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http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/16/verizon-cfo-says-grandfathered-unlimited-plans-on-the-way-out/
Pretty sure I'm going to go in and upgrade to a Rezound tomorrow and then exchange it for the Inc 4G when it comes out.
That'll be your last upgrade with unlimited data. So torn about stay with vzn from here on out
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I actually think I'm going to pick up the GNex tomorrow to try it out. My wife has a Rezound so when the DInc 4G comes out I can compare all 3 and decide which I want.
I'm already on tiered data, so it doesn't matter to me.
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I'm already on tiered data, so it doesn't matter to me.
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It does me. It's the only thing that has kept me on Verizon (well, that and my wife. that's another story though ).
Hey guys,
Glad this came up here. So I am grannyd in on my dinc2 (signed 2yr in July) along with a really good old verizon talk/text plan and with a business discount. So all in all things are peachy for me atm.
So here are the problems: the wife has long been up and needs to ditch her iphone from work. Wtf do I do?!
1. Do I wait this out to see what the family plans look like?
2. Or do I upgrade her now onto a 4g phone and get in before the family plans come out? Hell they might actually be ok if priced decently?!
3. Could I get a used 4g phone add that to my unlimited plan?!
4. Should I add her a data line and get her an off contact phone so we aren't locked in for 2yrs?! Is that possible?!
Jezus this is f'd up. These greedy mofos will go down at some point. And here is praying that Google does it from right under their own feet (their own network)
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So, assuming the Inc 4G is released before this change goes into effect...
First Question:
Will upgrading to the Inc 4G guarantee that I'll have the unlimited data for the full 24months, or will put the kibosh on it once the shared plans go "live." It seems like contractually, it would be hard for them to do the latter, but given how Verizon hates it's customers, I wouldn't be surprised if they tried it.
Second question:
I'm on a family plan and we still have a few people with dumbphones. Suppose they upgrade to smartphones and sign up for a shared plans. Will my unlimited plan just coexist and not be part of that share, or will Verizon say "You can't sign up for any new shared plan without obliterating any unlimited data lines on your account." Again, Verizon hates it's customers, so I would not at all be surprised if they try that second option.
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So, assuming the Inc 4G is released before this change goes into effect...
First Question:
Will upgrading to the Inc 4G guarantee that I'll have the unlimited data for the full 24months, or will put the kibosh on it once the shared plans go "live." It seems like contractually, it would be hard for them to do the latter, but given how Verizon hates it's customers, I wouldn't be surprised if they tried it.
Second question:
I'm on a family plan and we still have a few people with dumbphones. Suppose they upgrade to smartphones and sign up for a shared plans. Will my unlimited plan just coexist and not be part of that share, or will Verizon say "You can't sign up for any new shared plan without obliterating any unlimited data lines on your account." Again, Verizon hates it's customers, so I would not at all be surprised if they try that second option.
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Your 1st question I'm interested in the answer as well,:
Your 2nd question, I'm in the same boat and was told I could keep unlimited as long as the plan doesn't change ie same # of texts etc, but dumb phones upgrading would havto, as of now the 4g tiered plan, not sure if after they ditch unlimited if they'll stroke you into the shared plan though . Anyone know exactly when the unlimited plans will ditched?
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http://www.androidcentral.com/verizon-clarifies-new-data-plan-policies
When the new options are introduced, Unlimited Data will no longer be available to our customers purchasing handsets and signing a new contract. Customers who choose to purchase phones at full retail price and are currently on an unlimited smartphone data plan will be able to keep that plan. The same pricing and policies will apply to all 3G and 4GLTE smartphones.
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So, I'm gonna wait at least a little while longer. I now know I don't need to rush out and upgrade today. Sounds like these plans won't start kicking in until "later this year" and they say they'll give plenty of advance notice so I should be able to wait for the DInc 4G to come out but it will be my last true unlimited plan upgrade.
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So, assuming the Inc 4G is released before this change goes into effect...
First Question:
Will upgrading to the Inc 4G guarantee that I'll have the unlimited data for the full 24months, or will put the kibosh on it once the shared plans go "live." It seems like contractually, it would be hard for them to do the latter, but given how Verizon hates it's customers, I wouldn't be surprised if they tried it.
