I need a little help. I unlocked the bootloader, rooted my phone, made TWRP my recovery, and got s-off. I did not flash a custom ROM. Now though, there is an update for my phone. I want to update it to the latest via OTA and remain on the stock ROM until 4.2.2 comes out. It is my understanding that I may need to run an RUU since I have TWRP as my recovery. This is where I'm a little confused.
1) Which RUU do I select? (I currently have the stock T-Mobile US build version 1.27.531.7 CL170484 release-keys if that helps)
2) Afterr I flash the RUU, do I need to perform s -on and re-lock the bootloader prior to performing the OTA update?
3) Am I missing any major steps?
4) Would it be better to just use a custom ROM like Android Revolution rather than trying to revert back to stock, etc?
Thanks for any and all input.
bloodbath said:
I need a little help. I unlocked the bootloader, rooted my phone, made TWRP my recovery, and got s-off. I did not flash a custom ROM. Now though, there is an update for my phone. I want to update it to the latest via OTA and remain on the stock ROM until 4.2.2 comes out. It is my understanding that I may need to run an RUU since I have TWRP as my recovery. This is where I'm a little confused.
1) Which RUU do I select? (I currently have the stock T-Mobile US build version 1.27.531.7 CL170484 release-keys if that helps)
2) Afterr I flash the RUU, do I need to perform s -on and re-lock the bootloader prior to performing the OTA update?
3) Am I missing any major steps?
4) Would it be better to just use a custom ROM like Android Revolution rather than trying to revert back to stock, etc?
Thanks for any and all input.
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you need to flash the original recovery to install ota updates,, you will lose root access doing so
Or wait until some package it into a ZIP file and flash using TWRP.
Right?
Just wait a week.
All you need to do is put the stock Tmo recovery on your one. Then go update with ota and you will still be unlocked but you do lose root.
So it seems like there is disagreement to whether the stock ROM causes you to lose root or not. Either way, I would need to "lock" the bootloader again right?
Does the update add anything really worth having? I'm thinking that ARHD would be the best bet until an RUU comes out.
bloodbath said:
So it seems like there is disagreement to whether the stock ROM causes you to lose root or not. Either way, I would need to "lock" the bootloader again right?
Does the update add anything really worth having? I'm thinking that ARHD would be the best bet until an RUU comes out.
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I'm sorry I was wrong you will lose root after you update ota. But you can do ota while being unlocked so no need to relock bootloader just flash the stock Tmo recovery and update.
chong67 said:
Or wait until some package it into a ZIP file and flash using TWRP.
Right?
Just wait a week.
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U mean something like this!? https://copy.com/aSLnP
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Hi,
Now that ROMs are starting to come out for the Prime. The only thing that I would need if I was to unlock the bootloader and install a recovery is the capability to flash back to stock (Yes I know that the bootloader will still be unlocked).
So is it possible to flash a stock rom or ota using clockwork mod recovery?
boomtopper said:
Hi,
Now that ROMs are starting to come out for the Prime. The only thing that I would need if I was to unlock the bootloader and install a recovery is the capability to flash back to stock (Yes I know that the bootloader will still be unlocked).
So is it possible to flash a stock rom or ota using clockwork mod recovery?
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No, you cannot restore a stock Asus-provided update. It will, apparently, brick your Prime.
However, given that the first thing anyone would/should do is take a nandroid backup, you can always restore that and be back on your stock ROM.
Will it be ever possible to flash stock so that we can get the latest updates still? Or is this a techical impossibility due to the way asus apply their OTA's?
boomtopper said:
Will it be ever possible to flash stock so that we can get the latest updates still? Or is this a techical impossibility due to the way asus apply their OTA's?
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No. That is one of the things explicitly states in the waiver you have to agree to in order to unlock the bootloader.
From the bootloader unlock terms:
" the software of Revised Product will no longer be deemed the software of the Original Product and can no longer receive ASUS software updates"
Yes I had read and understood that part but I was alluding to whether the community could work out a way or whether it's completely impossible?
