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So it looks like 1/11/11 @ 11:11 the Verizon iPhone will come.
Who is jumping ship?
I am about 90% sure I will be, what do I need to do to wipe my phone of root and all of my data?
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Not me. F THE IPHONES
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dont know if/when its coming to verizon is true and dont care. With root access, the rate of android development and the amount of devices to choose from I have no desire to leave android. Much more likely to leave verizon than android lol. I mean really I dont understand why anyone who wants an iphone doesn't just use AT&T and have one.
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I mean really I dont understand why anyone who wants an iphone doesn't just use AT&T and have one.
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I don't get a signal from at&t at home, so that's why I stayed with Verizon Wireless and changed from (crappy) WM to Android.
I'm glad that VZW is getting the iPhone - more competition is always good for everybody, and they are damned good smartphones. I'm a bit tempted, but I've grown fond of Android, I've used Gmail and Google Calendar for a long time, I vastly prefer Android's notifications to iOS's, and I have a Touch 4G anyway, so I can get anything I need from iOS with that.
My new every 2 comes in August, and by then there will be a new iPhone, and likely new Android phones as well. So long as my Eris lasts that long, I'm thinking that waiting until after the iPhone 5G comes out is the smartest thing for me (whether I choose that or Android) in the long run.
Good post, thanks!
I know I personally am tempted to use the iPhone only because it's still so absolutely supported. When a company says "we've gone mobile" they usually mean they have an iPhone app... and if I'm lucky I'll get an android app a month or more later.
This can be seen with netflix. I love the idea of netflix on a phone, but android doesn't have it. Why? Simply because netflix hasn't gotten around to it.
When you're on the iPhone you have the satisfaction of knowing that you're a "priority customer" for companies.
The fact is I still won't go with the iPhone because I enjoy the Android OS far too much. I personally think it is flawed to the core in some areas, but then again so is iOS so I'm not complaining.
I'll be jumping ship to the iPhone. Don't get me wrong... I love my Eris and it's been good to me, especially with the good community here at XDA.
I've always wanted an iPhone and it'll go good with my iPad! Can't wait for it on VZW!
I plan on ditching my Eris here soon hopefully, but it will not be for an iPhone. I have bought into the Android ecosystem with apps for my phone, and my tablet. I'm however very interested in the Droid Bionic that was announced at CES.
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I know I personally am tempted to use the iPhone only because it's still so absolutely supported. When a company says "we've gone mobile" they usually mean they have an iPhone app... and if I'm lucky I'll get an android app a month or more later.
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My #1 reason for jumping ship...
I am tired of my sister, brother, brother-in-law coming to me and saying hey check out this cool new app/game.....do you have it on Android yet?
Me: No.... and they don't mention any development for Android on their site.
i think that the android community as a whole is going to suffer greatly from the arrival of iphone. the vast majority of android users dont root their phones, and have not been able to utilize android in the same way that we have. the ones that purchased their android when it first came to verizon and didnt root, are stuck with an unsupported phone. iphone is really appealing to the average user. i see many people ditching google to go with apple.
i dont plan on changing any time soon to the iphone simply because it will not be 4G, doesnt have the customization aspects that android does with root and whatnot, and in june they will have the iphone 5 coming out. its a little suspect that verizon is coming out with the iphone 4, 6 months before the new iphone is slated to come out. i see a lot of hardware/software issues arising due to the fact verizon is trying to push this out as fast as they can to cash in on the people that buy it mid contract. it also helps that they are changing their upgrade policies right before this phone comes out to try to entice people to upgrade now
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This may be a bit off topic, but I'm really dissapointed in the direction verizon is going as far as the upgrade/NE2 goes. Honestly I'm going to be changing carriers next year when my contract is up. I just hope other carriers don't follow big reds direction.
Also, I'm not looking forward to 4g. They are going to charge out the butt for it and cap data usage. Doesn't sound fun to me... of course I'm sure most if not all carriers are going to do the same
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This may be a bit off topic, but I'm really dissapointed in the direction verizon is going as far as the upgrade/NE2 goes. Honestly I'm going to be changing carriers next year when my contract is up. I just hope other carriers don't follow big reds direction.
