Gentlemen, I have a stock, unrooted Verizon Galaxy S4 and it just started prompting me for the dreaded update. I've been planning to root but just haven't gotten around to it yet, and I've heard that it can eventually just start installing itself if you keep deferring it. Is that true, and if so, is there a way to prevent that from happening short of rooting (which again, I plan on doing, but probably won't get around to until next week)?
If it's not and I have to root to block the update from installing and therefore losing root, what's the process for that?
Muchas gracias in advance. Apologies if this has been answered in other threads, didn't find it in a quick search.
Rooting is super easy and takes less than a half hour. This is the guide I followed and had no issue http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2290798. Freeze sdm 1.0 after root and your safe from the update.
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Ryno77 said:
Rooting is super easy and takes less than a half hour. This is the guide I followed and had no issue http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2290798. Freeze sdm 1.0 after root and your safe from the update.
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Freeze it using Titanium Backup? Just to make sure I understand correctly.
Yeah, or my back up pro... Anything that freezes system apps will work.
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Turn airplane mode on until you root, seriously if you care about root or customization, root and install custom recovery ASAP.
*Then its important you Freeze the SDM app* As Ryno mentioned, this is what gives the ota update notification.
You can do all other customization like freezing bloat, installing custom roms, kernels, etc. Later.
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Surge1223 said:
Turn airplane mode on until you root, seriously if you care about root or customization, root and install custom recovery ASAP.
*Then its important you Freeze the SDM app* As Ryno mentioned, this is what gives the ota update notification.
You can do all other customization like freezing bloat, installing custom roms, kernels, etc. Later.
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Guys, going for it now based on your advice. Much thanks for the quick responses.
Surge1223 said:
Turn airplane mode on until you root, seriously if you care about root or customization, root and install custom recovery ASAP.
*Then its important you Freeze the SDM app* As Ryno mentioned, this is what gives the ota update notification.
You can do all other customization like freezing bloat, installing custom roms, kernels, etc. Later.
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Does he need to freeze the app? I've been rooted with a custom recovery and haven't gotten an OTA update notification at all.
Yeah if you dont freeze/rename sdm.apk youll eventually get nagged about it. Some people have reported still getting the update with it froze so I renamed mine before I started running synergy
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hexitnow said:
Yeah if you dont freeze/rename sdm.apk youll eventually get nagged about it. Some people have reported still getting the update with it froze so I renamed mine before I started running synergy
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Okay, rooted, installed Titanium Backup and froze it ... thanks for pushing me to go ahead, guys. Better to just get it out of the way and make sure. How would I go about renaming it as you mention?
I used root explorer to rename it to sdm.apk.bak
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This was beyond helpful! Many thanks!
Sure is good to have no update software pop ups
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Yeah if you dont freeze/rename sdm.apk youll eventually get nagged about it. Some people have reported still getting the update with it froze so I renamed mine before I started running synergy
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Can I assume that this will still work to block the latest KitKat update. I read another thread that talked about needing to delete two files ‘fota.client.apk’ and ‘fwupgrade.apk’. Is that necessary, or am I good just freezing that SDM app. I will probably rename it as well. Do I need to back everything up before I rename it?
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Im curious because it popped up on my phone and i dont want to lose root or brick my phone or any issues i read that are occurring. VZW got me on my tbolt a couple yrs ago and it got stuck bootlooping they pushed the update when iwas sleep and that almost happened last night with my dna, i hought devs remove the ota in the roms
I'm on viper rom, and the latest update for that rom stops updates. Don't know about other roms.
If you have a custom recovery (clockwork or twrp) I don't think the update from Verizon will even work, but your phone may still attempt to do the update.
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Pull down your notification bar and click Settings, then Apps, Running Apps, then select HTC Settings (I think. It will have a green sync icon.) and click stop.
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OTA
After it downloads you should be able to Defer the update until 2/24. I do not know yet if you can continue to Defer the update after 2/24, but it will at least give you some time to Flash a Custom ROM that will turn off OTAs.
You can just flash the zip by nitsuj its a mod to stop this
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MustafaHadaKing said:
You can just flash the zip by nitsuj its a mod to stop this
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Thanks i turned my mobile data off so it wontupdate these douches pushed it thru which reconnected my data
the update notice screen just popped up on my phone with a count down and i just pressed back and i guess it didnt update atm.. do you guys think this update will interfere with my PDAnet? im on the unlimited plan btw.
