Interesting news i would like to share with you. Looks like we are going to have some fun with our DX soon.
https://plus.google.com/+CyanogenMod/posts/NfdcyJLFeZt
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Interesting news i would like to share with you. Looks like we are going to have some fun with our DX soon.
https://plus.google.com/+CyanogenMod/posts/NfdcyJLFeZt
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But we havent managed to get the jb kernal to work on cyongwnmod 10.1 yet
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But we havent managed to get the jb kernal to work on cyongwnmod 10.1 yet
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But we have ICS kernel that work on CM10.1 and when CM10.2 will be done will we have also JB kernel sources and atis/prototype can probablly boot 4.3.
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waza97 said:
But we havent managed to get the jb kernal to work on cyongwnmod 10.1 yet
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Even the CM team didn't do a stable build,there is time to do all of this,we just need patience.
nightwalkerkg said:
Interesting news i would like to share with you. Looks like we are going to have some fun with our DX soon.
https://plus.google.com/+CyanogenMod/posts/NfdcyJLFeZt
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Who needs it? All the matter is sense5.
1qasdfghj said:
Who needs it? All the matter is sense5.
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It's better to have CM android 4.3 then Sense 5 4.1.2.
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xpirt said:
It's better to have CM android 4.3 then Sense 5 4.1.2.
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But sense 5 more beautiful.
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Who needs it? All the matter is sense5.
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http://liliputing.com/2013/06/whats-new-in-android-4-3-jelly-bean.html
And also i have heard that they did some software modification to extend the battery life.
"As expected, Google announced the newest version of its Android mobile operating system on Wednesday and it looks like a big focus of the latest upgrade is improving smartphones’ and tablets’ battery life. Android 4.3 JellyBean, which Google announced during its “breakfast” press conference Wednesday morning, is shipping on the company’s newest Nexus 7 tablet. The new OS is adding support for low-power Bluetooth devices such as healthy sensors that can display data on your smartphone or tablet."
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But sense 5 more beautiful.
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Beauty is discussable,people like different things. For example i find MIUI V5 looking much better then Sense 5.
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But sense 5 more beautiful.
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But if we will have CM 4.3 we can port Sense 5 4.3 But it's difficult :|
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xpirt said:
But if we will have CM 4.3 we can port Sense 5 4.3 But it's difficult :|
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We can port Sense 5 to CM 10.1,right ?
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We can port Sense 5 to CM 10.1,right ?
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Yes but it's more difficult to port on Sense base, but people who ported to samsung, ecc. used CM as base so it's possible
xpirt
My build server is not letting me build cm10.1 on it
So I repo synced cm10.2 sources and it is compiling right now !!
Now lets pray that it doesn't stop in between
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Yes but it's more difficult to port on Sense base, but people who ported to samsung, ecc. used CM as base so it's possible
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Yeah,i understand.
I plan to do a port of LiquidSmooth rom,but it's based on Android 4.2.2,so i am going to need your CM10.1,you just have wifi problem on it,right ?
nightwalkerkg said:
Yeah,i understand.
I plan to do a port of LiquidSmooth rom,but it's based on Android 4.2.2,so i am going to need your CM10.1,you just have wifi problem on it,right ?
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Our CM10.1 has WiFi, Bluetooth and Audio/Video recording not working. Bluetooth is fixed by prototype-u but not released yet.
Also I planned to port some awesome roms but when CM10.1 is almost bugfree and ready for daily usage.
xpirt
xpirt said:
Our CM10.1 has WiFi, Bluetooth and Audio/Video recording not working. Bluetooth is fixed by prototype-u but not released yet.
Also I planned to port some awesome roms but when CM10.1 is almost bugfree and ready for daily usage.
xpirt
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Nice. Looks like DX is going to get some nice roms.
I also would like to update you on CyanogenMod Nemesis Teaser.
And the phase 1 of that project,the new CM camera app called Focal.
http://www.androidcentral.com/cyanogenmod-focal-camera-app-nemesis
prototype-U said:
My build server is not letting me build cm10.1 on it
So I repo synced cm10.2 sources and it is compiling right now !!
Now lets pray that it doesn't stop in between
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Give us the update on how it's going.
nightwalkerkg said:
Nice. Looks like DX is going to get some nice roms.
I also would like to update you on CyanogenMod Nemesis Teaser.
And the phase 1 of that project,the new CM camera app called Focal.
http://www.androidcentral.com/cyanogenmod-focal-camera-app-nemesis
Give us the update on how it's going.