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Forget Sprint and T-Mobile - they are smaller, so will always be more aggressive. Does AT&T do anything like this? I remember last year when the iPhone 4 came out they made a big deal about the fact that anybody whose contract was due in 2010 was eligible for an early upgrade to the 4, but that was only the iPhone 4 and was, at best, 6 months early. Verizon sets theirs at 2 months early for one year contracts and 4 months early for two year contracts for everybody with this (rumored) policy change.
Honestly, I don't know what AT&T does, but I thought that Verizon was always better about this?
Also, I'm not looking forward to 4g. They are going to charge out the butt for it and cap data usage. Doesn't sound fun to me... of course I'm sure most if not all carriers are going to do the same
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Evidence? At this point it's just a guess. If we base our guess on the data plans for modems, you may be surprised. In the past, 3G modems were capped at 5 GB and priced $60 per month (while smartphone data plans were unlimited and priced at $30 a month). 4G data plans for modems are $50 a month for 5 GB and $80 a month for 10 GB. I'm not sure that I would call that "charging out the butt".
We do know what Sprint does for 4G smartphones - they do not cap and surcharge $10 more per month, right? It seems reasonable that VZW will do something similar, or at least not out of that neighborhood.
I for one will be getting one as soon as they're available. Why? Well, I have three lines and the third is up for upgrade at any time. My primary line is up for upgrade in October this year so if I don't like the iPhone I can always go back to Android.
Another reason is that it's a damn sexy phone, no matter what people may say about it.
Eventually they'll have Android running on the iPhone 4, (it's already sort of working on the 3GS) so I could always have the looks and the OS that I've grown to like. I won't switch to AT&T simply for the reason that I get a 20% business discount on Verizon and I've been with Verizon since before the iPhone was introduced. I've waited this long for it, I've been wanting one since it came out, so I'll at least have to buy one to see how it compares to my Eris. (And Android in general) I have an iPod Touch so I'm familiar with iOS, so I'm not too worried about that.
Besides, everything else in the house is Apple, might as well have the dang phone too!
Didnt read through all posts, but iPhone 4 comes to Verizon 02/11/11 @ 12:00am. IPhone 5 is rumored to arrive at Verizon in July, with a new body and possibly LTE. But as stated, it is rumored. I'm adding s line to have both android and apple OS.
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Im an Android fanboy, nope.
I (thought) I'd be ready to jump to iphone first chance but now that I can I'm having second thoughts. My rooted eris is so great. I might just stick with HTC/Droid and go for the incredible HD. I'm itching for something but at the same time I'm very happy with what I have.
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i wouldnt buy iphoney lol ,,,,, first flaw ,,, whos bright idea was it not to have a door for the battery? lol im not gunna send my phone out and wait a few dayz to get it back because the battery died lol two hate the look of it ,,,,and i love the freedom of android
Since i have recently ditched all my Apple stuff, know way. I'm thinking Droid Bionic, unless HTC breaks out a dual-core with 1 gb of ram... I'm counting the days until my July upgrade date!
I'm not jumping because I personally think that Android in a few years will kill the iPhone, iPhone's been around a while and you know how things go... electronics last 5-6 years (estimate), then die out completely to a competitor. So, iPhone has had it's time, and Android is going to overtake Apple. Second of all, it's GOOGLE GODDAMNIT!
P.S. There's 26 Letters in the Alphabet, we're only on 6.
My Desire is starting to feel really outdated due to the tiny amount of internal storage so I'd like to pick up something new. I know there is a Desire HD which looks pretty good, does anyone know if they have a version of it that works with US AT&T 3G (it has to be made for Telstra or Telus since they run the same bands)?
Would you guys recommend the Desire HD? Or would you recommend something else over it? It has to be GSM, work with US AT&T 3G, have lots of internal storage space, and I need to be able to buy it unlocked online. I'm willing to spend about $600 USD or so (but feel free to suggest cheaper phones or more expensive phones if you think I'd like them better).
I'm using a Desire as well.. damn good phone, but yes, its getting very dated, even with running Cm7 and tweaking it to hell for performance lol I'm in canada, but I'm picking up a Galaxy S II next friday. I dont think it's out there yet, but it is due out soon iirc. Id seriously wait for it if you have the money. I've been looking alot, comparing several different phones, but it seems the SGS2 just leads the pack currently, and by quite a bit from the reviews. There are free easy unlock methods online (a couple right on the market) and you can use it on whatever networks you want (our version works across all networks in canada)
I just bought a galaxy s2 from amazon unlocked for 650. It works on att 3g and it's the most future proof phone on three market, but if you hold out you might get a hold of the nexus prime in a couple months. Also if you want something cheaper buy the inspire 4g on ebay or somewhere else. It is the desire hd with att branding and.att.3g bands. Also the development on that phoney is sick. I just sold mine or I would offer it to you for what I sold it for (200).