Where is the file?
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You can just flash the zip by nitsuj its a mod to stop this
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Where can I find this file? I did some searching but don't know exactly where to get it.
Thanks!
stockjos said:
Where can I find this file? I did some searching but don't know exactly where to get it.
Thanks!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2149417
I know I am being slow, but I kept putting that OTA on hold for some time and turns out I can't install it because I had installed Exynos Abuse (back when the vulnerability wasn't patched yet) and this, of course, prevents the successful installation of OTA update.
What are my options given that I am more or less okay with the stock ROM? I am open to better options, of course, but the main point is to get the update on my Note II and get on with my life.
Any input will be greatly appreciated.
Buy titanium backup pro and freeze sdm1.0 I think it is?
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Zealus said:
I know I am being slow, but I kept putting that OTA on hold for some time and turns out I can't install it because I had installed Exynos Abuse (back when the vulnerability wasn't patched yet) and this, of course, prevents the successful installation of OTA update.
What are my options given that I am more or less okay with the stock ROM? I am open to better options, of course, but the main point is to get the update on my Note II and get on with my life.
Any input will be greatly appreciated.
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If you own my My Backup Pro, you can use that as an alternative to Titanium Backup Pro.
Any other options? Like return to stock and let OTA in? What are implications of that - would I still be able to root?
What is the latest Android version available for Verizon's Note II, is it 4.1.2 or 4.2.x ?
reading is fundamental.
Zealus said:
I know I am being slow, but I kept putting that OTA on hold for some time and turns out I can't install it because I had installed Exynos Abuse (back when the vulnerability wasn't patched yet) and this, of course, prevents the successful installation of OTA update.
What are my options given that I am more or less okay with the stock ROM? I am open to better options, of course, but the main point is to get the update on my Note II and get on with my life.
Any input will be greatly appreciated.
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use any root explorer and and the extension .bak to the files smd.apk ,fwupgrade.apk, and keynote,apk they are in system app
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use any root explorer and and the extension .bak to the files smd.apk ,fwupgrade.apk, and keynote,apk they are in system app
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The only needed one is sdm. Fwupgrade is for allshare and what is keynote.apk? I just checked a stock zip I have and there is no such thing
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The only needed one is sdm. Fwupgrade is for allshare and what is keynote.apk? I just checked a stock zip I have and there is no such thing
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well mine had all three files im was just posting what worked for me
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well mine had all three files im was just posting what worked for me
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Okay, I was just letting him know that's overkill and can break other things. All that is needed is sdm. I'm so curious what keynote is, there's a keychain.apk but that's for storing passwords.
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So this morning I start looking at my S4 and each time I wake the device up the OTA update pops up EVERY time.
Anyone else experiencing this?
Quite annoying.
Looks like I'll be rooting my phone today.
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Not me. I took the OTS and used VooDoo to retain root. you'll need to root and freeze SDM.
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Yeah I have a mac for my main computer. I'm gonna have to dig out the old Dell to root this thing.
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My S4 is also rooted and I'm getting reminders to update via the OTA update like every 30 seconds. Do I need to unroot before I install the update? If so how do I do this? I'm running the stock ROM. I just rooted to do backups and to have more Tasker options. Thanks!
jmed999 said:
My S4 is also rooted and I'm getting reminders to update via the OTA update like every 30 seconds. Do I need to unroot before I install the update? If so how do I do this? I'm running the stock ROM. I just rooted to do backups and to have more Tasker options. Thanks!
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If you want to retain root do not update to the new OTA. Find the OTA blocker hack or install a rom with it built in.
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If you want to retain root do not update to the new OTA. Find the OTA blocker hack or install a rom with it built in.
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Thanks for the reply! I would like to unroot and do the OTA update. Do you have a link on how to do this?
jmed999 said:
Thanks for the reply! I would like to unroot and do the OTA update. Do you have a link on how to do this?
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I'll look it up and get back to you in a min. But something else to think about us give the rom developers some time and they should the roms updated to the new OTA
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Are you sure? You will not be able to root anymore.
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jmed999 said:
Thanks for the reply! I would like to unroot and do the OTA update. Do you have a link on how to do this?
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Here is a good source to follow for unrooting, unbricking and returning to stock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxNPHKKpvtQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
If you want to root it again you will have to wait for the new OTA to be rooted.
