When I download a DRM free mp3 like from openbsdorg/lyricshtml, using a browser, it arrives in the Download folder. I can then see it with the included ap "Downloads". If I click on it, it plays just great.
When I sftp the same file into the Download folder with Turbo Client it shows up fine in the in the "local" view provided by that ap. I can also see other files that I previously downloaded normally (using a browser) sitting beside it.
However, when I exit the Turbo Client, and try to view the file name with the built in Downloads ap, the file name is invisible, and obviously I can't play it either.
What is the difference between the files in the two cases? Is there an additional info file parallel the mp3 data file when I use the standard download process? If I go back into Turbo Client, I can still see the file that was sftp'd into the folder. It is still there. That's why I suspect additional information needs to be stored somewhere.
Can I avoid learning a whole new operating system for what is supposed to be a consumer friendly device?
How can I create the additional information that is needed?
AustinHook said:
When I download a DRM free mp3 like from openbsdorg/lyricshtml, using a browser, it arrives in the Download folder. I can then see it with the included ap "Downloads". If I click on it, it plays just great.
When I sftp the same file into the Download folder with Turbo Client it shows up fine in the in the "local" view provided by that ap. I can also see other files that I previously downloaded normally (using a browser) sitting beside it.
However, when I exit the Turbo Client, and try to view the file name with the built in Downloads ap, the file name is invisible, and obviously I can't play it either.
What is the difference between the files in the two cases? Is there an additional info file parallel the mp3 data file when I use the standard download process? If I go back into Turbo Client, I can still see the file that was sftp'd into the folder. It is still there. That's why I suspect additional information needs to be stored somewhere.
Can I avoid learning a whole new operating system for what is supposed to be a consumer friendly device?
How can I create the additional information that is needed?
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Have you tried seeking help from the developer of Turbo Client? He seems very open to support requests according to his thread on xda (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2023646). I feel like this issue you are having is more closely related to the app you are using and not so much the device, so this forum probably is not the ideal place to pose your question.
Download vs SFTP file visibility question
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Have you tried seeking help from the developer of Turbo Client? He seems very open to support requests according to his thread on xda (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2023646). I feel like this issue you are having is more closely related to the app you are using and not so much the device, so this forum probably is not the ideal place to pose your question.
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Thanks. I have now posted on his forum as well, however, I have the feeling it is a generic issue, relating to the move to more Apple like total control of use of the device. My HTC ONE X+ is Android 4.1.1 (I should have mentioned earlier). I only resorted to sftp because I couldn't mount it as an SD drive. I am coming from an HTC Desire running Android 2.2 where I could just mount the device like a memory stick. That was nice. Now under Jelly Bean it seems there is an intent to take away user control. This is rotten. I'm not a cell phone guru. I don't want to have to learn about "rooting" the device, reflashing the ROM or whatever, I just want to use what should be a consumer friendly device, but I suspect an attempt to redefine the meaning of consumer friendly, to make us jump all kinds of hoops to get straight forward access to the data it deals with.
I'm sorry you've been having such trouble, but your skepticism regarding MTP (this has been Android's internal storage standard since ICS) is quite unfounded. An Android engineer talks about it a little more in this reddit post, but the general idea is MTP was done to make things easier, not harder, and you should most certainly still be able to access your device's storage by plugging it into your computer. You should be able to do this "out-of-the-box" so to speak, without rooting or unlocking the device. You might, however, need to install the necessary drivers for your phone. Android is all about giving the user a healthy amount of control over their device and what files come and go from it (to a certain degree), though I'm not sure I can say the same thing for HTC Sense...
edit: upon reading your post in the other thread, I think I understand your issue. The developer's response was unfortunately not terribly informative for someone who is not well-versed with Android. In order to access your mp3 files you will need to download a file browser app from the Play Store (like this one ) and navigate to your sdcard/Downloads folder.
I probably should have read your post a little more clearly, particularly where you mentioned you were trying to view the files with the Downloads app
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The answer is probably not...
What I am looking for is a freeware editor that supports common cross-platform formats like RTF or DOC and maintains hyperlinks inserted in them. The idea is to create a document on the desktop with relative links to other documents in the same directory and be able to use them when the whole directory is synced to the phone.
