Hi there.
I've just bought a XTZ LTE and have been wondering if installing Cyanogenmod would make it possible to call from it?
I love how it is now, but I would prefer if I could make/recieve phonecalls too.
It's either Cyanogenmod or Skype. Would prefer to keep my old number and not pay 2 phone bills.
Minarch said:
Hi there.
I've just bought a XTZ LTE and have been wondering if installing Cyanogenmod would make it possible to call from it?
I love how it is now, but I would prefer if I could make/recieve phonecalls too.
It's either Cyanogenmod or Skype. Would prefer to keep my old number and not pay 2 phone bills.
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I would also like to know if this is possible?
Unless you guys are in Japan, which is the only country in the world so far where carriers have implemented voice calling over LTE, rather than GSM or CDMA - the rom you run on your XTZ isn't going to make any difference because to make regular phone calls over GSM or CDMA you need to have the actual hardware radio for that and this tablet doesn't have it.
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Unless you guys are in Japan, which is the only country in the world so far where carriers have implemented voice calling over LTE, rather than GSM or CDMA - the rom you run on your XTZ isn't going to make any difference because to make regular phone calls over GSM or CDMA you need to have the actual hardware radio for that and this tablet doesn't have it.
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But the SGP321 supports both GSM and WCDMA in addition to LTE, so that's not really helpful. There is however the question of whether the modem itself supports voice over GSM/WCDMA as the radio could be either the same or similar to the one in the Xperia Z phone.
Djhg2000 said:
But the SGP321 supports both GSM and WCDMA in addition to LTE, so that's not really helpful. There is however the question of whether the modem itself supports voice over GSM/WCDMA as the radio could be either the same or similar to the one in the Xperia Z phone.
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WCDMA is just an alternative name for UMTS. It's a 3G data connection protocol. AFAIK no carrier in the world uses that for voice calls.I was not aware LTE version of XTZ had GSM radio, but I checked online and it turns out to be true. Therefore, it's possible to modify XTZ LTE firmware to unlock voice calling, but I doubt very much Cyanogenmod did it. It would have been big news and would have been all over tech blogs and it also would have been listed in CM nightlies changelog for XTZ LTE: http://10.1.cmxlog.com/?device=pollux
Thank you for answering.
I found a different approach.
First I tried Skype. Payed for a number and everything but found out that Skype doesn't support recieving SMS.
So now I've ordered a 4G-subscription to my XTZ.
Using my old Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 3G with my current subscription I can send all calls and texts to my XTZ through the app: Tablet Talk.
That way I can make and recieve calls on my XTZ through my Galaxy Tab 2 without problem.
There might be around ~400 ms lag on calls if they aren't on the same network, but I can live with that.
Minarch said:
Thank you for answering.
I found a different approach.
First I tried Skype. Payed for a number and everything but found out that Skype doesn't support recieving SMS.
So now I've ordered a 4G-subscription to my XTZ.
Using my old Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 3G with my current subscription I can send all calls and texts to my XTZ through the app: Tablet Talk.
That way I can make and recieve calls on my XTZ through my Galaxy Tab 2 without problem.
There might be around ~400 ms lag on calls if they aren't on the same network, but I can live with that.
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Are you sure on this? I'm pretty sure there is no app or rom that will allow you to send/receive voice to another device for use with a GSM call.
I think tablet talk just allows you to control calls from a tablet device and send them to a bluetooth headset but won't actually let you use the tablet as if it were a blutetooth headset (bluetooth profiles are missing/not supported in android I believe)
Does that make any sense?
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Are you sure on this? I'm pretty sure there is no app or rom that will allow you to send/receive voice to another device for use with a GSM call.
I think tablet talk just allows you to control calls from a tablet device and send them to a bluetooth headset but won't actually let you use the tablet as if it were a blutetooth headset (bluetooth profiles are missing/not supported in android I believe)
Does that make any sense?
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After hours of research I found you that you're right.
So I've forwarded calls to my Skype-number.
Much easier.
