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Seems this news hasn't made it to the Rezound forum yet, so I'm taking the initiative.
http://source.android.com/source/downloading.html
What I'm wondering is, when RIL is finally released for the Rezound, will it be forwards and backwards compatible? Will GB, ICS, and JB all match up and work? Or is it specific to each?
Edit: I see someone started a discussion in the General forum while I was typing this. My apologies.
This belongs in general, not development
I'd bet that the ICS RIL would work with few or no modifications in JB, but then again I don't know a thing about Android development.
Sooooo yeah. JB is pretty sweet. Before I lost my Nexus, I had JB on it, and it was AWESOMELY smooth. Even pure stock was awesomely smooth
*HINT HINT DEVS* *I DONATE*
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This. This post doesn't belong in development man. This section is for development only. As in Roms, kernels etc...not links to websites.
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jayochs said:
This. This post doesn't belong in development man. This section is for development only. As in Roms, kernels etc...not links to websites.
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And you guys wonder why people leave XDA cause half the time people post **** in the wrong forum you guys jump there **** about it. Ridiculous, People don't need to be told 9 times that they posted it in the wrong category once is fine. Jesus Christ.
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This. This post doesn't belong in development man. This section is for development only. As in Roms, kernels etc...not links to websites.
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Basically this, report it up, must be locked.
socal87 said:
Seems this news hasn't made it to the Rezound forum yet, so I'm taking the initiative.
http://source.android.com/source/downloading.html
What I'm wondering is, when RIL is finally released for the Rezound, will it be forwards and backwards compatible? Will GB, ICS, and JB all match up and work? Or is it specific to each?
Edit: I see someone started a discussion in the General forum while I was typing this. My apologies.
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before u talk about ril lets talk about getting it booting one tiny step at a time
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And you guys wonder why people leave XDA cause half the time people post **** in the wrong forum you guys jump there **** about it. Ridiculous, People don't need to be told 9 times that they posted it in the wrong category once is fine. Jesus Christ.
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No, they do, because its all over every development section on xda that threads like this DO NOT BELONG IN HERE. Period. Complain all you want, its a rule of the forums. People will learn from their mistakes...as simple as that.
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thisiswar951 said:
And you guys wonder why people leave XDA cause half the time people post **** in the wrong forum you guys jump there **** about it. Ridiculous, People don't need to be told 9 times that they posted it in the wrong category once is fine. Jesus Christ.
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Getting sick of these posts saying this is why people leave XDA. If you all want to leave then leave. We don't need to see this post over and over and over again!
How is your post any better then people posting what should be in the development section.
You obviously are not in a hurry to leave because you are still posting here so stop with that BS already!
And if you do decide to leave, XDA will still run just fine without you. I would much rather see jayochs stick around.
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Getting sick of these posts saying this is why people leave XDA. If you all want to leave then leave. We don't need to see this post over and over and over again!
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*shug* its exaCTLY why i dont post here that much.
at any rate,excuse my lack of excitement for jellybean since we dont even have working AOSP ICS yet. id be way happy to donate to whomever gets RIL working on for ICS. is there anyone even working on it anymore?
with source code out at least ill prolly be able to enjoy it on my sensation
Rils are working. We are waiting for kernel source so we can have a stable.Rom. they tried several other Kernels but none worked and crashed.
Dmeadows is working with what he has. And blame verizion for not letting HTC release the ota....
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XRaptor29 said:
Rils are working. We are waiting for kernel source so we can have a stable.Rom. they tried several other Kernels but none worked and crashed.
Dmeadows is working with what he has. And blame verizion for not letting HTC release the ota....
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Please link me an aosp ics rom with working data,text,etc.
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Meadows released a stock JB ROM for the Nexus, I had to double take on the name, I was like whaaaaat
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I Am Marino said:
Meadows released a stock JB ROM for the Nexus, I had to double take on the name, I was like whaaaaat
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And that has wat to do with the rezound?