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I've seen that, it looks very good, a decent improvement over AOSP and dare I say better than Samsung and HTC's offerings I can imagine CyanogenMod really catering for the HTC One with that app
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I've seen that, it looks very good, a decent improvement over AOSP and dare I say better than Samsung and HTC's offerings I can imagine CyanogenMod really catering for the HTC One with that app
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That is a new project koush is working on, its still under heavy development but its a new messaging thing, it basically overrides I message which apple uses.
You'll find more about it in the cysnogemod Google plus page, koush expalins it all.
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But we have ICS kernel that work on CM10.1 and when CM10.2 will be done will we have also JB kernel sources and atis/prototype can probablly boot 4.3.
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Does our kernel support ion ?
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Does our kernel support ion ?
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I don't know but I don't think. Maybe it can be added to our kernel.
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Okay i wasn't expecting this but i read many articles and you can google it too " HTC Desire X KitKat 4.4" and everywhere was written it will receive the update. What do you think guys?
We didn't get even 4.2! how is 4.4 possible?
Random link which confirms our phone is getting it CLick HERE
What i think is KitKat was designed for low RAM requiring phones right? Its on their official site that it requires less RAM now so maybe that's why we are getting it. Just an approach
These are all rumors,there is no official statement from HTC. We can hope that we will get it,it would be nice. But don't get to hasty.
Yeah i know...but let's hope the best. I'm excited though.
I would be suprised if we get Kitkat. But if we are gonna get it when do we get it?
I am guessing couple of months..maybe start of next year
I think i read somewhere that the update can take 18 months,after the official statement,the most. But it usually takes a few months.
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I think i read somewhere that the update can take 18 months,after the official statement,the most. But it usually takes a few months.
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And google said: ''Devices need to get at least 18 months update support''
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Okay i wasn't expecting this but i read many articles and you can google it too " HTC Desire X KitKat 4.4" and everywhere was written it will receive the update. What do you think guys?
We didn't get even 4.2! how is 4.4 possible?
Random link which confirms our phone is getting it CLick HERE
What i think is KitKat was designed for low RAM requiring phones right? Its on their official site that it requires less RAM now so maybe that's why we are getting it. Just an approach
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We'll probably get cm10.3 before that happens..
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We'll probably get cm10.3 before that happens..
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Yeah,the sources are out. And i read on Google+ that CM team is already working on it.
Plus nexus 4 and 7 already got 4.4 build from source and PA 4.4.
They have some great devs,well i can't expect any less from flagship devices.
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We'll probably get cm10.3 before that happens..
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Will it be easier to port cm 10.3/11 now with the low ram and other changes?
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Will it be easier to port cm 10.3/11 now with the low ram and other changes?
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I am not the right person to ask this question from.
HTC said to me on their fb page that their priorities to get updates first is the HTC one family they're thinking about HTC desire X but now there's no official announcement
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Did anyone hear about the 4.4 launcher ? And did anyone get it to work on their DX because i cant get it to work on mine... :\ If you did get it on your DX can you please explain how?
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Did anyone hear about the 4.4 launcher ? And did anyone get it to work on their DX because i cant get it to work on mine... :\ If you did get it on your DX can you please explain how?
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It doesn't work for me too. Google Search FC.
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xpirt said:
It doesn't work for me too. Google Search FC.
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There is already a workaround for google search fc
doctor_droid said:
There is already a workaround for google search fc
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Oh yeah? Didn't know.. How you got it?
xpirt
I heard that some people got it to work on their 4.1 devices.And i also heard something about that it has to be a deodexed rom or something.Does DX have a deodexed rom?
filipcar said:
I heard that some people got it to work on their 4.1 devices.And i also heard something about that it has to be a deodexed rom or something.Does DX have a deodexed rom?
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All custom Roms available for DX are deodexed, only stock Rom is odexed.
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There is already a workaround for google search fc
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Can you explain how? I mean i heard for the language change and the .SO file but it doesn't seem to work for me or im doing something wrong :\ .
Im on mySENSEdx+rc3.0
I tried the launcher on multiple roms, google search fc's on all of them
In the future, will it be possible to extract Nexus5 rom/updates and apply them directly to G2 ?
Just asking, because G2 and Nexus are sharing a lot of same hardware.
It'll probably be easier to port Nexus5 rom, instead of having a lot of work on a common 10.2CM ?
