To RooT or Not To RooT... ??? - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4

I have a verizon samsung galaxy s4.
Sch-1545
Just got it a few days ago.
I am trying to decide if I wanna root it or not.
But since it voids the phone warranty.. before I decide to root or not.. I would like to know.. that if I do root.. will verizon find out? Is there a way that they can find out? Is there something I can do so that they dont know?
Incase I decide to return it.. cuz I have 12 more days to decide if I wanna keep it or not. So if I root, then decide I dont want it.. can I unroot and return it, without them ever knowing that I did root it??

Most times when you root, there are easy methods to remove all traces of it. I don't know the s4 well myself, but do some Google research and if it looks to be that way, I say go for it - SAFELY. Don't rush it, do your homework. But root is extremely useful, and allows for many great apps (supersu, greenify, etc) and is usually essential to get custom recovery, and flash new roms. I'm sure xda has plenty of articles on the matter.
Good luck!
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MissLaniS said:
I have a verizon samsung galaxy s4.
Sch-1545
Just got it a few days ago.
I am trying to decide if I wanna root it or not.
But since it voids the phone warranty.. before I decide to root or not.. I would like to know.. that if I do root.. will verizon find out? Is there a way that they can find out? Is there something I can do so that they dont know?
Incase I decide to return it.. cuz I have 12 more days to decide if I wanna keep it or not. So if I root, then decide I dont want it.. can I unroot and return it, without them ever knowing that I did root it??
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Currently there is no bootloader unlock, but there's an alternative way to gain root. Its very easy to do if you have a PC at home. Just follow the steps in this link below. There's even a video to explain how to gain root step by step in this link --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41718543
You can always restore your Verizon S4 back to stock if you want to return it and your warranty will not be voided. I have returned mine back to stock successful just to see how it worked. Hope this helps
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Thank you guys for your help. I will check out the link u posted for me & ill let u know how it goes!!
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Root for 4.1.2 found yet?

I dont want to unlock the bootloader, just root the device so i can get titanium backup running again. Had 4.1.1 rooted and forgot to install root keeper and then upgraded to 4.1.2 and now need root again. Cant find anything on the site regarding this so not sure if its even possible yet. thanks for any help.
Try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41243013
This is not new development. Please post in the q and a section. Thank you kindly. not being mean, just for future reference buddy. We've all made this mistake once or twice
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vtec2k7 said:
I dont want to unlock the bootloader, just root the device so i can get titanium backup running again. Had 4.1.1 rooted and forgot to install root keeper and then upgraded to 4.1.2 and now need root again. Cant find anything on the site regarding this so not sure if its even possible yet. thanks for any help.
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Why not unlock the boot loader there is always a Oden to complete stock with locked boot loader so u can return ice returned 2 phones with unlocked boot loaders and never had a issue even one even a MAXX HD lol and one note 2 as long add there's no root they return them. Not having your BL unlocked limits u quite a bit Its your phone just curious
I used casual, and did everything, root unlock and custom recovery
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There's no way to root without Odin of root66 just like last build. Expect casual of course and as stated this is the wrong section so I went ahead and reported it for you so adev can move it. Just keep the sections in mind for future posts please.
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Hi guys,
I'm looking for a root that does only that: give me root access.
Is CASUAL really the only possible way to achieve root? If so, is it necessary that it unlocks the boot-loader and installs custom recovery to achieve this?
I probably wouldn't mind except that I'd like to just be able to do OTA updates as available, which I hear is not possible after running casual, and I really don't want to fiddle with custom ROMs as the stock Note 2 one works so well for me.
Thanks in advance for any help/suggestions...
-Paul
PaulusGrandis said:
Hi guys,
I'm looking for a root that does only that: give me root access.
Is CASUAL really the only possible way to achieve root? If so, is it necessary that it unlocks the boot-loader and installs custom recovery to achieve this?
I probably wouldn't mind except that I'd like to just be able to do OTA updates as available, which I hear is not possible after running casual, and I really don't want to fiddle with custom ROMs as the stock Note 2 one works so well for me.
Thanks in advance for any help/suggestions...
-Paul
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Odin and root66 will root your phone. If you recieve a OTA while rooted it will get rid of your root completely and you will have to re-root your phone, it also has the potential to do some wonky **** to it (ive even heard of bricks happening because of being rooted and accepting the OTA).
Once your bootloader is unlocked you wouldnt have to flash roms if you didnt want to unless you wanted to update to a new OTA.
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[Q] Don't know what's wrong...

