[Q] Does Nandroid backup the internal storage?? - Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi guys,
I own a S3 and for one year I just dealed with the stock ROM, just root access. Saturday I decided to enter the modding world but I knew it would bring a lot of troubles...
I did a nandroid backup of 4.1.2 stock FW just before the flashing, but no way it restores, after an hour of processing it shows - Error restoring data! - it boots but it's a total mess. I even restored the original stock FW with triangle away, wipe all and double ODIN flash and then reflashing the clockworkmod recovery to restore the backup again but nope, won't work.
Luckily I did a full backup with Titanium backup prior, the real trouble is with ES file explorer: I did copy/paste of the entire internal storage to the external microsd but for some reasons it stopped at "D", "Downloads" folder... I lost everything else and I realized this only AFTER wiping and flashing, of course...
I'm trying to recover the files with Hexamob, hope this will work....
I have this two questions:
Does Nandroid work only with backup < 2.5 Gb? Mine is 4.5 Gb...
Does Nandroid backup the internal storage, too??
Thank you all guys

Joker87 said:
I have this two questions:
Does Nandroid work only with backup < 2.5 Gb? Mine is 4.5 Gb...
Does Nandroid backup the internal storage, too??
Thank you all guys
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If I am not wrong, Nandroid does a backup of your phone (system, data etc) so that when you restore it, you got anything like it was. It does not backup the SD card though. In addition backups of over 2.5gb should work.

/data is the internal memory? Or is it /sdcard?

Joker87 said:
/data is the internal memory? Or is it /sdcard?
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its all the internal memory.
/system
/data
/cache
...are all on the emmc memory and are backed up in a nandroid backup.
/sdcard is actually a mount of /data/media, however this is ignored by nandroid backups for obvious reasons
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rootSU said:
its all the internal memory.
/system
/data
/cache
...are all on the emmc memory and are backed up in a nandroid backup.
/sdcard is actually a mount of /data/media, however this is ignored by nandroid backups for obvious reasons
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So /sdcard is the external microsd? And /data is the internal memory (I mean what you see when connecting phone to PC, Internal memory and external sd)?
If nandroid backed up internal memory would be great, may be there's some way to recover datas from backup files (unyaffs won't work, Titanium Backup just shows apps and their datas).
I'll do some further research.

no. sdcard is the internal SD, which is just a link to /data/media. to backup it, use copy and paste. no, it's not possible to recover internal SD data from a nandroid backup

Be aware that Nandroid does not backup your EFS .
jje

it can. depends on the recovery

Yep i know problem is that some think any recovery backs up EFS .
Wrong recovery no EFS backup .
We desperately need some stickied faqs and guides on this forum .
jje

Joker87 said:
So /sdcard is the external microsd? And /data is the internal memory (I mean what you see when connecting phone to PC, Internal memory and external sd)?
If nandroid backed up internal memory would be great, may be there's some way to recover datas from backup files (unyaffs won't work, Titanium Backup just shows apps and their datas).
I'll do some further research.
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/sdcard is the "internal sd"
/extSdCard is the "external sd"
/data is something different that just so happens to be the home of /sdcard

As I feared, no internal storage backup in Nandroid. But what makes me more angry is that s****y ES file explorer so crappy it can't even perform a simple task like copy-paste. If that worked I wouldn't have lost anything. :crying:
Not to mention the useless nandroid... doesn't work either.
However I did manually backed up the EFS folder, but I don't really think it matters in this case.

