Hi all,
I updated to the latest Verizon Galaxy S4 update last night and tried out the move app to SD option. I noticed the storage space didn't change at all, and looking at my SD card no new files or folders were created there and the available space remained the same. Using the Application manager I moved 5 apps over to the SD card (which should have been about 3GB), but it seems like it didn't actually move them. Isn't it supposed to move them to the real SD card? It seemed like maybe it moved them to a virtual sdcard folder maybe somewhere on the normal file storage, which doesn't help at all. Am I doing something wrong?
Thanks,
Kenny
The app remains in internal memory. All you can move is the apk. The app itself and its data remains in your main memory.
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ciniob said:
The app remains in internal memory. All you can move is the apk. The app itself and its data remains in your main memory.
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The update seems useless for those who need more storage at least, doesn't solve the problem of people running out of memory from app's.
hambonez said:
Hi all,
I updated to the latest Verizon Galaxy S4 update last night and tried out the move app to SD option. I noticed the storage space didn't change at all, and looking at my SD card no new files or folders were created there and the available space remained the same. Using the Application manager I moved 5 apps over to the SD card (which should have been about 3GB), but it seems like it didn't actually move them. Isn't it supposed to move them to the real SD card? It seemed like maybe it moved them to a virtual sdcard folder maybe somewhere on the normal file storage, which doesn't help at all. Am I doing something wrong?
Thanks,
Kenny
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Honestly, just root. It gets rid of the blow ware, and you get much more memory. My suggestion.
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Most of us are somewhat familiar with how apps2sd works on Froyo. It does not use a sd card partition like the ones we are used to. All system apps, apps you run widgets from, homelaunchers, etc need to be saved on internal memory (you don't have a choice with the system apps) to avoid errors when you reboot or connect via usb. Since the apps are physically located on the sd they become unmounted when the sd card is no longer mounted.
What I'm curious of is where the apps are saved on the sd? I imagine they would save to a hidden file. If this is the case, is it possible to manually move system apps with root explorer or adb commands from internal to the sd card? Obviously, you wouldn't want to move anything crucial to the boot or remount but apps such as e-mail and maps (memory hogs)?
I've noticed when moving apps to the sd from internal that only about half of the file size is actually moved. So does this mean my above question is impossible?
Does anyone REALLY understand how apps2sd works on Froyo?
Is it possible to install another apps2sd (one that allows an sd partition)?
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All you need to do to move apps manually to sd is from home go menu> settings> applications> manage applications, then you can select the app you want to move and select move to sd. This works for any app. If the "move to sd" button is grayed, make sure you check the box in "cyanogenmod settings" to allow moving any app to sd.
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I get an error moving system apps even with the Cynogen setting on. I'm on KaosFroyo v24. Which one are you on?
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joshw0000 said:
I get an error moving system apps even with the Cynogen setting on. I'm on KaosFroyo v24. Which one are you on?
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When using froyo apps2sd you cant have an EXT partition on your SD card also if that isnt the issue check the space on your SD card, also turn on both "save to" settings in Cyanogen Settings to external and also in the applications settings
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I get an error moving system apps even with the Cynogen setting on. I'm on KaosFroyo v24. Which one are you on?
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I too am on KaosFroyo and have no problems doing this. Not sure why it's not working for you but I hope ya figure it out!
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He's talking about System apps. What that specifically means I do not know, but I know trying to move say Facebook to the SD card gets an error message stating System updates cannot be installed on external media. All other apps (outside these system apps: Facebook, Maps, etc) can be moved without problem.
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He's talking about System apps. What that specifically means I do not know, but I know trying to move say Facebook to the SD card gets an error message stating System updates cannot be installed on external media. All other apps (outside these system apps: Facebook, Maps, etc) can be moved without problem.
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Oops, sorry... must have read too fast. I can't move them neither.
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He's talking about System apps. What that specifically means I do not know, but I know trying to move say Facebook to the SD card gets an error message stating System updates cannot be installed on external media. All other apps (outside these system apps: Facebook, Maps, etc) can be moved without problem.
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Thats what I meant. Thanks for clearing that up.
So I was thinking, maybe we can get around this. What if we delete the file for whatever system app (we'll say FB for this example) and re-download it from the market (or install from a file on your sd card). Would it still be a system app? Could we then save it to the sd?
I think I'm going to try it. I'll report success or failure.