I'm new to rooting and the whole android scene. Just bought my s4 a month ago and rooted it this week. I've been trying to customize themes and icons and I know I need to deodex the files on my phone. I downloaded universal deodexer and dropped the files where I needed to but the program wouldn't run. My question is, is there any other way to deodex the files and how exactly do I locate them? Maybe I didn't locate the right ones.
First off, its pretty cool that you are actually trying to learn what you are doing. The initial learning curve is pretty big but you will get the hang of it piece by piece. I can't speak for everyone but I as still learning and started with the Droid years ago. Take a look at this post for some useful info. Credit to Obsidian for the definitions and links. Just take note that some of his definition do not apply to this phone since it was created for the Bionic, but most of the info is helpful and universal.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/28127-ob...omsrootwipthreadsguidessafestrap/#entry751016
Now, to answer your question. Honestly I would flash a pre-deodexed rom and use it to modify things. A few are in the Samsung Development section that are basically TouchWiz minus the bloat. You may even find one there that suits you perfectly with no extra modding.
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Yea I was trying to learn. Then I bricked my phone by trying to install a new font. Now waiting for a replacement.
unbrick...
Anthony825 said:
Yea I was trying to learn. Then I bricked my phone by trying to install a new font. Now waiting for a replacement.
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check out the youtube channel of DroidModd3rX... find his video titled "Verizon Galaxy S4 How To Unbrick, Unroot, Return to Factory Set"... even if you don't have a Verizon GS4 this will help you if you bricked your device. If you have a different Carrier than verizon then check out "wwjoshdew" channel on youtube........ check out his video titled "How To Unroot and Flash your Galaxy S4 to Stock Android 4.2.2"..... I'm sorry i didn't find you earlier.:crying: ........ this might help you to not pay where you "voided your warranty... please please please do this if you can get your phone back from the company. It will re-warranty your device.
It's ok, I found that video on you tube, and a couple others. I tried all their methods for I bricking, but to no avail. Now all it says is "firmware upgrade error. Please continue in Kies". But it won't let me do anything else.
Anthony825 said:
It's ok, I found that video on you tube, and a couple others. I tried all their methods for I bricking, but to no avail. Now all it says is "firmware upgrade error. Please continue in Kies". But it won't let me do anything else.
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Even ODIN?
Yea i tried Odin, 3.07 and I tried three different stock images and none of them worked. It got to a part during the process that said "Auth (fail)" and then it would close out the program. I just got my replacement yesterday but I'm kind of afraid to root it again lol.
Although I would really like to root it again, since half of the stuff I used it for had nothing to do with what caused the problem in the first place. I was just really excited to download and install a custom room that didn't lag as much as this nonsense from Samsung.
Anthony825 said:
Although I would really like to root it again, since half of the stuff I used it for had nothing to do with what caused the problem in the first place. I was just really excited to download and install a custom room that didn't lag as much as this nonsense from Samsung.
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Your original problem sounded like you were trying to flash the mdk firmware on a me7 firmware which would cause auth fail in odin.
But I couldnt find any info above. If you did the the me7 root method you wont have write permissions because boot loader is locked. which would brick your phone when you flash a rom.
Is the me7 root method the one that roots through the micro SD? Is there a way to do so and unlock the bootloader currently or has one not been released yet for the newest Verizon update?
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Anthony825 said:
Is the me7 root method the one that roots through the micro SD? Is there a way to do so and unlock the bootloader currently or has one not been released yet for the newest Verizon update?
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if you did it through terminal then yes. you are on me7 which is why odin gave you problems. currently there is no way to unlock the bootloader. only the firmware previous to me7 can unlock it. So you might be stuck for a while.
Well that's kind of a drag. Installing custom ROMs is the only thing that an unlocked bootloader does? Or is there another reason to root the phone now instead of waiting for a root that unlocks it? Sorry for all of the questions...
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update when you got your phone?
Anthony825 said:
Is the me7 root method the one that roots through the micro SD? Is there a way to do so and unlock the bootloader currently or has one not been released yet for the newest Verizon update?
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did you update to the new update that the phone was bugging you about when you first got your phone? if yes, then, YOU CANNOT FLASH ANYTHING! OR IT WILL BRICK YOUR DEVICE. if you haven't, then, thank the good Lord that you didn't fall into the samsung trap. you can check on Settings/mydevice/about_phone/Build_Number.... i believe the last frace would say me7... if then, you're kinda screwed for now... if you have something else than youre ok:good:... If you're verizon you WANT TO HAVE "MDK" as your last 3 characters on your build number. MDK=:angel: ......Good luck!:laugh:
Anthony825 said:
Well that's kind of a drag. Installing custom ROMs is the only thing that an unlocked bootloader does? Or is there another reason to root the phone now instead of waiting for a root that unlocks it? Sorry for all of the questions...
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root still lets you uninstall or freeze that bloatware on your phone. Only thing I used iy for anyways. have about an extra 400mb of ram freed.
Well that is good to know in case I decide to go through with rooting again. Is there a way to uninstall that update? Or am I stuck waiting for a new method to root the phone that allows flashing? I might root again just to have some of the apps like gmd gesture and greenify.
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Anthony825 said:
Well that is good to know in case I decide to go through with rooting again. Is there a way to uninstall that update? Or am I stuck waiting for a new method to root the phone that allows flashing? I might root again just to have some of the apps like gmd gesture and greenify.
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no you cant do anything right now besides the root. cant uninstall because the bootloader is locked.
some rooted apps are nice to have. just gonna have to wait patiently
In that case, are there any apps you would suggest getting that won't destroy my phone again? I checked online for a list of must-have apps but half of them were directed at people who were experienced with rooting.
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Anthony825 said:
In that case, are there any apps you would suggest getting that won't destroy my phone again? I checked online for a list of must-have apps but half of them were directed at people who were experienced with rooting.
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I would just get titanium backup for now. and remove some bloatware a safelist can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314265 would not experiment with deleting random things it could cause brick problems nothing much else. if you are not comfortablr with that just try and wait for bootloader to be unlocked which has no eta
I may just do that. If I were to root again on me7 since there's no unlock method, if one were to be released would I be screwed or is there normally a way to do that at a different time than the root?
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About to ota with voodoo, concern