If your /sdcard was 90% full, where would the nandroid go? External obviously? But recovery devs cannot assume that everyone has an external sd card with enough free space to store a 15 GB backup.
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Joker87 said:
As I feared, no internal storage backup in Nandroid. But what makes me more angry is that s****y ES file explorer so crappy it can't even perform a simple task like copy-paste. If that worked I wouldn't have lost anything. :crying:
Not to mention the useless nandroid... doesn't work either.
However I did manually backed up the EFS folder, but I don't really think it matters in this case.
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FX file explorer
better .
jje

Just clarifying
Hey guys, this is my first ever post on xda!
Just to clarify, a nandroid backup will only backup device root files, and not the (internal) sdcard, nor the extsdcard files, from my understanding of this thread. So to do a complete backup of ALL phone data, I should perform the nandroid backup to extsdcard, and then simply copy (internal)sdcard and extsdcard to my computer for safe keeping?
Thank you!

toomfly7 said:
Hey guys, this is my first ever post on xda!
Just to clarify, a nandroid backup will only backup device root files, and not the (internal) sdcard, nor the extsdcard files, from my understanding of this thread. So to do a complete backup of ALL phone data, I should perform the nandroid backup to extsdcard, and then simply copy (internal)sdcard and extsdcard to my computer for safe keeping?
Thank you!
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Yep! I discovered it losing data xD

Joker87 said:
Hi guys,
I own a S3 and for one year I just dealed with the stock ROM, just root access. Saturday I decided to enter the modding world but I knew it would bring a lot of troubles...
I did a nandroid backup of 4.1.2 stock FW just before the flashing, but no way it restores, after an hour of processing it shows - Error restoring data! - it boots but it's a total mess. I even restored the original stock FW with triangle away, wipe all and double ODIN flash and then reflashing the clockworkmod recovery to restore the backup again but nope, won't work.
Luckily I did a full backup with Titanium backup prior, the real trouble is with ES file explorer: I did copy/paste of the entire internal storage to the external microsd but for some reasons it stopped at "D", "Downloads" folder... I lost everything else and I realized this only AFTER wiping and flashing, of course...
I'm trying to recover the files with Hexamob, hope this will work....
I have this two questions:
Does Nandroid work only with backup < 2.5 Gb? Mine is 4.5 Gb...
Does Nandroid backup the internal storage, too??
Thank you all guys
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Ya possible......
TUTORIAL for internal storage backup
http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...age-backup-t3389172/post67103552#post67103552

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Extract images from Nandroid backup

I know i need to extract them with unyaffs.exe
But i can't find where my camera photos stored ..
Please navigate me to the path ...
Motorola Atrix 2.3.4 device.
Thanks.
Nowhere, they're on the SD card (/DCIM/)
So they are gone ?
I stored them at the internal sd, not in the external sd.
Internal SD... ah, sorry: the Atrix has built-in memory... I wasn't aware of that. That depends on how it is accessed... I still wouldn't expect it to show up in Nandroid backups, but if your lucky it doesn't get formatted and you can still retrieve it. The question is, what device is this internal storage and what filesystem does it use.
Can you still mount the storage on the PC? You should be able to retrieve most of your images even if the drive was formatted using a standard photo recovery tool
I just full wiped everything .. all the storage places too and intsalled new ROM.
OK, i can do that , which revocery tool should i use ?
It's been a while ... I think I used this one:
http://www.z-a-recovery.com/digital-image-recovery.htm
The free version is enough for image recovery.
Thanks
Just recover some of my images ...
But i can't get the full library from the nandroid backup? what information do you need?
I know i can just restore the nandroid backup ... but it will do trouble ... diffrent kernel from my preset rom..
Any ideas?
?
Sorry for the late response, But I just stumbled upon the thread. I had the G2x. The internal memory is just like another SD card. Just that it's not removable. What's backed up in a Nandroid is things like the /data, /cache /boot /system and android.secure partitions. The internal memory is /emmc. It doesnt get formatted in a wipe (unless you say so) and it doesnt get backed up in the Nandroid. Otherwise, your Nandroid backups would be EXTREMELY large.

