.
If the amount of ram bothers you check the video of the guy doing heavy multitasking on the phone and that will clear your mind.
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kickassdave said:
If I continually hit advanced task killer it will give me about 445MB free. In the standard task manager it says /833MB.
I don't really think this is all too relevant. You will never have anywhere near the maximum amount available just as you won't in a modern PC either and with phone OS's getting more power hungry and complex this is unlikely to change.
If the amount of ram bothers you check the video of the guy doing heavy multitasking on the phone and that will clear your mind.
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Thank you for usefull information. I'm just interested in real numbers, because HTC phones have all advertised ram available to system, instead of samsung, which is cheating about this. Yes the OS is using ram... but from 833MB, not from 1gig. How can system use ram which is not visible to system? Android is linux, you can easily see how much ram is available and usable for system... it's 833 not 1gig. I believe that there is 1GB ram chip, but some memory is dedicated to other components. However 833 MB is really enough for mobile phone.
Shanakin said:
The original SGS had 512mb of ram as advertised.
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It did have 512MB of ram in hardware, but a pretty big part of the 512mb was actually dedicated video memory for 3d and movies. The Galaxy Tab 7" which was advertised with 512MB actually had ~600MB of ram in hardware, with extra ram outside the 512MB being for the dedicated video.
With the SGS2 it seems to be as the original SGS with dedicated video ram being taken out of the 1GB. It's easy enough to check by looking at the kernel config files. (And you can even tweak the numbers a bit to get a bit more free ram, as was done in the SGS)
Hope we're not heading down the old line of trying to run with loads of free RAM... I'm of the philosophy that if you have the RAM available, you should use it, rather than have to load things up from storage due to removing it to make a number bigger on a task manager...
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Thank you for usefull information. I'm just interested in real numbers, because HTC phones have all advertised ram available to system, instead of samsung, which is cheating about this. Yes the OS is using ram... but from 833MB, not from 1gig. How can system use ram which is not visible to system? Android is linux, you can easily see how much ram is available and usable for system... it's 833 not 1gig. I believe that there is 1GB ram chip, but some memory is dedicated to other components. However 833 MB is really enough for mobile phone.
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Htc does/did this as well. My Legend is advertised with 384mb ram, but only 290 is available to the system.
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Hope we're not heading down the old line of trying to run with loads of free RAM... I'm of the philosophy that if you have the RAM available, you should use it, rather than have to load things up from storage due to removing it to make a number bigger on a task manager...
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Your philosophy is absolutely correct. In Windows that might be a good thing, because it starts buffering to the HD when you run out. But Android will just close some background processes automatically to clear ram as needed.
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pulser_g2 said:
Hope we're not heading down the old line of trying to run with loads of free RAM... I'm of the philosophy that if you have the RAM available, you should use it, rather than have to load things up from storage due to removing it to make a number bigger on a task manager...
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Unfortunately people these days only know about ram management from that poor excuse of an OS called Windows.... excluding 7.
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Hope we're not heading down the old line of trying to run with loads of free RAM... I'm of the philosophy that if you have the RAM available, you should use it, rather than have to load things up from storage due to removing it to make a number bigger on a task manager...
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Agreed, as long as there is a big line between FREE RAM and TOTAL RAM. More total RAM is always a very very good thing regardless of how good the ram management is.
This thread is about total RAM available to Linux/Android, so it's good imho.
This came across my thoughts when I was doing research on dedicated RAM for system and GPU. I want to play Amazing Spiderman on my Xperia Mini but it doesn't seem to start and I believe its because of my CPU clock and my RAM. I have over 200MB of free RAM and I was wondering if there is any way I can dedicate some more to the GPU, with the use of a kernel. If there are any other method to doing so please tell me.:good::laugh:
I don't really think it's possible, but hey I'm not so into the advanced kernel developing stuff
Rage kernel but i think there is no increase in performance.
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This came across my thoughts when I was doing research on dedicated RAM for system and GPU. I want to play Amazing Spiderman on my Xperia Mini but it doesn't seem to start and I believe its because of my CPU clock and my RAM. I have over 200MB of free RAM and I was wondering if there is any way I can dedicate some more to the GPU, with the use of a kernel. If there are any other method to doing so please tell me.:good::laugh:
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Im running the game without lags on ics and panic kernel
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You can't put more RAM to GPU. It is not possible. Not even on regular PCs.
as far as i know regular pc can add more ram by running hyper memory but only if the vga card support it
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You can't put more RAM to GPU. It is not possible. Not even on regular PCs.
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Its possible to do on pc/laptop that use a gpu that is integrated on the chipset. For example, Intel hd series that share the amount of gpu memory with system ram...btw the base amount of gMemory for Intel hd series is 256mb and can go up to 1.8gb+ if I'm not mistaken.Also depends on the amount of system ram.