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Addiso said:
Are you sure? You will not be able to root anymore.
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At this time, if you take the new OTA, you will not be able to root again or unlock the bootloader. A few have reported that they were able to maintain root with voodoo but the custom revovery is lost forever at this time. There is a nice bounty growing for an unlock so hopefully someone will figure out how to unlock this thing.
skiddingus said:
At this time, if you take the new OTA, you will not be able to root again or unlock the bootloader. A few have reported that they were able to maintain root with voodoo but the custom revovery is lost forever at this time. There is a nice bounty growing for an unlock so hopefully someone will figure out how to unlock this thing.
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What he said. If you made those backups with a custom recovery you won't be able to use them until the devs figure out another work around. This might take some time... That is if ever. If you're talking about titanium backup than just root should do. But right now if you ever loose root or need to Odin back because of something you might loose root for good.... Something to think about
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For those of us who have root and want to keep it, it looks like VZN is making it a pain in the sitting spot.....
The notification is persistent and only allows me to defer it until later today, so I am scrambling to find a way. I installed OTA Rootkeeper (aka Voodoo) and it includes the notification that that it is "Useless with Samsung phones updated via KIES or ODIN...." or "....any device flashing the entire system partition.."
I have made a "protected su copy" using Voodoo, and taken all backups with Titanium. I am not sure if there is anything else I can do at this point.
I would like to stop the update from happening, but have not seen a definite way to do that.
There is a Samsung Galaxy S 3 OTA blocker, but I doubt it will work for the S 4.
If anyone knows how to stop this pain in #$$ update, I would love to try it.
Unicorn512 said:
For those of us who have root and want to keep it, it looks like VZN is making it a pain in the sitting spot.....
The notification is persistent and only allows me to defer it until later today, so I am scrambling to find a way. I installed OTA Rootkeeper (aka Voodoo) and it includes the notification that that it is "Useless with Samsung phones updated via KIES or ODIN...." or "....any device flashing the entire system partition.."
I have made a "protected su copy" using Voodoo, and taken all backups with Titanium. I am not sure if there is anything else I can do at this point.
I would like to stop the update from happening, but have not seen a definite way to do that.
There is a Samsung Galaxy S 3 OTA blocker, but I doubt it will work for the S 4.
If anyone knows how to stop this pain in #$$ update, I would love to try it.
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Using titanium just freeze sdm 1.0 and your update notifications should stop.
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Using titanium just freeze sdm 1.0 and your update notifications should stop.
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This removed the notification instantly. Thanks!
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Ryno77 said:
Using titanium just freeze sdm 1.0 and your update notifications should stop.
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This is what I did as well. Works perfectly. No more update alert.
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This is what I did as well. Works perfectly. No more update alert.
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I have titanium but I don't know how to do this. Can anyone help? Thanks!
jmed999 said:
I have titanium but I don't know how to do this. Can anyone help? Thanks!
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1)open tibu
2)press the backup/restore tab(middle one)
3)Scroll down and press sdm 1.0
4) when the popup ui apears select "freeze"
5)Done!
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1)open tibu
2)press the backup/restore tab(middle one)
3)Scroll down and press sdm 1.0
4) when the popup ui apears select "freeze"
5)Done!
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Thanks! It worked! Now what?
How do we get the updated stuff? My phone is rooted but no custom ROM. I had a custom rom on a previous phone and it seemed like it always needed maintenance and I'm not willing to spend that kind of time with this phone. Seemed like something was always going wrong. Can I keep root but also get the updates as they roll out for my S4? Sounds like my only option is to unroot and update.
Thoughts?
Thanks again!
I have a galaxy s4 for verizon. I rooted it around May 25 using something called motochopper which I think used a mostly stock rom. Around mid July I started getting a message pop up to update my system software. So far I have not done this because I read it would remove root. I would like to keep my phone rooted and either remove the message to update or else find out how I can update and then re-root. The issue is one time I press the install update by accident and thankfully it gave an error which prevented my phone from updating so i am not even sure how to do this. I am not very experienced with this sort of thing and I really have no idea about all of the different types of roms out there. Can somebody point me in the right direction to a guide?
I have the ATT I337 S4 but check out the Verizon forum every so often. If you have "root" and a "recovery" with "Loki doki" than I would flash a Rom u might take interest in.most roms have the update option blocked. Have a backup made in case u don't like what u flash.read and follow all install procedures for each Rom/kernel.