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In the future, will it be possible to extract Nexus5 rom/updates and apply them directly to G2 ?
Just asking, because G2 and Nexus are sharing a lot of same hardware.
It'll probably be easier to port Nexus5 rom, instead of having a lot of work on a common 10.2CM ?
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Its fairly easy to port ROMS from Nexus 5. However reading log cats is the main thing here. Thankfully most people can't read log cats so it stops the noobs flood the place with terrible ports. To answer your question yes it can.
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Thx for answering.
Just asking, because i'm really fan of AOSP/light roms.
We don't know availability of Nexus5 (already out of stock), so G2 could be a great alternative to Nexus5 (with better battery lol)
luminouche said:
Thx for answering.
Just asking, because i'm really fan of AOSP/light roms.
We don't know availability of Nexus5 (already out of stock), so G2 could be a great alternative to Nexus5 (with better battery lol)
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We have AOSP already. Just Original Android Development
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Yes, but is it better to port rom from Nexus5 directly (with probably minor adaptations), or to adapt a common CM10.2 tree to G2 devices ?
luminouche said:
Thx for answering.
Just asking, because i'm really fan of AOSP/light roms.
We don't know availability of Nexus5 (already out of stock), so G2 could be a great alternative to Nexus5 (with better battery lol)
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CM10 is pretty close to AOSP too.
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CM10 is pretty close to AOSP too.
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*CM10.2 IS AOSP. We have our own device tree now but Nexus 5 one can also be adapted
StarFighter said:
*CM10.2 IS AOSP. We have our own device tree now but Nexus 5 one can also be adapted
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CM is CM, AOSP is AOSP. It's close, but it's not AOSP, especially these days.
entropism said:
CM is CM, AOSP is AOSP. It's close, but it's not AOSP, especially these days.
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*CM10.2 IS AOSP. We have our own device tree now but Nexus 5 one can also be adapted
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Was getting ready to say the same thing... It does have some changes, which I think are generally for the better.
CM is AOSP based, very enhanced thou with tweaks and major overhaul thanks to gerrit submissions and great dev community.
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Utacka said:
CM is AOSP based, very enhanced thou with tweaks and major overhaul thanks to gerrit submissions and great dev community.
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Exactly, CM is built from AOSP.
there is a guy with a video on youtube that says he has files to download to the g2 to make it a virtual nexus 5. he demos it and says the files are in the description but I did not see them there. He says no root is required and it does look like a nexus 5, but I don't know if it is kitkat or not. it also looked like he was getting some FCs too.
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there is a guy with a video on youtube that says he has files to download to the g2 to make it a virtual nexus 5. he demos it and says the files are in the description but I did not see them there. He says no root is required and it does look like a nexus 5, but I don't know if it is kitkat or not. it also looked like he was getting some FCs too.
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Yeah it's 3 files to download here:
http://www.androidbeat.com/2013/10/download-android-kitkat-launcher-google-now/
But it's not a Rom.
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Yea the Optimus G Pro already received 4.4 based off the N4. I'm suprised we haven't got 4.4 based off the N5 yet. Perhaps the devs are still getting comfortable with the new hardware.
Real good to know about the N5/G2 ease of porting. I'm particularly curious about the kernels and how similar they are to one another. Moving forward with newer versions of Android, the kernels are the important thing.
I'm hoping it'll be easier to port roms over. The only concern I have is whether or not they'd work with the VZW version. Not sure if you could use the RIL from the G2 or a new file from scratch would have to be made to be able to get working data.
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I'm hoping it'll be easier to port roms over. The only concern I have is whether or not they'd work with the VZW version. Not sure if you could use the RIL from the G2 or a new file from scratch would have to be made to be able to get working data.
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The n5 carries many similar radio bands both CDMA and lte so it should be fine
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Lockett said:
I'm hoping it'll be easier to port roms over. The only concern I have is whether or not they'd work with the VZW version. Not sure if you could use the RIL from the G2 or a new file from scratch would have to be made to be able to get working data.
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They could pull whatever they needed from current builds. Should be ok.
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can anyone comment about the binaries and kernel sources? Is it possible to port franco's kernel over to g2?
mgear356 said:
can anyone comment about the binaries and kernel sources? Is it possible to port franco's kernel over to g2?