Second question:
I'm on a family plan and we still have a few people with dumbphones. Suppose they upgrade to smartphones and sign up for a shared plans. Will my unlimited plan just coexist and not be part of that share, or will Verizon say "You can't sign up for any new shared plan without obliterating any unlimited data lines on your account." Again, Verizon hates it's customers, so I would not at all be surprised if they try that second option.
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As far as your first question goes, yes upgrading to the Inc 4g before the new plans come out will allow you to keep your unlimited data. And you'all be under contract for another 2yrs with unlimited. Once your contract runs out you'll still be able to keep your unlimited data as long as you pay full retail price for all your phones from that point on. The min you buy a phone at reduced pricing from vzn you'll be forced on to a new teired data plan.
2nd. Question not so sure about but I highly doubt they'll let two different types of data plans coexist on the same plan.
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http://www.androidcentral.com/verizon-clarifies-new-data-plan-policies
So, I'm gonna wait at least a little while longer. I now know I don't need to rush out and upgrade today. Sounds like these plans won't start kicking in until "later this year" and they say they'll give plenty of advance notice so I should be able to wait for the DInc 4G to come out but it will be my last true unlimited plan upgrade.
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Won't be your last unlimited plan upgrade. Vzn released a follow up statement saying people with unlimited plans will be able to keep them but that they will have to buy their phones at full retail price. Once you upgrade through discounted pricing on a phone, that will be when they'll take your unlimited data away and put you on one of the new plans
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Won't be your last unlimited plan upgrade. Vzn released a follow up statement saying people with unlimited plans will be able to keep them but that they will have to buy their phones at full retail price. Once you upgrade through discounted pricing on a phone, that will be when they'll take your unlimited data away and put you on one of the new plans
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yeah, not really looking forward to buying phones at full price
verizon really needs to clarify those already on family plans with shared minutes (like me and my wife)...what happens if she wants to upgrade? does that mean i get forced onto shared data with her?
cuz honestly, i wouldnt mind that much (mostly cuz on her own she wont use over say 2gb once i have my own lte phone) if she could still use her upgrades going forward if i could keep my unlimited data
Ok fom my expuerence if you guys have been with the company for a while just put up a ***** tell them you are leaving. Im with tmobile and i get great offers all the time that are meant to be for new customers only. I once got two new phones forget the name and only had to pay tax on them and i got them to order them for me. Believe me the last thing they want is for you to leave them.
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whoa, I'm tmobile too but I have full unlimited data plan, all the bells and whistles and STILL have to pay FULL price for my devices! Complaining does nothing for me! My HTC SENSATION 4g costed me almost 700.00!! One good thing about tmo is you do have the option to take the device home and pay approximately 20.00 a month for the device. This makes it a bit easier than having to pay all at once.! But their data is NOT cheap! I have two lines unlimited data, one equipment charge (20.00)
My bill for last month was 254.00! That seems outrageous to me! I asked about it and they said I can cancel some services I have to lower it, such as hotspot tethering ect. But I need those services. I've been with them for ,4 years, seems like I should at the very least, get a reduced equipment charge! But I still have to pay full price! Complaints get me no where.!
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whoa, I'm tmobile too but I have full unlimited data plan, all the bells and whistles and STILL have to pay FULL price for my devices! Complaining does nothing for me! My HTC SENSATION 4g costed me almost 700.00!! One good thing about tmo is you do have the option to take the device home and pay approximately 20.00 a month for the device. This makes it a bit easier than having to pay all at once.! But their data is NOT cheap! I have two lines unlimited data, one equipment charge (20.00)
My bill for last month was 254.00! That seems outrageous to me! I asked about it and they said I can cancel some services I have to lower it, such as hotspot tethering ect. But I need those services. I've been with them for ,4 years, seems like I should at the very least, get a reduced equipment charge! But I still have to pay full price! Complaints get me no where.!
