[Q]Moving apps to SD? - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4

Is there a way to move apps to SD to free some internal memory? I'm currently running CM10.1

AshyKnuttz said:
Is there a way to move apps to SD to free some internal memory? I'm currently running CM10.1
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try foldermount.
Of course some of those applications should be movable to sd anyways. I wouldn't move anything that you use often. I wouldn't move anything that needs to be active most of the time, i.e. widgets.

My understanding---and someone correct me if I'm wrong---is no. The way the S4 mounts the SD card means that it's not recognized as external. I believe even the stock update doesn't really move apps, or at least appdata, to the SD card.
Now, I await someone to tell me that I'm wrong, or at least that I'm right for the wrong reasons.
MW

Macknzie said:
My understanding---and someone correct me if I'm wrong---is no. The way the S4 mounts the SD card means that it's not recognized as external. I believe even the stock update doesn't really move apps, or at least appdata, to the SD card.
Now, I await someone to tell me that I'm wrong, or at least that I'm right for the wrong reasons.
MW
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The SD card is recognized as external and is treated as such. What you're thinking of is the internal partition labeled SD card, which is emulated. The external card is its own entity in the file system and is denoted as external.
As for the OP, a third party app is the best and only way to move apps AND their data to your external SD card.
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Just want to clarify that foldermount is a solution for those apps you can't move into the SD card with apps2sd or some program like that.

najaboy said:
The SD card is recognized as external and is treated as such. What you're thinking of is the internal partition labeled SD card, which is emulated. The external card is its own entity in the file system and is denoted as external.
As for the OP, a third party app is the best and only way to move apps AND their data to your external SD card.
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You know an app that would work on GS4/CM10?

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Not saving to sd card?

How do i get stuff to save to sd instead of internal memory? I see in root explorer /sdcard and /sdcard-ext which is my my sdcard.
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It will ask you where you want to to save files to. Try going into the file manager.
kkwus74 said:
How do i get stuff to save to sd instead of internal memory? I see in root explorer /sdcard and /sdcard-ext which is my my sdcard.
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I know what you mean - I don't see a way to do this by default across the board. Some apps let you choose the backup location and you'd have to type in the path you wrote above. Other than that, aside from some of the stock Moto apps that let you specify saving to the "SD Card" - which is actually the card, other apps will only identify the internal memory thinking it is the "SD Card".
I don't like how Moto made the internal memory identify itself as the SD Card.
kiwiBeans said:
I know what you mean - I don't see a way to do this by default across the board. Some apps let you choose the backup location and you'd have to type in the path you wrote above. Other than that, aside from some of the stock Moto apps that let you specify saving to the "SD Card" - which is actually the card, other apps will only identify the internal memory thinking it is the "SD Card".
I don't like how Moto made the internal memory identify itself as the SD Card.
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Precisely what i mean. thanks.... Hmmm.... Kinda crappy that you can't change in most apps to automatically save to sd card. Kinda defeats the purpose of one.
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Wait a sec... Sdcard-ext is the actual sd card? And the regular sdcard is the internal storage? Oooohh that explains alot then. I was so confused about that. For some reason I though the phone was partitioning the sd card into two... Woops lol
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New Note, lots of questions Part1

