Please? Ill love you forever and ever
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Please? Ill love you forever and ever
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This is real...just used the pure version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2343355
I'd rather you not love me forever and ever...
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I'd rather you not love me forever and ever...
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I should've been less callous when I made this post, but I'm aware of your GE attempt, and it's time for a more experienced dev to make this ROM happen. I'm really tired of the radio issues with yours. I've tried nearly every update you have created since your original and it doesn't appear a whole lot of progress has been made over the last month, In fact I'm pretty sure your 4.6 edition with smoother than this last one.
I constantly have issues with the radio, and the carrier banner has yet to be even removed (much less fixed, although I would just be happy with it being removed).
I appreciate the effort, but Im hoping that someone can create a smooth GE dump and have it be done with. I absolutely hate touchwiz, and Im tired of this touchwiz AOSP skins when the real thing is so much better.
Nitro's Eclipse s4 GE dump is pretty nice, but it still has the same radio issues as yours. But at least he got the carrier banner removed. I kind of like the inverted stuff too, but ive been waiting months to see the power of the GS4 behind stock android.... without ANY issues
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I should been less callous when I made this post, but I'm aware of your GE attempt, and it's time for a more experienced dev to make this ROM happen. Im really tired of the radio issues with your's. Ive tried nearly every update you have created since your original and it doesn't appear a whole lot of progress has been made over the last month, In fact Im pretty sure your 4.6 edition with smoother than this last one.
I constantly have issues with the radio, and the carrier banner has yet to be even removed (much less fixed, although I would just be happy with it being removed).
I appreciate the effort, but Im hoping that someone can create a smooth GE dump and have it be done with. I absolutely hate touchwiz, and Im tired of this touchwiz AOSP skins when the real thing is so much better.
Nitro's Eclipse s4 GE dump is pretty nice, but it still has the same radio issues as yours. But at least he got the carrier banner removed. I kind of like the inverted stuff too, but ive been waiting months to see the power of the GS4 behind stock android.... without ANY issues
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Dude, the GE IS touchwiz with an AOSP skin.
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Dude, the GE IS touchwiz with an AOSP skin.
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Wrong it's aosp, with tw framework bits in it.
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Dude, the GE IS touchwiz with an AOSP skin.
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Wrong it's aosp, with tw framework bits in it.
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You know what I meant, i just used a bit of hyperbole. Its AOSP with TW elements underneath. The AOSP may go a little bit deeper than the skin, but its still pretty much AOSP outside and TW inside. TW inside was the OP's issue, and its inextricable from an S4 GE ROM. If you take all the TW elements away, its not really a GE ROM anymore. Unless Dubsy misinformed us, which I doubt.
And the OP's other issue, the radio, is pretty much always the main issue when porting from another device.
GE GS4s are getting the 4.3 updates as of today. Hopefully someone will come out with a 4.3 GE dump soon (that runs smooth)... fingers crossed
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GE GS4s are getting the 4.3 updates as of today. Hopefully someone will come out with a 4.3 GE dump soon (that runs smooth)... fingers crossed
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Got to say I am with you on getting a good GE ROM. I have not tried Dubsy's latest, but nitro's 1.5 is pretty dang smooth. I had a few data drops yesterday, but I didn't notice any today (didn't use the phone as much, though), so if the data drops, it must come back. Going to be on radio all weekend, so I will get more experience with it. I think its stable enough for a DD.
Both Nitro's and Dubby's run fantastically with no data drops!
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I am really hopeful for Nitros. I was using his yesterday and liked it, but I still would like the radio to be ironed out.
Dubsys had many little issues that made it impossible to use on a daily basis. One problem I continue to have is that any phone number starting with "+1" must be redialed without the +1... half my contacts are like that and it is incredibly annoying.
For the amount of time Dubsy has had to work on it, I feel like this issues should've been addressed by now. I think I speak for a lot of the community here when I ask for a more experienced developers help on this GE port.