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complaining may or may not get you anywhere with carriers
a lot depends on who you complain too, how often, what the complaint is, and your history of service and complaining with them
many people have gotten ETF's waived, but it usually takes a series of calls over several weeks and months proving there is something wrong with their lines and services
complaining about your contract and what it contains, depends on what you are up in arms about...i really dont see being able to argue your way into an upgrade AND keeping unlimited data once the family data share plans start...regardless of your circumstances/history (but who knows)
a few years back (2008/9) my wife and i were extremely unhappy with our BB8830s and were each around 8-10 months away from an upgrade (me 4 months into my annual my vzw upgrade, she was half way through a 2 year)...i must have called 25-30 times and spoken to half that many different CR's and supervisors, demanding that they move our upgrade dates up to get the BB Storm (lol, ikr) or that when our contracts were up we would leave for ATT to get the iphone because its what we both really wanted
basically everyone i talked to gave me the "ok, have fun with ATT" talk and refused to do anything except move *1* of our upgrades up by a few months....despite my carrying on that we had been customers since the late 90's (well i had been) it all fell flat
other times, however ive been successful in getting replacement devices with no ?s asked...wife actually dropped her first tbolt and it stopped working (but showed no real damage) and we got it replaced for free w/o insurance...and i got my fascinate replaced with the inc2 when the speaker failed (and the fascinate was actually a used device bought off ebay a few weeks after its launch)
so its all situational i suppose
/end rambling
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Won't be your last unlimited plan upgrade. Vzn released a follow up statement saying people with unlimited plans will be able to keep them but that they will have to buy their phones at full retail price. Once you upgrade through discounted pricing on a phone, that will be when they'll take your unlimited data away and put you on one of the new plans
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I'm in the same boat. We both have unlimited data planes and I'm sure she ain't going to want to pay $700 for her phones lol
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Ok if you wait till your contract is up you will have more leverage i have done it multiple times and even got one of my lines upgaded to a better u.nlimited ie 5 gb instead if 2 gb at no extra cost talk to someone higher up and results will follow. Tell them why woild i pay you x amount when i can change carriers for cheaper
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I was at the Verizon store today and asked about them about the Incredible 4g. Said it was supposed to be out this month but its delayed until probably next month. I also asked if it will be out before Verizon kills the unlimited plan and he says they have decided not to do it ans they got a corporate email saying so. Not that I believe them anyway just stating what they said.
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I was at the Verizon store today and asked about them about the Incredible 4g. Said it was supposed to be out this month but its delayed until probably next month. I also asked if it will be out before Verizon kills the unlimited plan and he says they have decided not to do it ans they got a corporate email saying so. Not that I believe them anyway just stating what they said.
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Your last sentence said it all... Cardinal rule of Verizon: never believe anything the salespeople say. It's never right.
I was a former in store tech for vzw before they laid us all off and i still have good friends that work as sales reps and one told me he heard a rumor about this taking affect at the end of june. Again its just a rumor but we all know its coming. If i hear anything gurther i will post my findings
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Browsing other forum.. Thought I would share. Either you sign it or you don't. Not here to debate the pros and cons of the situation. Or "abuse" of the unlimited data plan, or if we're making Verizon lose money or not. Enjoy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26209945#post26209945
I thought Verizon came out saying this is not the case for grandfather upgrades?
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Only if you purchase a device at full cost and are not going from 3G -> 4G.
If you currently have 4G, upgrade now.
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Only if you purchase a device at full cost and are not going from 3G -> 4G.
If you currently have 4G, upgrade now.
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Wait I had 3G unlimited then my free upgrade was due so I got my Rezound 4G and was told I am being grandfatherd in to 4G unlimited. Your telling I am loosing it? If that's the case goodbye Verizon.
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Wait I had 3G unlimited then my free upgrade was due so I got my Rezound 4G and was told I am being grandfatherd in to 4G unlimited. Your telling I am loosing it? If that's the case goodbye Verizon.
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After the cutoff date, if you upgrade, you'll lose it. We don't know when the cutoff date is.
Signed it...
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Signed.
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signed.
Signed.
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I signed it even though they said they would only kill grandfathered data plans after your contract is done and you got a subsidized phone. I think I'm going to pay full price for my next phone so I can keep my unlimited data and I can upgrade my phone whenever the hell I want to.