Got my new Note, this is my first droid phone, and I got LOTS of questions. I currently have the i717 version, unrooted.
1) Is currently is any reliable way to install ICS on the i717?
2) How do I check if there were any previous kernel or ROM flashes?
3) Is there a reliable way to root the device WITHOUT increasing the counter (assuming it is currently at 0)?
4) How do I move installed apps, which are currently under "System Storage" to "USB storage"?
I can answer all of your questions very simply. Search and read.
yep all ur answers are here just gotta read,
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Hi guys, found 2 answers so far, still looking for #1 and #4 if someone can point me to the right threads to ready it would be appreciated.
no ics for this device just yet and to move to sd there's an app u can use i just don't know the name or i think u can even use root explorer not sure on that one ill let someone else shine in on that
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funziebear said:
no ics for this device just yet and to move to sd there's an app u can use i just don't know the name or i think u can even use root explorer not sure on that one ill let someone else shine in on that
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Ya from what I gathered, there is ICS for the international version. I have yet to see something for the i717.
I dont have an SD yet, I was referring to moving them from System to USB storage.
I will be getting as SD soon though.
GalNote said:
Ya from what I gathered, there is ICS for the international version. I have yet to see something for the i717.
I dont have an SD yet, I was referring to moving them from System to USB storage.
I will be getting as SD soon though.
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There are two potential SD cards for the Note. One is the internal SD card. This is actually the part of the phone where you store your music and other files. It's the space allotted by the OS for storage. The Note comes with 16GB of internal storage, but 2GB is reserved for the system. You cannot access this for data storage. There is also a portion of the internal SD card that is used by the OS itself.
The remaining amount of storage is about 12GB. This is accessible through a file explorer such as Root Explorer, ES File Explorer, etc, and is located in the /sdcard folder. This is where any App2SD type app will move apps to. This is also where you store your music and other files like photos, etc.
The Note also has a slot for an external SD card. To access it, you take the battery cover off and right next to the SIM card, there is a little slot for the micro SD card. The Note is published as handling up to 32GB micro SD cards, but there are plenty of people using 64GB micro SD cards with their phone.
Using the external SD card would allow you to add additional music and photos and other files. It is not used at all by the OS or system, so you would have as much space on it as you can after formatting it. (You lose some space after formatting.)
So to summarize: the Note has 16GB, about 12GB available through the internal SD card. You can add additional storage using the external SD card (officially up to 32 GB, unofficially up to 64Gb).
lactardjosh said:
There are two potential SD cards for the Note. One is the internal SD card. This is actually the part of the phone where you store your music and other files. It's the space allotted by the OS for storage. The Note comes with 16GB of internal storage, but 2GB is reserved for the system. You cannot access this for data storage. There is also a portion of the internal SD card that is used by the OS itself.
The remaining amount of storage is about 12GB. This is accessible through a file explorer such as Root Explorer, ES File Explorer, etc, and is located in the /sdcard folder. This is where any App2SD type app will move apps to. This is also where you store your music and other files like photos, etc.
The Note also has a slot for an external SD card. To access it, you take the battery cover off and right next to the SIM card, there is a little slot for the micro SD card. The Note is published as handling up to 32GB micro SD cards, but there are plenty of people using 64GB micro SD cards with their phone.
Using the external SD card would allow you to add additional music and photos and other files. It is not used at all by the OS or system, so you would have as much space on it as you can after formatting it. (You lose some space after formatting.)
So to summarize: the Note has 16GB, about 12GB available through the internal SD card. You can add additional storage using the external SD card (officially up to 32 GB, unofficially up to 64Gb).
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Got it, but still have a little question. I noticed when I install any app, it goes directly onto the 2GB system reserved space. What if I run out of that 2GB, what happens in that case, can I move the installed apps into the 12GB or I have to move it into the purchased/external SD card?
GalNote said:
Got it, but still have a little question. I noticed when I install any app, it goes directly onto the 2GB system reserved space. What if I run out of that 2GB, what happens in that case, can I move the installed apps into the 12GB or I have to move it into the purchased/external SD card?
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Read this paragraph again.
The remaining amount of storage is about 12GB. This is accessible through a file explorer such as Root Explorer, ES File Explorer, etc, and is located in the /sdcard folder. This is where any App2SD type app will move apps to. This is also where you store your music and other files like photos, etc.
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^^ got it, thanks.
K I researched and read, I still cannot find out if I can safely root my Bell i717, without increasing the flash counters.
Also, it seems there is no ICS yet available for this device.
Can someone please chime in?
wow this thread cleared up a lot for me. Still got a few questions though...so when i go to settings and click on an app and click "move app to sd" it moves it to the "internal sd" which has about 12gb of space? so then what goes on the external sd card? is the storage on the SD card ONLY accessible when you plug it into a computer and put it in mass storage mode? I remember when I had my nexus one, moving apps to sd actually put it on the external sd card..
The note is not a DROID. Droid is a verizon marketing term.
You can reset your flash counter. So even if you increase it by flashing CWM or rooting then just reset it back to 0. That's what I did.
Once CWM is installed flash all the ROMs you want through CWM. Just back up nandroid first and you can always go back.
I use a 64GB microSD card and store nandroid backups, photos, videos, podcasts, etc.
The internal SD (USB Storage) is used for app data.
GalNote said:
Hi guys, found 2 answers so far, still looking for #1 and #4 if someone can point me to the right threads to ready it would be appreciated.
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Root ir phone throigh odin then go search dev thread for the rom u want read the requiements then flash they r all good
note @ 1.83
... You don't need root to flash a ROM.
Instead of rooting with Odin, just flash CWM with Odin then flash the ROM from there.
The only reason to root first, is to run titanium backup if you so desire

Hello guys. how can i swap my internal Sd to external sd on galaxy note I717?