I don't want to use a proprietary format like OneNote, PhatNotes, ListPro etc., so that I could keep using the files when I switch phones next year, whether I go Android or stay with Windows. This also helps to keep info portable and useable across computers and platforms on the desktop. I had to switch, in the past, from ShadowPlan to PocketThinker to ListPro and moving the info to the new platform has always been a major, royal PITA. I now want to convert my existing ListPro files for the last time into format that I can use from now on without changes.
Any help is appreciated !
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The answer is probably not...
What I am looking for is a freeware editor that supports common cross-platform formats like RTF or DOC and maintains hyperlinks inserted in them. The idea is to create a document on the desktop with relative links to other documents in the same directory and be able to use them when the whole directory is synced to the phone.
I don't want to use a proprietary format like OneNote, PhatNotes, ListPro etc., so that I could keep using the files when I switch phones next year, whether I go Android or stay with Windows. This also helps to keep info portable and useable across computers and platforms on the desktop. I had to switch, in the past, from ShadowPlan to PocketThinker to ListPro and moving the info to the new platform has always been a major, royal PITA. I now want to convert my existing ListPro files for the last time into format that I can use from now on without changes.
Any help is appreciated !
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Hello,
AgileNotes Touch v3.0 test, is magnificent: http://www.agilitylab.com/
Regards,
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Hello,
AgileNotes Touch v3.0 test, is magnificent: http://www.agilitylab.com/
Regards,
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Thanks, this looks very promising. But it doesn't support hyperlinks, does it ? I will try it today.
I tried AgileNoes. It's indeed a very good application, and as far as file handling is concerned, it's superior to Pocket Word. It does however have a major flaw - there's no way to search for text in a document, at least none that I could find. So if I have a large file with multiple notes, I need to use Word to find info quickly.
Unfortunately, though, no hyperlinks...
I hope this proves useful to someone, but especially noobs like myself! I've searched high and low for a a way to access and install apps that are either restricted by country (I'm in Vancouver, BC) or by device type of and up to now was only able to find references here at XDA that involve using VPN. If the following tip is already common knowledge and I somehow overlooked it, I apologize in advance.
Yesterday I ran across this article handy applet that so far has worked flawlessly for me:
Clearly I can't post URLs yet but the applet "Real APK Leacher" can be downloaded at:
www[dot]mediafire[dot]com[slash]?5vibfddvxmh98y
No need to install anything, but just unzip the DL into any new folder and run it directly from there. It does require Java Runtime Environment 1.5.0 or later. First time the tool is launched it prompts you for a DeviceID and associated account and P/W for the device. I used the DeviceID for my Galaxy S2.
(To find the DeviceID on a phone, enter [*#*#8255#*#*] (not including the brackets), and find the lines that begin with "JID="and "DeviceID-".
When I first ran the tool, I ran a search and got no results.. Found that the trick is to enter the search term(s) and then select the "custom" radio button. I've used the tool to successfully DL and install 1) Google Currents, 2) Onlive Desktop, 3) USAA Mobile Banking, 4) HBO GO, 5) Canada Post App, 6) UPS app, 7) Fedex 8) Hulu+ 9) all Amazon apps, 10) Realtor.ca, and many others. Till now I haven't run across any app I wanted that I haven't been able to install using the tool. Hope you have as much luck as I have with it.
After downloading the APKs to your computer desktop, simply transfer to the Prime via you're method of choice and install.
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(To find the DeviceID on a phone, enter [*#*#8255#*#*] (not including the brackets), and find the lines that begin with "JID="and "DeviceID-".
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And how do you propose we do that on our tablets?
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And how do you propose we do that on our tablets?
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or use the device ID app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.redphx.deviceid&reviewId=03899096149324352534
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And how do you propose we do that on our tablets?
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I tried to be as detailed as possible in my post (it was late, I was tired, perhaps I wasn't) which is why I went to the trouble of pointing out how I used my smartphone (the GS2) to carry out the procedure myself. I certainly don't claim to know exactly how the tool works behind the scenes, but I think it most likely needs to "fool" the source it accesses to DL the requested APKs into thinking the DL request is coming from a phone rather than a tablet.
In any case, there are probably many ways in which to retrieve a DeviceID. The method I went to the trouble of describing just happens to be the only way that I know how to do so. If you know of another... GREAT... use it. If not, then well, I think anyone frequenting these forums is probably clever enough to figure out/search for other ways.
In this day and age, I don't think that there are many tablet owners out there that don't also own or have access to a phone as well. In light of this fact, I assumed (perhaps unwisely) that readers of this thread don't require the same level of handholding/specificity that less tech-savvy members of the population might.
