[Q] Rooting withouth changing flash counter - Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have Galaxy S3 I9300 on stock 4.1.2 EMC2 firmware. All I want is root this stock firmware, but I want flash counter stay on 0.
Is there any method?

GTRSkyR34 said:
I have Galaxy S3 I9300 on stock 4.1.2 EMC2 firmware. All I want is root this stock firmware, but I want flash counter stay on 0.
Is there any method?
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Yes, CF-Auto-root or framaroot

rootSU said:
Yes, CF-Auto-root or framaroot
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But in this thread writes:
Using this root increases your flash counter. You should run Triangle Away (see below) after rooting to reset the counter...
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GTRSkyR34 said:
But in this thread writes:
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There currently isn't a method that allows you to root without increasing the counter. Early this year, Exynos abuse allowed for rooting without counter increase, but it has since been patched so if you want root, you'll also increase the counter.

GTRSkyR34 said:
But in this thread writes:
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True but it can be reset afterwards. Unlike other methods that ive you a custom recovery and set counter back to 1 every boot, this should stay at 0 after reset with triangle away
Teura said:
There currently isn't a method that allows you to root without increasing the counter. Early this year, Exynos abuse allowed for rooting without counter increase, but it has since been patched so if you want root, you'll also increase the counter.
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Sure? What about framaroot? I dont know the answer myself, but if anything didnt increase the counter, it would be that.

More than just the counter involved in the reject warranty due to custom rom .
jje

rootSU said:
TSure? What about framaroot? I dont know the answer myself, but if anything didnt increase the counter, it would be that.
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You might be correct. I actually haven't seen much of framaroot before since my last root was over half a year ago, but reading what it does it might well be so that it doesn't increase the counter.
As for Exynos abuse, it was such a big thing here that one couldn't miss it, so I thought it was the only way, but I stand corrected.

Teura said:
You might be correct. I actually haven't seen much of framaroot before since my last root was over half a year ago, but reading what it does it might well be so that it doesn't increase the counter.
As for Exynos abuse, it was such a big thing here that one couldn't miss it, so I thought it was the only way, but I stand corrected.
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I'm not correcting you. As i said, I don't know the answer myself... But it *may* do it

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[Q] Custom binary count reset