I can tell you that on my new SGP321 I am able to send/recieve SMS - I only realised because EE sent me a message to welcome me to the network.
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NEUR0M4NCER said:
I can tell you that on my new SGP321 I am able to send/recieve SMS - I only realised because EE sent me a message to welcome me to the network.
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Sorry to tag onto the end of an old thread, but the basic question of phone calls via the XTZ still seems to be hanging in the air. I've got a T-mobile voice/text/mobile internet sim in my SGP321, and I can send and receive texts via this subscription.
I just don't understand why phone calls can't be enabled: the tablet obviously has audio hardware (microphone and speakers), so support for audio is obviously built into the firmware; it accepts a SIM with a package including voice minutes; it apparently supports the same GSM spec as the Samsung Galaxy 10 (which has phone capability) (I'd give a link to the comparison, but apparently as a new user I'm not allowed to do so!)
So what's the problem? I guess it comes down to whether or not it's caused by an omission in hardware or software. If the former, we're stuck; if the latter - well, surely it should be possible - somehow?
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WCDMA is just an alternative name for UMTS. It's a 3G data connection protocol. AFAIK no carrier in the world uses that for voice calls. http://10.1.cmxlog.com/?device=pollux
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UMTS is not just a data connection protocol; it's an entire 3G system. WCDMA is not "just another name for UMTS"; it's best thought of one of three different signal types UMTS can use. (WCDMA, aka UMTS-FDD, is used by almost all UMTS operators.)
Virtually every network operator on Earth with an active UMTS network uses it for voice, with a few exceptions (two or three Internet-only operators). They would be completely stupid not to - UMTS provides between 40 and 60 active voice calls per sector, vs. GSM's 7.
AT&T Mobility, T-Mobile, EE, Vodafone, Orange, O2, you name it; if it operates UMTS, you can bet voice calls are running over UMTS.
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I have an ATT Samsung galaxy tab 2 10.1 SGH-i497. I am trying to see if I there is a ROM that I can install on my device to make the GSM calls functioning just as in the Samsung tab 2 10.1 GT-P5100.
Please help...
Same problem with me.
Its hurting that even loading data packages becomes tedious.
I have to remove the sim card and insert it into some phone to do that since here in Uganda, Africa, we use codes to do that eg *100#
then reinsert it back into the tablet to use the data.
Kabbak said:
Same problem with me.
Its hurting that even loading data packages becomes tedious.
I have to remove the sim card and insert it into some phone to do that since here in Uganda, Africa, we use codes to do that eg *100#
then reinsert it back into the tablet to use the data.
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Add me to this request to see if we can make this Samsung Tab2 gsm calling capable.
Thanks
Voice Call Workaround
Sorry I'm late to this party. I recently purchased this tablet on eBay in pristine condition, and it is amazing. I started right away experimenting with voice calling. I purchased a SIM from Straight Talk with the usual unlimited plan (just like I would for a cell phone) and popped it in. The tablet had no problems recognizing the SIM and the phone number on it. Based on the hardware, at least from what I can see, the tablet seems to have the physical ability to handle calls so I suspect the inability to do so is software-related. However, I'm not a ROM expert (nowhere near - just a noob who knows enough to be dangerous), so I didn't feel like taking that risk. So, I found another solution - VOIP.
Since the tablet supports both WIFI and 3G/4G/LTE, a VOIP number that can be carried on those data streams would work. I tested this by creating a Google Voice number, and downloading the new Hangouts dialer app and got everything set up. Sure enough, I am now able to make and receive voice calls using this method. The SIM would ensure that I have data when no WIFI is available. Per the specs, this tablet should support HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100, so T-Mobile's $30/mo 5gig plan seems like a good cheaper option as I don't need the talk minutes anyway.
I know that a native voice solution would be preferable, but, in the meantime, this is a decent workaround that solved my problem, and hopefully could prove useful to someone.
SGH-1497
DO I hate this Tablet?