Hi everyone, I'm finally about to OTA my verizon s4. I'm going to use voodoo to protect the root. I'm a little concerned about what voodoo is showing me, before I do the update. I have super su installed and not the other Superuser app and it gives me a link for the superuser one.
Please everyone let me know if it's safe to proceed and that I don't need to also install that other Superuser app, which I don't like. Screenshot attached, thank you in advance!
bobstone said:
Hi everyone, I'm finally about to OTA my verizon s4. I'm going to use voodoo to protect the root. I'm a little concerned about what voodoo is showing me, before I do the update. I have super su installed and not the other Superuser app and it gives me a link for the superuser one.
Please everyone let me know if it's safe to proceed and that I don't need to also install that other Superuser app, which I don't like. Screenshot attached, thank you in advance!
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Me7 is rootable so even if you lose root you can get it back.
Hit thanks if I helped you out. Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way. Sent via tapatalk.
True, I just hate to go thru the trouble if I don't have to. I only have access to a work pc so its kind of a pain.
Im real good with tech but can't afford problems with this phone and yes im a little paranoid lol
Don't do it bro! If your own MDK your golden
Keep MDK. It has the most ROM friendly bootloader.
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Im on mdk but I have no interest in loading different roms or anything so I really don't care about the bootloader. If I had a second phone then hell yeah I would go crazy but this is my daily driver and I can't screw with it. Besides, I actually like the stock rom. I just need root because I can't stand the limitation not being rooted.
So aside from my concern about the Play Store link in voodoo, will I have to also temporarily unroot after I protect root?
bobstone said:
Im on mdk but I have no interest in loading different roms or anything so I really don't care about the bootloader. If I had a second phone then hell yeah I would go crazy but this is my daily driver and I can't screw with it. Besides, I actually like the stock rom. I just need root because I can't stand the limitation not being rooted.
So aside from my concern about the Play Store link in voodoo, will I have to also temporarily unroot after I protect root?
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Totally understandable but root and flash a custom recovery. You may change your mind later and it'll be too late to do anything about it. There's a stock rooted ME7 in the dev section so you'd get the stadibility of stock, root and a bootloader you can manipulate if you ever choose to.
I've never been fond of flashing especially when I have no backup cell phone and I've already tweaked this phone to my liking. I honestly will never want to flash this phone... as dumb as that sounds
bobstone said:
I've never been fond of flashing especially when I have no backup cell phone and I've already tweaked this phone to my liking. I honestly will never want to flash this phone... as dumb as that sounds
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Fair enough. In that case, forgo OTArootkeeper/voodoo/whatever, accept the ME7 update and root it via the method in the Dev section. DISCLAIMER!! By doing this, you waive all rights to whine about your bootloader in the future
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I hear ya. I guess ill just try voodoo and update just for ****s n giggles and reroot if I have to. Is that reroot forum clearly titled or if not, do you have its link?
While im at it, will the xposed framework still work after ota or any concerns?
Any response to the above? Also, is it a prerequisite to unfreeze apps?
Thanks in advance.
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bobstone said:
Any response to the above? Also, is it a prerequisite to unfreeze apps?
Thanks in advance.
Sent from my rooted Galaxy S4
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Yes. Don't take the OTA. I know you said you have no interest in flashing roms, but why limit your options now when you don't know what the future will bring. Plus even if you do take the ota and gain root, you cannot mess with the kernel. If it was me, I would just download the stock root deodexed version of me7.

[Q] Rooting without unlocking bootloader?