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I Am Marino said:
Meadows released a stock JB ROM for the Nexus, I had to double take on the name, I was like whaaaaat
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Lol nice. You run Joel's yet? Its a daily driver. Rocks.
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scotty1223 said:
Please link me an aosp ics rom with working data,text,etc.
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Go check out Chad's Incredikernel thread, he is making progress. Might be at a stand still until source is released though, but he is working on it.
Screw this place. I DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE NEXUS AT ALL!!! damn.
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scotty1223 said:
*shug* its exaCTLY why i dont post here that much.
at any rate,excuse my lack of excitement for jellybean since we dont even have working AOSP ICS yet. id be way happy to donate to whomever gets RIL working on for ICS. is there anyone even working on it anymore?
with source code out at least ill prolly be able to enjoy it on my sensation
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soon my son, soon. with chad, eris etc working on it, we're bound to get something very soon.
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Lol nice. You run Joel's yet? Its a daily driver. Rocks.
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I bet.
ReZound
Since JamieD's thread is locked, I've been compiling PA every other day and you can find my latest PA ROMs here:
http://goo.im/devs/jjc5891/i717
There's nothing special about these, pretty much compiled right from github. I offer no support, since it's not my code. I only compiled it. Enjoy.
This Rom from this link is the truth. Best running panadroid yet. Been running this thing for 24hrs no reboots freezes or lag.
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Is this ROM for Galaxy S2
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Is this ROM for Galaxy S2
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Are you joking? I'm alil confused being that we're in the galaxy note forum.
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Would like to mention that is a shnazzy build. Its quite smooth and functions efficiently. Thanks.
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Why have you stopped doing builds?
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Why have you stopped doing builds?
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JamieD started building again and there really shouldn't be much of a difference. I have one building right now, will upload when complete.
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JamieD started building again and there really shouldn't be much of a difference. I have one building right now, will upload when complete.
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It's always good to have a choice.
Its almost blasphemy to say but this might be smoother than Jamie's concoction. I smell competition lol.
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Not hating but I would run this over Jamie's just because hes so funny about his threads i dont really get it when is it not locked?
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I hope you plan on updating your build. Its underrated and underappreciated.
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Has anyone been able to dl the newest version?
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Has anyone been able to dl the newest version?
Sent from my Note...where BIGGER is better!
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Yep I got it already.
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Does NFC work in this ROM? Perhaps I may try a new ROM
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gatoraid84 said:
Not hating but I would run this over Jamie's just because hes so funny about his threads i dont really get it when is it not locked?
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Yeah, keeping in mind Jamie's temper we need some competition here.
I seem to have fell victim to having duplicate photos in my gallery. Do anyone have a solution for that?
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::bump:: I still run this. Idk about anyone else or if there's a difference or placebo effect but this build is quite good. Thanks for taking the time out.
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::bump:: I still run this. Idk about anyone else or if there's a difference or placebo effect but this build is quite good. Thanks for taking the time out.
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If anyone downloaded the 1004 build, my computer cut off mid-upload so do not try to flash it yet. I'll re-upload when I get home.
joedoe said:
Yeah, keeping in mind Jamie's temper we need some competition here.
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jamie's temper is not just out of the blue
if users would take the time to read the first 2 posts in which i update frequently then things would be different. but they dont so someone has to say something as im sick of reporting posts and users getting warnings its utterly pointless, so i speak up
99% of info can be found in the op's on how to fix issues, if it isnt search the thread everything has been covered and if all else fails www.google.com is your best friend, use it and abuse it. *then and only then as the op states, you are to post and in full detail your issue*
yet no one does even though its right there in the op.
when users flood dev threads with non-detailed fully covered 10+ times things, someones gunna say something it just so happens that it is me most of the time as i would like users to learn to fix their own issues when its not the roms fault THIS IS WHY THERE ARE THE FIRST 2 POSTS OF THE THREAD. other wise id just have a link to download and a picture and tell users to have atter. *learning is what xda is all about*
so dont mistake my temper as a bad thing and look at the big picture i give more thanks, appreciation and help then "temper" msgs
now maybe you can see where some of the stress and frustration comes from. and why other dev's have left over it.