There is not and will not be a Google Experience S4 for Verizon. Porting the international version requires a ton of adjustments to make the radio functional for us. Dubbsy has really stepped up for us and done way more than he initially planned. Nitro took that base and added some nice things as well. Without their work, we may not have anything GE-related at this point. Be patient and have fun with what we get. Not good enough? Become a dev, or switch to AT&T.
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There is not and will not be a Google Experience S4 for Verizon. Porting the international version requires a ton of adjustments to make the radio functional for us. Dubbsy has really stepped up for us and done way more than he initially planned. Nitro took that base and added some nice things as well. Without their work, we may not have anything GE-related at this point. Be patient and have fun with what we get. Not good enough? Become a dev, or switch to AT&T.
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Can't become a dev, I work way too much, and I'm contracted to Verizon which sucks. I think Nitro will get it down in a bit. But like I said, I'm sure there are devs out there that can do it. So I disagree with you
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Can't become a dev, I work way too much, and I'm contracted to Verizon which sucks. I think Nitro will get it down in a bit. But like I said, I'm sure there are devs out there that can do it. So I disagree with you
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I hear you about working too much. And I'm sure there are other devs out there working on their own GE projects. The way you phrased the op and title just discredits our existing GE devs' work. This kind of thing takes time for even the most skilled, so I think it's important to value any time someone is actively working for the good of the community.
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I hear you about working too much. And I'm sure there are other devs out there working on their own GE projects. The way you phrased the op and title just discredits our existing GE devs' work. This kind of thing takes time for even the most skilled, so I think it's important to value any time someone is actively working for the good of the community.
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Especially considering devs on XDA share their work for free.
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I hear you about working too much. And I'm sure there are other devs out there working on their own GE projects. The way you phrased the op and title just discredits our existing GE devs' work. This kind of thing takes time for even the most skilled, so I think it's important to value any time someone is actively working for the good of the community.
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True, but I actually am fairly upset, because while dubbsy claims to be doing this project, it may be detracting other devs from taking on the project themselves. I am getting tired of flashing each *new* update, which doesn't appear to be fixing any of the bugs. Then I have to odin, re flash etc etc, which takes hours of time. It has been over a month that I have been watching these projects and seen little improvement, and like I said, I am sure I am not the only person I speak for when I say this.
Going back to Nitro's as we speak. Hopefully I can get this 4g working this time
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True, but I actually am fairly upset, because while dubbsy claims to be doing this project, it may be detracting other devs from taking on the project themselves. I am getting tired of flashing each *new* update, which doesn't appear to be fixing any of the bugs. Then I have to odin, re flash etc etc, which takes hours of time. It has been over a month that I have been watching these projects and seen little improvement, and like I said, I am sure I am not the only person I speak for when I say this.
Going back to Nitro's as we speak. Hopefully I can get this 4g working this time
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In my experience from other phones, 98% of roms are works in progress through the life of the phone. Yes most get to a "stable" point, which is subjective, but unless they're heavily stock-based it takes awhile if it ever gets to that point. Coming from an HTC phone I have seen devs jump ship due to forum/community issues, so I may be sensitive to these types of comment. I
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In my experience from other phones, 98% of roms are works in progress through the life of the phone. Yes most get to a "stable" point, which is subjective, but unless they're heavily stock-based it takes awhile if it ever gets to that point. Coming from an HTC phone I have seen devs jump ship due to forum/community issues, so I may be sensitive to these types of comment. I
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Id love sbreen long time if he spent one night on this... that guys a wizard
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True, but I actually am fairly upset, because while dubbsy claims to be doing this project, it may be detracting other devs from taking on the project themselves. I am getting tired of flashing each *new* update, which doesn't appear to be fixing any of the bugs. Then I have to odin, re flash etc etc, which takes hours of time. It has been over a month that I have been watching these projects and seen little improvement, and like I said, I am sure I am not the only person I speak for when I say this.