My phone recognized only the internal memory as apps data storage not my Sd card, so after downloading several games, my internal memory is full and my 32 gb Sd still empty. Any help is appreciated. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
abakarxda said:
My phone recognized only the internal memory as apps data storage not my Sd card, so after downloading several games, my internal memory is full and my 32 gb Sd still empty. Any help is appreciated. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
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Usually I hook up my phone to my computer. Under "My computer" it should have your cdrive and your phone. mine shows up "SGH-i717" and under that is my "card" and "phone" you can just move over pictures and movies from the phone to card. that should make some room for your phone. if this helped hit that thanks button
i know what u saying but i dont have any movies on phone. i only have games
If I understand your question then go to system settings, manage apps then click on the app and select move to Sd card.
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you know that the phone recognize only the internal memory as Sd so even if i move it still moving to the phone memory not to my micro Sd card.
abakarxda said:
you know that the phone recognize only the internal memory as Sd so even if i move it still moving to the phone memory not to my micro Sd card.
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Same way with a few phones. The external SD is for media and such while internal is for apps and such. No real fix, but you can get titanium backup and backup all of them to your external, then uninstall the ones you're not using. Restore then when you want to use them. That's what I end up doing
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We would need something like this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433436
Quote from the thread of what that does (I would actually like something like this for Note as my internal SD is practically full)
mattiadj said:
You have misunderstood something . The situation is simple. Transformer has a 16gb internal sd (in my case, I have 16gb version) and so this internal sd card of 16gb is used to store all my data! For apps in /data, apps storage in /sdcard/android/data and so on.
So if I install for example games like front line commando, gta 3, or gameloft games, shadowgun or something which needs extra resources to download, these apps download what they need into internal sd. And so the space in internal sd (which is the internal memory of tablet) became full quickly!! Why? Because the internal sd is viewed as sdcard and mounted in /sdcard and /mnt/sdcard and so is used as normal sd by apps! So transformer has a sdcard which is used both for apps installation and data storage!!! No nand or real internal memory!
External sd is used for nothing!!!
So why my script? This script is essential to fix this stupid behaviour!!
Your internal sd card is mounted to store all apps you wants and apps install on it only their apk files and necessary data. On external they stored all extra data resources and all they need!!!! On external! And internal is untouched!
So android info see this new situation in inverted way since in our transformer (and i think this is a big issue of Asus) what is mounted in /sdcard is considered as INTERNAL MEMORY and what is mounted in /Removable/MicroSD is viewed as EXTERNAL MEMORY.
Since this mod inverts mount point... The information in memory tab is inverted!
Let's now with an example.
If you install shadowgun game without my mod, it installs in you internal both game package (in /data) and 250mb of resource in /sdcard/Android/data/gamefolder.
So you have 300mb less in your INTERNAL SD!!
With my mod simply the 250 of extra resources are downloaded in you external sd!!! So you have 250mb save on internal sd to install other apps!!!!
I hope is all more clear now and is better understood how this mod is important!
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Wait, to the OP:
Did you format the new SD card, then power the phone off, remove the card, pop it back in and then power up again?
If you don't format the card initially, the phone won't recognize it at all.
If that's not what you were getting at initially, then ignore this post.
-Ryan
Did we make any progress on this situation? Has anyone found a way to move apps to the external sd card. And let me point out to the few that have posted in this thread. When you move apps to the sd card through app manger or apps to sd they only move to the internal sd card.
I'd really like a fix for this as well. My 16GB MicroSD is going unused because of it. I don't store movies or music on my phone, I stream all that. But all the Internal SD memory is full because nothing recognizes that there's more than one "SD" storage space.
GET the free app called GLtoextSD or something like that name search on play store it i'll help you.(it requires root)
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Market Link : https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5zbGYuTGlzdGdsQXBwIl0.
Swap External w/ Internal. Success!!
abakarxda said:
My phone recognized only the internal memory as apps data storage not my Sd card, so after downloading several games, my internal memory is full and my 32 gb Sd still empty. Any help is appreciated. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
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Hi abakarxda,
I think I l already replied to your question in another thread, but just in case. I just tried this yesterday, and it worked for me:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45341162&postcount=2
I hope this helps.

