It seems like most of the users don't like touchwiz roms, everybody has an opinion about it and I am curious. Why should I and why shouldn't I move to the stock Android? Can anybody tell me the pluses and minuses of stock android?
Pluses:
CM, vanilla android, fast and beautiful
Minuses:
Unfixable bugs. Occasional glitchyness.
Theshawty said:
Pluses:
CM, vanilla android, fast and beautiful
Minuses:
Unfixable bugs. Occasional glitchyness.
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Also, people say it's more customizable, do they mean themes or mods? I couldn't find much customization for stock, where should I look?
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Also, people say it's more customizable, do they mean themes or mods? I couldn't find much customization for stock, where should I look?
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even touchwiz roms are customizable with jkay settings. but aosp or aokp roms do not have all the samsung stock features like s-voice and like so that they are very lite and are very fast. camera has some issues on aosp and aokp roms unlike stock sammy. you can find customizations in thems section. http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1567 :good:
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New owner of an SG2, which I'm liking so far. Am coming from N1 Cyanogenmod.
At present I've rooted my phone and am running the stock rom with Launcher Pro.
I'm liking a bunch of the features of the stock rom (well trying them out) and am deciding whether I keep the stock rom or move to a custom rom.
I do have a few questions about the stock rom, which I wonder can be answered here:
- With the pull down menu you have the options of wifi, bluetooth etc in the status bar. Is there anyway of changing these options (for example want to remove bluetooth).
- With the dialler, once I make a call it goes into a screen with a bunch of options, like, save contact, etc. Is there anyway of avoiding this screen and going straight to home? (incidentally you are given the option of "voice call". Is this something provided by your network or another service?)
- Autorotate. Is it possible to NOT have it working on the homescreen, but available in your apps?
In relation to custom rom, what do you guys reckon is as close to stock as possible, but with a bit more customisation. I'm guessing a custom rom would be able to deal with most of my queries.
1) majority of roms have that bar modified where you can slide it across and have upto 12 triggers, although you can't really remove them. However with cm7 and miui you can customize that bar to your hearts content.
2) no idea
3) look in the launcher pro settings, you should be able to set it there so it doesn't auto rotate
Give cm7 a try.
peachpuff said:
1) majority of roms have that bar modified where you can slide it across and have upto 12 triggers, although you can't really remove them. However with cm7 and miui you can customize that bar to your hearts content.
2) no idea
3) look in the launcher pro settings, you should be able to set it there so it doesn't auto rotate
Give cm7 a try.
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Cheers mate. Was using CM7 fine with my N1, guess just wanted to mix it up a bit. There are a bunch of features I do like about the stock rom though.
I'll run it for another week and then may give MIUI a go.
Checkout jkay mods and themes for stock roms in the theme section.
Can do basically what you want Plus more.
Also many launchers (home screens) can set whether to auto rotate. Set it to off in launcher and leave the system auto rotate on.
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Thanks, will have a play with the custom themes.
Also, I presume, if I install MIUI or Cyanogenmod, I could still install the Samsung specific apks?
browngeek said:
Thanks, will have a play with the custom themes.
Also, I presume, if I install MIUI or Cyanogenmod, I could still install the Samsung specific apks?
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No, you can not install any Samsung apps on CM. (May be you're thinking you like the stock browser so you want to use it on CM, but you can not).
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No, you can not install any Samsung apps on CM. (May be you're thinking you like the stock browser so you want to use it on CM, but you can not).
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Sorry for the newb qustions, but is this because of the ROM itself?
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No, you can not install any Samsung apps on CM. (May be you're thinking you like the stock browser so you want to use it on CM, but you can not).
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Cheers mate. I note you are using GingerMod, may give that a try as it seems to be the AOSP, with the ability to add certain TW apps.
qureyoon said:
Sorry for the newb qustions, but is this because of the ROM itself?
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Yes. CM7 and MIUI are build from scratch and doesn't contain anything related to Samsung. So unlike stcok based custom roms, these two roms doesn't support Samsung apps.
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Cheers mate. I note you are using GingerMod, may give that a try as it seems to be the AOSP, with the ability to add certain TW apps.
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Well, the reason you wanted to try is exactly the reason why so many users love GingerMod rom. It has some good apps from Samsung, like the gpu accelerated browser, camera app, fm radio. Rest 95 % is aosp.