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^ I'll check out the Inspire. If it's AT&T branded, does that mean they'll have a bunch of useless AT&T links/apps all over, and dev features locked? And will AT&T recognize it as a smart phone (because they don't recognize the Desire as smart phone so I get to use the cheap $15 unlimited internet plan).
To be honest I would like to get an HTC if possible because my last 5 phones have been HTC and I'm basically a fanboy now, lol.
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^ I'll check out the Inspire. If it's AT&T branded, does that mean they'll have a bunch of useless AT&T links/apps all over, and dev features locked? And will AT&T recognize it as a smart phone (because they don't recognize the Desire as smart phone so I get to use the cheap $15 unlimited internet plan).
To be honest I would like to get an HTC if possible because my last 5 phones have been HTC and I'm basically a fanboy now, lol.
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AT&T will recognize it as a smart phone, you should be able to keep your data plan though. Make sure they let you keep your unlimited plan, if the associate can't help ask to talk to a manager, they won't force you to use a limited plan if you already have an unlimited plan. Just make sure you keep the plan cause once it's gone you won't get it back.
The Inspire will come with AT&T crap but that's all easily removed through custom ROM's. The Inspire supports most Desire HD ROM's and visa-a-versa. The Inspire/Desire HD has probably the best developer support of any smart phone, it's a good phone, but the battery is small (1230mAh) and has a huge, battery eating 4.3" display. A lot of people complain about the Inspire's battery life, if you need to make it past a day with moderate usage then stay away from it. Still a good phone though.
I currently have the Atrix 4G and I love it, check it out. The Samsung Galaxy S II looks to be a great phone also.
I'm looking up Inspires on eBay and they're ridiculously cheap (around $300 USD), for example http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-Inspire...0600720825?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item43a92719b9
Is this right? When I bought my Desire it was around $600, even the Hero was more than 300, I can't believe the Inspire would be so cheap.
Do branded phones have any features locked, such as usb debugging, installation of non-market apps, etc. or can you do all of those things on them? I am one of those people who likes to stick to stock roms if possible, so I can live with a couple of silly AT&T ringtone apps and whatnot but I can't live with important features missing.
The Inspire is rediculously cheap because it is verging on the older side now after being out for a couple of months, and it isn't dual core. As far as I know, the only locked feature on the Inspire was the install unknown sources, but I think they have already allowed that via an ota update.
About your unlimited plan, yes. You will be able to keep it, and if the rep talking to you says that it isn't possible, ask to talk to their manager or just call back for a different rep. The thing is, your $15 Media Net Unlimited plan is not available for smartphones. They will bump you up the the $30 Unlimited Smartphone plan.
I have the Atrix 4G on AT&T's network. I bought it with a contract ($100) but IIRC they are available online unlocked for $400-600. Really great phone: Lightweight, dual-core, and it looks pretty good too. Although I heard the SGSII was the best Android phone to buy nowadays.
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The Inspire is rediculously cheap because it is verging on the older side now after being out for a couple of months, and it isn't dual core. As far as I know, the only locked feature on the Inspire was the install unknown sources, but I think they have already allowed that via an ota update.
About your unlimited plan, yes. You will be able to keep it, and if the rep talking to you says that it isn't possible, ask to talk to their manager or just call back for a different rep. The thing is, your $15 Media Net Unlimited plan is not available for smartphones. They will bump you up the the $30 Unlimited Smartphone plan.
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Hmm, that's not good. So that puts the actual price of the Inspire around $500 (adding in just under 200 for 1 year of the upgraded plan). Right now since the Desire isn't available here I can use it with the cheap plan and still get 3G. Are there any other comparable phones to the Inspire that AT&T doesn't have and that I can run the cheap plan on?
if you can find an unlocked/unbranded xperia play (aka: playstation phone) you should be able to use it on at&t. the only problem is it only has like 350 MegaBytes of internal storage, but it does come with an 8 GigaByte microsd card. it's my current phone (plus it's rooted {and themed with my own custom yellow glow theme}) it's pretty fast, and with root when you delete all the bloatware it gets almost 2 times the battery life . another thing is it isn't dual core (but who gives a crap with playstation controls) heres more info http://www.sonyericsson.com/play/?cc=us&lc=en&cid=sea_xplaylaunch_us_20110206_Google
note: this is MY opinion (never said anybody else agrees). so if you don't agree, go write in your diary or post your disagreeing opinion elsewhere.
edit: nevermind, figured out what was causing the issue
I'd probably also wait for the Nexus Prime.
