Hey everybody -
This is my first post here. I'm sorry if there is an answer already posted to this and if i'm just reposting, but i haven't seen any of this information anywhere, and apparently i have to make 5 q&a posts before i can start posting stuff where i need too, so i'm trying to throw some useful info to the community to gain this privilage
Anyways, onto the topic -
Many people that are installing a new ROM on there EVO 3D are getting an error when google tries to auto install apps after flashing. The error states that there is not enough space left on their devices to continue installing apps, even though there are reports of users having 700+mb free for app storage. Developers are claiming that it's because you didn't wipe dalvik/cache before flashing. I've found that this is not true, but I do know the fix, but don't completely under stand why this happens.
The fix:
The fix to this problem is a very simple one.
1. Install the rom like you normally would (boot to recovery, NAND backup, wipe data/factory reset, wipe dalvik cache, wipe partition cache, and wipe cache, then flash from zip, then select reboot device)
2. When the phone is booted up, type in all your info as usual to sync your accounts. When your done with this step, you'll notice google tries to start installing all of your apps, which it'll eventually crash on due to space.
3. You can do this before or after it throws you the error message about space, but the next step is reboot your phone back into recovery. From there, you're going to wipe your dalvik cache and cache (again), and then reboot the phone again.
That's it! You should now be able to install all of your apps again without getting storage errors!
I'm not a developer, but if i'm to take a guess at why this happens, i'm guessing something about the install, or maybe even the initial boot process of a rom being ran for the first time, for some reason is flooding our cache space, thus firing false alarms for being out of space. Therefor, by cleaning the cache space after the rom install is completed and booted, the phone no longer notices the space issues. I could be wrong on this, but this seems like a logical answer to me.
If this helps, let me know! Also feel free to correct me if i'm wrong on anything i posted, but this method seems to work for me! If this needs to be in a different category, feel free to move it! As a new member, i'm very limited on where i can post things...
Enjoy your newly rooted and modded EVO 3D!
duble08 said:
Hey everybody -
This is my first post here. I'm sorry if there is an answer already posted to this and if i'm just reposting, but i haven't seen any of this information anywhere, and apparently i have to make 5 q&a posts before i can start posting stuff where i need too, so i'm trying to throw some useful info to the community to gain this privilage
Anyways, onto the topic -
Many people that are installing a new ROM on there EVO 3D are getting an error when google tries to auto install apps after flashing. The error states that there is not enough space left on their devices to continue installing apps, even though there are reports of users having 700+mb free for app storage. Developers are claiming that it's because you didn't wipe dalvik/cache before flashing. I've found that this is not true, but I do know the fix, but don't completely under stand why this happens.
The fix:
The fix to this problem is a very simple one.
1. Install the rom like you normally would (boot to recovery, NAND backup, wipe data/factory reset, wipe dalvik cache, wipe partition cache, and wipe cache, then flash from zip, then select reboot device)
2. When the phone is booted up, type in all your info as usual to sync your accounts. When your done with this step, you'll notice google tries to start installing all of your apps, which it'll eventually crash on due to space.
3. You can do this before or after it throws you the error message about space, but the next step is reboot your phone back into recovery. From there, you're going to wipe your dalvik cache and cache (again), and then reboot the phone again.
That's it! You should now be able to install all of your apps again without getting storage errors!
I'm not a developer, but if i'm to take a guess at why this happens, i'm guessing something about the install, or maybe even the initial boot process of a rom being ran for the first time, for some reason is flooding our cache space, thus firing false alarms for being out of space. Therefor, by cleaning the cache space after the rom install is completed and booted, the phone no longer notices the space issues. I could be wrong on this, but this seems like a logical answer to me.
If this helps, let me know! Also feel free to correct me if i'm wrong on anything i posted, but this method seems to work for me! If this needs to be in a different category, feel free to move it! As a new member, i'm very limited on where i can post things...
Enjoy your newly rooted and modded EVO 3D!
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Welcome to the community, and nice first post! I haven't had the issue that you're referring to, but I have indeed noticed others having the issue. Good to know that fixes it up, in case I ever encounter it. Thanks.