I got it mainly for the sim. slapped a ST sim in and away I go. See a phone app in ROM Manager See all the would leave me to believe I can make in and out calls on this thing. As of Jan 15 is this a forgotten relic and a crock of stewed crap to mess with to get working? If so Im heading for ebay or so,ewhere I want a 10.1 that I can use ST on and have 4G LTE. Can anyone reply to me where and what I need to make this happen. I just bought this for 100 bucks and I wont smash it into the wall but not real interested in it. With GO SMS it gives me a Straight Talk number and I can text with it but no dialer with a phone app running in the background? geez kick in the purse anyone?
Pls i need custom recovery for samsung tab 2 sgh i497
I recently bought the cell phone in US and am visiting India for a couple of months. When I tried using the GSM sims of both vodafone and airtel in in India I wasnt able to make any calls or rceiev any sms, despite of this being a WORLD PHONE.
I even rooted my device and by installing the APN MAnager I was able to install the Vodafone settings and to my surprise
Was able to get its 3g/Data services working.
However the Voice or the sms is still nit working.
The signalbar is showing just fine and so's the data connection symbol. However with the gsm sim in I keep gettin this NON VERIZON SIM ERROR icon on the top left.
Under the settings>MOBILE NETWORKS ive tried changIng them to both GLOBAL and GSM but still no luck yet.
Can anyone help me out with a network/sim unlock method, similar ti the ones avaialable on the tmibile and other phones.
Pretty sure the voice still uses CDMA. I believe that Verizon still only uses the LTE/GSM for data.
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jmgib said:
Pretty sure the voice still uses CDMA. I believe that Verizon still only uses the LTE/GSM for data.
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If thats true, then it wouldn't truly be a global phone now would it? GSM will work for voice, but you still need verizon's permission. It should work with a verizon sim, but you will pay through the nose. Now I thought the SIM was unlocked but I could be wrong. Also, even if it is unlocked, it still needs to be compatible with the network frequencies. I don't know what frequencies the VZW S4 has but you can google it.
This being a Dual Band mobile These are the bands that it supports..
CDMA 850
CDMA 1900
GSM 850
GSM 900
GSM 1800
GSM 1900
LTE 750
LTE 1700
WCDMA 850
WCDMA 1900
WCDMA 2100
Also on googling I came across some posts which said the people have managed to use there gsm sims in europe n korea and were able to get the voice n sms. For data they too had to play with th APN..
So what I am tryin to make out from this is we don have a solution to get the voice n sms working on gsm network
Pic showing the error message that I get when I try to make a call.
The second oic shows how my Network signals and data signals are showing just fine but still am not able to make any calls or sms.
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I used my phone and put in a Straight Talk (AT&T) SIM and it works with data and voice after manually putting in the APN. If Verizon phone works on AT&T network, it should work with any network out there provided that the bands are supported by the phone.
I was under the same impression, as it worked for me too when I used the tmobile(gsm) sim with it. I was able to make calls only and data was restricted.
Where as with Vodafone IND its the other way round. Am not able to make/recieve calls or sms but data 3g is working just fine.
Confused what could the problem possibly be.
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ashroh said:
I recently bought the cell phone in US and am visiting India for a couple of months. When I tried using the GSM sims of both vodafone and airtel in in India I wasnt able to make any calls or rceiev any sms, despite of this being a WORLD PHONE.
I even rooted my device and by installing the APN MAnager I was able to install the Vodafone settings and to my surprise
Was able to get its 3g/Data services working.
However the Voice or the sms is still nit working.
The signalbar is showing just fine and so's the data connection symbol. However with the gsm sim in I keep gettin this NON VERIZON SIM ERROR icon on the top left.
Under the settings>MOBILE NETWORKS ive tried changIng them to both GLOBAL and GSM but still no luck yet.
Can anyone help me out with a network/sim unlock method, similar ti the ones avaialable on the tmibile and other phones.
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If rooted, you can use Titanium backup, and freeze 'Setup wizard'.
What good would it do if I freeze the setup..how do you suggest I proceed further after freezing..?