As for smartphone it should be able to do the same because the gpu is integrated on the chipset too...idk much about android so cant really tell
Question to the Dev's...
Is it possible to use some space from the phones internal storage or the sd card to use it as virtual ram memory? I have noticed that nobody has done something like this and i believe that for the xperia u it would be very useful because of the really small ram size.
Along with a debloated rom the phone would be very capable.
Cheers
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Question to the Dev's...
Is it possible to use some space from the phones internal storage or the sd card to use it as virtual ram memory? I have noticed that nobody has done something like this and i believe that for the xperia u it would be very useful because of the really small ram size.
Along with a debloated rom the phone would be very capable.
Cheers
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look at this thread where it was discussed that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457721
Enviado desde mi Xperia U mediante Tapatalk
Kobalto07 said:
look at this thread where it was discussed that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457721
Enviado desde mi Xperia U mediante Tapatalk
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Unfortunately, the thread doesn't really discuss how to use swap to "add" more ram on XU.
I use a swap partition on my old phone with a class10 sdcard. Since it's a really low-end phone, simple tweaks like swap show a noticeable increase in performance. For phones that have an internal sdcard, is it feasible to use swap? How about performance-wise? Do our kernels have swap support?
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Along with a debloated rom the phone would be very capable.
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Very capable of what?
Keep in mind that the guys in Google (and the guys working for Sony) are not complete retards and might know what they are doing, and if they thought there was an advatage for it they would have done it.
Virtual memory is not RAM, and the only way to add RAM is.... to add more RAM, which you cannot.
Swap file does not address performance (obviousely it reduce performance rather then increase it), it address physical limmitation(of maximum possible RAM) or cost.
Android has mechanisms to deal with low memory situations, which maybe don't seam very attractive to users that are used to 3rd generation Intel processors with 8GB of RAM, but make perfect sence for portable low power devices.
For example,
Assuming you can have 10 messages visible on screen.
In principle, messages will hold in memory only the messages that are visible on screen + a few more above and below it, so lets say 20 in memory total, and while scrolling old messages are being discarded and new ones are fetched.
Would it be faster to write the memory to a swap file when memory is needed and read them from swap when messaging is visible again, then just fetch them again when messaging are visible again after it has been killed when in background and memory was needed?
Note that a "normal" windows application may not even bother to free invisible fetched messages and rely on available memory.
Free ram is wasted ram !
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Pandemic said:
Free ram is wasted ram !
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Not accurate, unused RAM is wasted RAM.
The "free" RAM"shown in running is not realy free and usually has lots of cached processes.
Those processes are inactive and will be killed if the memory is needed by another active process, however they are still in memory and ready to run in case they are needed.
So this is ree ram that is still being used andnot wasted.
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Not accurate, unused RAM is wasted RAM.
The "free" RAM"shown in running is not realy free and usually has lots of cached processes.
Those processes are inactive and will be killed if the memory is needed by another active process, however they are still in memory and ready to run in case they are needed.
So this is ree ram that is still being used andnot wasted.
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Thats kinda accurate mate and even @nicolassp said that, but either his own opinion
But yes you have some point on that
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#PocoF1 is termed as #MasterOfSpeed but giving only 3.4gb of memory for a 6gb phone is unacceptable!Ram management of this phone is simply ordinary.
Please retweet the issue guys
Free ram is wasted RAM in an OS like android, as it becomes almost full, it will automatically clear the oldest apps so you don't need to worry about that. If you're rooted you can use ram management tweaks like changing minfree values.
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#PocoF1 is termed as #MasterOfSpeed but giving only 3.4gb of memory for a 6gb phone is unacceptable!Ram management of this phone is simply ordinary.
Please retweet the issue guys
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To run everything quick and smooth. It keeps everything in RAM to access instantly. This happens with most of the phones with 4GB + ram. Don't worry about it
Ashish M Shet said:
#PocoF1 is termed as #MasterOfSpeed but giving only 3.4gb of memory for a 6gb phone is unacceptable!Ram management of this phone is simply ordinary.
Please retweet the issue guys
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i too was puzzled why , yes free ram is wasted ram theory but i have not installed most of mine own apps yet .surprised nobody bother , what if this phone come with 4 gb ram , it would be maxed out easily
That's not how android ram management works, if you would have 4 GB of ram, the phone would load apps on background up to 2 GB. Free ram is wasted ram, miui ram management is aggressive enough already. You guys need to understand that the phone automatically closes down apps when more ram is needed.
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That's not how android ram management works, if you would have 4 GB of ram, the phone would load apps on background up to 2 GB. Free ram is wasted ram, miui ram management is aggressive enough already. You guys need to understand that the phone automatically closes down apps when more ram is needed.
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good to hear then , i have been manually closing background apps ,guess a habit , back in the day when ram was 1 gb or less, it was precious, haha