For those who've found other work-arounds to achieve the same end and are happy with their method, well, this post isn't meant for you. For others, like me, who've been seeking a simpler way, I truly hope you find the tool as useful as I have.
Running an unknown executable from a poster with no track record...can I just give you my CC# and SSN now and simplify things?
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Running an unknown executable from a poster with no track record...can I just give you my CC# and SSN now and simplify things?
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Just googled the tool and seems it's getting quite a bit of attention; certainly not unknown. Favourable reviews/mentions from well known and respected sites. I In fact, I seems like someone here at XDA beat me to the punch in extolling its virtues ... found link to an active thread in the General Section.
While there are ways to check out executables of questionable provenance (particularly a Java applet on a PC) without endangering/in a secure environment, particularly when link to said executable comes from a noob poster such as myself, you are wise indeed to be cautious! For the adventurous among you, check it out at your own risk.
Searching on "real apk leecher" (note the correct spelling), it looks like this tool came out a week ago. It wants your email acct, password, and device ID. At least to start out.
From the screenshot, the apparent dev, Nhat Cuong Mobile, is a Vietnamese outfit with website here: http://nhatcuong.vn/. However, it's a mobile phone sales & repair site, and I can't find any info on software development (I can speak Viet).
If you do try this out, be extremely wary.
If you're rooted try Market Enabler (in the market), change to code to whatever network in whatever country, force close the market app (drag it to App info, and force close from there), then open it again, and voila Access to all the apps you couldn't access before.
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If you're rooted try Market Enabler (in the market), change to code to whatever network in whatever country, force close the market app (drag it to App info, and force close from there), then open it again, and voila Access to all the apps you couldn't access before.
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Will the Market Enabler app also open apps that are device specific? I. E., phone-only apps for tablets?
Hey !
I've searched the web as well as the forum but i didn't find any solution and it seems i'm not the only one wanting to do that.
Is it possible to see hidden folders of internal sdcard through MTP ?
I really talk about hidden folder like ".android_secure", not the photos that aren't yet scanned by the media scanner service.
In my windows environment i already set the view all hidden files/folders as well as view system files.
If i have to change folders permissions through terminal what are the correct permissions i should put ?
Thanks for the help !!
Am i the only having that problem ?
Do you guys see the hidden folders through mtp connexion ?
If you'd bother reading a bit before asking questions, you might have the answer already.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Transfer_Protocol
MTP and PTP specifically overcome this issue by making the unit of managed storage a local file rather than an entire (possibly very large) unit of mass storage at the block level. In this way, MTP works like a transactional file system - either the entire file is written/read or nothing.
More or less, it is designed to keep hidden what should be hidden stick to USB storage or FTP/SCP.
PS: can't believe we're using a transfer protocol designed by Microsoft in a Linux-based system mastered by Google. The horror, the pain... no wonder it doesn't work on my Mac!
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If you'd bother reading a bit before asking questions, you might have the answer already.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Transfer_Protocol
MTP and PTP specifically overcome this issue by making the unit of managed storage a local file rather than an entire (possibly very large) unit of mass storage at the block level. In this way, MTP works like a transactional file system - either the entire file is written/read or nothing.
More or less, it is designed to keep hidden what should be hidden stick to USB storage or FTP/SCP.
PS: can't believe we're using a transfer protocol designed by Microsoft in a Linux-based system mastered by Google. The horror, the pain... no wonder it doesn't work on my Mac!
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Thx for the link ! I knew what mtp is but its always good to refresh things up
I read the whole article and unfortunately it doesn't answer my question.
I understood that its the same for all of us meaning that we are not able to see hidden folders.
But the main question is if there is a way to bypass this behavior ? Where is this defined exactly ?
It seems according to the article that its not on the file permission layer ? Should it be at partition level ? How can mtp know what to share with the host ?
It's not a "behaviour" per se, but more/less a database. Remember that media scanner program which wakes up every time you change something on your SD card, be it internal or external ? it simply keeps a "database" of files which are presented to the MTP client (your computer) and hides away the phone's internal folders which are not supposed to be seen by the end-user.
Theoretically, this is done in order to have the iPhone-like behaviour: seeing the entire device memory as one big unified storage which you can fill as you want (no more of those partition size limitations which brought us the app2sd hacks). In my opinion, it's more or less just a small step done in order to "secure" phones for DRM protected content.