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If anyone downloaded the 1004 build, my computer cut off mid-upload so do not try to flash it yet. I'll re-upload when I get home.
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It's back up.
The new update is cool except I lost the ability to make my status bar and navbar transparent. The way the toggles are represented is different and not really welcome. This has nothing to do with how you built the rom but I will stay on the Oct 2 build until my issues are resolved.
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I noticed that ManelScout4Life seems to be posting nightlies of the Vanilla Rootbox 4.2.1 ROM under the "quincyatt" header on his goo.im section (although they don't appear when you "filter by compatible roms".
I downloaded it, but searched all over the interwebz and couldn't find a damn thing on it...and since I'm not a huge fan of blindly flashing ROM's, I wanted to see if anyone here has taken the plunge and tried to flash it? I know he did the voting thing the other day, but I have no idea how that turned out...so I'm not sure if he's just intentionally not posting it here, or if they're just test builds that aren't ready for full-on testing yet.
Either way - I have read some cool things about RootBox, so I'd love to give it a whirl if anyone else (Manel included?) could confirm that it's not gonna take us to Bricktown or anything. :laugh:
Thanks in advance, hopefully I didn't miss anything previously regarding his ROM's...I'm definitely not trying to go against a contributor's wishes or anything like that.
I'm running Dirty RootBox on my N7 and its great. I haven't heard or seen anything of it for the i717.
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CPA Poke said:
I noticed that ManelScout4Life seems to be posting nightlies of the Vanilla Rootbox 4.2.1 ROM under the "quincyatt" header on his goo.im section (although they don't appear when you "filter by compatible roms".
I downloaded it, but searched all over the interwebz and couldn't find a damn thing on it...and since I'm not a huge fan of blindly flashing ROM's, I wanted to see if anyone here has taken the plunge and tried to flash it? I know he did the voting thing the other day, but I have no idea how that turned out...so I'm not sure if he's just intentionally not posting it here, or if they're just test builds that aren't ready for full-on testing yet.
Either way - I have read some cool things about RootBox, so I'd love to give it a whirl if anyone else (Manel included?) could confirm that it's not gonna take us to Bricktown or anything. :laugh:
Thanks in advance, hopefully I didn't miss anything previously regarding his ROM's...I'm definitely not trying to go against a contributor's wishes or anything like that.
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It's a WIP...keep your eyes open
Do not flash those builds, they are for testing, a thread will be up when it's ready
ManelScout4Life said:
Do not flash those builds, they are for testing, a thread will be up when it's ready
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Thanks Manel!
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In development there's an alpha for 4.2
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Ehhh what?
Great news i've been wanting to try this looking forward to all the new ROMs thanks op
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That just made my day....I have been wanting to use that ROM for awhile. Was going to get a note 2 with my taxes, but now I might just take the kids on vacation and give ya a donation. Thanks sirrr.
ramharder said:
That just made my day....I have been wanting to use that ROM for awhile. Was going to get a note 2 with my taxes, but now I might just take the kids on vacation and give ya a donation. Thanks sirrr.
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Well, you ALMOST had your priorities straight.
In do time.
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In do time.
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Actually, in due time.
Word on the street is that there's a working test build floating around.
Don't ask for or post links, post bugs if you find/flash it.
Word on the street could be right
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Checking what works and doesn't
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Mmmmmmmm what is this?........
it is pretty sweet im using desktop mode with pie controls its awesome
Spen gestures work. Couple hours into this ROM and it's sweeeet.
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Nice room very fast I testing right now
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Once the video camera issue is taken care of you guys will see a thread.
ManelScout4Life said:
Once the video camera issue is taken care of you guys will see a thread.
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Is a link to help you "donate"?
