hey guys... just in the very beginning stages of wanting to learn how to develop android apps/roms and looking for some quick help to get on the right track. (my bro in law and father in law are developers in python and bro-in-law is really getting into android). I am reading through a book which teaches the beginner Java programming to start. In the mean time, I have installed the newest version of JDK (with all the plugins), Eclipse, and Android's plugin for Eclipse.
1. Is this all I need to get started?
2. Does every developer use Eclipse? It was my understanding that it is more of a "crutch" to make android app developing easier... I want to understand the code behind the program.
3. What other advise do you guys have for me?
Thanks for any and all help.
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hey guys... just in the very beginning stages of wanting to learn how to develop android apps/roms and looking for some quick help to get on the right track. (my bro in law and father in law are developers in python and bro-in-law is really getting into android). I am reading through a book which teaches the beginner Java programming to start. In the mean time, I have installed the newest version of JDK (with all the plugins), Eclipse, and Android's plugin for Eclipse.
1. Is this all I need to get started?
2. Does every developer use Eclipse? It was my understanding that it is more of a "crutch" to make android app developing easier... I want to understand the code behind the program.
3. What other advise do you guys have for me?
Thanks for any and all help.
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1) Pretty much.
2) I don't know if every dev uses Eclipse, but it's not a crutch. You're probably thinking along the lines of the garbage web pages Frontpage generates. That's not what Eclipse does. It'll generate some tedious code for you (when you tell it to), but it's a powerful and customizable tool, not a babysitter. Anyone that tells you do use Notepad instead is an idiot.
3) A lot of people will disagree with me, but I think learning Java with no programming experience is about the hardest path you could take. But it's tough to try to learn another language for the sake of it while what you really want to do is make an Android app. Just know, going in, that the path you're taking is tough.
You'll hear about object oriented vs procedural programming, but what everyone neglects to say is that object oriented expands upon procedural. That's why, ideally, I'd recommend everyone start with a procedural language.
Make sure you at least get a decent understanding of what object oriented programming is all about. And make sure you bookmark the Java API! If you're not using it you're doing something wrong.
Edit: Disclaimer: I've been a software developer for over 10 years and using Java for most of that. I spent a couple days looking through the Android SDK and tutorials and decided I didn't have a good enough app idea to make it worth the effort.
thanks so much, your input is much appreciated!
Be patient and do write many small apps as a start. And oh, xda chef central is another great resource also stack overflow is your best friend.
I would suggest you be patiently read or watch some tutorial before do 'try and error' way to test what works. Learn from experienced dev is really important
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Yeah I agree, I would definitely start out with small apps. The first few (several?) things you write are going to suck. Even if they work perfectly well, the code behind them is going to be poorly designed and hard to maintain and enhance.
In a class way back when, our instructor had us writing a to-do list manager. You can start with a simple list and then enhance it as you learn more. ie, add/delete items, priorities, due dates, reminders, etc. You'll read and say "hey, I could use this to do so-and-so," or "I wish I could add this function" and learn how to do it.
In addition to learning how to code and use the Java api, you'll also learn why you eventually want to understand how to design as much as possible up front.
Hi Guys,
I am planning to make an Android App which will act as a virtual Meditation hall, where many others would have connected to, and this App, should show me the count of the number of people that are currently logged in, it must also show me, the current Idea or Notion or say, a goal, for which the people are meditating, Now, just to clarify, in case you are wondering, In Yoga, there is a practice of Group meditation with a unified thought or unified mental state, so, I am planning to emulate this real life activity, for the Yogic practitioners, also.
Anyways, here is how i imagined it would be,
Module 1: Connect to the server
Module 2: log in
Module 3: Suspension, where the user simply keeps the app on and it will update the status of the hall, i.e. whether any new members have joined in or any has left.
Module 4: exit
Now, I must say, that the only background i have is of Flash, and I am not sure how this would help me out, but I just want to know
1) how to implement modules 1,2,3,4. i.e what is the programming elements i should use, no need for detailed explanation, just to point me out to what to study, because i am just about to start learning android programming and i need to have this app up and running ASAP.