Hi there Galaxy s2 owners
I was woundering ive had the galaxy s2 for a few days now and recently i flashed chains unsecure kernel, now the thing i noticed is that every time u flash somthing that count goes up. Does any of you Devs know how to reset this counter if so all help would be greatly recieved.
BRONSON29 said:
Hi there Galaxy s2 owners
I was woundering ive had the galaxy s2 for a few days now and recently i flashed chains unsecure kernel, now the thing i noticed is that every time u flash somthing that count goes up. Does any of you Devs know how to reset this counter if so all help would be greatly recieved.
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solution found by me ur post showed up when I was posting my thread.
look here
dh2311 said:
solution found by me ur post showed up when I was posting my thread.
look here
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Thanks a lot for this info
can someone explain why the counter going up is a bad thing?
Sandwiches said:
can someone explain why the counter going up is a bad thing?
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It is not a bad thing, if you have no problems with your phone.
You can ignore the counting, but if you have a problem and need warranty service from Samsung, they will charge you for the repair as flashing or changing the firmware other then through official means i.e. kies, your warranty is considered null and void.
Phone repairs can sometimes be expensive.
On latest 2.3.4 USB jig will not reset the counter .
jje
JJEgan said:
On latest 2.3.4 USB jig will not reset the counter .
jje
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I reset my 2.3.5 counter this evening with a USB jig
luster said:
I reset my 2.3.5 counter this evening with a USB jig
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2.3.5 ???????????????????
jje
JJEgan said:
On latest 2.3.4 USB jig will not reset the counter .
jje
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Only in the Official 2.3.5 KI Firmwares are fixed.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/no-more-usb-host-api-support-on-ki-firmware/
m0ngstr0us said:
Only in the Official 2.3.5 KI Firmwares are fixed.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/no-more-usb-host-api-support-on-ki-firmware/
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Thanks a misprint .
jje
luster said:
I reset my 2.3.5 counter this evening with a USB jig
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Yes, many people have done this because they know which package to use.
JJEgan said:
On latest 2.3.4 USB jig will not reset the counter .
jje
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It will if you use the firmwares from XDA OR use the workaround that we provide.
So there is no way to reset the counter when using the new bootloader yet, not even flashing through the jig (tried that, counter still up)?
Can any one tell me what is the exact specification of the resistance to make a jig . I have searched ebay it cost around 400k whereas i made the jig only for 12 rs . Its not working , i think there must be something wrong with the resistance rating .
Btw i used 2 ,150 ohm connected in series to another 1 ohm. The phone instead of going to dnld mode it boots to the main OS
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motodude said:
Can any one tell me what is the exact specification of the resistance to make a jig . I have searched ebay it cost around 400k whereas i made the jig only for 12 rs . Its not working , i think there must be something wrong with the resistance rating .
Btw i used 2 ,150 ohm connected in series to another 1 ohm. The phone instead of going to dnld mode it boots to the main OS
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Hi motodude!
300k Ohm bettween 4 and 5 pins.
d3l1 said:
So there is no way to reset the counter when using the new bootloader yet, not even flashing through the jig (tried that, counter still up)?
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Download the old bootloader from intratechs original firmware thread and flash with Odin. A few posts in from beginning of thread and available to download by itself.
Then you can use the jig.
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aceofclubs said:
Download the old bootloader from intratechs original firmware thread and flash with Odin. A few posts in from beginning of thread and available to download by itself.
Then you can use the jig.
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I have tried this multiple times and i cant get it to work. I know the jig has worked in the past. is it possible that it has stopped working? or a way to confirm i am using an old bootloader?
Why it is so important to reset the count besides voiding the warranty?
Is the phone going to stop functioning after reaching xx number or is there a maximum number?
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wcg707 said:
Why it is so important to reset the count besides voiding the warranty?
Is the phone going to stop functioning after reaching xx number or is there a maximum number?
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i dont think there is a limit. i think everyone just assumes there isnt.
I just want to be able to reset mine to 0 just in case i do have problems. atm i cant and would like to do it before i break it (i break lots of things)
Guys, try searching the site a little more.
install the insecure kernel with cwm you want
extract the zimage from this dump it on your internal sd
flash the stock kernel version back over it using odin (resets counter)
reboot to cwm and flash the zimage from within cwm no more counter / triangle
curioct said:
Guys, try searching the site a little more.
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reboot to cwm and flash the zimage from within cwm no more counter / triangle
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Maybe it should be you searching the site a little more, as that will most certainly not reset the counter.

[Q] Rooting Galaxy S2

Hey Guys,
I switched from the Iphone to Android, I just got the Galaxy s2 and I want to root it. I have been reading of the different ways to root the phone, based on what I have seen so far the GingerBreak seems to be the easiest way to do it. So I am here in the forum, my first post is requesting a confirmation from you guys, which is the easiest way for an idiot like me to root my galaxy s2 without bricking it ?
Thanks
RedCell X
There is guide here in other post.
Basically you have to flash custom kernel, reboot and flash stock kernel back.
All using Odin.
Be careful - each custom kernel flashing will be visible. There is counter that shows how many custom kernels you flashed.
I stick with stock rom this time and avoid rooting.
This counter can be reset according to this forum. It's your decision.
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Definitive SGS2 Rooting Guide for now .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056334
Do you need root now .
jje
Gingerbreak only worked on the pre-production SGS2 models, it no longer works on the retail versions that are shipping now.
If you need root then use the link provided above, it works like a charm and you can always reflash an official kernel once you have root (and this is probably recommended if you also update your firmware to the lasted version).
The SGS1 usb jigs do work with the SGS2 and have the added bonus of resetting the custom firmware counter which may be handy if you ever need to return your phone under warranty, I got mine off of ebay yesterday and it works a treat.
rdy2go said:
Be careful - each custom kernel flashing will be visible. There is counter that shows how many custom kernels you flashed.
I stick with stock rom this time and avoid rooting.
This counter can be reset according to this forum. It's your decision.
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Why is resetting the counter important? For warranty purposes?
Rootinf galaxy s2 continued
Hey Guys,
Thanks for the response, I don't think i will be rooting my phone being honest I am afraid to do it. I will stick with the stock rom that came from it. I spent $850 for the phone I dont want to brick it.
Thanks to everyone that responded.
Redcellx
redcellx said:
Hey Guys,
Thanks for the response, I don't think i will be rooting my phone being honest I am afraid to do it. I will stick with the stock rom that came from it. I spent $850 for the phone I dont want to brick it.
Thanks to everyone that responded.
Redcellx
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Dont worry about bricking your phone, even if something goes wrong with the flashing process you should always be able to get back into download mode so you can reflash either by using the keypress method or if that fails the usb jig should wake your phone up.
Then you can either use ODIN or even the Kies Recovery method to get a working ROM installed.
rwc3b said:
Why is resetting the counter important? For warranty purposes?
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Yeah, while no has (yet) reported that they have had a warranty request rejected because of custom rom usage, its nice to know how to reset the counter to ensure any warranty requests go smoothly.
MrYiff said:
Yeah, while no has (yet) reported that they have had a warranty request rejected because of custom rom usage, its nice to know how to reset the counter to ensure any warranty requests go smoothly.
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Take a stroll over to SGS 1 forum i replied to a post where service wanted $400 as non stock rom and their have been a fair few reported and Samsung sent out a post to SS do not repair rooted phones under warranty .
jje
Some one should post a video on YouTube a how to
JJEgan said:
Take a stroll over to SGS 1 forum i replied to a post where service wanted $400 as non stock rom and their have been a fair few reported and Samsung sent out a post to SS do not repair rooted phones under warranty .
jje
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Ahh, that sucks then, I've never owned an SGS1 before so never looked in the SGS forum, if they have actively rejected modded phones in the past then it makes the usb jigs a very worthwhile investment then!