Well someone will put up a stock zip you can flash which is just a different way of getting the stock ROM. Usually it takes a few days for one to show up after an ota though. There is a stock .15 zip in development now. You'll still have root.
Thanks.
I've found the thread about the stock .15 which is installable with unlocked bootloaders.
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Im in stock 4.1.2 whit S-OFF, unlocked bootloader (1.55) and then RELOCKED.
¿Can i take the last OTA?
Im not rooted, and i dont have custom recoverys (i recently flashed a RUU.zip to return to stock, but i could not remove the S-OFF and RELOCKED status because the hboot 1.55).
I have economic (health) problems and I'll really need to sell my phone, but I'm afraid that the new owner will come out error when trying to update.
conquesoextra said:
Im in stock 4.1.2 whit S-OFF, unlocked bootloader (1.55) and then RELOCKED.
¿Can i take the last OTA?
Im not rooted, and i dont have custom recoverys (i recently flashed a RUU.zip to return to stock, but i could not remove the S-OFF and RELOCKED status because the hboot 1.55).
I have economic (health) problems and I'll really need to sell my phone, but I'm afraid that the new owner will come out error when trying to update.
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Yes. You can get OTAs while S-OFF. And assuming you haven't unlocked the bootloader since flashing the RUU, all the system files it verifies should be in place to accept OTAs. However, considering you are currently on 4.1.2, you'll need to run through a progression of OTAs to get up to the latest version, 4.4.2 w/ Sense 6. Might be better to just run the latest RUU to bring it up to 4.4.2 w/ Sense 5.5 then OTA to Sense 6. Be aware that you'll need to be on the AT&T network in order to get the updates OTA. If you're not on AT&T, you'll need to flash the updates manually, in which case you'll need to be S_OFF.
Also, once the phone is S-OFF there is no good reason to change that back to S-ON. There's the potential of bricking the phone by doing so. And even if it doesn't brick, the updates in firmware may make it more difficult to obtain S-OFF again.
Thank you very much.
At the begining i did this:
1- Unlocked bootloader and flashed TWRP.
2- Root
3- Gained S-Off
When i decide to sell it i did this:
1- Removed xposed and root.
2 - Relocked bootloader.
3 - Flashed RUU.zip (4.1.2)
¿What do you mean whit AT&T network? I unlocked the phone vía imei (using it in mexico whit Telcel) and still have the update appearing.
Sorry for my terrible english
conquesoextra said:
Thank you very much.
At the begining i did this:
1- Unlocked bootloader and flashed TWRP.
2- Root
3- Gained S-Off
When i decide to sell it i did this:
1- Removed xposed and root.
2 - Relocked bootloader.
3 - Flashed RUU.zip (4.1.2)
¿What do you mean whit AT&T network? I unlocked the phone vía imei (using it in mexico whit Telcel) and still have the update appearing.
Sorry for my terrible english
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First off, since you are S-OFF there is no need to relock the bootloader in order to flash an RUU. It will run just fine with an unlocked bootloader. Also when you flash an RUU, all the partitions get wiped so there is no need to do anything within the ROM such as remove xposed & root prior to flashing. The RUU will set the device essentially in a factory state.
As far as I understand it, the OTAs for carrier specific devices are served up by the carrier. So if the phone has been SIM unlocked and is being used on another network, if you go into Settings>AT&T software update, it will not receive any available OTA update. You will need to flash the update file manually using the information in this thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2659374.
Since you are still on 4.1.2, you will need to run one of the recent RUUs in order to manually flash the OTA updates in that thread. The latest RUU available for AT&T devices is KK4.4.2 w/Sense 5.5.
http://androidruu.com/getdownload.p...09_10.26.1718.01L_release_356565_signed_2.exe
Flash that then you can manually flash the OTA update to get Sense 6.
You are the man.
THANK YOU SO MUCH!