So it's pure google experience,no Samsung bloatware, and we can still enjoy some of the real good apps Samsung made.
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Yes. CM7 and MIUI are build from scratch and doesn't contain anything related to Samsung. So unlike stcok based custom roms, these two roms doesn't support Samsung apps.
Well, the reason you wanted to try is exactly the reason why so many users love GingerMod rom. It has some good apps from Samsung, like the gpu accelerated browser, camera app, fm radio. Rest 95 % is aosp.
So it's pure google experience,no Samsung bloatware, and we can still enjoy some of the real good apps Samsung made.
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heh, would love a cyan-samsung bastard child port. If only I had the skills to do that.
Love the ability with Cyan to tweak a whole bunch of settings, but am liking quite a few of the Samsung apps.
Will look into GingerMod as it may be a good compromise.
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heh, would love a cyan-samsung bastard child port. If only I had the skills to do that.
Love the ability with Cyan to tweak a whole bunch of settings, but am liking quite a few of the Samsung apps.
Will look into GingerMod as it may be a good compromise.
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There is one more reason why i personally like GingerMod.
It is 99% (or 100%) bug free. Infact, i find it more stable than any official firmware.
Had a look around the forum and the internet but found nothing on this matter.
How would I go about getting the stock widgets for Touchwiz on another launcher, specifically trebuchet? I'm using the Paranoidandroid ROM, which lacks some of the great widgets (Flashlight, Mono Audio etc.) that touchwiz has.
Those are touchwiz elements and you cannot expect it on aosp roms, heard a few mods about porting the whole touchwiz launcher to aosp roms
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bala_gamer said:
Those are touchwiz elements and you cannot expect it on aosp roms, heard a few mods about porting the whole touchwiz launcher to aosp roms
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Is there no way at all to get widgets that do those functions on another ROM? If not, that kinda blows. I want to use something that looks nicer than touchwiz but it has SO many good features...
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Is there no way at all to get widgets that do those functions on another ROM? If not, that kinda blows. I want to use something that looks nicer than touchwiz but it has SO many good features...
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you have only one choice, either this or that
I'm currently using SuperNexus and love it. No bloat, pretty much a raw jelly bean OS. Everything works fine. The only thing I'm missing that I really wish I had, was the notification toggles. The app store has some apps that mimic the feature but none of them work the way I like,
So, can anyone tell me which ROM is as basic as SuperNexus, but with the notification toggles integrated?
Temasek's build
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1797109
I will check it out.
I'm sort of confused. A lot of ROMs say they are based off CM10. So is CM10 pretty much the pure Android OS with no extras? I can't find a feature list for CM10.
Yeah its based off AOSP, a lot roms use CM10 as a base depending on what hardware the cm10 was built for
Thanks. I will check out Temaseks in a second.
I am glad I found omega ROM v34, it's a nice try for me & I think I'm gonna stick with it..
Use CM10 for pure android experience. You can install notification toggle mod in your rom too if you only want that feature.
I'm also using SuperNexus too and is a great ROM for a pure stock android experience, I missed the notification toggles too but found this app and it does everything i want and even more check it out is called Notification Toggles
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...EsImRlLmo0dmVsaW4ubm90aWZpY2F0aW9uVG9nZ2xlIl0.
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I would suggest SlimBean! It's truly Basic AOSP with the main features needed! I am loving this ROM and no bugs with it at all. Check out their thread. It is one of my favourite ROMs ever, also they update it frequently.
I have been using SuperNexus Build 5 for a few months now: great ROM, very light and super stable.
But obviously, being AOSP-based, I miss the Samsung proprietary features (radio, better camera, etc.)
I'm wondering if there is any ROM based on Samsung stock (and therefore incorporating all the Samsung features) providing plain vanilla Android experience, just like on Google's Nexus devices, as SuperNexus does.
I've tried CodecROM, but it is still too heavily themed for my taste.
Try installing those mods on InsertCoin
Customized ROM Cleaner
4.2 Apps
JB Domination
Tried http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005845 ?
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Tried http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005845 ?
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I'll definitely give it a try.
Thanks!
FoxHound 1.6
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I have been using SuperNexus Build 5 for a few months now: great ROM, very light and super stable.