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I recall needing to call verizon and get an unlock code for my old droid 2 global so that I could use non-verizon global sim cards in it. I believe you just needed to be a customer in good standing for at least 10 months, and could only do it once a year per line, or something.
Edit: A quick search showed a post claming it is already SIM unlocked, so never mind!
Since only my Data is working on my VZW GS4, that too after rooting and installing titanium and apn Manager.
Just wanted to confirm if I am thinking in the right direction, Is it possible that I may flash the Stock Rom for I9500(international Version) in my vzw GS4, and it would work with any international carrier around the world, cos currently am only able to use the Data/3g and Neither Voice nor SMS is working out here for me for GSM carriers like Vodafone and Airtel.
Id really appreciate if anyone can help me lookup a workaround for this..
I just made to run my port of Android Revolution HD 2.0 for i545 (I was porting it from i9505). Everything is working, except CDMA-networking. It's multilingual as well. If anybody wants - I could give it to test. I asked mike1996 for permission to port it, so it is permitted
Hi folks,
I'm looking to possibly switch to T-Mobile, but I know that coverage is spotty in my home town. (I don't go home often... Maybe once or twice a month for a weekend)
Because of the spotty coverage, wifi calling is a feature of T-Mobile that is very appealing to me, but I've been hearing rumors that their wifi calling feature doesn't work unless you purchase the phone directly from T-Mobile (which obviously cannot be done).
However, I do remember seeing a screenshot of the Xperia Z5 Compact's wifi calling settings and there was a tab listed for T-Mobile. Now why would a phone include wifi calling options for a specific carrier if that carrier refuses to support that phone?
Now let's say there is no way to trick the Z5 into letting me use wifi calling on T-Mobile... I read an article stating that CM13 will support T-Mobile's wifi calling. If CM13 was developed for the Z5C, would that do the trick?
Praying that someone with some more experience can shed some light on this matter. Is there any hope for me?
T-mobile announced that they'll be giving mini towers to customers for free (that's not wifi calling but an actual LTE tower for your house that uses your internet connection) so you can just call them up and ask when they'll start sending them out.
Does it just generate an LTE signal? That works well if the phone had working T-Mobile voice over LTE; which i'm not sure it would if I purchased an unlocked model. That router would be great for my home, but I'm concerned for other areas of my hometown, where I actually would need service (for example: car accident). If I could connect to a local coffee shop's wifi connection to make calls; that would make my life so much easier. I would hate to only have service in my home because that would make me feel bound to my house.
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Does it just generate an LTE signal? That works well if the phone had working T-Mobile voice over LTE; which i'm not sure it would if I purchased an unlocked model. That router would be great for my home, but I'm concerned for other areas of my hometown, where I actually would need service (for example: car accident). If I could connect to a local coffee shop's wifi connection to make calls; that would make my life so much easier. I would hate to only have service in my home because that would make me feel bound to my house.
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It's only phone based: https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-24269
FYI, I did use T-Mobile on an unlocked, unsupported phone last year for few months and I don't recall ever not having phone signal. Data is another story but calls were always available and I do travel a lot across the world. Their international data is pure BS - it just doesn't work.
And finally, the T-Mobile WiFi calling menu you saw is for the old T-Mobile in the UK that has now been merged into EE. You can flash that firmware but it probably won't work with the USA version depending on what moron wrote the integration and how much configuration data they hardcoded in the app or if it works it might be connecting to a UK gateway.
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It's only phone based: https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-24269
FYI, I did use T-Mobile on an unlocked, unsupported phone last year for few months and I don't recall ever not having phone signal. Data is another story but calls were always available and I do travel a lot across the world. Their international data is pure BS - it just doesn't work.
And finally, the T-Mobile WiFi calling menu you saw is for the old T-Mobile in the UK that has now been merged into EE. You can flash that firmware but it probably won't work with the USA version depending on what moron wrote the integration and how much configuration data they hardcoded in the app or if it works it might be connecting to a UK gateway.