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I signed it even though they said they would only kill grandfathered data plans after your contract is done and you got a subsidized phone. I think I'm going to pay full price for my next phone so I can keep my unlimited data and I can upgrade my phone whenever the hell I want to.
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That isn't acceptable to a lot of us. I certainly could not have afforded the $650 pricetag for the Rezound when I got mine in Dec. The only reason I'm on this phone is because of the subsidized upgrade price.
Wait a couple of months then get it on swappa or craigslist. That is what I am going to do.
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That isn't acceptable to a lot of us. I certainly could not have afforded the $650 pricetag for the Rezound when I got mine in Dec. The only reason I'm on this phone is because of the subsidized upgrade price.
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This.
When my contract expires, I'm gone from Verizon unless their plans drop in price.
I am a bit confused here. I admit I am bit thick headed sometimes but I called Verizon and they are telling me that I will have unlimited as long as I have a contract with them and even upgrading my phone they will never take my unlimited plan no matter if its 4g or 5g
I say call Verizon and get it from the horses mouth.
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I am a bit confused here. I admit I am bit thick headed sometimes but I called Verizon and they are telling me that I will have unlimited as long as I have a contract with them and will never take my unlimited plan no matter if its 4g or 5g
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That is because CSR's are like used car salesmen, they tell you what you want to hear. Not really lying to you but definitely not telling you the whole truth. Sometimes it because they just want to keep your business. Alot of the time it is because they are to stupid to know exactly what is going on. If you don't believe me, go into any Verizon Wireless corporate store and ask them were the antennas are for the Rezound. I'd go paychecks with you that 9 times out of 10 they will tell you they are inside of the phone.
Ok so this is how it sits as of right now, you have a few options:
1. If you are on a 3g device with unlimited data you can keep it after the deadline. If you want to upgrade to a new phone but want to keep your unlimited 3g data, you must buy the phone at full price.
2. if you did what most of us did and went from unlimited 3g to a new unlimited 3g/4g phone. you get to keep it till your contract is up. when it is up, and want to get a new phone and still have the unlimited data you must buy a new phone at full retail.
as of right now. we aren't hurting there business having the unlimited plan nor will they just straight take it away from us. the way they will force us off of the unlimited plans we have is to make us pay full price for a new phone when its time because they aren't stupid and know we the consumer will always be looking for the next best thing.
Looks like I'll be buying used phones off of craigslist once I'm tired of this phone. That is, unless the deadline is further out than my updgrade date.
for me. sprint is just as good as VZW where i live / work. so if i cant keep it im out.
*sigh* Hasn't been the best week for me and big red. In a heated moment of passion I decided to damn the man and order an unlocked GSM Gnex and opt for the $30 5gig data plan on Tmobile HSPA+... joke was on me because upon further analysis of their coverage map, and daily testing, I have come to realize that in a majority of places I go with my phone I would only have 2G coverage.... So having wasted the $30 and now a %15 restocking fee from google, I sit anxiously waiting for Verizon to announce WHEN the cutoff is.
Remember last summer? They eventually announced the exact day in July that people had to get a new contract with unlimited data, I had not paid any atention at the time because I was mid contract with a Droid2. I logged on tonight to check my account with Verizon again, and noticed that both my and my wife's phone on a family plan, each having $29.99 unlimited data plans, are due for an upgrade on June 30 (which I knew)... however my wife's LG Ally is now eligible for a subsidized upgrade NOW, a full month+ ahead of time?? I cautiously added the upgrade to my cart, and was prompted with the plan changes menu, where it still showed the phone as having $29.99 unlimited data, with a note that once that option was changed it could not be changed back...
Has anyone else seen this as well? So clearly we can indeed still upgrade from 3G to 4G at a subsidized price and keep unlimited data? Or at the very least until they announce the cutoff date.
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Has anyone else seen this as well? So clearly we can indeed still upgrade from 3G to 4G at a subsidized price and keep unlimited data? Or at the very least until they announce the cutoff date.
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Until the cutoff date. And we don't know when that is, sadly.
I just thought of this.
I'm on a 4 person family plan all with unlimited data. The 3 other people are willing to give up unlimited but I'm not. I'm willing to pay full price for my phone but I figured out a way to get it for cheaper.