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Welcome to the community, and nice first post! I haven't had the issue that you're referring to, but I have indeed noticed others having the issue. Good to know that fixes it up, in case I ever encounter it. Thanks.
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no problem! this community has helped me TONS in the past, even though i haven't said anything about it (due to not being able to post in developer threads yet). I reflashed and wiped my phone about 4-5 times before realizing that the cache had to be cleaned AFTER the install and first boot of the new rom, and all the dev's kept stating it was from not wiping prior to flashing, which i did every time. Hopefully this will save some people time and headaches and i'm sure the dev's will soon find a fix to this, as they seem to work very fast at finding bugs and cleaning em up.
more or less i would say its because the market will download apps to the cache first...then install them to the phone...
the insufficient space is mostly what happens when the cache gets filled.
thats my educated guess on the matter.
also welcome to xda. you're gonna like it here
When I do this, it forgets all my 130 apps and I have to go look for them manually. Only ROMs that are using the new market do this to me.
Welcome to xda.
Another suggestion to add to the nice info here is. When you boot up a rom for the first time dont sign in. Immediately go to settings/accounts & sync and uncheck auto sync. Then head to settings/privacy then uncheck automatically restore. Then sign in. This is a option for anyone who doesn't want to reboot.
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newkidd said:
more or less i would say its because the market will download apps to the cache first...then install them to the phone...
the insufficient space is mostly what happens when the cache gets filled.
thats my educated guess on the matter.
also welcome to xda. you're gonna like it here
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that would make a lot of sense as well - if that's the case, maybe people should let google market crash the cache before they clear it out again? that's what i did when i got it working... it was one of those things where i just watched and wondered, "is it going to do it all this time?", and of course when it didn't, that's when i discovered re-clearing the cache again in recovery fixes it. I noticed that by clearing the application cache (settings/applications/manage programs/market/clear cache) the problem still persists, and the only way to get google apps to install again is by clearing cache in recovery, which made me think it was an installation/boot thing. but i'm still learning, like many of us here
thanks for the input!
awesomeindeed said:
When I do this, it forgets all my 130 apps and I have to go look for them manually. Only ROMs that are using the new market do this to me.
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this is an issue i noticed as well - i had to re-add my apps manually after it only added 24 of the 120 i had going. but hey, beggers can't be choosers, and i'm just mostly happy that i got a new rom going with everything functioning properly within 2 weeks of the phones release!
If anyone knows how to re-start the app sync succesfully without space errors, that might be good info to include in this post
awesomeindeed said:
When I do this, it forgets all my 130 apps and I have to go look for them manually. Only ROMs that are using the new market do this to me.
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Did you clear the cache or data in the app itself or from recovery?? If you clear cache from recovery, this shouldn't happen. If it still does, usually downloading another app rebuilds the market cache.
What you can do to fix it is use Titanium Backup and there is a setting: Menu > More > Market Doctor and it fixes this issue. But, I think it only works in the paid version. It's well worth the few bucks though!
-viperboy- said:
Did you clear the cache or data in the app itself or from recovery?? If you clear cache from recovery, this shouldn't happen. If it still does, usually downloading another app rebuilds the market cache.
What you can do to fix it is use Titanium Backup and there is a setting: Menu > More > Market Doctor and it fixes this issue. But, I think it only works in the paid version. It's well worth the few bucks though!
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Recovery. Downloading another app doesn't rebuild the cache either. Now it's gotten to the point where no ROM will restore any of my apps at all, it basically thinks I've never downloaded anything. So now I've gotta try and remember the 130 or so apps I had installed.
Not complaining, just an observation. One of the caveats of rooting a new device
Welcome to the community.
A really easy way to fix this is to just clear the cache and data for the Market in Settings > Applications, and that has worked for numerous people using my ROM but I don't think it'd be any different for any other ROM.
empiire said:
Welcome to the community.
A really easy way to fix this is to just clear the cache and data for the Market in Settings > Applications, and that has worked for numerous people using my ROM but I don't think it'd be any different for any other ROM.