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It's not that I think the phone will not have service because it's unlocked. T-Mobile just doesn't have great coverage in my hometown area at all. I did the Test-Drive a couple months back and remember getting 0-1 bars at all times... never holding on to a signal long enough to make a single phone call or send a text message. Thanks for the insight into the T-Mobile - EE thing. I didn't realize that. It would be lovely if it did work in the USA but I doubt it The T-Mobile Nexus 5 (arguably one of the most modded phones out there) never got t-mo wifi calling so I doubt this will.
Thank you!
Just so you know, I flashed to EE (even though technically I'm on MetroPCS which is a T-Mobile subsidiary), and I couldn't find that screenshot in any of the settings menus, nor could I locate it via "settings, under device, call. UK EE" as someone suggested in that thread. I do have a "Device Connection" menu and a "Call" menu, but they're separate menus not nested in one another. And I can't find any menu or option that says "UK EE".
So, it sounds like no one can find any Wifi calling toggle in any settings menu, correct?
nnotis said:
So, it sounds like no one can find any Wifi calling toggle in any settings menu, correct?
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A couple people have mentioned seeing it...someplace. One person said he saw it under the pencil looking icon in the drop down shade, but I've never been able to locate it up there no matter what firmware I've flashed too. It appears to be pretty elusive.
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A couple people have mentioned seeing it...someplace. One person said he saw it under the pencil looking icon in the drop down shade, but I've never been able to locate it up there no matter what firmware I've flashed too. It appears to be pretty elusive.
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It's probably checking for some condition to show the menu.
If you extract the EE firmware you would probable be able to do a text search for T-Mobile and find the apps that have that then decompile the one that sounds like the most likely to have the functionality (probably one with the word customization in the name) and check the logic which enables the functionality and even change and re-compile it. You would also be able to see if it connects to a specific gateway for the wifi calling and if so try to change that too..
Theoretically a company won't spend the money to develop different Wifi calling mechanisms for different countries and thus it should work but then again...
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It's probably checking for some condition to show the menu.
If you extract the EE firmware you would probable be able to do a text search for T-Mobile and find the apps that have that then decompile the one that sounds like the most likely to have the functionality (probably one with the word customization in the name) and check the logic which enables the functionality and even change and re-compile it. You would also be able to see if it connects to a specific gateway for the wifi calling and if so try to change that too..
Theoretically a company won't spend the money to develop different Wifi calling mechanisms for different countries and thus it should work but then again...
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I wouldn't know how to begin to do all of that.
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I wouldn't know how to begin to do all of that.
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You can follow this to extract the system partition (system.sln) and get it's contents to your hard drive: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1723284
Then you can use your file explorer (on Windows or whatever your OS is) to search for a text string (make sure you tell it to look only inside *.apk to avoid getting too many results). Once you find the apk files that could be what you need you can then use this: http://www.decompileandroid.com/ to decompile the apps so you get source code.
From then on it's a bit trickier, you'll need to make your way trough the configuration and maybe even the code to figure out where they store the connection info or what exactly do they connect to (it looks like the app uses your sim card to authenticate so that shouldn't require any tweaking).
Or you can just wait and hope this is true: https://support.t-mobile.com/thread/81359 or maybe it's already in M : http://www.phone-probe.com/android-m-features-native-wifi-calling/
Oh is that all? Simple.
It might be easier to just locate the apps needed for US T-Mobile wifi calling from another phone and install them on a z5c with EE firmware since the core OS code needed would be provided by the EE firmware and the US specific stuff will come from the apps.
This has a list that might actually be complete: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2302313 and you can ignore any jar files that are listed since that should come with the EE firmware.
The fact that there is a z5c firmware that supports Wifi calling is what's important here - you have all the proprietary and OS stuff baked in, you just need the US specific bits/configuration.
I have to have 2 sim cards active all the time, one is an international sim that roams on AT&T network (2G) I use only for phone calls & SMS's, DATA disabled all the time (too much $$ otherwise). The other sim card is a metro pcs unlimited everything. I currently have the ASUS zenfone 2 that I like, except the screen is broken, touch still works though, but now want to try the Gear S + a single sim phone (might buy a refurb. Tmobile Note 4, or a Nexus 6P..etc.)