Open a 5th line for $9.99 per month. Use this line's upgrade every 20 months. Swap the upgraded phone with a spare feature phone.
$9.99 x 20 (cost to maintain 5th line) = $200
$250 (subsidized phone after taxes)
= $450
Paying $450 vs $650 for full retail would be a $200 savings. Better than nothing right?
Yes but you would have to have data on that line also for a bit, then dump the data and keep a dumbphone activated
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Yes but you would have to have data on that line also for a bit, then dump the data and keep a dumbphone activated
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I can just keep data for 1 day and dump it...and that's where the $9.99 x20 comes in. Keeping it activated for 20 months.
The problem is, as soon as you upgraded that line, forcing a new contract, they could, conceivably, seeing as you would be out of contract on the rest of your lines, force you out of unlimited.
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I can just keep data for 1 day and dump it...and that's where the $9.99 x20 comes in. Keeping it activated for 20 months.
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In the past I was able to activated the phone without adding data on my second line/dumbphone line. question so do they charge partial month for 1 day of data?
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In the past I was able to activated the phone without adding data on my second line/dumbphone line. question so do they charge partial month for 1 day of data?
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good question, I kept data on that line for a month just to be sure I wouldn't have any issues.
Also, if you are going to go this route, better off waiting for big deals like amazon's 1 penny deal.
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good question, I kept data on that line for a month just to be sure I wouldn't have any issues.
Also, if you are going to go this route, better off waiting for big deals like amazon's 1 penny deal.
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They will charge you for that half of day so like a dollar
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If you buy off of Amazon it has to remain on the upgraded line for 181 days or they charge you $250. FYI
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If you buy off of Amazon it has to remain on the upgraded line for 181 days or they charge you $250. FYI
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umm, no they don't. Bought several phones off of amazon, as long as the line stays active, they don't know what you are doing on it. They get a commision based of selling you the line.
I've bought 5 phones on amazon and swapped them between lines and put a dumb phone on one of the lines a month after I got it. No fees.
That's my plan and it'll work don't let people BS you and say it won't. People trollen around because their not unlimited.
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I'm a bit confused. I thought that after 06/28/2012, if you upgrade a phone thats on a family plan, with a new one at a subsidized price they force you and all lines in the shared plan to move to the new shared data plans.
That would technically screw the other people with unlimited data on the family share plan. Verizon might be able to get away with this because you have to sign a new contract for the upgrade. This contract would override any previous ones.
I could be completely wrong but I thought the reason you could keep unlimited data if you paid full price for a new phone is you don't sign a new 2 year service contract. Basically if you pay full price for a phone Verizon could care less if you even activate it. Not that a sane person would do this but you could go into a store, pay full retail for a phone and smash it with a hammer right there on the sales counter.
Am I completely missing something?
Another thing I can't figure out are people not in a family share plan. If someone only has 1 line with unlimited data, how can they force you into the new plans if you upgrade your phone at the subsidized price? You can't share data without having another phone.
I believe that after the 28th any line change, other than a device change for warranty or full retail purchase will require a new contract, therefore removing unlimited on all lines.
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I believe that after the 28th any line change, other than a device change for warranty or full retail purchase will require a new contract, therefore removing unlimited on all lines.
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They can't do that though without letting you out of your contracts. Each line has its own contract.
Interesting topic here. I was thinking of something similar the other day. Definitely keeping up with this thread!
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I just thought of this.
I'm on a 4 person family plan all with unlimited data. The 3 other people are willing to give up unlimited but I'm not. I'm willing to pay full price for my phone but I figured out a way to get it for cheaper.
Open a 5th line for $9.99 per month. Use this line's upgrade every 20 months. Swap the upgraded phone with a spare feature phone.
$9.99 x 20 (cost to maintain 5th line) = $200
$250 (subsidized phone after taxes)
= $450
Paying $450 vs $650 for full retail would be a $200 savings. Better than nothing right?
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Don't forget about the taxes and other charges on the line. I have around an additional $8-$9 in taxes and other fees on that line.