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I tried this method on vipers rc1.2 and supra ROM, and it didn't fix it for either - I continued to get insufficient space warnings, even after rebooting. The only thing that worked for my device was going into recovery to clear the cache.
You can also go into terminal emulator and delete the Download.apk files in the cache.
You'd think Google would be a little smarter at this. All the market would need to do is download fewer apps at a time, as the files are cleared once the installation is complete.
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I feel a s0be market fix coming on. Although I have not seen the issue, you could pwn the cache and symlink it out of /data and into /system. A genious linux guy, seriously, genious, made this hack back on the hero, fixed market download errors EVERY time.
See this post:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11055157&postcount=4650
If you like it, go find s0be and thank him
duble08 said:
I tried this method on vipers rc1.2 and supra ROM, and it didn't fix it for either - I continued to get insufficient space warnings, even after rebooting. The only thing that worked for my device was going into recovery to clear the cache.
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You could try reflashing the rom and signing into your google account right away. And let it sync. Just a thought.
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laie1472 said:
You could try reflashing the rom and signing into your google account right away. And let it sync. Just a thought.
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That won't make any difference if there is no room to actually store the downloads. Downloads from the Market go into /cache while downloading and then move to /data/app or /system/app, depending on the app. Hence why clearing cache fixes it.
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You could try reflashing the rom and signing into your google account right away. And let it sync. Just a thought.
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That's what causes the market problem - I tried wiping and flashing both roms multiple times with the same result - if you flash a new ROM with the new market, and your market tries to sync a large number of apps, its going to flood the cache space and stop allowing the installation of apps until you go into recovery and clear the cache there... Then it all works fine, except for having to add all your apps one by one.
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That's what causes the market problem - I tried wiping and flashing both roms multiple times with the same result - if you flash a new ROM with the new market, and your market tries to sync a large number of apps, its going to flood the cache space and stop allowing the installation of apps until you go into recovery and clear the cache there... Then it all works fine, except for having to add all your apps one by one.
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Well have you tried my suggestion I posted before the last one???
As in this
Another suggestion to add to the nice info here is. When you boot up a rom for the first time dont sign in. Immediately go to settings/accounts & sync and uncheck auto sync. Then head to settings/privacy then uncheck automatically restore. Then sign in. This is a option for anyone who doesn't want to reboot.
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laie1472 said:
Well have you tried my suggestion I posted before the last one???
As in this
Another suggestion to add to the nice info here is. When you boot up a rom for the first time dont sign in. Immediately go to settings/accounts & sync and uncheck auto sync. Then head to settings/privacy then uncheck automatically restore. Then sign in. This is a option for anyone who doesn't want to reboot.
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I tried something similar, but not exactly like you said earlier. I set my accounts to sync, but immediately went into the market while it was syncing, and cancelled everything. This would've still left the user picking each app to re-download one by one, because I believe there's no way to restart the app sync. I ended up buying titanium, and used that to put all my apps back on - its much less of a headache.
Alright guys, I'm in need of some help.
I've been flashing MIUI on my Fascinate for months now and recently I've run into a problem. On RickS' 1.12.9 I'm getting a lot of FCs. About 24-48 hours after flashing and setting up my phone I get a notification at boot that every GApp along with TB, Facebook, Script Manager have "stopped unexpectedly" and need to be force closed. My flash process is as follows:
1) ODIN either DL09 or EH03
2) ODIN CWM4
3) 3 finger boot to CWM and flash RickS 1.12.9
4) Everything is fine up to here
5) TB - Restore missing user apps (just apps, not data)
6) Set up Supercharger script (update9 RC5 test 2), Voltage Control OC/UV, Glitch kernel leakage/screen state
7) Reboot
8) Wait about a day and a couple of reboots later for the force close party to start.
Has anyone run into a similar problem? I've tried a few solutions (i.e. mixing up my flash routine, fix permissions...)
Thanks,
EJ
EDIT: Also, whenever I flash weblexa's builds after step 7 I get stuck in a bootloop. I'm going to try to just flash it and reboot to see if I don't get stuck (which, if I don't probably means that something I'm doing while setting up my apps and such is the cause of the problems).