Studios and media companies require devices to have such measures of protection in order to allow you to sell media content (like movies, books, etc) and since Google wants to push its business further with the Play Store, it needs to cave in to the studios' demands. In the future, it will probably even become illegal (DMCA-style) for me to give you the information below
Back to the technical part of our show now.
At the first boot in the life of the device, Media Scanner will look under /system/media and index everything there. After that, it will scan everything under /mnt/sdcard (hence your external SD card too, if you have one, as it's mounted under /mnt/sdcard/external_sd). On some devices, you have an "internal.db" file and one "external-123xyz.db" file; that's a unique ID of the SD card which was scanned. The idea here is you might have 2-3 SD cards which you swap often, and it's not nice to do a full rescan each time you change the SD card. These databases are in /dbdata/databases/com.android.providers.media (on my phone, there is only one "external.db" for example).
So what you're looking for is a way to populate this database with all the files found by the Media Scanner. But Media Scanner doesn't want you to see the hidden folders you mentioned above. So, you get an application which doesn't ignore them, like Rescan SD Card! or SDrescan.
Happy now ?
Thank you very much i really enjoyed reading the explanation as it answers completely my questions and it makes sense !
Ill give a try to the apps but i'm also curious to investigate on those files
Cheers
PS. Is this a disguised way to support non open source protocols ?
Well, you could poke around inside the database with sqlite if you want. But don't really see what's so interesting about them.
It is just another protocol which is supported, which happens to be designed by Microsoft (and probably licensed/paid by Google to be used in Android). I understand the technical explanation behind this decision, but I'm also wary that someday UMS will be disabled by default and enabling it will disable content purchasing for that device (just like having a rooted phone now disables some "sensitive" apps, like banking and online TV).
As a system admin its interesting to know whats happening on my system
As a hobby its interesting for my personal knowledge
And from a development point of view it gives me some ideas for maybe future apps
You say that its just another protocol which is supported but to my understanding there are not so many of them ! So i would say that Google was kind of forced to use the MTP method, first from a hardware point of view and second to be compliant with the rest of the world.
Is there any other protocol that could suite their needs ? Since USB mass storage is not usable on some devices and MTP is well spead.
.HiddenAndroid folders in Win - Here Yesterday, Gone Tomorrow
<Win 7 and GN2>
What's curious and a bit frustrating to me is that, yesterday, when I mounted my device ALL of the hidden (.folders and .files) were visible and searchable. Today, when I went to explore some more, all are gone. I understand that I can use a 3rd party app, just can't figure out why it was visible yesterday and not today.
Hmmph
Did you ever resolve this issue? I really hate MTP for several reasons but this is one of the reasons why! I need to back up all my directories on the SDCard because some apps store them as hidden files in hidden directories. Furthermore, I came across the Play Store bug that requires me to delete a "temp.asec" file in the ".android_secure" directory, but of course it is not visible.
In a post further up it was suggested to use a "Rescan" app to force the DB to include hidden files/directories, but I have tried no less than 4 of these apps, and all they do is trigger the built-in android media scan, which is the problem in the first place!
So has anyone ever been able to access hidden files and directories using MTP?
EDIT: I have an HTC phone that actually shows hidden files and directories, so they have obviously implemented their own media scan. The problem I am currently having is on a Samsung phone (Epic 4G touch)
It may depend on the implementation. For example, using stock rom for the phone doesn't show some files and folders, for example folders starting with dot. But if you use Neatrom Lite it will show all files and folders.
Flash forward about 6 years and Samsung still does not show hidden folders/files when viewing the phone contents in Windows File Explorer, but HTC does.
The reason this is still a problem for me, is that I want to backup the contents of a particular directory (WhatsApp) which contains some hidden folders, so I can restore it anytime on a new phone or the same phone.
I recently switched from HTC to Samsung and alas, it seems the problem with this implementation still exists. Anyone found a workaround to this to allow File Explorer to see the hidden folders?
Update: It appears that hidden .nomedia files (and probably others) appear under regular folders, so the problem is limited to hidden folders themselves
does anyone know how to share a folder with only certain android users on my network?
I can find info to do it with two windows machines. from what i understand you have to create the user name of the viewing machine in the computer that hosts the folder. but how would I do that with an androd device.
when I right click computer/manage/shared folders/shares.
then right click a folder/properties/share permissions/add/advanced/find now.
i get a list of user types but i have no idea how to add just one android device or what to type in as the name
I have tried using the name of my phone on an evo 3d i went to settings/about phone/phone identity. but i figured that wouldnt work anyway.