If possible, i would also like to hear how you would segment this app idea into your own modules, if you have any advice on it.
P.S Please bear with me if i had commited any of the noobish mistakes of asking in a wrong category or asking something redundant as I am new to this and It was not intentional.
Thank you
Hello, everyone. Can someone please direct me, an absolute beginner with no experience in programming at all, where to begin learning. I would like to ultimately develop for Android.
I'm running Ubuntu 13.04; how can I set up an environment to learn programming, and what are some resources that I can use?
Install jdk on the comp then on your phone download the app learn java in 24 hours it walks you thru making your first program so you get the basics
Hello, I'm pretty much in the same boot as the OP.
I'm working in the medical field and get bored of not having the app I need to ease up paperwork, so I decided to make them myself.
However, exept a hangman game in high school I never coded. So yesterday i took my old laptop, put some Ubuntu on it, the sdk and created the famous "hello word" app.
The problem is, even in the tutorials, some thing were to complicated, so I called upon my cousin (a german develloper) and he gave me some advices.
Especially, he told me that java was maybe not the easiest way to learn to code with 0 background and suggest me to try python and other things.
Do you have advices for me, since I want to build simple app (somes textfields, somes checkboxes to get scores and the ability to export a result sheet in pdf) at first, but i do not want to use app inventor or similar tools since I ultimately want to fiddle with the AOSP agenda (get the contact list to pop up like the invite list when i click "description field" , change default duration of appointements etc...).
Any ideas, suggestions, or tutorial are welcome, just keep in mind that I know nothing (Jon Snow like).
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If you want to become a professional android developer then it is advisable to learn Java and XML a bit better,,and there are bunch of resources available on How to build android apps !
If you really want to become a Programmer then it is advisable to start from the beginning i.e C and then Java
Thats how everybody starts learning coding !
Go through video tutorials for understanding how the coding works !
Happy to help !
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This is a great list. I love to see my boy Derek Banas on there
alfredmuffin said:
Hello, everyone. Can someone please direct me, an absolute beginner with no experience in programming at all, where to begin learning. I would like to ultimately develop for Android.
I'm running Ubuntu 13.04; how can I set up an environment to learn programming, and what are some resources that I can use?
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google it man you will thousands of website which will teach u programming for free. I would have put the links but dont wanna be treated as spammer
For now don't worry about making an app with the Android SDK or anything big like that. Just start simple with some little programs that print stuff into the terminal. It's a good thing that you have Ubuntu because Linux OS's are always great to learn programming on!
I'm also a noon and I found it easy to start with Batch on Windows and I have just been getting better and better!
Well I understand it's not easy to get started. One thing you will have to recognize that there's a lot of things involved getting prepared for Android programming. For example, while developing for Android you will need to be able to write a bit of XML as well, you will need to set up your IDE, get the necessary Java dependencies, get a little bit familiar with Maven to be able to use 3rd party libraries and so on. It's most definitely intimidating. So what I would recommend is to...
- Try to allocate time every day for learning this, even if it just means half an hour or less a day.
- Always take notes and don't be afraid to ask; nobody should assume you know the answer.
- Once you've learned something, help others to get ahead - seniors will probably recognize your efforts so you will be able to get help more easily.
- Try to talk about programming in person with people who are more proficient in it. Nothing helps as much as having a pro sitting in the same room, ready to help you.
- Try to join related communities as well, it can really speed things up.
- Baby steps. Many people get started in programming with having crazy big ideas only to meet failure later. It's not a good thing to frustrate yourself, so choose small goals first.
I can't emphasize the last point enough. Whenever you start learning new stuff - no matter whether you're a novice or an expert - you will need to focus on this, because the initial steps are always problematic. For example, when you start learning a new programming language: the syntax is new, the way for getting the app run is new, the IDE might be new, if the tool is web related then probably it uses a different kind of server than the one you're used to etc. etc. etc. so barriers all around. You must get comfortable with this first, then you will be able to speed things up.