Going back to Nitro's as we speak. Hopefully I can get this 4g working this time
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I really don't care if you're upset to be honest. Don't follow my threads, and don't use my roms... Pretty simple really.
From the beginning I posted a proof of concept to prove data alone, nothing else. I said for devs to contact me and I'd send the files for them to maintain. When it was clear no one was going to pick up and run with it I started modifying the framework to be at least a bit more stable. With the open offer still out there to share a fully decompiled GE working folder in a shared cloud.
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First things first...don't yell at me for creating this thread
Relatively new to android (I was an old school winmo guy for a long time *dcd!*) and now I wanna root my E3D and flash some other roms on it.
So the question is, what kinda roms do you all suggest? I love sense so any suggestions?
If you don't want to be yelled at...why not post in Q&A? This is a question right...
Anyway, Android Revolution HD is my favorite sense ROM now. MIUI is awesome if you want something radical, but is buggy. CM7 is good too but a bit buggy.
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JokeZony0u said:
First things first...don't yell at me for creating this thread
Relatively new to android (I was an old school winmo guy for a long time *dcd!*) and now I wanna root my E3D and flash some other roms on it.
So the question is, what kinda roms do you all suggest? I love sense so any suggestions?
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I've been using Deck's (kushdeck) sense rom for eons now. I've tried a bunch of other Sense roms, many of which were awesome, but a lot had some issues because they were nightlies or whatever. With deck's, I get unbelievable battery life in comparison to any other rom. It's a pretty standard sense rom, doesn't have much extra themeing, but it's extremely solid. (my nandroid of that rom is named KushSuperStable, lol).
If you don't wanna be yelled at, give your thread a legitimate name...
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I've been using Deck's (kushdeck) sense rom for eons now. I've tried a bunch of other Sense roms, many of which were awesome, but a lot had some issues because they were nightlies or whatever. With deck's, I get unbelievable battery life in comparison to any other rom. It's a pretty standard sense rom, doesn't have much extra themeing, but it's extremely solid. (my nandroid of that rom is named KushSuperStable, lol).
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I'm gonna have to agree here that Deck's ROM is wickedly awesome, but it's sad that he's gone ghost.
DDiaz007 said:
I'm gonna have to agree here that Deck's ROM is wickedly awesome, but it's sad that he's gone ghost.
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Yea, it is sad that he's gone ghost. I hope everything's alright with him in 'real life' and that all is well. Hopefully when he has some more free time he comes back over here. At least the way he left the rom is perfect, I have not one complaint about it and see no need to update it.
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Lmao!
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AndroidRevolution is great. Stock, but with ALOT of enhancements as well as having one of the best development teams on XDA!
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The most stable I have used thus far have been clean rom, steel rom, and virus' eternity roms (builds 1.1, 1.2.2, and 1.4)....
Either one of those will be solid and reliable. Virus 1.4.2 rom seems very solid as well but I haven't made the jump yet simply bec#use I want to put this one through the long haul test... been on this rom and the bc kernel v3 for over two weeks, over clocked at 1.62 ghz with not one issue.
I would give eternity 1.4 a shot
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Yea, it is sad that he's gone ghost. I hope everything's alright with him in 'real life' and that all is well. Hopefully when he has some more free time he comes back over here. At least the way he left the rom is perfect, I have not one complaint about it and see no need to update it.
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A g-g-g-ghost!?
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A g-g-g-ghost!?
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Yeah GhostFaceKillah.
I use CleanRom its stock with bloatware removed and some other enhancements.
SteelRom is my absolute favorite Sense based rom. But nothing will ever beat the awesomeness of CM7
Lot of good suggestions in here, but when it really comes down to it you need to read up and just try stuff.. Doesnt take much to nand and try a rom for yourself.
Another thing that matters is what YOU use on your phone..