And you might want to think about that Xiami M1 phone, that is about to come out, you won't find one, that is able to compete price/perfomance.
We'll have to see, how this one actually turns out to be. It it's good, it will at least replayce MY Desire!
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if you can find an unlocked/unbranded xperia play (aka: playstation phone) you should be able to use it on at&t. the only problem is it only has like 350 MegaBytes of internal storage, but it does come with an 8 GigaByte microsd card. it's my current phone (plus it's rooted {and themed with my own custom yellow glow theme}) it's pretty fast, and with root when you delete all the bloatware it gets almost 2 times the battery life . another thing is it isn't dual core (but who gives a crap with playstation controls) heres more info http://www.sonyericsson.com/play/?cc=us&lc=en&cid=sea_xplaylaunch_us_20110206_Google
note: this is MY opinion (never said anybody else agrees). so if you don't agree, go write in your diary or post your disagreeing opinion elsewhere.
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I wouldn't go for the Xperia Play. There's already been talks about it going to AT&T sometime in Q4 2011, and when it does, they'll likely bump you up to a smartphone plan as well. I got caught with the X10. I picked up an unlocked Rogers version a few months before AT&T released it, and the week before it came out, it detected my IMEI and switched me over.
I have only ever owned HTC smartphones, from the original WinMo 6 Touch through my most recent Thunderbolt. Its upgrade time and I'm basically trying to figure out whether staying with HTC is an option for me.
The problem is that one of my major use cases is on airplanes. I need at a minimum to have a couple 1080p movies, 2-3 ebooks and 3-4 3hr+ playlists locally my phone, so 16GB non-expandable is tough for me. Google Music/Amazon Video/Netflix are awesome, but useless without network connections. On the flip side, I have unlimited data so not worried about keeping everything in the cloud otherwise. Also, I had a Thunderbolt and even with the extended battery I would often get off a plane with <20% battery, and with this phone switching to another fully charged battery isn't really an option. Finally, using my Gingerbread Thunderbolt, I have no faith in HTC updating even flagship phones, which undermines the S4 processor/screen is more future-proof argument.
The major upside of this phone for me is price (vs. the Note II, I would buy unlocked so $100 isn't a huge difference but hey), perfect screen size with lots of real estate but one-handed operation (moreso since I do not carry or use a tablet although I have an iPad), my level of comfort with HTC and the developer community (unlocked bootloader!), and build quality (but not design).
What I'm worried about is that there is no way out with this phone. The shortcomings of the Thunderbolt could be fixed via extended battery and by flashing custom/leaked ROMs.
I know this isn't exactly addressing your issues with the DNA but have you ever thought about investing in a tablet? It seems to me that if you need a portable device to watch multiple videos, read books and listen to music for long lengths of time, the Nexus 7 or maybe 10 would be a better way to go than a phone.
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I know this isn't exactly addressing your issues with the DNA but have you ever thought about investing in a tablet? It seems to me that if you need a portable device to watch multiple videos, read books and listen to music for long lengths of time, the Nexus 7 or maybe 10 would be a better way to go than a phone.
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That's a great suggestion. Getting a Nexus 7 for couch-surfing duties did wonders for my LTE GNex's daily battery life, and I expect it to be a huge asset on cross-country flights as well.
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That's a great suggestion. Getting a Nexus 7 for couch-surfing duties did wonders for my LTE GNex's daily battery life, and I expect it to be a huge asset on cross-country flights as well.
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I seriously thought about getting a tablet (Nexus 4+7 works out cheaper than a Note 2), but generally walk around NYC and don't carry a briefcase. I've always been a bit of a minimalist, which is why I am interested in these phablets in the first place (the screen is large enough to read PDFs and ebooks with ease and nice for video viewing).