Rom counter

Just wanting to be sure. If I want to root, all methods involve flashing a kernel that will increase the internal custom rom counter and therefore risk the warrantee?
Thanks
(I know of the jig that will reset the counter but I guess there is a risk there is a second hidden counter.)
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drspikes said:
Just wanting to be sure. If I want to root, all methods involve flashing a kernel that will increase the internal custom rom counter and therefore risk the warrantee?
Thanks
(I know of the jig that will reset the counter but I guess there is a risk there is a second hidden counter.)
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not confirmed. nobody found the "hidden" coutner yet and not even the way how to resset it. so for now its not there..
Is there a limit for the counter to drop the warranty??
yousif666 said:
Is there a limit for the counter to drop the warranty??
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1 would be the limit otherwise no point its there to prove that a non standard rom has been used .
jje
drspikes said:
but I guess there is a risk there is a second hidden counter.
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seriously. who the f*** created this rumour about a "super hidden counter has been reset counter"
and more importantly, who seriously believes, that there is a "super hidden counter has been reset counter"
/rant
EDIT: i'm 100% sure samsung didn't create 1000 counters, wich all do the same thing.
so there is no risk by flashing and increasing the counter?
(some roms need to be flashed with odin).
kaukassus said:
seriously. who the f*** created this rumour about a "super hidden counter has been reset counter"
A dev is who .
jje
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yousif666 said:
so there is no risk by flashing and increasing the counter?
(some roms need to be flashed with odin).
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If you flash by any means their is a risk a very very small risk if you follow the instruction but that risk is bigger if you dont read ,As to the rom counter you would need it at zero and if their is a hidden rom counter we can do nothing about that until its proven .
jje
drspikes said:
Just wanting to be sure. If I want to root, all methods involve flashing a kernel that will increase the internal custom rom counter and therefore risk the warrantee?
Thanks
(I know of the jig that will reset the counter but I guess there is a risk there is a second hidden counter.)
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Dont get paranoid... i guess by now more than one handset has already made a visit to a samsung repair shop...(after installation of custom rom and then reset thru jig)
if they got rejected..they would share the info here...(most custom rom installers would def go thru Xda forums)...
also by common sense...why should you only think of only two counters? there should be a third or even fourth counter to make sure the device hasnt been fiddled with...
this phone is meant to be customized...
now sleep easy...

[Q]Reason of update.zip not working in i9100?