For example, someone said that MIUI is radical which is very true but its awesome once you get used to it and that its buggy.. but that may not be true for everyone because for me its flawless for what I use it for.. I dont have 4g in my area so I could care less about that, I dont use any hotspot apps so that doesnt matter for me as some are having issues with that. 3D doesnt work but honestly I barely ever use it anyways..
Although I wouldnt recommend MIUI as your first rom to flash because it does take some getting used to.. and you also mentioned that you like sense.
Eternity is one of my favorites and I used it for a while, its sense but has some cool features that make it different then stock sense.
Again its hard to say which are best because there are so many talented Devs around that are making awesome roms.. so get used to nanding and dive in..
another vote for Eternity Rom.
Ive been with Eternity for several weeks now. I flashed MIUI temporarily and didnt like it, back to Eternity.
I am currently on 1.4.1 and Ziggy dual core kernal. Great benchmark scores @ 1.7
1.8 seems unstable on some of the benches like cf and antutu. But I typically just keep it at stock CPU speed anyhow, so Im not worried about it.
Some people seem to have more issues than others. Some the screen locks up on them while charging, others it wont go to sleep, some people the screen wont wake up during an incoming call.
Myself I havent had any issues really. My facebook app seems to force close quite a bit whenever I try to post on someones wall. I would like to see that fixed, but as far as I know, no one else really has that issue. So it may just be something glitchy on my phone.
But yes. Definitely try Eternity. You wont regret.
Thanks for all the suggestions guys, will definitely try out some of your suggestions!
Aside from the poor choice of thread title, we know nothing about the device. I guess I could've missed it skimming through all 2 pages. What Hboot is on the device? Figuring out which method to use and how far you'll be able to go is a good start. You should be checking out the root threads before asking about ROMs. Just a thought, not intended to be rude in any way.
Miui is the best rom hands down for looks and feel. And it gets better every week!
JokeZony0u said:
First things first...don't yell at me for creating this thread
Relatively new to android (I was an old school winmo guy for a long time *dcd!*) and now I wanna root my E3D and flash some other roms on it.
So the question is, what kinda roms do you all suggest? I love sense so any suggestions?
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You were dcd? I remember you back in the ppcgeeks days, I am thinking around the mogul and touch pro days. Maybe you should get back into cooking roms like you used to.
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I'm gonna have to agree here that Deck's ROM is wickedly awesome, but it's sad that he's gone ghost.
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I agree on Deck's ROM too, but because he has gone AWOL, I've switched over to CleanROM 2.7. It's just as reliable as Deck's ROM, battery life is almost as good, but you can OC and make it FLY while still retaining excellent battery life. And... it's more customizable than Deck's ROM.
I've run both Deck's ROM and CleanROM 2.7 long term and can recommend both. I'd give the edge to CleanROM though (there's a CleanROM Developer's Edition too).
Mike
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You were dcd? I remember you back in the ppcgeeks days, I am thinking around the mogul and touch pro days. Maybe you should get back into cooking roms like you used to.
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hahaha- no! I'm not the great (almighty) dcd. Don't know where he is nowadays, I was simply referring to how I used to flash his things
I have lots of my old unreleased roms stored up and am curious if you guys would like them.
These are the 2.2.1 i9000 releases, with signal fixes and home key haptic feedback.
The ones I haven't done I can get done in about a half hour. In fact, to get back in the swing of things, I have been redeodexing, fixing signal reboot and adding haptic to them one at a time - very helpful as a learning experience for me as my "Chemo Brain" sucked tons of knowledge away and I have to relearn a lot of it.
Anyway, do you guys have any interest in these or any of my unreleased past roms? I don't want to start a new thread if there is no demand for it.
Let me know!
Absolutely!!
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Welcome back jellette. I hope your doing allot better. Sounds like you are. Its good to see you back in the game.
And if anyone its wondering, Jellette made some bad ass roms. If you haven't tried his work I highly recommend it.