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Is a link to help you "donate"?
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Look in his Jellybeer thread.
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Its not allowed to be posted but if you check out there site. Theres a goody over there
Disclaimer: I dont know them or even know if this is allowed but I figured id share as their roms were rock solid on my GNex
Running it now...pretty smooth . Thanks for the heads up
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Ohhhh buddy haha, I'd be careful with this.
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Where is it. I couldn't find it!
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Where is it. I couldn't find it!
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Same for me
Edit: I found a goody
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Mod should close this thread. They specifically said don't share it. Don't cause problems please. I appreciate the effort but you clearly didn't read their op.
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Wth you have to pay to join there forum... !? I use to have a account when I had my thundrrbolt it was free then. Ill stick to xda an optional donations.
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Mod should close this thread. They specifically said don't share it. Don't cause problems please. I appreciate the effort but you clearly didn't read their op.
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My intent really wasnt to cause problems. It says don't post it, which I didn't, I just told people about it.
Mods feel free to close the thread if its that big of a problem.
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Wth you have to pay to join there forum... !? I use to have a account when I had my thundrrbolt it was free then. Ill stick to xda an optional donations.
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Go back and read VERY carefully.
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Wth you have to pay to join there forum... !? I use to have a account when I had my thundrrbolt it was free then. Ill stick to xda an optional donations.
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Lol no
hopesrequiem said:
Mod should close this thread. They specifically said don't share it. Don't cause problems please. I appreciate the effort but you clearly didn't read their op.
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Who cares what team bamf thinks. They have Devs who steal phones from people and then don't release work for months and months on end. I say share everything they want kept secret!
Also I want to point out I've had access to this since march 23 where another user on here compiled it. So this is really nothing new.
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Who cares what team bamf thinks. They have Devs who steal phones from people and then don't release work for months and months on end. I say share everything they want kept secret!
Also I want to point out I've had access to this since march 23 where another user on here compiled it. So this is really nothing new.
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Haha haha.. XD
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That's silly....
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nosympathy said:
Who cares what team bamf thinks. They have Devs who steal phones from people and then don't release work for months and months on end. I say share everything they want kept secret!
Also I want to point out I've had access to this since march 23 where another user on here compiled it. So this is really nothing new.
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Thats an ignorant statement.
Unless you have proof that they STOLE someone's phone, you should probably STFU. Thats not how they operate.
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Mod should close this thread. They specifically said don't share it. Don't cause problems please. I appreciate the effort but you clearly didn't read their op.
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No where in his initial post does he say don't talk about it. Plus no offense but he can't stop someone from making a post on another forum about it.
This "treat" keeps wiping my MicroSD card on boot.
/sigh
It could mean don't post the ROM itself anywhere or don't mention it outside of the BAMF forums. Either way he has one of the two pretty strictly posted in the op. Not bashing on anyone for defending it being brought to light but don't be ignorant to the fact that he might not have wanted his own personal ROM spread out yet
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He didn't actually repost. He just said there's a treat there.
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lostnuke said:
Thats an ignorant statement.
Unless you have proof that they STOLE someone's phone, you should probably STFU. Thats not how they operate.
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My memory is a little fuzzy seeing as how this happened a while back, but there was and still is proof if the mods have not deleted everything. Just because you have had positive experiences with some of their devs does not mean they are all good or even that most of them are good upstanding devs. There is no reason for that type of attitude either, if you cannot act like an adult and discuss things without attacking others then you should just leave the thread.
Unless you know exactly what you are talking about and were there when it happened, the phone being pretty much stolen, you may want to take your own advice.
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Thats an ignorant statement.
Unless you have proof that they STOLE someone's phone, you should probably STFU. Thats not how they operate.
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Joelz has taken phones from people donating only to not release ROMs, drop the phone support and then go to sell them for profit. He is a part of team bamf still yes?
How about you STFU since they have had the proof of him doing so and turned a blind eye. I haven't supported team BAMF since the thunderbolt and won't long as they keep Joelz.