Not sure where to post this.
Anyway, I want to know if it's possible to root an Android without unlocking the bootloader. My problem is I don't want anything wiped off the phone. I'm trying to get past the lock screen, because I found this phone in the street, so I want to get the numbers in it to try and return it. I've heard you can bypass the lockscreen if it's rooted. It's a Samsung Galaxy S Mesmerize, (or Fascinate).
PS its not stolen. I'm not gonna downgrade from a nexus 4 to this, and it's in such horrible condition I cant sell it.
Yeah, it sure is possible but its device specific. I rooted a s4 that still has a locked bootloader, but I know that you have to with an HTC. Good luck!
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Any idea if it's possible with the galaxy mesmerize/fascinate? I don't wanna screw this up and end up with a brick. I've never done this before.
sinndissension said:
Any idea if it's possible with the galaxy mesmerize/fascinate? I don't wanna screw this up and end up with a brick. I've never done this before.
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I've rooted my xt920 with framaroot apk, it automatically unlocked my bootloader, try it, if it fails it´ll probably undo the changes

[Q] root android 5.0.1

Will CF auto root would it be able to root android 5.0.1. I really do not care about the Samsung knots being trigger my phone is already out of warranty. I just have insurance if it gets stolen or I drop it in water. Or should I wait until they find a root method without triggering Samsung knots. I read about triangle away but like I said at this point I can careless if it gets trigger. What are you guys opinion?
The first rule of XDA is - Search.
dgutierrez04 said:
Will CF auto root would it be able to root android 5.0.1. I really do not care about the Samsung knots being trigger my phone is already out of warranty. I just have insurance if it gets stolen or I drop it in water. Or should I wait until they find a root method without triggering Samsung knots. I read about triangle away but like I said at this point I can careless if it gets trigger. What are you guys opinion?
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As of now, if you took the OTA and did not preserve root, there is no root method available. Also, "Knox"
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dgutierrez04 said:
First of all I did search. I spent 2 days searching. So i figured i had the right to ask.
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No root for OC1 unless you took the neutered tar through odin or used a ROM from @gigilie or another dev .
mike.s said:
The first rule of XDA is - Search.
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I spent 2 days searching the forms. So I figured I was in the right to ask a question.
Illogi.xbone said:
As of now, if you took the OTA and did not preserve root, there is no root method available. Also, "Knox"
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Thank you. I was did preserve root. for lollipop but what happen I let my nephew play on my phone and he ran safestrap and i was stuck in a bootloop. I couldn't get it out no matter what. I was in the bootloader OC1. I was one of the guys that help Muniz achieve root for everyone. We were having Wifi issues but i told him i would upgrade my bootloader to help if it would fix it. but it was the kernel. So i needed to used samsung kies to get my back up. So thats how I lost root. But thank you for your help.
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Thank you. I was did preserve root. for lollipop but what happen I let my nephew play on my phone and he ran safestrap and i was stuck in a bootloop. I couldn't get it out no matter what. I was in the bootloader OC1. I was one of the guys that help Muniz achieve root for everyone. We were having Wifi issues but i told him i would upgrade my bootloader to help if it would fix it. but it was the kernel. So i needed to used samsung kies to get my back up. So thats how I lost root. But thank you for your help.
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Fyi...... @dgutierrez04 was the guy that pulled the OC1 ota update for me when no one else could due to the two part 5.0 update. He also took one for the team during testing of the OC1, Stock Rooted ROM so many of you enjoy today by updating his bootloader to OC1.
I assume he has no backup phone.
That said, it seems a lot of people have to use Kies... as Odin reports fails...
I did not root my I545 verizon so now I have lollipop oc1. My question is should I not take the next upgrade for lollipop or at this point does it make a difference as far as getting root?
Thoughts are more than welcome
XxD34THxX said:
I assume he has no backup phone.
That said, it seems a lot of people have to use Kies... as Odin reports fails...
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No I do not have a backup phone. But hey that's how we learn. I will do it again for the community if I can capture again the update and test it for everyone I would. I am a te player. I wish I could built roms but I'm not that smart lol.
traco1 said:
I did not root my I545 verizon so now I have lollipop oc1. My question is should I not take the next upgrade for lollipop or at this point does it make a difference as far as getting root?
Thoughts are more than welcome
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I suggest is to wait and hope they can find a root method and try to avoid future updates as off right now. That's what I would suggest you doing as for me I will be doing the same.
dgutierrez04 said:
No I do not have a backup phone. But hey that's how we learn. I will do it again for the community if I can capture again the update and test it for everyone I would. I am a te player. I wish I could built roms but I'm not that smart lol.
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Neither am I(smart enough for a ROM build). As much as I love Unix, it isn't a full time playground. Still loving Visual Basic and batch...

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