My plan was that since my sister has the 2 GB data plan that if I ever had an upgrade in the future, I could give her mine and then buy the phone with her line, then just put my SIM in it. I still keep my unlimited and get the subsidized Price
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You don't have to keep data activated at all. They don't require it, yet. I did this with an upgrade to the Tbolt for the reasons you said. Heck, if you buy the phone 250 then pay the 350 ETF you still come out ahead of paying full comp.(albeit not by much.) The actual line charge ends up being about ~14 a month. so really 280 instead of 200. But that being said, its still cheaper than the full retail way. I had the money to buy the Tbolt outright, but I still did it that way because it was cheaper.
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You don't have to keep data activated at all. They don't require it, yet. I did this with an upgrade to the Tbolt for the reasons you said. Heck, if you buy the phone 250 then pay the 350 ETF you still come out ahead of paying full comp.(albeit not by much.) The actual line charge ends up being about ~14 a month. so really 280 instead of 200. But that being said, its still cheaper than the full retail way. I had the money to buy the Tbolt outright, but I still did it that way because it was cheaper.
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What do you mean you do not have to keep data activated at all? Are you saying there's a way around paying for data for a smartphone?
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What do you mean you do not have to keep data activated at all? Are you saying there's a way around paying for data for a smartphone?
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No, just on the new line. She never activated data on my "new" line when I bought the thunderbolt. She just activated the sim to my current number and I put it in. Which now, if I did it again, I wouldn't even have to get a new sim. She, the VZW rep, just activated an old Krzr I had on the last line and it is still there without ever having data activated on that line. I was saying that I was never charged extra for not having data on that "new" line even though I used it to buy a "smartphone".
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What do you mean you do not have to keep data activated at all? Are you saying there's a way around paying for data for a smartphone?
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He means putting a dumb phone on that line that doesn't use data. Then you just pay the line fee of 10 bucks a month.
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Looked at all the reviews and comparisons to other phones but my focus is on the S4 but the real question is, Would you be willing to lose your unlimited data to upgrade to this phone?
You don't have to lose your unlimited to get this phone. You just have to pay full price unless your on a 3G only phone which if that's the case, you WiLL probably lose I when you get a 4g LTE phone. Now you might be able to argue to keep it, but that is doubtful.
Depending on your normal usage, only you can determine if losing unlimited is truly worth it
Just buy the phone unsubsidized and keep your unlimited data
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No phone is worth that. Are you on a family plan or a single line? If you're on a family plan, make a new line and then transfer your phone over to your main line. You'll come out about 200 dollars ahead of buying it straight up. Just be honest and let the salesperson know what you want. It's worked for me every time.
You'll have to keep that other line going for ten a month for the contract period, and you gotta put a dumb phone on it.
I'd wait for the Note 3 if even considering this, otherwise buy a used phone from Craiglist or full price subsidized.
You could do the twelve month installment plan. Need to do this at a corporate store.
If you use much data, no device is worth losing unlimited.
I currently have a galaxy nexus on a single line plan.
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You could do the twelve month installment plan. Need to do this at a corporate store.
If you use much data, no device is worth losing unlimited.
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I average about 4-7GB a month, so a 6GB plan might work.
You don't have to lose your data package. Regardless of your current phone. It is all a matter of talking to the right rep for an alternate upgrade (extending the contract of another line on the plan) or paying full price.
I went from the iPhone 4 to the S4. Paid full price, but you can still get discounts as referred to above. Verizon tries to tell retailers to not allow for it but most use the eRoes system and I know for a fact after using it for nearly 5 years that it can be done. Verizon just doesn't make as much money.
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I average about 4-7GB a month, so a 6GB plan might work.
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The 6GB "Share Everything" plan (the new plans) come out to be $120/month for one smartphone. What are you paying now? If you are paying less than $120/month, consider that in your decision.
You may save money in the short term, but if you're paying $100/month right now and upgrade at the discounted S4 price to the 6GB Share Everything plan (and keep that plan for the full 24 months), you'll be paying an extra $480 over the life of the contract, not including any overages you may get (since you said you average up to 7GB).
I'm not sure what the current S4 upgrade price is, but I paid ~$650 full retail for mine. Had I upgraded at a discount and got the data plan that I would feel comfortable with, I would have ended up paying at least $30 more over 2 years then my current single line plan with unlimited data (assuming that I didn't need to upgrade to a higher data plan!). Not much, but every little bit counts.