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I originally used the app Titanium backup to freeze the update app (since I use Titanium backup anyway). Go to backup/restore and scroll down to SDM 1.0 and freeze it.
But I also believe you can disable the app by long pressing the update notification, clicking app info and disabling it there.
duckworth has the right idea. Freeze SDM 1.0 with TiBu and also freeze FWupdate. There is also a way to delete the downloaded update from your phone. Can't remember where its located though.
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iwearthebelt said:
duckworth has the right idea. Freeze SDM 1.0 with TiBu and also freeze FWupdate. There is also a way to delete the downloaded update from your phone. Can't remember where its located though.
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Data/fota is where its located
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Man it's nice to know how to do all that freezing rite,than when your all done u finally decide u want to flash a Rom.all the extra work just to flash a Rom that has the OTA update blocked built in.
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Thanks I did this and it worked. Now what I wonder is if I just keep the original ROM which I rooted, is this going to be a problem 2+ years from now when Android is at 5.X or 6.X and I am still running 4.2.
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duckworth has the right idea. Freeze SDM 1.0 with TiBu and also freeze FWupdate. There is also a way to delete the downloaded update from your phone. Can't remember where its located though.
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The Rom I am on had the update notification removed automatically by the developer. Don't have to worry about it.
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dr0832 said:
Thanks I did this and it worked. Now what I wonder is if I just keep the original ROM which I rooted, is this going to be a problem 2+ years from now when Android is at 5.X or 6.X and I am still running 4.2.
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2+ years from now, you will probably have a different phone... the Galaxy S8 or Note 7 haha. It shouldn't be a problem and you could always flash a Custom ROM depending on your current build. Are you on MDK or ME7?
Hello,
I just got a notice that some update wants to be pushed to my phone. Anyone know what it covers? VoLTE by any chance?
boe said:
Hello,
I just got a notice that some update wants to be pushed to my phone. Anyone know what it covers? VoLTE by any chance?
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if you don't care about root.take the update but if you are rooted and do not want to loose root and bump,dont do it.
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if you don't care about root.take the update but if you are rooted and do not want to loose root and bump,dont do it.
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Thanks - I just read up on it - not really much in the way of specifics or any noticeable improvement.
Hey guys I was wondering how I reject this update once and for all? I rejected it once, now it seems to be permanently asking me to update and all I seem to be able to do is defer it to another time.
Thanks!
no cigar said:
Hey guys I was wondering how I reject this update once and for all? I rejected it once, now it seems to be permanently asking me to update and all I seem to be able to do is defer it to another time.
Thanks!
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Find the 'system update' app on your phone and freeze it using titanium or uninstall it if you want.
boe said:
Hello,
I just got a notice that some update wants to be pushed to my phone. Anyone know what it covers? VoLTE by any chance?
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If you really want it jasmine ROM v3 is on version 11c which is what that Verizon update is running. I've been running it since release and have had no issues at all with extremely better performance and battery.
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Find the 'system update' app on your phone and freeze it using titanium or uninstall it if you want.
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Titanium BackUp Pro freezes both the components to the OTA update process, it says, but they don't really freeze. The OTA will still download to /cache and still annoy you to install it.
Its a problem with To Backup freezing, because other freezing software will work, at least one being free. See other threads on XDA for details. Titanium Backup pro won't stop the OTA, though, so don't rely on it doing so.
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Titanium BackUp Pro freezes both the components to the OTA update process, it says, but they don't really freeze. The OTA will still download to /cache and still annoy you to install it.
Its a problem with To Backup freezing, because other freezing software will work, at least one being free. See other threads on XDA for details. Titanium Backup pro won't stop the OTA, though, so don't rely on it doing so.
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I'm still mystified by people who root and then don't immediately disable OTA's.
But my bad on titanium. I don't want to give bad info. In some posts others had success using it to freeze the OTA that's why I suggested it. I just deleted the update app ASAP after root and never got the OTA push. If people don't like deleting the file there are uninstall apps that keep it in the recycle bin so you can enable it later if you want.
Thanks for the Titanium info though. Good to know.
I used TiBU to freeze the update app, haven't received any nag messages, nor was the update downloaded to my /cache. I must be lucky .
My TiBU is Pro, at rev 6.1.5.6.