But obviously, being AOSP-based, I miss the Samsung proprietary features (radio, better camera, etc.)
I'm wondering if there is any ROM based on Samsung stock (and therefore incorporating all the Samsung features) providing plain vanilla Android experience, just like on Google's Nexus devices, as SuperNexus does.
I've tried CodecROM, but it is still too heavily themed for my taste.
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I'm using FoxHound Rising 1.6 right now since last friday and I have to say that It's really nice, provide Aroma Installer a lot o tweaks and a nice Original Android look and feel. I can use the FM radio, it brings updated google apps and all the Sammy's features that I tried until now works.
The only bug that I've found is when I tried to add an event for a contact like a birthday, the contact app got a FC.
All the rest are fine until now.
Here you can read about the features http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1708371
If you want to try it you can get it from here http://www.gearengine.it/?dl_name=http://www.gearengine.it/wordpress/FoxHound/GSIII/FoxHound_Rising_1.6_Full-Essential_JellyBean.zip.
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I have been using SuperNexus Build 5 for a few months now: great ROM, very light and super stable.
But obviously, being AOSP-based, I miss the Samsung proprietary features (radio, better camera, etc.)
I'm wondering if there is any ROM based on Samsung stock (and therefore incorporating all the Samsung features) providing plain vanilla Android experience, just like on Google's Nexus devices, as SuperNexus does.
I've tried CodecROM, but it is still too heavily themed for my taste.
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You should try ultimarom. It exactly what you are looking for. On flashing you can select which app you want and which you don't.
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Try using any of the Sammy based roms and use holo locker and holo launcher. That's what I do and I haven't looked back.
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Try using any of the Sammy based roms and use holo locker and holo launcher. That's what I do and I haven't looked back.
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but it won't change settings and other apps
rl421403 said:
You should try ultimarom. It exactly what you are looking for. On flashing you can select which app you want and which you don't.
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Wow! Tried UltimaROM v8.0 and I love it!
Thanks a lot for the suggestion! :good:
degiovab said:
Wow! Tried UltimaROM v8.0 and I love it!
Thanks a lot for the suggestion! :good:
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I had been using UltimaROM for the same reason you are.
Before UltimaROM, I tried almost all roms here but I could not find anyone that close. It's a great rom.
Right now I am trying SuperNexus 2 rom from last 2-3 days. It's very light and feels very smooth. You might want to try it if you are romholic.
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Right now I am trying SuperNexus 2 rom from last 2-3 days. It's very light and feels very smooth. You might want to try it if you are romholic.
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Indeed I tried SuperNexus 2 (since I've been using SuperNexus Build 5 for months I'm a huge fan of Faryaab's work), but the way Android 4.2.1 manages the sdcard is awful (I do not really believe multiuser is needed for a smartphone... maybe it's useful for tablets).
Overall I could not find any significant improvement with 4.2.1 so I decided to stay with 4.1.2 and UltimaROM seems to me the best 4.1.2 Samsung-stock based rom with possibility to get AOSP look and feel (and now I have radio, working camera, voice recorder, etc.).
Thanks again!
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(and now I have radio, working camera, voice recorder, etc.).
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Yep, I miss that too.
I will be re-flashing Ultima this weekend.
alternative to stock rom
I really don't like the stock look of the phone. The lockscreen is the only exception. So, I'm exactly looking to go as much as possible away from stock Samsung appearances.
I recently used UltimaRom, which I believe is one of the best I've tried so far, but the stock dialer, contacts etc menus made me go back to Resurrection Remix or ReVOLT tipe of roms. Now, because I'm new at this whole customization thing I'll put some possibly silly questions below.
Here we go:
1. Can I put stock samsung apps like radio, s memos etc, etc. on a random rom? That way to avoid changing the whole rom.
2. What is a AOKP based rom and is that the type of rom I should look for? RRemix and Revolt both are AOKP based roms and their appearance is nice, but i experience fc's with them. There two roms have different dialer, contacts and during call look that I like better that any stock rom.
3. It is possible to use Sammy-based rom and just somehow replace the terrible menus with the menus from like RR and Revolt, but keep their custom looks.
I am struggling already few weeks to find working, lite, fast rom, that will be as far as possible from samsung-based roms, but at the same time stable and reliable daily driver.