I don't carry a 2nd blackberry or anything, so I actually will be using this phone to make phone calls, which is an argument for going Nexus 4+7 instead of the oversized DNA or Note 2. On the other hand, Jawbone makes very nice Bluetooth headsets. I also have such a favorable Verizon contract ($60/month for unlimited data and more minutes and text than I have ever used), that I don't want to switch, especially given how nice it is to have LTE when I end up in places like Milwaukee overnight with useless hotel internet.
The DNA may support OTG mode, what does that mean, with a small adapter you can attach a flash/thumb/usb drive to your phone, you'll be able to stream from this as well. The cables can be as short or long as you want and these would be easily portable. I say MAY because no one seems to know, it's not official but some have gotten it to work
on the flip side, if you're having problems with battery life, an external battery also works, I have one that is about the size of 2 of my fingers put together and it has a 5600mA battery, of course you can't use the USB port for keeping stuff on the phone, but maybe charge it afterwards or while watching a movie that is on your phone perhaps? (alternating between the two)
Some thing like this should solve your battery problems
http://www.brookstone.com/mobile-2600-mah-charger?bkiid=SubCategory_Travel_Batteries_External_Cell_Phone_Battery_Chargers|SubCategoryWidget|802209p&catId=
I'd go to another carrier store and ask to hold a note 2. It's probably the better phone for you imo, unless it doesn't feel comfortable in your hand. If it doesn't and you don't play 3D roaming games nor care too much about the camera, I'd look get a Razr Maxx HD. Plugging the phone into a portable charger is just annoying and you may not see any performance difference with what you do anyways.
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On the flip side, I have unlimited data so not worried about keeping everything in the cloud otherwise.
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I was just wanting to know how you could upgrade to a new phone without losing the unlimited data. I too have the Thunderbolt and am planning on upgrading to the DNA, so how could I stick with my unlimited data? Thanks
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I was just wanting to know how you could upgrade to a new phone without losing the unlimited data. I too have the Thunderbolt and am planning on upgrading to the DNA, so how could I stick with my unlimited data? Thanks
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he stated that he is buying the phone off contract. Doesn't really matter, sounds like Verizon is going to force off contract users off of unlimited data soon enough...
Then those that bought devices off contract to keep it will be all sorts of pissed off.
Why in the world do you need 1080p movies for a 5" screen?
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Why in the world do you need 1080p movies for a 5" screen?
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Need and want can be 2 different things.
For your specific needs, I guess I don't see the DNA being ideal. Between storage and battery life just doesn't seem like a winner. The Screen on the Note II sounds to be very good, and will probably be better all around otherwise if you're comfortable with its size.
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he stated that he is buying the phone off contract. Doesn't really matter, sounds like Verizon is going to force off contract users off of unlimited data soon enough...
Then those that bought devices off contract to keep it will be all sorts of pissed off.
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Yeah, this is why I'm just giving up my unlimited data. Even if they didn't I'd have to use a ton of data to justify paying $400 more for a phone I'll probably upgrade again in a couple years. Right now I only use about 200MB/month and I'm sure I'll use more with a faster 4G phone but I doubt it will be that much more - not enough to justify the money.
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he stated that he is buying the phone off contract. Doesn't really matter, sounds like Verizon is going to force off contract users off of unlimited data soon enough...
Then those that bought devices off contract to keep it will be all sorts of pissed off.
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Do you have any source for your information. I am planning to buy off contract as well.
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Do you have any source for your information. I am planning to buy off contract as well.
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Verizon hasn't said anything, but they also said that anyone with unlimited data would be grandfathered in and be able to upgrade on contract permanently without losing it. Look how long that lasted, and there's nothing stopping them from forcing users with off contract unlimited data to a different plan.
Then again, they are getting a lot more money out of people buying off contract since they are still paying the same price for a plan that was meant to make up for the lowered phone prices. But I still think they are going to pull it.
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Do you have any source for your information. I am planning to buy off contract as well.
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There have been multiple rumors since they changed the rules this summer. Come summer of 2014, no one will be left on contract with unlimited. Had a Verizon rep tell my wife that changes are coming next April. I might wait until then to get new phones.
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Coming from the T-bolt, you will likely be AMAZED. (my $.02).
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Verizon hasn't said anything, but they also said that anyone with unlimited data would be grandfathered in and be able to upgrade on contract permanently without losing it. Look how long that lasted, and there's nothing stopping them from forcing users with off contract unlimited data to a different plan.