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of course it's possible to port franco kernel to the g2. the kernel sources are released from lg afaik.
but someone has to do it which is really bad with that many different device configurations.
give it some time and you will see kernels coming, i'm sure
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of course it's possible to port franco kernel to the g2. the kernel sources are released from lg afaik.
but someone has to do it which is really bad with that many different device configurations.
give it some time and you will see kernels coming, i'm sure
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There is already some kernels in the original dev forums. He is porting all sorts of stuff over.
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Hey,
does anyone know if there is a 4.4 ROM port coming to the YP-G1 anytime soon?
AnoraxAudio said:
Hey,
does anyone know if there is a 4.4 ROM port coming to the YP-G1 anytime soon?
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When CyanogenMod 11 is released in a few weeks, we'll probably start to work on it then.
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When CyanogenMod 11 is released in a few weeks, we'll probably start to work on it then.
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Typo CM11 is already released* While I could begin working on it, CM10.2 is still good and CM11 is most probalbly far from being stable anyway (I mean it got released 2 days ago...)
zaclimon said:
Typo CM11 is already released* While I could begin working on it, CM10.2 is still good and CM11 is most probalbly far from being stable anyway (I mean it got released 2 days ago...)
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Yeah, I agree with that. CM10.2 is, as far as I'm concerned, definitely a daily driver and there's no point in doing CM11 until CM works out some of the initial system level bugs.
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Typo CM11 is already released* While I could begin working on it, CM10.2 is still good and CM11 is most probalbly far from being stable anyway (I mean it got released 2 days ago...)
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Beg to differ, running it on my Atrix HD and besides a couple device specific issues, it runs amazing
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EcHoFiiVe said:
Beg to differ, running it on my Atrix HD and besides a couple device specific issues, it runs amazing
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Same on my GT-N7000 (SG Note), but we cannot define it as a CM, only as an AOSP Rom.
EDIT: I never had a fc or a bootloop, all worked perfectly and (too) smoothly.
Hello everyone,
HTC just released kernel source for HOX and kernel source for HOX+ is just uploading at htcdev.com
slow downloads at the moment, mine's been going for 5minutes already
A little bit offtopic maybe, but does this mean that we might be able to get 4.3 and 4.4 ports from HTC One?
geojoking said:
A little bit offtopic maybe, but does this mean that we might be able to get 4.3 and 4.4 ports from HTC One?
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why would we have 4.3 and 4.4 ports from the one????
I got the feeling that these ports were close to impossible without the kernel source. Sorry for my misunderstanding.
geojoking said:
I got the feeling that these ports were close to impossible without the kernel source. Sorry for my misunderstanding.
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even with kernel source it will be impossible...maybe s-off would help..but i think it wouldn't help too
we have 4.3 ..... it's only 4.4 that's a mess...
parkentosh said:
Hello everyone,
HTC just released kernel source for HOX and kernel source for HOX+ is just uploading at htcdev.com
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It means kernel development and after better performance in sense roms, no?
i'm currently uploading the kernel source to my git
https://github.com/Lloir/android_kernel_htc_enrc2b
it will show up in about 10-30minutes
depending on how my upload speed will be tonight...Enjoy
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we have 4.3 ..... it's only 4.4 that's a mess...
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yea i thought he meant the official 4.3 and 4.4 from htc one
Finally Can we expect some improvements for 4.3 or is it just relevant for 4.4?
Is this new kernel source likely to help with MHL in AOSP-based ROMs or is the MHL problem caused by something else?
Hope to get a good kernel to help our One X+ :laugh:
As far as i know mhl is not a kernel issue its related to other proprietary drivers
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https://twitter.com/ivicask/status/413597044415016960
Please everyone retweet my message to HTC, hopefully they give us at least some response.
ivicask said:
https://twitter.com/ivicask/status/413597044415016960
Please everyone retweet my message to HTC, hopefully they give us at least some response.
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you do know, the TEGRA3 N7 is still on 3.1 right?
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you do know, the TEGRA3 N7 is still on 3.1 right?
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IM aware of that, im not kernel expert, but your saying HTC cant provide us 4.4 update using this new kernel sources, unless Google also updates?
And another note, its only matter of time Google updates to this new sources, than i see no reason HTC couldn't too.
Anyways, regardless, i just want to bring some of HTCs attention to our phones, does it hurt to try ?
The update to 4.3 is a minimum for hox+
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ivicask said:
https://twitter.com/ivicask/status/413597044415016960
Please everyone retweet my message to HTC, hopefully they give us at least some response.