[Q] EFS Backup

Hi all,
need to ask a couple of questions regarding the EFS backup.
1) If i use the kTool for EFS backup and do a total wipe before flashing custom ROM, (mounts and storage>format system) will the EFS backup also get wiped out? My common sense tells me yes since the internal SD will be wiped out and kTool saves the EFS files on the internal SD but just want to be sure so that i can search an alternative method for backing up as i want to flash custom ROM with total wipe.
2) Does the EFS Pro app save the EFS backup on the internal SD only or does it have an option to save on ext SD card?
3) Do i just have to be rooted to backup my EFS files? Im just asking as im terribly obsessed my EFS files will get corrupt while rooting the phone! Is there a simple way to backup my EFS files on my ext SD card without root?
4) Can my EFS files really get corrupt just by rooting my phone?
Thanks in advance for any feedback
KJD
luger77 said:
Hi all,
need to ask a couple of questions regarding the EFS backup.
1) If i use the kTool for EFS backup and do a total wipe before flashing custom ROM, (mounts and storage>format system) will the EFS backup also get wiped out? My common sense tells me yes since the internal SD will be wiped out and kTool saves the EFS files on the internal SD but just want to be sure so that i can search an alternative method for backing up as i want to flash custom ROM with total wipe.
2) Does the EFS Pro app save the EFS backup on the internal SD only or does it have an option to save on ext SD card?
3) Do i just have to be rooted to backup my EFS files? Im just asking as im terribly obsessed my EFS files will get corrupt while rooting the phone! Is there a simple way to backup my EFS files on my ext SD card without root?
4) Can my EFS files really get corrupt just by rooting my phone?
Thanks in advance for any feedback
KJD
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I know nothing about EFS backup but how about this. I assume you have access to a PC and the usb cable that came with the fone. Or else you do have a microsd card in the fone. Why don't you do the backup and copy the files to either the microsd card or a PC. That way you know you have a backup you can use.
In most cases, and someone can correct me if I'm wrong, the format system will not touch your backups.
HTH
guhvanoh said:
I know nothing about EFS backup but how about this. I assume you have access to a PC and the usb cable that came with the fone. Or else you do have a microsd card in the fone. Why don't you do the backup and copy the files to either the microsd card or a PC. That way you know you have a backup you can use.
In most cases, and someone can correct me if I'm wrong, the format system will not touch your backups.
HTH
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Yes very true, i can also do that and it also crossed my mind but im afraid that by doing so, copying the EFS files and folders onto a PC or directly to the ext SD card will alter the files and folders in a way that they cannot be restored and i dont want to take that risk unless im totally sure of what im doing or if this can actually be done.
Thanks just the same for ur feedback
Ok so I just found out that with EFS Pro I can backup on my pc safely. Do I need to be rooted to use this app and safely backup the efs files?
Thanks

[Q] What exactly happens when I delete my internal SD card?