How to start coding
How I started:
Basic Stuff:
1. Java, I used Java Complete Reference
2. Data Structures (most commonly used- Stacks, Queues, Linked list, HashMap, List) [Basic Understanding]
3. Algorithms (will help you to write efficient code) [Basic Understanding]
4. XML, just basic understanding is required, use internet to learn
Android Specific Resources:
1. The Busy Coder's Guide to Android Development [Very useful]
2. New Boston Videos
3. Android Cookbook, if you want a solution to a particular problem
Spend more time learning Java and other basic stuff, once your basics are clear, then you can easily adjust yourself on any platform.
Recommendations for Aspiring App Developers
Hi,
I was in your same shoes about 3 years ago so I can tell you what steps I took to start coding. I took the longer route but it was the correct route. Key suggestion is to learn the lower levels of coding first. (lower levels meaning base languages, binary being the lowest). Start with the C language as this is the core programming language which most other higher levels are based on. If you have the money take a structured online course on Udemy or CodeAcademy. If you're short on money and need to learn on your own don't worry there's plenty of resources out there to learn. That's how I did it. Start out with videos on youtube, try to find a complete structured course here's one with over 130 videos. Sorry, can't post links cause I'm new but just go to Youtube and type in "C Programming Complete Tutorial" to get the course with the structured 130+ videos.
The best way to learn any programming language is to find some free source codes in the designated languages and start tinkering, breaking and fixing the code. Once you learn this core language you will be able to programm\ desktop apps, simple software and mobile apps in other higher level programming languages.
Hope this helps.
-Jeff
alfredmuffin said:
Hello, everyone. Can someone please direct me, an absolute beginner with no experience in programming at all, where to begin learning. I would like to ultimately develop for Android.
I'm running Ubuntu 13.04; how can I set up an environment to learn programming, and what are some resources that I can use?
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Hey Guys,
I love thenewboston website that you've pointed us to. But as a first step, should I learn some C or Java before progressing on to thenewboston Android tutorials?
I have no programming experience, but lots of motivation.
Thanks,
Donald,
New Zealand
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recommend "head first java"
I've been through the "Building Your First App" tutorial up to sending text from a textbox to another ViewGroup. I have lots of experience with C++, C#, VB.net and even some PHP/html/css. Almost entirely learned on my own. But man, this stuff is rough. For once I am very intimidated by learning this.
I want to make an app that simply samples the accelerometer values, stores them to an array then does some math with the resulting values. I don't even care to graph it or anything, I just want to do math and display some outputs. A single ViewGroup is fine, nothing fancy.
What kinds of tutorials can I look at to cut to the chase here? How should I be using arrays? How can I create a loop, is there like a timer event or should I just use a while loop? How can I sample the accelerometer?
I'm not entirely sure I want to invest the time required to be proficient at android java, I know that's a lame attitude to have but I actually really need this app and I am thinking it shouldn't be too complicated beyond creating a simple app. So I was hoping to be guided to the particular instructions/tutorials to do these few things.
I suggest you to download my app "ON THE GO APIHELP"........I agree android java is difficult but since you know C++,C#, It may be cakewalk for you.
Also watch the video tutorials on mybringback, thenewboston
I m sure my app wil help you develop apps more quickly after you learn the basics of java .
Hi! I'm a high school student and part of a team entering a competition where you have to pitch an app idea. For our idea we were thinking of helping people keep track of the foods in their kitchen and sending notifications to them when their foods are soon to be expired. Obviously there would be a lot of data involved in this (how long each food lasts) and we would need to keep the information of many foods to make an effective app.
Our competition was more about the idea side of things than the actual development, and I know nothing about app development, so I was wondering If anyone could explain how this information of mine could be stored (Through cloud i think) and link me to somewhere the could highlight the costs involved.
Anything would be appreciated, and also just general feedback of any difficulties or problems that this app idea could face as well.
Thanks so much!
You would need to either A. Keep the info on a private server that the app can tap into. This would be the fastest and most accurate method. Or B. You can have it pull from pre-defined websites. This will make it drag and unstable should the sites changes anything.