I'm am not so much into experimenting with roms, more into finding one and sticking with it from that point on. I tried a lot of roms already - RR,Revolt, MIUI, UltimaRom and others. They are all either stock but stable or pretty customized but experimental. Please give me some advice.
Thanks.
Samsung Galaxy S3 I9300
xmrenegade7 said:
Try using any of the Sammy based roms and use holo locker and holo launcher. That's what I do and I haven't looked back.
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That's not the same thing at all...
gneus said:
2. What is a AOKP based rom and is that the type of rom I should look for? RRemix and Revolt both are AOKP based roms and their appearance is nice, but i experience fc's with them. There two roms have different dialer, contacts and during call look that I like better that any stock rom.
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AOKP (android open kang project)/AOSP (android open sorce project) is base android platform. And AOKP/AOSP based roms means they use base Android platform and add some additional features from their own like adding some apps or some theme/styling. If you like vanilla android look then you should try CM10.1 because that's base of most AOSP based roms.
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1. Can I put stock samsung apps like radio, s memos etc, etc. on a random rom? That way to avoid changing the whole rom.
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Samsung phone apps will only work on samsung based roms. They will not work on other roms because samsung based apps only work with touchwiz framework (by samsung) and unless you add touchwiz framework support in other roms, apps simply will not work and you will experience FC. But there are always alternative apps available, so I don't think it's a big deal.
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3. It is possible to use Sammy-based rom and just somehow replace the terrible menus with the menus from like RR and Revolt, but keep their custom looks.
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There is also a themeing platform for Samsung based roms, it's JB DOMINATION if I am not wrong. This framework styles some general elements in samsung rom to provide feeling of AOSP platform. Rom developers used this framework and styled their rom to develop a good balance between samsung features with AOSP looks.
If you are a developer, you can try modifying any rom but if you are looking for a existing samsung rom to completely look like AOSP then you are out of luck. I don't think there is one.
As I mentioned above, if you are fond of AOSP looks then you might want to try CM10.1 rom. You will get clean android system.
I have tried many roms in past 3 months and I can only vouch for CM10.1 and SuperNexus 2. Both of these are good roms and do not include any unnecessary apps or styling. But give you great Android experience.
I'm hoping a developer can answer my question.
I'm running CM 10.1 Nightly (The latest one 31st Jan) on my SIII and it's superb.
I've started flashing the CM 10.1 ever since the first Nightly came out and have reverted back to Samsung's TouchWiz for the sake of some cool features such as the "Voice Enabled music player" and the "motion settings".
Is there any way I can add those functions to the CM 10.1 I'm running?
Thanks in advance.
well, you can't...
it needs to be ported, what's probably will not happen
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eytan123 said:
well, you can't...
it needs to be ported, what's probably will not happen
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I see...but I really loved those features on my Samsung. That's the only reason I ever went back to it.
Ahh well...I still love the CM look far better than the ****ty TouchWiz.
You can always use a 3rd party launcher or use a theme like JB Domination
Yeah but a 3rd party launcher wouldn't give him the motion settings etc.
It'll give him inly the looks that he just stated he dislikes...
he's talking about a 3rd party launcher in a Sammy-based ROM to give him an AOSP feel, alongside with the Domination theme
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he's talking about a 3rd party launcher in a Sammy-based ROM to give him an AOSP feel, alongside with the Domination theme
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Again, all I was asking for is the motion functions that are found with the stock TouchWiz and if there's a way to flash them on by keeping the CM 10.1.
I'm not talking about looks, nor themes.
All I want are the functionality that includes raising phone up to call and what not.
You were given the answer to that question. People are just trying yo help you. The only way to have that functionality is to flash a Sammy-based ROM. If you don't like TouchWiz, you can flash Domination theme and use a custom launcher, which will give you the complete AOSP feel
I tried
Glebun said:
You were given the answer to that question. People are just trying yo help you. The only way to have that functionality is to flash a Sammy-based ROM. If you don't like TouchWiz, you can flash Domination theme and use a custom launcher, which will give you the complete AOSP feel
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I tried that. The second I use a launcher it defies the point of having the "buttery" smoothness of either the stock TouchWiz or CM Rom.
Nova launcher + widget locker just made my device slow, so thanks anyway for all your help guys .