My internal SD card is mostly full (11GB) after a year of using my i9300, and I'm not sure where all that space has gone (some pictures and video but I think a lot of apps I used throughout the last year but ended up deleting). So I figure the next time I try a new ROM I will delete the whole thing and start from scratch, backing up my data of course. I will back up the entire internal SD card to my computer and take a nandroid backup before doing anything.
Should I format the internal SD card or just delete all its contents?
I've noticed that when I try a new ROM the internal SD card isn't touched, so where does the ROM actually get stored?
What does the wipe data / factory reset option in ClockworkMod Recovery actually wipe?
Does a nandroid backup back up the internal SD card? I have a feeling the answer is no, but then what does it actually back up?
If I use TitaniumBackup to back up all my app data and move that backup to my computer, then I delete the internal SD card, wipe the system, tehen replace my old ROM with a new ROM, then use TitaniumBackup to restore my apps and their data, am I missing anything? For example, I don't think certain data gets backed up by TitaniumBackup, for example photos (even though that might be considered 'data' of the camera app), so what could I be unwittingly missing when I do my restore from TitaniumBackup? How will I know what things I need from what's currently on my internal SD card?
iamthemandroid said:
Should I format the internal SD card or just delete all its contents?
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No need to format it.
iamthemandroid said:
I've noticed that when I try a new ROM the internal SD card isn't touched, so where does the ROM actually get stored?
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Lets distinguish between these things.
The "internal SDcard" is NOT an sdcard. It is a partition on the internal memory referred to as /sdcard (on other phones /sdcard mounts to removable media but not here). However, as it happens, the internal memory itself is an eMMC (embedded MultiMedia Card) which is where the confusion arises, so let us refer to eMMC as "Internal Memory" from here on.
The internal memory has many partitions (It's 14.9 GiB in total). It has a /system partition (ROM goes here) a /boot partition (bootloader), /recovery partition (guess) and /cache partition and a /data partition (A few others that aren't of interest here).
Usually /data is where all your data and apps go (in /data/app and /data/data) however, we use the FUSE file system to cleverly put /sdcard (usually removable media) into /data/media. This way /data is fully used as user data space.
iamthemandroid said:
What does the wipe data / factory reset option in ClockworkMod Recovery actually wipe?
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Custom Recoveries wipe /data/app and /data/data. Stock recovery wipes /data which includes /data/media AKA /sdcard
iamthemandroid said:
Does a nandroid backup back up the internal SD card? I have a feeling the answer is no, but then what does it actually back up?
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No. It backs up /system, /data (ignoring data/media) and /cache. It often backs up to /sdcard so it cant backup where it is saving the files to
iamthemandroid said:
If I use TitaniumBackup to back up all my app data and move that backup to my computer, then I delete the internal SD card, wipe the system, tehen replace my old ROM with a new ROM, then use TitaniumBackup to restore my apps and their data, am I missing anything? For example, I don't think certain data gets backed up by TitaniumBackup, for example photos (even though that might be considered 'data' of the camera app), so what could I be unwittingly missing when I do my restore from TitaniumBackup? How will I know what things I need from what's currently on my internal SD card?
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Backup titanium to /sdcard then copy EVERYTHING from /sdcard to computer, will catch everything. Titanium doesn't back up stuff on /sdcard unless it is explicitly part of an application and you select that option in preferences
Your best option would be to format Internal SD card. And as you install a new rom, as you can see you only have 11GB of free space. Thats what is left from your total 16GB. Android OS reserves some space for bootloader, rom and cache.
The factory reset in recovery will delete all your system settings, apps, messages, call log and such. But if I'm correct it shouldn't touch the pictures. Nandroid backup doesnt hold your whole Internal SD card in itself.
And titanium backup backups apps and their settings, but it will not backup messages or pictures.. You can for example manually copy pictures to your computer and then back to your device. And for messages there is a good app called 'SMS Backup & Restore'.
Hope this helps
Edit: Me and my slow typing
Etirel said:
Edit: Me and my slow typing
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I was on a mission
rootSU said:
I was on a mission
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Guess so But you explained it a lot better than I did. So probably better that way
help me please formated sd with stock nanaroid on it..please help!!!!
i formatted my sd like a clown...i recoverd the files how ever i am unable to find my twrp back up ...i really need some help
DroiDBoSS said:
i formatted my sd like a clown...i recoverd the files how ever i am unable to find my twrp back up ...i really need some help
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You formatted that means you have lost what was on the sd card .
If you put your Nandroid backup on that card then its lost .
JJEgan said:
You formatted that means you have lost what was on the sd card .
If you put your Nandroid backup on that card then its lost .
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know any ware i can download the rogers stock 4.1.2 firmware...and does it mess with my unlocked bootloader if i flash back?
DroiDBoSS said:
know any ware i can download the rogers stock 4.1.2 firmware...and does it mess with my unlocked bootloader if i flash back?
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Do you have I9300 or I9305 phone ???
If not this is I9300 you are in the wrong forum . Firmware/ mods from here may brick your phone .
Back up
rootSU said:
No need to format it.
Lets distinguish between these things.
The "internal SDcard" is NOT an sdcard. It is a partition on the internal memory referred to as /sdcard (on other phones /sdcard mounts to removable media but not here). However, as it happens, the internal memory itself is an eMMC (embedded MultiMedia Card) which is where the confusion arises, so let us refer to eMMC as "Internal Memory" from here on.
The internal memory has many partitions (It's 14.9 GiB in total). It has a /system partition (ROM goes here) a /boot partition (bootloader), /recovery partition (guess) and /cache partition and a /data partition (A few others that aren't of interest here).
Usually /data is where all your data and apps go (in /data/app and /data/data) however, we use the FUSE file system to cleverly put /sdcard (usually removable media) into /data/media. This way /data is fully used as user data space.
Custom Recoveries wipe /data/app and /data/data. Stock recovery wipes /data which includes /data/media AKA /sdcard
No. It backs up /system, /data (ignoring data/media) and /cache. It often backs up to /sdcard so it cant backup where it is saving the files to
Backup titanium to /sdcard then copy EVERYTHING from /sdcard to computer, will catch everything. Titanium doesn't back up stuff on /sdcard unless it is explicitly part of an application and you select that option in preferences
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I backup via philz_touch_6.00.8 but when i tried to restore philz_touch_6.00.8 could not find the backup folder or file. Also when i check the my data using file explorer also i could not find backup file or folder. Interesting that capasity of internal sd card is less then befor about 3 GB. Could you explain why i could not find and restore or remove ?