I'm trying to return my HTC One back to being unrooted because I wanna update it and almost everywhere I read, you need to unroot to get over the air updates. So I got S-Off and I relocked my bootloader, but whenever I try running the RUU, it always fails. I tried flashing it and I tried running the exe file. Why does it keep failing? Also, is it true you can't get OTA updates while being rooted? The RUU I use is for Cingular (which from my understanding is the one AT&T uses) and I have Super CID. Lastly, if anyone knows an easier way to return my phone to being completely stock and unrooted that would be great. Thanks in advance!
Which RUU did you use? Apparently the last official one was JB 4.3 w/ Sense 5.0, ver. 3.17.502.3. The one for KK4.4.2 w/ Sense 5.0, ver. 4.18.502.7 was apparently not actually released by ATT and many people were having problems with it.
clsA said:
Well near as I can tell the RUU did not originate from HTC, someone was able to create it and sign it same as HTC would. But the files behave differently than the "Real" HTC RUU. The only solution I found was to use the True HTC RUU from 3.xx.502.x and OTA to 4.xx.502.x to 5.xx.502.x. It requires s-off to flash the OTA's so it's not the perfect solution for everyone.
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So if you tried with the KK4.4.2 RUU, download the JB4.3 RUU from http://www.htc1guru.com/. Since you're S-OFF, you can use either the .exe or the decrypted .zip. I used the decrypted .zip before and it worked fine. Once you get that flashed you can then take the OTAs to update to KK4.4.2 w/ Sense 6. You'll need to be on the AT&T network to get those OTA. Otherwise you'll need to manually flash the updates, as clsA states in his post that I quoted above.
As for not getting OTAs while being rooted....
It's not so much that being rooted prevents getting OTAs. It's the process of getting to root that modifies or deletes system files that need to be intact for the OTA to work. OTA need to be installed through stock recovery. If you're rooted, it's most likely that you have a custom recovery. Also, unlocking the bootloader deletes some files the OTA checks for. If those files not there, the OTA will not install.
Flashing an RUU is the easiest way to get completely stock. It resets the phone to an out-of-the-box state. Whereas a factory reset done from bootloader or recovery basically just wipes the data partition, which will remove any apps you installed and user data. But any modifications to the system partition that are done remain. You don't get back the files that are deleted when you unlocked the bootloader.
Also, since you are S-OFF, there's no need to relock your bootloader to run an RUU. That's only required if you're S-ON. And once you get S-OFF, there is no reason to go back to S-ON.
Since I just want to get the new OTA update, do you recommend I just flash the update as opposed to going back to stock recovery because I don't mind having a rooted phone? Also, my phones camera suddenly became blurry, is it possible that the rooting had something to do with it? If it did, would flashing the OTA update fix it or would I need to go back to stock recovery or would neither fix it? Sorry for so many questions.
First off, what version is currently on your phone? Depending on where you're currently at you may need to flash more than one update in order to get it to the latest version. And no matter what, you'll need to flash stock recovery in order for the updates to flash. OTA updates, whether taken OTA or flashed manually, require stock recovery, as I mentioned before. Also, again as I mentioned before, the process of rooting your phone (more specifically, the process of unlocking your bootloader) most likely deleted files from your system partition that need to be in place in order for the OTA updates to install. If they are not there, the update will fail. So to answer your question...No, I don't recommend "just flash the update as opposed to going back to stock recovery". It won't work.
Since you didn't answer my question and state which RUU you tried, I don't know if you tried a bad 4.4.2 RUU or if there are other issues with your device and/or computer that's preventing any RUU from installing. If you just don't want to flash the RUU, then you can try flashing the update in the phone's current state and when it fails, you can analyze the error report, try to track down stock versions of the files you're missing and restore them if you find them, then try the update again, hoping you found everything. That's a lot more of a hassle than just flashing the RUU, flashing the updates, rooting, and setting up your phone.
Another option is to just flash a custom ROM. Most of them will bring the phone up to the latest version. Some will even take it higher than what is officially available from AT&T.