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Dev's,
I just wanted to make a post saying that yes, there are people here interested in ROM's, and YES we do appreciate your work.
I am patiently waiting for a working CM10 or 4.4 AOSP, and don't really mind the time it takes to build as long as its solid.
i will test where i can
+1
+1
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There is a test build of cm 11 in the original Dev forum from Houstonn. Its the second to the last page.
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There is a test build of cm 11 in the original Dev forum from Houstonn. Its the second to the last page.
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Nooo wayyy.. for ls980??
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Nooo wayyy.. for ls980??
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Yes, go check it out
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Yes, go check it out
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Where is link for Sprint?
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Yes, go check it out
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I just looked but I'm on the app so I must have missed it. I'll check the browser site for the page mentioned. But I did find carbon 4.3 sprint test... Didn't know that existed!
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Me too
Houstonn is kicking ass, but the information is terribly difficult to find
http://downloads.codefi.re/houstonn/me/test
that SHOULD be the 4.4 AOSP build for sprint. i have not yet tested. one in the thread did, and said everything worked.
good luck guys, and go post in the thread if you see bugs, because i dont know if there will ever be a dedicated thread in this forum for it..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502789
dont be stupid and not read the thread some before installing, looks like full wipe and twrp/cwm (maybe one or the other) will be required
Running pretty smooth here. Data works great, SMS, MMS, WiFi... I don't have any complaints.
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^Awesome post. I ended up finding it and just got it dld. Now for the gapps. Gahhh I'm hella excited!
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post some screenshots of home screen, and phone info screen please
Is anyone noticing any screen rotation problems? After reading the closed cm10.2 thread I'm a little weary to flash anything.
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Houstonn is kicking ass, but the information is terribly difficult to find
http://downloads.codefi.re/houstonn/me/test
that SHOULD be the 4.4 AOSP build for sprint. i have not yet tested. one in the thread did, and said everything worked.
good luck guys, and go post in the thread if you see bugs, because i dont know if there will ever be a dedicated thread in this forum for it..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502789
dont be stupid and not read the thread some before installing, looks like full wipe and twrp/cwm (maybe one or the other) will be required
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Thats for verizon
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Really? You are posting this in the Development Forum?
Moderators please delete this thread.
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Thats for verizon
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theres a build for ls980 as well.. check the downloads link
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Really? You are posting this in the Development Forum?
Moderators please delete this thread.
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i apologize for the poor choice of forum posting.
delete this if you see fit. this forum is barely moving and is basically our (sprint G2) only dedicated home. I wasn't sure where else to post
johnzm said:
i apologize for the poor choice of forum posting.
delete this if you see fit. this forum is barely moving and is basically our (sprint G2) only dedicated home. I wasn't sure where else to post
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Well a couple of reasons for that. The G2 for Sprint came out almost a month after the other G2 variants. Also, CDMA phones have always been the step child of Android Development.
Rest assure there is development for this phone. I have personally tested a few 4.3.x and 4.4 roms. The devs don't want to release half ass stuff. When the threads start here, they will be close to perfect.
Patience grasshopper.
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Well a couple of reasons for that. The G2 for Sprint came out almost a month after the other G2 variants. Also, CDMA phones have always been the step child of Android Development.
Rest assure there is development for this phone. I have personally tested a few 4.3.x and 4.4 roms. The devs don't want to release half ass stuff. When the threads start here, they will be close to perfect.
Patience grasshopper.
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its actually nice to hear that someone is working on it.
I had a Gnex and the development was explosive compared to the G2 (not surprisingly), but as I'm sure you can see in this forum, it looks pretty empty.
Without a doubt i am grateful for every dev who is working on Roms for our phone, but without any forum movement, it looks pretty stagnant. Your response is nice to see, and I am sure that I'm not the only one who is happy to hear that there is someone somewhere trying to help the bastard stepchild of the G2 world out