- Say I have the international sim card in an unlocked AT&T gear S, and when I receive a call; answer it in my phone that's connected to the Gear S through Bluetooth? Or do I need to answer it through the built in speaker or a Bluetooth headphone connected to the Gear S?
- Is there an app like pushbullet that will push notifications (SMS's, missed calles..etc) to my other devices?
Thanks!
1. No, phone calls to the watch needs to be answered on the watch. You can have a BT headset connected to the watch to answer it but phone's can be used this way.
2. Notifications only go one way: from phone to watch. I'm not aware there is any app to the other way.
Also, keep in mind that the Gear S can only work within North America. If you use it outside that region, it is physically not possible to pick up any signal because its dual-band radio.
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1. No, phone calls to the watch needs to be answered on the watch. You can have a BT headset connected to the watch to answer it but phone's can be used this way.
2. Notifications only go one way: from phone to watch. I'm not aware there is any app to the other way.
Also, keep in mind that the Gear S can only work within North America. If you use it outside that region, it is physically not possible to pick up any signal because its dual-band radio.
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I thought it'd be able to route the call somehow heh.
I have pushbullet app, it sends whatever in the notification area to all other devices that run the same app using WiFi or DATA ..etc. I'm guessing no such a thing under Tizen that is reliable and works 100% of the time?
Thanks for the heads up regarding supported frequencies.
I have At&t and just got the Oppo Find N, chinese version. When i got to make a phone call, it pauses and sometimes doesnt seem to even connect before the call goes through. Data and texts seem to work fine with no hesitation. Anyone else having this problem or any advice? Thanks!
I had the same thin happen while in the office at home is working well.. not sure will test again tomorrow.. are you still having the issue ?
Sorry lads, i was on the same boat as you just a few days ago. My Find N also stopped making and receiving phone calls. Turns out AT&T shut down its 3G services hence you're unable to make phone calls. You'll need to switch to Tmobile if you want to continue using the phone. Tmobile is retiring 3G in July but I believe it handles phones differently than AT&T so we'll still be able to use it after July.
Not sure if that is the case I am on ATT and my Oppo N is on 4G able to make calls…
and might have spoken to soon.. unable to make calls any more.. The weird part is that SMS and 4G internet works..
carrieta17 said:
Not sure if that is the case I am on ATT and my Oppo N is on 4G able to make calls…
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It is pretty much the case. If youre able to make phone calls currently, it means ATT hasn't shut down the 3G towers in your area. They have plans to complete shutdown by Feb
carrieta17 said:
and might have spoken to soon.. unable to make calls any more.. The weird part is that SMS and 4G internet works..
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Right..... You didn't speak too soon. The towers in your area were just shut down. You'll have to switch to Tmobile now.
Since folks here are talking about T-mobile, I have a question.
Does 5G work with it on T-mobile (I'm in the US)?
I saw that it supports n41 which is one of the band supported by T-mobile. But just wanna double-check.
iocat said:
Since folks here are talking about T-mobile, I have a question.
Does 5G work with it on T-mobile (I'm in the US)?
I saw that it supports n41 which is one of the band supported by T-mobile. But just wanna double-check.
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I'm on T-Mobile, and have not had working 5G.
That doesn't mean it doesn't work somewhere... But not here in LA.
rcs1000 said:
I'm on T-Mobile, and have not had working 5G.
That doesn't mean it doesn't work somewhere... But not here in LA.
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I guess 4G LTE speed wasn't too bad?
I've been on both and honestly my 5G UC indicator shows up but the speed difference is not perceivable.
Suggest trying to manually change the band preference using a utility such as '5G LTE' by Rudra Green on the play store. This allows lots of different LTE and 5g options to be selected. The only problem is that the setting is lost after the phone is restarted. I have been using this to enable 5g in the UK.