[Q] Any way to disable SD Card emulation?

My phone has alot of build in memory, so it emulates an SD card. But that runs out of space fast.
I have an SD card in it now, but it's mounted as sdcard2.
Can I disable the emulated SD card and make it goto the real sd card?
I can't move apps to the sd card because the sd card is emulated. Programs like link2sd don't give me the option to choose where I want to install to. It just chooses /mnt/sd card, which is the emulated card, not /mnt/sdcard2, which is the real one.
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it does not emulate an sdcard. all android devices recognise internal memory as an sdcard. externals cards are recognised as sdcard2, external_sd or sd-ext. its perfectly normal for it to be like that
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Reread my question. You didn't answer it.
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I know this is about a month old, but I figured I'd chime in in case you're still having the issue.
No, there isn't a way to disable the SD card emulation. At least not that I've found. Only thing I found that works was to root my phone, partition a portion of a 32gig sd card and use Link2SD to use that as the default install location.
The instructions I followed:
http://www.noypigeeks.com/android/tutorial-a-guide-to-link2sd/
Again this requires a rooted phone, but seeing as you run the same phone I do (if your signature is accurate) it's not a problem. Just follow the instructions at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40121670 Took me less than 10 minutes.
That seems to have worked, Thanks!
bubkusjones said:
I know this is about a month old, but I figured I'd chime in in case you're still having the issue.
No, there isn't a way to disable the SD card emulation. At least not that I've found. Only thing I found that works was to root my phone, partition a portion of a 32gig sd card and use Link2SD to use that as the default install location.
The instructions I followed:
http://www.noypigeeks.com/android/tutorial-a-guide-to-link2sd/
Again this requires a rooted phone, but seeing as you run the same phone I do (if your signature is accurate) it's not a problem. Just follow the instructions at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40121670 Took me less than 10 minutes.
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Worked. Thanks.
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Worked. Thanks.
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i appreciate all you guys/gals do! thank you!!
Masters2150 said:
My phone has alot of build in memory, so it emulates an SD card. But that runs out of space fast.
I have an SD card in it now, but it's mounted as sdcard2.
Can I disable the emulated SD card and make it goto the real sd card?
I can't move apps to the sd card because the sd card is emulated. Programs like link2sd don't give me the option to choose where I want to install to. It just chooses /mnt/sd card, which is the emulated card, not /mnt/sdcard2, which is the real one.
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The only working way for me is to install cyanogenmod 13 which will give you the opportunity to mount your second storage (sd card) as internal storage (first).

[Q] What exactly does moving apps to the SD card do?

I'd like to understand more about what happens internally when you move an app to the SD card. When you do this, how does the app know which bits have moved and what constitutes what can be moved and what can't. Does it do something like moving the files and the creating symbolic links to those files?
Then what happens when you upgrade and app? Assuming that it has some parts in the applications partition and some parts on the sd card, how does the upgrade know what files to put where?
Thanks for any clarifications. Feel free to point me towards another thread. When searching I couldn't really find and detailed information.
octessence said:
I'd like to understand more about what happens internally when you move an app to the SD card. When you do this, how does the app know which bits have moved and what constitutes what can be moved and what can't. Does it do something like moving the files and the creating symbolic links to those files?
Then what happens when you upgrade and app? Assuming that it has some parts in the applications partition and some parts on the sd card, how does the upgrade know what files to put where?
Thanks for any clarifications. Feel free to point me towards another thread. When searching I couldn't really find and detailed information.
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When you move the apps to the SD card its taking all the files needed to run that to the SD card. I may not be a 100% correct on this but im pretty sure that most System apps need to stay on the internal storage to run correctly and most 3rd party apps (games and such) can be moved the SD card to help free up space on the internal drive.
Droid Premium said:
When you move the apps to the SD card its taking all the files needed to run that to the SD card. I may not be a 100% correct on this but im pretty sure that most System apps need to stay on the internal storage to run correctly and most 3rd party apps (games and such) can be moved the SD card to help free up space on the internal drive.
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So in summary what you said is "the files are moved"? Thanks for that.
move apps to sd.
I would like to know where actually does the "move apps to sd" moves all the data, in which directory in sd card.
thanks in advance
The app will be installed in sd card but if that app has obb files then the files won't be moved to sd card cuz it has to be in internal in order to run properly..

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