As for your camera problem, can't see how just rooting would cause that, but maybe it did. Without knowing the cause of the issue, I can't say if just flashing the OTA would fix it. If it's a software issue, then possibly it would. If it's a hardware issue, then probably not. Focus on updating the phone and worry about the camera issue if it still persists once updated.
Sorry, I forgot about your question. First of all, I got it working using RUU Zip M7 UL JB43 SENSE50 MR Cingular US 3.17.502.3-decrypted. The one that didn't work for me is RUU Zip M7 UL JB 50 Cingular - 1.26.502.12. Second, I am running 4.4.2. Thats for anyone who comes across this and was wondering. Thanks for your help sharksfan7. Also, in case you were wondering, my camera is still blurry, but I'll start a different thread for that.
My phone is currently Rooted with TWRP installed, and im running gpe 4.4.4 stock rooted rom from the android development forums. Now, considering im s-on and have no computer at home at the moment, I was trying to figure out a way to update my firmware so that i can test out and flash one of these new lollipop roms. If I flash using twrp an at&t stock rom such as "Stock AT&T 1.58 Deodexed" from the AT&T forum,
1. Will I receive an OTA from at&T
2. Is it safe to accept the OTA
3. Will it update the firmware properly, so that i may flash a lollipop firmware.
My guess is that the answer to #2 will probably be a no. My phone is originally an at&t device btw.
Thanks for any help.
Most OTA's will fail simply cause you have a custom recovery.
If you can afford $25 just gain S-OFF using "Sunshine"
You need to be on stock ROM and stock recovery to install an OTA. Root is okay, and bootloader unlocked is okay ("okay" meaning the OTA will install, but you will lose root).
The stock ROM is normally odexed, so I don't think the deodexed will qualify as "stock" enough to allow the OTA to install (I'm thinking NO). The fastest way to return to stock ROM and recovery is probably by RUU (relock bootloader required for RUU).
Not sure what you mean by "safe" but as long as you meet the above conditions you will be able to receive and install OTAs. You will lose root as mentioned (but can easily just re-install custom recovery and root again). And your data should remain intact; although you should always backup important personal data, anyway.
But be aware there is currently no AT&T OTA that will update you to the current (3.x) firmware required for LP custom ROMs. The OTA for 4.4.4 is rumored for Dec. 29, but its already been delayed twice.
If you don't want to s-off, you will have to wait until 4.4.4 rolls out (to update the firmware). Or just s-off by sunshine and be done with it.
I'm kind of new to rooting and flashing. But I was wondering how can I update my rooted at&t m8 4.4.4 (s-on) to the new lollipop update and stay rooted? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
natec806 said:
I'm kind of new to rooting and flashing. But I was wondering how can I update my rooted at&t m8 4.4.4 (s-on) to the new lollipop update and stay rooted? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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In short, you can't (update by official means and stay rooted). But its pretty easy to update, then just root again.
Couple options:
1) To OTA, you need stock ROM and stock recovery. Stock ROM means root is okay, but no system files can be missing or altered by you using the root permission (such as removing bloatware, frozen apps, added apps, etc.). You either need to put them back to stock, or revert to a stock nandroid of flash the stock 4.4.4 AT&T ROM. Then you need to find the stock recovery, flash it to the phone. At that time you can go into setting and look for the update. Unlocked bootloader is okay to OTA.
After the LP OTA installs, flash TWRP back to the phone and flash latest SuperSU to root again.
2) Another way, is to relock the bootloader and install the Lollipop RUU with your phone connected to a PC. RUU will then just update the phone to a stock LP image. This method is probably easier than tracking down the stock ROM and recovery, and getting them back on the phone. But the downside is that your data will be wiped by the RUU. Plus you have the added steps of relocking the bootloader; than unlocking again after the RUU. But I like RUU better as its a cleaner install than OTA and keeping user data (eliminates chance of random bugs caused by migrating user data).
After RUU, just flash TWRP and root again, same is the last part of method #1 above.