Then again, they are getting a lot more money out of people buying off contract since they are still paying the same price for a plan that was meant to make up for the lowered phone prices. But I still think they are going to pull it.
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From a cash flow perspective, having people buy off-contract phones is amazing for phone companies, since it takes them well over a year+ to make money on customers when they upgrade (more for heavily subsidized devices like iPhones, less for mid-range androids and feature phones). Verizon needs cash right now to dividend out and build their network, so I wouldn't be surprised if they continue to allow unlimited data for at least another product cycle (July 2013).
I'm going to AT&T and seeing if I can use the Note 2. If I can, I think that is the phone for me.
Thunderbolt is basically useless now without ICS. Mine lags for minutes when I make an outgoing call and often the keyboard freezes and needs a reset before it works again (stock ROM). It got bad enough that when I travel I switch service to a Droid 3 I have lying around.
I was considering buying a Rezound on Craigslist and I was wondering if anyone had gotten 3G/4G data working on any GSM carriers, or if this was even possible to begin with.
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I was considering buying a Rezound on Craigslist and I was wondering if anyone had gotten 3G/4G data working on any GSM carriers, or if this was even possible to begin with.
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Real 4G (ie. LTE) no, it won't work... some people have been able to do a bunch of NV edits and prop.build tweaks to get 3G working, even HSPA+ but it is not for the faint of heart. REV3NT3CH has been working on a flashable ZIP package to make the changes for any ROM, but I haven't heard any more about in a while... I spent a close to a month working on it and was never able to get better than 2G/EDGE data on AT&T's network and finally gave up.
My honest opinion is if you are going to spend money on a phone for GSM service, get a real GSM phone, the Rezound is a great device and can be hacked a lot if you already have one, but if you are going to buy one for GSM I would look at something else. For something similar on AT&T's network, consider a Samsung Galaxy S2 Skyrocket, you can get it for around the same price as a used Rezound and it is very similar and the developer community is really good. Not sure about a T-Mobile equivalent. I ponied up the extra and grabbed a Nexus 4, if you can wait a few weeks, the Nexus 5 should drop and the 16GB model is expected to be about $299.
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Real 4G (ie. LTE) no, it won't work... some people have been able to do a bunch of NV edits and prop.build tweaks to get 3G working, even HSPA+ but it is not for the faint of heart. REV3NT3CH has been working on a flashable ZIP package to make the changes for any ROM, but I haven't heard any more about in a while... I spent a close to a month working on it and was never able to get better than 2G/EDGE data on AT&T's network and finally gave up.
My honest opinion is if you are going to spend money on a phone for GSM service, get a real GSM phone, the Rezound is a great device and can be hacked a lot if you already have one, but if you are going to buy one for GSM I would look at something else. For something similar on AT&T's network, consider a Samsung Galaxy S2 Skyrocket, you can get it for around the same price as a used Rezound and it is very similar and the developer community is really good. Not sure about a T-Mobile equivalent. I ponied up the extra and grabbed a Nexus 4, if you can wait a few weeks, the Nexus 5 should drop and the 16GB model is expected to be about $299.
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Which is good advice, if I was looking to spend more than $75-100 at the moment. My phone broke and I'd like a midline replacement for it, and there are a few Rezounds on Craigslist in my area, which are at a low price in that spec range.
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Which is good advice, if I was looking to spend more than $75-100 at the moment. My phone broke and I'd like a midline replacement for it, and there are a few Rezounds on Craigslist in my area, which are at a low price in that spec range.
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Tough price range for a comparable phone... I sold one of my Rezounds on local classified ads board for $150 a month or so. But I would assume you can grab a 3G/4G GSM phone for around the same price range, just take a little more homework.
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Tough price range for a comparable phone... I sold one of my Rezounds on local classified ads board for $150 a month or so. But I would assume you can grab a 3G/4G GSM phone for around the same price range, just take a little more homework.
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Time is kind of an issue for me and the pricing is also one. I am going to save money up for a nicer phone at some point, but this is what's available in the price range I can afford in this time range for a phone I don't plan on owning forever.
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Time is kind of an issue for me and the pricing is also one. I am going to save money up for a nicer phone at some point, but this is what's available in the price range I can afford in this time range for a phone I don't plan on owning forever.
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To be honest, if you can't do Verizon post-paid I would skip the Rezound unless you are very skilled at modding Android on a deeper level than root and ROMs or can live without mobile data (voice and SMS will work)...