.Ejekt said:
Alright guys, I'm in need of some help.
I've been flashing MIUI on my Fascinate for months now and recently I've run into a problem. On RickS' 1.12.9 I'm getting a lot of FCs. About 24-48 hours after flashing and setting up my phone I get a notification at boot that every GApp along with TB, Facebook, Script Manager have "stopped unexpectedly" and need to be force closed. My flash process is as follows:
1) ODIN either DL09 or EH03
2) ODIN CWM4
3) 3 finger boot to CWM and flash RickS 1.12.9
4) Everything is fine up to here
5) TB - Restore missing user apps (just apps, not data)
6) Set up Supercharger script (update9 RC5 test 2), Voltage Control OC/UV, Glitch kernel leakage/screen state
7) Reboot
8) Wait about a day and a couple of reboots later for the force close party to start.
Has anyone run into a similar problem? I've tried a few solutions (i.e. mixing up my flash routine, fix permissions...)
Thanks,
EJ
EDIT: Also, whenever I flash weblexa's builds after step 7 I get stuck in a bootloop. I'm going to try to just flash it and reboot to see if I don't get stuck (which, if I don't probably means that something I'm doing while setting up my apps and such is the cause of the problems).
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I have had this same issue, and for months it drove me nuts cause I couldn't figure out the problem.
It didn't happen so much with all google apps, mainly the market, but I did get it on others.
What used to work for the market, set your language in the phone settings. Not market settings, the phone. I set mine to English (United States) and I didn't get a FC on market since.
With other google apps, or other apps in general there are a couple a things you can try.
1. If you changed any permissions, i.e. disabled apps from loading on boot, turn them back on 1 at a time. When I disable Google Talk from loading.. I get FC's.
2. Try a clearing data/cache for the app and re-installing over the app... or clearing data/cache and uninstall... and re-install.
3. Have you changed your screen DPI? Below 190ish causes problems for me, like if I dial a number it FC's.
There is a couple more, I just got out of class and can't think of em for the life of me. I will post when it comes to me.
Hope this helps!
Maniac
MrManiacNF said:
I have had this same issue, and for months it drove me nuts cause I couldn't figure out the problem.
It didn't happen so much with all google apps, mainly the market, but I did get it on others.
What used to work for the market, set your language in the phone settings. Not market settings, the phone. I set mine to English (United States) and I didn't get a FC on market since.
With other google apps, or other apps in general there are a couple a things you can try.
1. If you changed any permissions, i.e. disabled apps from loading on boot, turn them back on 1 at a time. When I disable Google Talk from loading.. I get FC's.
2. Try a clearing data/cache for the app and re-installing over the app... or clearing data/cache and uninstall... and re-install.
3. Have you changed your screen DPI? Below 190ish causes problems for me, like if I dial a number it FC's.
There is a couple more, I just got out of class and can't think of em for the life of me. I will post when it comes to me.
Hope this helps!
Maniac
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Thanks for the quick reply!
1) No permissions were changed.
2) I tried wiping davik/cache. As for the individual apps, the vast majority of the ones that are FCing are system apps; uninstalling isn't exactly an option unless I just remove them from the rom.
3) DPI hasn't been touched.
-EJ
I would be willing to bet you have alot of apps installed and your datadata folder is full. There is a thread on rootzwiki on how to fix this if uninstalling or moving apps to sd is not an option for you.
Not only will My Galaxy S2 not let me install new apps (trying to install VX Connectbot at a little over 800K) although it has 1.97 GB of internal storage space free, it won't let me update four apps either. They were sitting there trying to update for about half an hour before I gave up.
There's nothing wrong with the (Wifi) Internet Connection, as proved by other apps on the phone as well as by the Google Play Store updater.
If I go into Settings, Apps to look at the Play Store entry, it never finishes updating the Cache and Data storage figures, so the 'Clear Data' button is greyed out. If it wasn't I could clear the data and force the app to re-download it from Google's server. I've also tried rebooting but this makes no difference.