I have no idea about winbugs share tool, but an easy way is to use Dropbox to store the folder. Then, you can install the app and log in using the same user and password on several devices.
that is a good way to share. but is not a ideal for large files or streaming over my network.
I'm looking for an app that will allow me to encrypt folders (preferably without having to go through a third-party file manager) on my Galaxy Note 2 and Nexus 7, while possibly being able to also decrypt and view the folder/files on a Windows or Mac machine.
BoxCryptor is one that I've looked into but I'm not sure if it will allow me to encrypt folders within folders.
A little bit of background for what I need this for... I'm a medical health professional and there are times when I have sensitive data about some of my patients that I need to access via my phone/tablet/home/work computer. I don't necessarily need the folder of patient data to sync across all devices but if that could be done (say via DropBox or WebDAV, encrypted), that would be a bonus.
There are some apps on Google Play that seem like they might work:
Encryption Manager
Safe+
DroidCrypt
If anyone has any feedback on any of the above, or can recommend an app that I've missed (or a link to another xda post that I missed in my searches), that would be much appreciated. I'd rather not have to pay for each one to see if it fits my criteria.
Thanks in advance!
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I'm looking for an app that will allow me to encrypt folders (preferably without having to go through a third-party file manager) on my Galaxy Note 2 and Nexus 7, while possibly being able to also decrypt and view the folder/files on a Windows or Mac machine.
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A little bit of background for what I need this for... I'm a medical health professional and there are times when I have sensitive data about some of my patients that I need to access via my phone/tablet/home/work computer. I don't necessarily need the folder of patient data to sync across all devices but if that could be done (say via DropBox or WebDAV, encrypted), that would be a bonus.
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@cdnmaplechick, did you have any luck with all this? EDS is another one you could try, but I'm not sure if it can do what you want without rooting your device. If you are comfortable rooting your device Cryptonite is an additional option.
If I understand you correctly I am also looking for something similar (which is how I ended up finding your post). I'd like an app that can encrypt specified folders such that other apps can interact with the contained encrypted files without any trouble (this would be very analogous to how TrueCrypt works for Windows computers). I know there is full device encryption available for Android, but that has its drawbacks. I think what you and I are both wanting is something like full device encryption, but being able to limit it to a few designated folders.
I'd love to hear anything you're willing to share about your experiences (positive or negative) with pursuing all this!
Edit: Forgot to mention a secure syncing service you might be interested in: SpiderOak. I have not yet used their Android app, but I use SpiderOak for Windows all the time to securely sync sensitive data between multiple Windows computers (the data is stored in TrueCrypt volumes on each computer).
Apparently this works with Truecrypt so it will work when you transfer it to a Mac or PC
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sovworks.eds.android
Droidcrypt should do entire folders, but has a lot of neg reviews. Personally I wouldn't use any closed source encryption app you have no idea if they're actually generating true random numbers or if it's junk software.
LUKS is free and open source, if your phone is rooted
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nemesis2.luksmanager you can just copy folders into the virtual encrypted folder it creates.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mrpdaemon.android.encdroid is open source, free and works with dropbox
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup Carbon now uses encrypted backup
There's also APG http://thialfihar.org/projects/apg/
You can use PGP to encrypt/decrypt files (perhaps folders?) for transferring to another computer. Or if both your Nexus and your PC/Mac is using full disc encryption then you can just transfer the folders to each other in the clear with USB.
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Droidcrypt should do entire folders, but has a lot of neg reviews. Personally I wouldn't use any closed source encryption app you have no idea if they're actually generating true random numbers or if it's junk software.
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Yeah, I've felt ambivalent about Droidcrypt. It should do what I want but they feel like such an unknown; they don't even have a website (not that that would make them automatically safer, but I'd at least be able to get a little more of sense of who I'm trusting my data to).
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mrpdaemon.android.encdroid is open source, free and works with dropbox
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Thanks for those additional links, and especially for Encdroid! I'm a fan of open source, and it looks like the author's on the XDA forums:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1917665
I definitely want to check that one out further.
How about Cryptonite? https://code.google.com/p/cryptonite/ It says it uses TrueCrypt.
Yes cryptonite seems to be a good solution.
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Hello friends
Is an application for Android that folders can be encrypted and password-access to that folder wherever necessary, same encryption on the kms 9(Kaspersky Mobile Security 9 v9.4.96 – S60v3)