Using the Rezound on a US GSM carrier with mobile data is very hit and miss and some people can get it to work and others can't.
I love my Rezound, but I have a hard time recommending it for a quick GSM phone.
I know the 6P won't be sold through the carriers, at least not right away. I'm a Tmo subscriber and I was a little disappointed at first but buying the phone and paying for it in full is always the best route.
With that being said are you with Tmo? What area of the country are you in? Having issues or are new services going live? Questions about service with past or the new nexus device? Let's keep each other updated with what's going on with our carrier.
I've had just about every nexus phone while on Tmo. I had spotty service for awhile but over the years service has gotten much better for me in the Orlando area. This past year I've seen almost all the 3g towers turn into LTE. I got to use HD voice for the first time on my nexus 6. VOLTE got turned on. Band 12 going live (although not in my area, I've used it in other FL markets) Going forward to the 6P are we going lose some of these? I've already seen a report that band 12 will not be unlocked at launch for our device. Will volte be available? HD voice? None of these are deal breakers but it would suck to have such a cutting edge device yet it can't access some basic phone functions. What are your thoughts/insight?
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when they see that sales are going down they will be dropping the price and eipin the phone just take a couple months
But i dont want to wait that long.. Ive saved my Jump and wanted the newest nexus again... Damn you
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But i dont want to wait that long.. Ive saved my Jump and wanted the newest nexus again... Damn you
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why even bother with the jump program? buy phone outright and sell old phone. no restrictions, change phones whenever you want and probably cheaper.
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why even bother with the jump program? buy phone outright and sell old phone. no restrictions, change phones whenever you want and probably cheaper.
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I'm not a fan of jump either however not everyone can afford the full price, some people are fortunate to be able to.
I guess it's kinda like leasing your car but of course a way lower price.
I love buying unlocked phones and now that tmobiles prices are so low it really works out
Even with the jump program you are paying full price for the phone. It just gives you the option to trade in without worrying about negative equity, like a car. But I guarantee you the first time you buy a new car cash you'll set yourself up for life to never have a car payment again, this is so much easier to do with a phone... So much easier.
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Even with the jump program you are paying full price for the phone. It just gives you the option to trade in without worrying about negative equity, like a car. But I guarantee you the first time you buy a new car cash you'll set yourself up for life to never have a car payment again, this is so much easier to do with a phone... So much easier.
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I think most people who get the jump program get it because they can't afford to pay the full price up front, even if they are paying the same in the end or maybe sometimes you pay more for a device when you could've gotten an unlocked device (same or better) for cheaper
I actually began my Nexus 6 purchase through finance. I figured hey, it's 0% who cares. I started to think of bills and life from a more DTI based perspective vs my older, borrow at low or no interest and invest to get more mindset.
Once you start paying off everything with a payment (no matter how low the interest) you start to have so much excess cash monthly that you realize WTF you've been doing wrong your whole life. It also makes it a lot easier to save and invest.
Anyway back on topic, I don't think carriers will be getting the 6P. But if anyone did, it would probably be T-Mobile
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if anyone did, it would probably be T-Mobile
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Since the thing will not be supporting band 12 on t-mobile, at least not right away, I'd think not.
Edit: Hah! Soon!
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/3mzygu/google_nexus_team_ama_working_to_get_band_12/
Why pay full price for the phone? I have the original Jump program. So i pay $27/Month. In one year I paid $324 and traded the phone in for the next Nexus. I didnt have to shell out the full $650. I dont know but it works fine for me. Only phone i care about are the nexus devices. Its a Big deal when i can simply walk into the store hand them my old phone keep all my Chargers and accessories and walk out with a new phone paying only taxes..
I just pre-ordered one and I feel that Jump may not offer a good deal. I've been hearing a lot about Google Fi so that does seem like a better option overall. Also, you would lose out on the $50 play credit and three months of free Google Play Music unless you get it before Oct 25. I'll be using mine for T-Mobile and I'd only hold on ordering to look over reviews, but it's a Nexus device so it should be pretty solid. I agree with many in here that not everyone can pay full price, but with Jump you are still paying quite a bit of money. It's just better to buy it up front then sell the old phone after.
One of the things mentioned in the Reddit AMA today was they're attempting to work with TMobile on getting the Band 12 turned on prior to the device getting to everyone. So at least they're acknowledging the issue.