Thanks redpoint73. Worked liked a charm
Redpoint -
I used the RUU to update, and now I can't get the SU Binary to update.
I think my backup of the app is messing things up. I installed the latest via zip file (TWRP), and am not really rooted yet.
I'm trying a clean install (wiped cache, dalvik), so I'll see if I can get rid of the original SU app I had installed (chainfire).
Edit: Still can't get rid of SU app.
Any ideas?
DanGeorges said:
I think my backup of the app is messing things up. I installed the latest via zip file (TWRP), and am not really rooted yet.
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Latest being what number? I would suggest SuperSU 2.46.
redpoint73 said:
Latest being what number? I would suggest SuperSU 2.46.
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That was, indeed, my problem. I was being directed to an older version of SuperSU update.zip.
Once i grabbed the REAL latest version, it worked like a charm!
Thanks, Redpoint.
redpoint73 said:
In short, you can't (update by official means and stay rooted). But its pretty easy to update, then just root again.
Couple options:
1) To OTA, you need stock ROM and stock recovery. Stock ROM means root is okay, but no system files can be missing or altered by you using the root permission (such as removing bloatware, frozen apps, added apps, etc.). You either need to put them back to stock, or revert to a stock nandroid of flash the stock 4.4.4 AT&T ROM. Then you need to find the stock recovery, flash it to the phone. At that time you can go into setting and look for the update. Unlocked bootloader is okay to OTA.
After the LP OTA installs, flash TWRP back to the phone and flash latest SuperSU to root again.
2) Another way, is to relock the bootloader and install the Lollipop RUU with your phone connected to a PC. RUU will then just update the phone to a stock LP image. This method is probably easier than tracking down the stock ROM and recovery, and getting them back on the phone. But the downside is that your data will be wiped by the RUU. Plus you have the added steps of relocking the bootloader; than unlocking again after the RUU. But I like RUU better as its a cleaner install than OTA and keeping user data (eliminates chance of random bugs caused by migrating user data).
After RUU, just flash TWRP and root again, same is the last part of method #1 above.
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What is required to run a RUU? I'm completely stock 4.4.4
redpoint73 said:
In short, you can't (update by official means and stay rooted). But its pretty easy to update, then just root again.
Couple options:
1) To OTA, you need stock ROM and stock recovery. Stock ROM means root is okay, but no system files can be missing or altered by you using the root permission (such as removing bloatware, frozen apps, added apps, etc.). You either need to put them back to stock, or revert to a stock nandroid of flash the stock 4.4.4 AT&T ROM. Then you need to find the stock recovery, flash it to the phone. At that time you can go into setting and look for the update. Unlocked bootloader is okay to OTA.
After the LP OTA installs, flash TWRP back to the phone and flash latest SuperSU to root again.
2) Another way, is to relock the bootloader and install the Lollipop RUU with your phone connected to a PC. RUU will then just update the phone to a stock LP image. This method is probably easier than tracking down the stock ROM and recovery, and getting them back on the phone. But the downside is that your data will be wiped by the RUU. Plus you have the added steps of relocking the bootloader; than unlocking again after the RUU. But I like RUU better as its a cleaner install than OTA and keeping user data (eliminates chance of random bugs caused by migrating user data).
After RUU, just flash TWRP and root again, same is the last part of method #1 above.
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Would this work if i am living out side the US? i do have an AT&T simcard but still not connected to their network!
polar2792 said:
What is required to run a RUU? I'm completely stock 4.4.4
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Backup your personal data (RUU will wipe the phone), and own a PC. That's it. RUU is intended to be run on a stock device, so nothing special is required.
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Boudjelal said:
Would this work if i am living out side the US? i do have an AT&T simcard but still not connected to their network!
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Are you saying you are still using your AT&T account while living in a foreign country? In that case, you will usually not get the OTA. I think there are a few exceptions, such as roaming in Mexico or Caribbean areas. But otherwise, not OTA.
The RUU method noted above will work anywhere.