[Q] Is it possible to restore my settings/apps using only backup of Internal Storage?

So somehow I've managed to lose my Clockworkmod Recovery backup files after having to format /data and /data/media.
I've still got a backup of the internal storage directory on my computer.
Any way I can use it to restore my settings and apps?
navieko said:
So somehow I've managed to lose my Clockworkmod Recovery backup files after having to format /data and /data/media.
I've still got a backup of the internal storage directory on my computer.
Any way I can use it to restore my settings and apps?
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Can someone please answer? >.<
navieko said:
So somehow I've managed to lose my Clockworkmod Recovery backup files after having to format /data and /data/media.
I've still got a backup of the internal storage directory on my computer.
Any way I can use it to restore my settings and apps?
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Well... From your description
Your CWM backup from internal storage is lost after formating, but you have backup of internal storage on computer.
Then check the backup on computer if there is a folder named "clockworkmod". If yes, then copy it to internal storage and restore it from CWM.
If you don't have that directory, then unfortunately your data looks like gone.
Press Thanks if helped.
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[HELP] Does a CWM / nandroid backup includes WhatsApp images?

Yesterday I whiped my internal storage. Sadly I forgot to secure my WhatsApp images from the respective folder.
Before whipping the device I've made a nandroid backup with CWM.
The question is: does a nandroid backup includes also the images and videos from the internal storage folder of WhatsApp? Can I restore it with the nandroid manager?
I would be pleased for a fast answer :good:
funk_doc said:
Yesterday I whiped my internal storage. Sadly I forgot to secure my WhatsApp images from the respective folder.
Before whipping the device I've made a nandroid backup with CWM.
The question is: does a nandroid backup includes also the images and videos from the internal storage folder of WhatsApp? Can I restore it with the nandroid manager?
I would be pleased for a fast answer :good:
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Yes it should because it backed up /data which some devices have their internal sd partition. Extract the data and see. It should be there as long as you didn't store images on the external sd.
kirito9 said:
It should be there as long as you didn't store images on the external sd.
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Guess what I did... :laugh:
Thanks for the answer. There was nothing in nandroid manager. So I think I need to deal with it.
funk_doc said:
Guess what I did... :laugh:
Thanks for the answer. There was nothing in nandroid manager. So I think I need to deal with it.
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So you're saying that there was no backup in the first place? Or it was wiped?
There is a backup on the external SD. What I meant is that I used nandroid manager for a restore but it only restored the WhatsApp data and sadly no images or videos at all. Maybe there is another possibility?
funk_doc said:
There is a backup on the external SD. What I meant is that I used nandroid manager for a restore but it only restored the WhatsApp data and sadly no images or videos at all. Maybe there is another possibility?
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It should be in a Whatsapp folder on the sdcard.
funk_doc said:
There is a backup on the external SD. What I meant is that I used nandroid manager for a restore but it only restored the WhatsApp data and sadly no images or videos at all. Maybe there is another possibility?
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As far as I know...
A cwm backup will restore data but it won't restore the files.
sorry

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