I really don't want to have to do a factory reset to fix this so I'd be grateful for any ideas. The phone is running stock Jelly Bean supplied by Samsung.
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Not only will My Galaxy S2 not let me install new apps (trying to install VX Connectbot at a little over 800K) although it has 1.97 GB of internal storage space free, it won't let me update four apps either. They were sitting there trying to update for about half an hour before I gave up.
There's nothing wrong with the (Wifi) Internet Connection, as proved by other apps on the phone as well as by the Google Play Store updater.
If I go into Settings, Apps to look at the Play Store entry, it never finishes updating the Cache and Data storage figures, so the 'Clear Data' button is greyed out. If it wasn't I could clear the data and force the app to re-download it from Google's server. I've also tried rebooting but this makes no difference.
I really don't want to have to do a factory reset to fix this so I'd be grateful for any ideas. The phone is running stock Jelly Bean supplied by Samsung.
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I don't think Stock JB is rolled out yet by Samsung. But anyways try to clear cache and dalvik cache from recovery. This mostly resolves issues in any ROM.
Secondly, what are you referring to when you mention internal storage? If it's data partition then 1.97 is total size and not free. So please check that.
Lastly what ROM are you coming from? If its ICS then a factory reset is strongly recommended.
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acekay said:
I don't think Stock JB is rolled out yet by Samsung. But anyways try to clear cache and dalvik cache from recovery. This mostly resolves issues in any ROM.
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Sorry for the confusion. I'm trying to handle a million things at the same time, which is always when something else goes wrong. It is, of course, running ICS 4.0.4. I thought about clearing the cache via recovery and I'll do that if I don't find another solution. The phone won't be out of action for too long.
Secondly, what are you referring to when you mention internal storage? If it's data partition then 1.97 is total size and not free. So please check that.
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Ooops! Quoted the wrong figure. There's 834 MB free.
Lastly what ROM are you coming from? If its ICS then a factory reset is strongly recommended.
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It was running Gingerbread when I got it but I did the factory reset before doing an OTA update to ICS.
No issues
Since you are now on 4.0.4 do not do a factory reset since your kernel might have the Brick bug.
There are threads that provide steps on re flashing ROM over 4.0.4. You will need to first flash a custom kernel that does not have this bug like Siyah or cf-root and then flash a ROM.
Just ensure that you follow the steps properly to get a clean install.
Edit: Check below thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756242
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I powered down and booted into Recovery, wiped the cache, and rebooted. It only took about 40 seconds to reboot which seems strange to me as under 2.2 and, I think, 2.3, it took a few minutes to rebuild the cache. Then the first thing that happens on keying in my pin and reaching the home page, I get the message, "Unfortunately, eBay has stopped." Maybe this has something to do with the problem, maybe it doesn't.
One other thing I noticed earlier but didn't mention as it didn't seem relevant is that some apps have changed their name in Settings, Applications. For example, Picshop Lite is now listed as air.ca.esdot.PicShop.Lite.
Anyway, it has made no difference. I look at any app in the list and it sits there saying "Computing...". I can force-stop running apps but I can't install apps, uninstall apps, or update apps. I'm going to leave this overnight (it's late here) and if I can't think of anything else before tomorrow I'll have to do a factory reset and reinstall everything.
Thanks, acekay, your post appeared while I was still editing mine. I knew absolutely nothing about this bug so you might have saved me from bricking the phone. The page you linked to mentions CWM. Since mine is a Samsung stock ROM it would be the stock recovery I'd be using. Is this likely to brick the phone? I guess it's better to be on the safe side and follow the instructions.
I'm also wondering about my legal position here. I got the phone from Virgin Mobile (UK) on a monthly plan. It was running Gingerbread before I did the OTA update to ICS and the update went OK. If the phone messes up and I do a factory reset and that bricks the phone, who is responsible, I wonder, Virgin Mobile or Samsung...