Hi all, I have a question regarding the topic above.
I had google and browser through every sub-forum of samsung sII and others, but I still couldn't get my answer
As we know if you want to root your SII, you will need to flash the insure kernel file. Previously there is also a method using the zergRush, but unfortunately the new stock kernel is no longer working with it.
Back to the topic Like other samsung phone, for example galaxy Young, we can just copy an update.zip to the SD card and update through the phone (vol up+center+power).
My question is, why galaxy S2 unable to do this trick?
chinkang.tan said:
My question is, why galaxy S2 unable to do this trick?
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Because the .ZIPs need to be properly signed when using stock recovery.
Just flash a kernel with CWM recovery via Odin, problem solved. It's really easy.
HellcatDroid said:
Because the .ZIPs need to be properly signed when using stock recovery.
Just flash a kernel with CWM recovery via Odin, problem solved. It's really easy.
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The apk-signer using the "testkey.x509.pem" and "testkey.pk8" will not works either? but why?
Yes it is easy with Odin, but it increase the binary count and I dun have the Jig =/
chinkang.tan said:
The apk-signer using the "testkey.x509.pem" and "testkey.pk8" will not works either? but why?
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Because they are not "releasekeys".
chinkang.tan said:
Yes it is easy with Odin, but it increase the binary count and I dun have the Jig =/
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Then just get one.
Either make yourself or grab one off eBay for 3 bucks.
Besides, a custom count > 0 doesn't harm or effect the phone in any way.
HellcatDroid said:
Because they are not "releasekeys".
Then just get one.
Either make yourself or grab one off eBay for 3 bucks.
Besides, a custom count > 0 doesn't harm or effect the phone in any way.
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can you tell me more about the "released key"? or is there any thread is explaining this..
and which is the best guide for you to create a custom kernel? thanks so much for ur sharing
chinkang.tan said:
can you tell me more about the "released key"? or is there any thread is explaining this..
and which is the best guide for you to create a custom kernel? thanks so much for ur sharing
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He meant for you to make your own jig. All you need is a USB plug and ~301 ohms worth of resistors. Apparently 300 ohms works.
ctomgee said:
He meant for you to make your own jig. All you need is a USB plug and ~301 ohms worth of resistors. Apparently 300 ohms works.
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hihi ctomgee~ no no, the released key he mentioned was the reply for previous post
chinkang.tan said:
The apk-signer using the "testkey.x509.pem" and "testkey.pk8" will not works either? but why?
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chinkang.tan said:
hihi ctomgee~ no no, the released key he mentioned was the reply for previous post
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Actually, go back and look at post 4 again - it looks like this:
HellcatDroid said:
chinkang.tan said:
Yes it is easy with Odin, but it increase the binary count and I dun have the Jig =/
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Then just get one.
Either make yourself or grab one off eBay for 3 bucks.
Besides, a custom count > 0 doesn't harm or effect the phone in any way.
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Context is important.
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Actually, go back and look at post 4 again - it looks like this:
Context is important.
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I understand that, but that was not my question thanks anyway~
Actually you can root the phone and use CWM without increasing the counter.
I did it like this:
- Install any rom below 2.3.6 (I used 2.3.5)
- Root using Zerg rush method
- Install a custom kernel via mobile Odin (I installed Siyah kernel)
- Go to CWM and install a rom of your choice
My counter is at 0 and I am running a custom rom and kernel. Odin won't trigger any counters unless you flash an insecure kernel. Why mobile Odin doesn't increase any counters is beyond me but it works.
bpivk said:
Why mobile Odin doesn't increase any counters is beyond me but it works.
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Because it doesn't flash through the bootloader in download mode.
Technically it's not Odin increasing the counter, it the bootloader's downloadmode when it checks the signature of the kernel and it fails the check.
Mobile Odin is running as "normal executable code" on the phone and writes directely to the affected partitions, hence no counters or triangles.
nice information bpivk and HellCatDroid! this is a new idea for me =D
by the way, and idea on why the update.ini will not works for s2?

ICS from rooted Stock

I just upgraded to ICS from Stock Gingerbread. I only had it rooted, and had CWM recovery on it. I plugged my Note to my PC, started Kies, and followed the steps. Now Im on ICS. :good:
I lost root, but then followed the instructions here to gain it back:
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/
Did this trip your flash counter?
epoch1176 said:
Did this trip your flash counter?
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Flashing anything with Odin will trip the counter... but who cares? Setting it back to zero is trivial.
Forgive my ignorance, as I am still new to this, but is this the proper method for resetting?
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/easily-reset-the-flash-counter-on-the-samsung-galaxy-note/
nevermine
epoch1176 said:
Forgive my ignorance, as I am still new to this, but is this the proper method for resetting?
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Here's the thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1569206
@epoch1176:
The only person who should be concerned about the flash counter is someone who will be getting a warranty claim.
Flash away with complete peace because you can easily reset your counter when and if you need to with a method posted on xda.
+1 ^
Thanks guys, I appreciate it!

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