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They're not selling the Nexus 6P in U.S. carrier stores... So we don't have the option to use Jump! or Jump! On Demand. I have a Galaxy S6 on Jump! On Demand that I'm a few months into... I purchased a 6P outright and will use 1 of my 3 upgrades w/ T-Moible to go w/ something else, and not pay a dime at the store. I switch phones a TON so for me Jump! On Demand is awesome. I will say though, once I am done with this current EIP, I will try to stay with unlocked phones and just pay outright for them. My monthly bill will be a lot cheaper.
As far as the band 12 support; if they get it fixed by ship date, great. If not, oh well... I don't have access to band 12 where I am (Columbus, Ohio), so I'm not missing anything if they don't have it fixed. I'm sure when/if it gets activated here this will be fixed.
In the Reddit AMA;
They ignored every question about why they are not selling through US Carriers. This was the most commonly asked question.
I'm like thinking, that's one of the most important questions, why will this not be sold in U.S. Carrier stores ? Especially T-Mobile stores, as they have carried and stocked every single Nexus phone the past six years. I could see Verizon or ATT not selling it, but T-Mobile has been a big supporter of the Nexus phones, as far as carriers go.
So the Nexus 6P will be nowhere to be seen or played with in stores, you just have to hope you think you'll like it and order it online only ? That's crazy. I always want to hold it in hand, mess around it with it for 30 minutes in the store, really get a feel for the phone, before deciding.
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In the Reddit AMA;
They ignored every question about why they are not selling through US Carriers. This was the most commonly asked question.
I'm like thinking, that's one of the most important questions, why will this not be sold in U.S. Carrier stores ? Especially T-Mobile stores, as they have carried and stocked every single Nexus phone the past six years. I could see Verizon or ATT not selling it, but T-Mobile has been a big supporter of the Nexus phones, as far as carriers go.
So the Nexus 6P will be nowhere to be seen or played with in stores, you just have to hope you think you'll like it and order it online only ? That's crazy. I always want to hold it in hand, mess around it with it for 30 minutes in the store, really get a feel for the phone, before deciding.
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I'm sure that They will be available at some point. Google has given exclusivity for the first couple months before, this time it's to themselves. Maybe they want to get the preorders out without a disaster like previous releases. On the bright side we get great pricing compared to the rest of the world
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Yeah, Rumor is they could offer them in stores later this month to avoid the instant rush of phone orders. They sell direct first then allow carries to carry a few models if wanted.
That Reddit AMA was filled with tons of questions asking about U.S. Carrier availability, and they didn't respond once.
Wonder if that got them thinking, hey maybe we should put this out to T-Mobile and other carriers maybe ? I could see that happening after the rush of Play Store orders, and be in stores come December. I bet T-Mobile at least carries it by Christmas, just my guess.
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That Reddit AMA was filled with tons of questions asking about U.S. Carrier availability, and they didn't respond once.
Wonder if that got them thinking, hey maybe we should put this out to T-Mobile and other carriers maybe ? I could see that happening after the rush of Play Store orders, and be in stores come December. I bet T-Mobile at least carries it by Christmas, just my guess.
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I'm wondering if part of the reason is so they can say see how many devices we sold without you, you're not getting customized builds this time.
If they announce carrier availability it would just eat into their own direct sales.
I'd be shocked if this doesn't ultimately get on carriers in a quarter or so.
I'm still upset no Nexus 6P at U.S. Carrier stores, especially T-Mobile.
And I call BS on Google's excuse, that they want full control and no carrier slow downs no carrier involvement mucking things up.
Apple
Carriers don't get in the way of Apple and iOS updates. A Verizon or ATT iPhone 6S get's updated straight from Apple, you don't see Verizon users waiting longer for the iOS update, than an international iPhone user, or Apple having to give the update to ATT first and then let them, hand out the update later to it's customers.
Nope, if you have a Sprint, or T-Mobile, or Verizon iPhone, you just go to iTunes or Apple for the update, and they have the update available at the exact the same time, no matter which carrier phone you own.
My point is, carriers aren't in the way whatsoever, and Apple sells a **** ton of iPhone's through these carriers. How many sales of iPhone's are done directly through the Apple store and site only, like Google wants people to buy the Nexus 6P through the Play Store only ?
Google should sell the Nexus 6P at U.S. Carrier stores, and not give the BS excuse it's because of updates or some crap.