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SUCCESS! Using root explorer, I moved the facebook files located in system/app and data/app to my sd card. I then used linda manager and installed facebook.apk. I opened the app and all seems well. I then went into manage applications in settings and moved it to the sd card.
I'm going to do some more testing and post a new thread for guys like me who can't have TOO MUCH free internal memory.
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Hi can someone please help me out.
i have just inserted a new sd card in my phone,
ive already transferd a few files to it so i no its working.
well im using the application app 2 sd to move apps , well i have apps that it says can be moved but when i click on them there is no option for sd card and also i get a message saying: the device does not have a real primary external storage, or primary external storage is emulated
can someone help me please
anyone? :/
Could be a copy sdcard card, loads kickin around from China
Also why u need a2sd don't u have enough on phone storage?
No it's proper sand disk I think from ebuyer, well I have about 10 apps and I have around 250-300mb left just wanted to free some up as when I install n.o.v.a 3 it's like 2.gb and that installs to whine storage aswell not sd. I think I've read that none if the apps to sd work yet for sgs3 :/
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There's plenty of open topics about this. Search for them.
Basically Samsung intended the internal, external cards and dropbox to work as one big storage for all apps, app data and user files... or something like that.
So they disabled the Move To SD option in the app manager. Unfortunately it doesn't quite work like they intended and the external SD is practically useless as most apps (99%) can't read or write to it.
I'm reading around now to see if anything new happened but it's looking grim.
This thread should be closed.
Any updates on this? I still want to move my App Data to the external SD card. In this way my new SGS3 is even worse than my Galaxy Y -.-
as far as I know it does not work with S3. maybe an update coming soon
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Hi can someone please help me out.
i have just inserted a new sd card in my phone,
ive already transferd a few files to it so i no its working.
well im using the application app 2 sd to move apps , well i have apps that it says can be moved but when i click on them there is no option for sd card and also i get a message saying: the device does not have a real primary external storage, or primary external storage is emulated
can someone help me please
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you cant do it again. samsung wont allow this option anymore. you can close this thread
It works. It requires some handywork though on the shelll.
maybe there will be a noob friendly mod soon for those that want to use .sd card for apps?
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I'm just hoping for a custom Rom with App moving, UMS mode and fixed user dictionary so I'm not having to patch up the f**k ups that Samsung made and have it all built in like it should be.
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Any updates on this? I still want to move my App Data to the external SD card. In this way my new SGS3 is even worse than my Galaxy Y -.-
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I used Directory Bind App to move my big data esp. game data to my external Sd.It worked perfectly.
bump. having same issue.
Rezound running NilsP ROM (Sense 3.6) and 16G external card.
Phone has a lot of internal space taken up by some backup files, pics and videos (in dcim folder). External card only had about 2.5-3Gb space taken.
Went you a street festival and took some videos. Got to a point where phone indicated storage was full. Tried moving some files to external but phone still seems to think max storage is limited to 10Gb.
Seems the phone thinks whatever is on ext-sd is part of storage limit and is limited to 10Gb.
Am I missing something? What's the value of having a 16 or 32Gb external card if the limit restricts the actual usable storage?
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Have you rebooted since you moved the files? That should cause the service to rescan both internal and external storage.
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Have you rebooted since you moved the files? That should cause the service to rescan both internal and external storage.
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Thanks for the reply.
Yes, I did a complete power down. I also thought that might help the OS recognize the file moves. No go.
It seems to me the system is including the symlink, or however ext-sd is mapped to sdcard, in what the system thinks it's limited to with no external card.
Is this a side-effect of the direction Android is going (without external cards as part of native support, a la Nexus)?
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I think it is something funky with your phone. Mine uses all the memory. I currently have 9 gig filled on each internal and external.
Two questions:
Are you saying your internal has 9 gig and your external (ext-sd) card has 9 gig of other files? Not saying I don't believe you, just wanting to confirm I'm reading your response correctly.
Other question - are you using NilsP's ICS ROM? If you're not, I'd be interested in what you are using, stock or otherwise, and if it's ICS or GB.
Thanks again for your replies.
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Check for a folder called .Trash1000 or something similar to that. If its there, delete it and it should clear up a lot of space on your SD.
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dm5530 said:
Two questions:
Are you saying your internal has 9 gig and your external (ext-sd) card has 9 gig of other files? Not saying I don't believe you, just wanting to confirm I'm reading your response correctly.
Other question - are you using NilsP's ICS ROM? If you're not, I'd be interested in what you are using, stock or otherwise, and if it's ICS or GB.