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Done, hope to see this mighty beast roaring again
hai i saw the paranoid android kitkat thread.it looks really cool.is there any chance of getting a rom with paranoid source for amaze??
sarnz said:
hai i saw the paranoid android kitkat thread.it looks really cool.is there any chance of getting a rom with paranoid source for amaze??
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Sure, if you want to try compiling it yourself. There are excellent instructions in the developers forums at the top of the main forum. No one here is currently working on a PA ROM.
If you'd like to try out a ROM that includes the main features of PA as well as the best of Evervolv, CyanogenMod, and AOKP try @josegalre PACman ROM, but it is currently at JellyBean-4.3 or if you really want to try KK either @sportsstar89 CyanogenMod-11 or @jeepers007 Evervolv ROMs, but they are still buggy (as are most KK ROMs for legacy devices like ours at this time) and in more of a beta state then ready for daily driver use.
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Sure, if you want to try compiling it yourself. There are excellent instructions in the developers forums at the top of the main forum. No one here is currently working on a PA ROM.
If you'd like to try out a ROM that includes the main features of PA as well as the best of Evervolv, CyanogenMod, and AOKP try @josegalre PACman ROM, but it is currently at JellyBean-4.3 or if you really want to try KK either @sportsstar89 CyanogenMod-11 or @jeepers007 Evervolv ROMs, but they are still buggy (as are most KK ROMs for legacy devices like ours at this time) and in more of a beta state then ready for daily driver use.
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At one time I thought of compile paranoid, but pacman is a great development, pacman 4.4 will be available soon
josegalre said:
At one time I thought of compile paranoid, but pacman is a great development, pacman 4.4 will be available soon
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your pacman rom is great.cant wait for kitkat . i tried evervolve and cm11,the camera is the biggest problem for me,its still buggy.anyway waiting for your pac rom and great work with pac 4.3
Odysseus1962 said:
Sure, if you want to try compiling it yourself. There are excellent instructions in the developers forums at the top of the main forum. No one here is currently working on a PA ROM.
If you'd like to try out a ROM that includes the main features of PA as well as the best of Evervolv, CyanogenMod, and AOKP try @josegalre PACman ROM, but it is currently at JellyBean-4.3 or if you really want to try KK either @sportsstar89 CyanogenMod-11 or @jeepers007 Evervolv ROMs, but they are still buggy (as are most KK ROMs for legacy devices like ours at this time) and in more of a beta state then ready for daily driver use.
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i did read the instructions and compiling it myself looks doable but i have got my boards coming up and really have to study and get into a good college but will try
doing it after boards.anyway i wanted to tell u great job.you have been so active in the forum and answering newbies like us and helping out a lot
sarnz said:
your pacman rom is great.cant wait for kitkat . i tried evervolve and cm11,the camera is the biggest problem for me,its still buggy.anyway waiting for your pac rom and great work with pac 4.3
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Pac rom 4.3.1 is the most stable 4.3 rom so far. Silent camera hq on google play is a good alternative one.
sarnz said:
i did read the instructions and compiling it myself looks doable but i have got my boards coming up and really have to study and get into a good college but will try
doing it after boards.anyway i wanted to tell u great job.you have been so active in the forum and answering newbies like us and helping out a lot
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Thanks. The only way we can keep our devices up to date, since we've been abandoned by HTC, is to stay active here and to support the Devs who're working so hard keeping the Amaze alive.
Yousvel said:
Pac rom 4.3.1 is the most stable 4.3 rom so far. Silent camera hq on google play is a good alternative one.
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Thanks for the heads-up, I'm sure many would like to know another alternative camera.
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Thanks. The only way we can keep our devices up to date, since we've been abandoned by HTC, is to stay active here and to support the Devs who're working so hard keeping the Amaze alive.
your right.htc completely abandoned our device and to top it all ours is not the easiest device to compile roms for.s3 mini and slightly newer devices have 4.4 kk roms like pacman fully functioning without any bug and we should all do our part and help our devs who are doing a great work
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Yousvel said:
Pac rom 4.3.1 is the most stable 4.3 rom so far. Silent camera hq on google play is a good alternative one.
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i have been using snap camera hdr as substitute.
sarnz said:
i have been using snap camera hdr as substitute.
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Does exposure metering work correctly with these camera apps?
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Petronoid said:
Does exposure metering work correctly with these camera apps?
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No it doesnt.the exposure meter isnt a app problem.using substitute apps wont fix it.