I pay about 92.00 with my discount through my job.
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Here's my suggestion. Go to a best buy Mobile (I work there) and buy the phone outright but make them price match a Verizon corporate store (new corporate policy "low price guarantee"... And BBM sells the phones at a higher outright price) and get a best buy credit card. You will get 18 months to pay the phone off with no interest (payments will be lower than VZW installments).
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androidrookie84 said:
Looked at all the reviews and comparisons to other phones but my focus is on the S4 but the real question is, Would you be willing to lose your unlimited data to upgrade to this phone?
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Nevermind I should read the first page before I start talking.
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If you have an old basic phone, open a line for it, $9/mo. Transfer your upgrade to that line. Activate new phone on that line. Transfer phone to your unlimited line. Activate basic phone back on the 9/mo line.
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Might buy a cheap basic phone and try that.
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If you have an old basic phone, open a line for it, $9/mo. Transfer your upgrade to that line. Activate new phone on that line. Transfer phone to your unlimited line. Activate basic phone back on the 9/mo line.
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No. I came from sprint and now I am sad.
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It was for me. I didn't want to lose Unlimited but I never go over a gig, so I figured why pay full price and bother try to hold on to something I don't really need? Paying $160 for this phone and keeping my existing monthly payment seemed like the smarter decision for me.
Verizon is smarter than you guys give them credit for. First, a couple of years ago they started calling around "secretly" telling people that if they want a smart phone to do it now because unlimited data was going away. Then, after they get you hooked, throw away the Grandfathered customers and hook you onto a tiered plan. Whats the next step? http://aboutus.verizonwireless.com/leadership/area/index.html
Now, to save money on phones you get an LTE only (ie. all data) phone for everything. What can you do? Nothing really, but you can let yourself be heard.
http://aboutus.verizonwireless.com/leadership/area/index.html
Find your regional VP and tell them how disappointed you are in the treatment if the loyal customers. Be courteous, but firm in your disappointment.
I considered ditching my unlimited data plan since I never came close to using it... but that's because my last phone (an original Motorola Droid) was so laggy that I couldn't take advantage of unlimited. Now with my S4 I'm doing a lot of stuff that wasn't possible or realistic on my older phone and I can easily blow through a gig over a weekend. Glad I bought mine used.
Yeah, don't ditch unlimited. The more super BA your phone is, the more data it will consume. Going from a 3G to a 4G phone my data doubled.
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In March, I did. It's in my new contract. My old Unlimited Data/email plan from 2007....im definitely NOT complaining. Though, im still paying big bucks for VZW. Sucks when they are the only ones that work well in your area.
I should add that I bought this GS4 on VZ's website. $137 after taxes and other crap with 2 yr contract.
Moved from Sprint to VZW. Back in 2011 VZW had better signal here. 3 years later, Sprint has the better towers, unlocked phones and unlimited data. Def regret that transition.
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Got my vzw galaxy s4 from best buy(phone, case, and screen protector) for $85. I also got to keep my unlimited data plan. The asshole at vzw lied and told me that best buy could only offer the 2gb.
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I upgraded...I used the available upgrade on my unlimited line, transferred the upgrade to my wife's 2GB line, bought the S4 on upgrade, then had it activated on my unlimited line. She still has her upgrade coming up too.
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In March, I did. It's in my new contract. My old Unlimited Data/email plan from 2007....im definitely NOT complaining. Though, im still paying big bucks for VZW. Sucks when they are the only ones that work well in your area.
I should add that I bought this GS4 on VZ's website. $137 after taxes and other crap with 2 yr contract.
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You did this by transferring an available upgrade to another line (that does not have Unlimited Data), then upgrading that line? Or how?
I upgraded two of my lines to the s4 and kept unlimited on both of them. I used two dumb phone upgrades, once the phones arrived I activated them, swapped my SIM cards and called to pull data off those lines. Was really easy.
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You did this by transferring an available upgrade to another line (that does not have Unlimited Data), then upgrading that line? Or how?