It took some lateral thinking but I think I've solved it. I powered down the phone, took out the micro-SD card, and powered up again. I went into Settings, Applications, Google Play Store and cleared the Data. I then ran the Play Store app and ran the four updates that were pending and everything went OK, so I tried installing VX Connectbot and that went OK, too, as did uninstalling the original Connectbot. As a precaution I uninstalled the eBay app just in case that was causing the problem. It's possible that somehow the eBay app got installed onto the SD card in error and that might have something to do with it stopping with an error every time I rebooted the phone.
I've noticed that the names in Settings, Applications are all now back to normal so I'm guessing that in fact it was something in Play Store's data that was messed up. Of course, that might have been caused by the eBay app. <Sarah Connor> God, a person could go crazy thinking about this. </Sarah Connor>
Anyway, thanks again, acekay. Working through my problem and your responses led to a solution.
Good to know its solved. So the issue was with moving the apps to SD . Better still that you tried this before a reset.
In case you plan on playing with custom ROMs in future just keep this bug in mind. Better to be cautious than sorry.
Cheers...
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So the issue was with moving the apps to SD .
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Well, I can't be sure. I'm nowhere near needing to move apps to the card yet, and since I've uninstalled the eBay app I've no way of knowing if that's where it was. Or if it was causing the problem. But I do know that I won't be staying on ICS forever. If Samsung ever get round to giving us JB, I'll update to that. If they don't I'll look for a non-stock (and non-Touchwiz, thankfully) ROM. So thanks for telling me about the bug.
Same problem with SGS2 4.1.2, stock rooted rom. No external SD card.
I noticed one thing. When I do the following:
Settings->Application manager->All
it displays about 200M free and 1.7GB used, but after few seconds it changes to about 450M free and 1.5G used.
At the same time it (long pressing home button and select memory usage->storage) shows 1.77GB/1.97GB free memory of system storage. So only about 200M is free. The same result is obtained in Teminal Emulator by inputting DF command. So it is very strange that in Application manager the free system memory is increased from 200M to 450M but in terminal and memory manager system manager is constant 200M.
So what the algorithm to solve the problem of install or update apps from market?
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Same problem with SGS2 4.1.2, stock rooted rom. No external SD card.
I noticed one thing. When I do the following:
Settings->Application manager->All
it displays about 200M free and 1.7GB used, but after few seconds it changes to about 450M free and 1.5G used.
At the same time it (long pressing home button and select memory usage->storage) shows 1.77GB/1.97GB free memory of system storage. So only about 200M is free. The same result is obtained in Teminal Emulator by inputting DF command. So it is very strange that in Application manager the free system memory is increased from 200M to 450M but in terminal and memory manager system manager is constant 200M.
So what the algorithm to solve the problem of install or update apps from market?
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Try clearing cache using some application like ES Task Manager, I had useless cache data of about 400Mb once and the biggest contributor was chrome at 100Mb.. And try using apps like SD Maid which will help you clean out clutter.
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So the other day i flashed a new ROM i forget which one (flashaholic)
Anyway when it loaded the initial setup enter gmail etc.
The screen started flickering then turned off it done this each time i turned the screen on
I rebooted it done the same again
After i eventually got it setup it stopped
I have since flashed several other roms Dual boot etc.
Some of these roms i have used before with no problems BUT
Now the roms seem to run fine for the better part but become unresponsive for a few seconds when installing apps from market
I use go backup and phone screen has turned of in the middle of restore several time with several roms and wont come back on unless i reboot
I have tried alternative backup restore apps with the same outcome
It seems my internal memory has suffered some sort of problem as these problems only seem to occur when the internal memory is being written to
For the record i use superwipe script before each rom install
Anyone else experience anything like this
The short "stuttering" when installing an app from Play Store also happens to me, but well not really a big deal.
Did you try to flash a stock rom and stock kernel to start with? In addition maybe a mega wipe would also help to format all partitions (except the important once of course).
I believe it is the megawipe script i am using the problem persists when apps are updating phone becomes unresponsive
It reminds me of my HD2 days when the system was installed on both the internal and external memory
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The short "stuttering" when installing an app from Play Store also happens to me, but well not really a big deal.
Likewise over the last few versions of JB #Especially on multiple installs .
Same on Note 10.1 so it looks like a Google problem .
jje
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