Thanks again for your replies.
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Yes, using about 9 gig on each.
Currently running Ineff Dues, but I've also used NilsP's ICS and had no problem.
Try what Obat suggested above. That folder is a hidden folder and may not show up in all file explorers.
I've seen the .Trash folders before on some SD cards (wife has a Mac laptop).
I'm using several file managers and have never seen that on my phone's micro-SDs.
Appreciate the replies, guys. At this point, I think I'll wipe and install again.
I'll post again after that with my results/experience.
Thanks.
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Have you tried swapping in another SD card to see if it gives you identical results?
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dm5530 said:
I've seen the .Trash folders before on some SD cards (wife has a Mac laptop).
I'm using several file managers and have never seen that on my phone's micro-SDs.
Appreciate the replies, guys. At this point, I think I'll wipe and install again.
I'll post again after that with my results/experience.
Thanks.
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Probably way late on this, but I only see it when I'm using Linux and I choose to show hidden files.
You sure you actually moved the files from internal to external or did you copy them and leave a copy on both the internal and external...
Make sure you actually deleted the files after the move so you don't have two copies. I use es file explorer and you have to go in the settings and change it to show hidden files (files with a . in front of them) to see the .trash folder.
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Have you tried swapping in another SD card to see if it gives you identical results?
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Just a follow-up as I promised:
I was using a 16gig card for almost a year, had a 32gig available and wanted to do a few things to update my phone (ICS 3.x to ICS 4.x; NilsP's Sense 3.6 to his Sense 4.0 ROM; cleanup the memory card space, etc.).
My suspicion is that the external card had some corruption (or perhaps it was system-related).
Since I made several changes, I'm not sure at the moment what the culprit was, but things seem to be operating properly and (best I can tell) I have access to ~10gig for internal SD (SDCARD) and ~32gig for the external micro-SD (SDCARD2).
Appreciate everyone's concern and suggestions for help.
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I have the Verizon Note2, 64GB SD Card, rooted and bootloader unlocked. I do have 300+ apps downloaded currently. When trying to install another one just now from sd card- an .apk file- I had a popup saying I was Out Of Space. I know it is trying to install it to the phone's internal memory, which it thinks is full.
Is it full, and do I really need to remove some other apps? I know JB doesn't let us move the apps from internal to sd, so what other options are there? I am not comfortable altering the framework- nor do I know how- to move the apps to sd. Can I move them with Rom Toolbox Pro?
Thanks!
biknut1 said:
I have the Verizon Note2, 64GB SD Card, rooted and bootloader unlocked. I do have 300+ apps downloaded currently. When trying to install another one just now from sd card- an .apk file- I had a popup saying I was Out Of Space. I know it is trying to install it to the phone's internal memory, which it thinks is full.
Is it full, and do I really need to remove some other apps? I know JB doesn't let us move the apps from internal to sd, so what other options are there? I am not comfortable altering the framework- nor do I know how- to move the apps to sd. Can I move them with Rom Toolbox Pro?
Thanks!
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You can't move apps to SD that way. You can do a swap though. The phone would read your external card as internal and vice versa. I am pretty close to doing this myself as I am fighting for app space.
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300 apps? Wow, thats a ton. I have maybe 20-25. I'm sure I am on the low side.
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Does anyone get the low memory pop up after doing the internal external swap yet have plenty of space still available ?
nosympathy said:
You can't move apps to SD that way. You can do a swap though. The phone would read your external card as internal and vice versa. I am pretty close to doing this myself as I am fighting for app space.
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So how do you do the internal/external swap? Link to info please?
Hi
I would like to aks if anyone knows how to move apps to SD card in galaxy s4.. i know that after this new update this has been enabled however if i have for example asphalt 8 which is 1.51 Gb in size and want to move it to SD card it only moves the app and data remains in phones storage.. does anyone know how to move data to sd as well?
if this has been asked before i am sorry, i dont spend much time in here
thanks
kubiktheking said:
Hi
I would like to aks if anyone knows how to move apps to SD card in galaxy s4.. i know that after this new update this has been enabled however if i have for example asphalt 8 which is 1.51 Gb in size and want to move it to SD card it only moves the app and data remains in phones storage.. does anyone know how to move data to sd as well?
if this has been asked before i am sorry, i dont spend much time in here
thanks
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Rooted. Used FolderMount. By far, the bulk of space used turned out to be data, which FolderMount easily moved to ext sd card.
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does the phone have to be rooted?