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Only have one line. Always only one line. I am familiar with the trick of using a second line to keep the unlimited, but I never did that. All I did was go to the website, login... click upgrade... add GS4 to cart ...pay for..confirm..finish.
That was actually my second attempt to buy the GS4. I had went online to buy it a week before but backed out in the 2nd step. It was where a popup would come on screen and force you to change your data plan to a tiered data plan because it said my current unlimited data plan could no longer be used. ....Well..the 2nd time I went to buy it, that screen never came up. Idk man. I was like.....whistle whistle..just waiting for it. Im glad it didnt because that More Everything plan is a joke. I cant believe they'd charge THAT much for just 2GB..WTF how they call that MORE?
Thanks, Cops. That is good to know, Very interesting.
I got my GS4 last May and I did it using the transfer-an-upgrade trick, but it was a PITA because I didn't actually have a second line at the time (and still don't, but that's another story). Anyway, I'll probably be sticking with my GS4 until my current contract is up - so, another ryear. But, it's good to know a new trick to try the next time I want to upgrade.
Yeah, it has to be a glitch in the VZW website. I was using Firefox so maybe its an issue with how FF handled the script on the page?
Wish I had better choices here where I live. I researched....only AT&T and T-mobile..AT&T is just as bad as VZW in crappy plan pricing. TMO has crappy coverage here as well as Sprint. I hate having very limited choices.
Edge plan
THE-COPS said:
In March, I did. It's in my new contract. My old Unlimited Data/email plan from 2007....im definitely NOT complaining. Though, im still paying big bucks for VZW. Sucks when they are the only ones that work well in your area.
I should add that I bought this GS4 on VZ's website. $137 after taxes and other crap with 2 yr contract.
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I went with the edge plan with 2 lines and 12 GB data for $172. Sacrificed unlimited data for every year upgrade.
Gahar said:
I went with the edge plan with 2 lines and 12 GB data for $172. Sacrificed unlimited data for every year upgrade.
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damn dude you went from the very best value plan to the very worst value plan
joshm.1219 said:
damn dude you went from the very best value plan to the very worst value plan
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My bill was around $185 with unlimited data and1400 minutes but total data usage for both phones were around 5 GB. So i went with edge plan and now no need to wait two years for upgrade. $10 saved is $10 gas for my car. Lol
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Gahar said:
My bill was around $185 with unlimited data and1400 minutes but total data usage for both phones were around 5 GB. So i went with edge plan and now no need to wait two years for upgrade. $10 saved is $10 gas for my car. Lol
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Well if you simply don't use a lot of data i guess you save money dropping the unlimited data. Edge is the worst plan though. You have to pay half of the phone's full retail value before you can upgrade, then you trade the device in. So an S5 that would normally cost you $200 will now cost you $350. Say you bought the S4 for $200 on an upgrade last year, you could've sold it for ~$400 right before the S5 dropped. You could spend another $300 and get the S5 so still cheaper than Edge. Then next year, when you have another upgrade, you could sell the S5 for say the same $400 and spend the usual $200 for a phone on an upgrade. Then you're up $200 as well as having a new phone.
So, over two years, just by doing some simple work and selling your old phone yourself, you'll spend a total of ~$300 for three new phones. Getting three new phones on edge over two years will cost you about $1,050.
joshm.1219 said:
Well if you simply don't use a lot of data i guess you save money dropping the unlimited data. Edge is the worst plan though. You have to pay half of the phone's full retail value before you can upgrade, then you trade the device in. So an S5 that would normally cost you $200 will now cost you $350. Say you bought the S4 for $200 on an upgrade last year, you could've sold it for ~$400 right before the S5 dropped. You could spend another $300 and get the S5 so still cheaper than Edge. Then next year, when you have another upgrade, you could sell the S5 for say the same $400 and spend the usual $200 for a phone on an upgrade. Then you're up $200 as well as having a new phone.
So, over two years, just by doing some simple work and selling your old phone yourself, you'll spend a total of ~$300 for three new phones. Getting three new phones on edge over two years will cost you about $1,050.
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Damn. I guess HR people from my job didn't do their math and if they did its their lost. Nice to know the price breakdown. Thanks
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