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jellette said:
I have lots of my old unreleased roms stored up and am curious if you guys would like them.
These are the 2.2.1 i9000 releases, with signal fixes and home key haptic feedback.
The ones I haven't done I can get done in about a half hour. In fact, to get back in the swing of things, I have been redeodexing, fixing signal reboot and adding haptic to them one at a time - very helpful as a learning experience for me as my "Chemo Brain" sucked tons of knowledge away and I have to relearn a lot of it.
Anyway, do you guys have any interest in these or any of my unreleased past roms? I don't want to start a new thread if there is no demand for it.
Let me know!
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Are they all pretty much the same? 2.2.1 based, differently themed etc. I honestly don't know how much you can change in like 8 ROMS on the same firmware.
If they are, I would just say Make one ROM thats the most stable; and then put the others as themes possibly for that one ROM?
I think you should also move along to ICS as the other devs have done, possibly join one of the devs and work with them rather than creating the same ROM, like there are right now about 8 AOKP Roms, which run the same, have a different kernel.
I'm interested in stock style 2.2 roms. Now that megauploads is gone most of the links in here are dead and we're stuck with ICS roms aren't 100% working or 2.2 roms that are so tweaked they're unreliable at best.
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I'm interested in stock style 2.2 roms. Now that megauploads is gone most of the links in here are dead and we're stuck with ICS roms aren't 100% working or 2.2 roms that are so tweaked they're unreliable at best.
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I suggest you try ICS Euphoria/Passion and ICZen those are the best in my book. no bugs at all.
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I suggest you try ICS Euphoria/Passion and ICZen those are the best in my book. no bugs at all.
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I did and had either problems with bluetooth, gps, mute/unmute, mic problems (which killed my bt headset), or all of them at the same time. They were all pretty bad. I need a phone that 100% works and ICS hasn't offered that yet. When it does I might switch but right now I'm content on near stock 2.2. All out speed isn't worth reliably IMO.
Jellete, i'm interested. I still have your BOJS5 rom on my sdcard. I'm sure people will love your new rom. Thanks
Chemo brain? Where have you been jellette. I thought you just moved on to other devices like our other good old devs. Were you not well?
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Chemo brain? Where have you been jellette. I thought you just moved on to other devices like our other good old devs. Were you not well?
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Yep, I HAD cancer - radiation and chemotherapy seem to have taken care of it though!
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Yep, I HAD cancer - radiation and chemotherapy seem to have taken care of it though!
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Cancer effing sucks. But at least you get to talk about it in the PAST tense! That's awesome!
My wife is a survivor - we got into Relay for Life. I'll be thinking of you this June when we relay!
Oh - and my wife still has 'chemo brain' - and her last infusion was in 2002.
Finally get kernel source and development slows down.. bummer
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too many new phones coming out!
Great things come to those who wait...
How is it slowing down
We have like a new kernel every day. Read Chad's dev thread he is going warp speed on his progress and we are becoming the only second verizon phone aside form the nexus to have aosp ( tbolt had it because of slayer ).
So right about now, i think if i had the money, i would re-buy the rezound, finally the perfect merge between hardware and software.
And beside all that, all of the devs are busy with school , yet they still have time to try on jelly bean and work on it.
Instead of making a thread like that, i would take the time, go press your max 8 thank yous to every thread and buy them a cup of coffee.
Ok this came out a bit hostile, i am sorry about that, but we have a bunch of awesome devs right, its like we have la creme de la creme now, and i feel completely opposite from you.
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Finally get kernel source and development slows down.. bummer
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Like the last guy said. I don't think it has slowed so much as it has shifted. Everyone seems to be working on soap now. Also school has started and people do have lives (i hope). It's still the weekend, get out there and enjoy it!
We are just getting like literally 100% cm9 like .. any day now. It's at 90% right now.
AOKP is not far behind, idk say 70% currently and will be 100% in a week to three weeks(total guess by me). We have MIUI, not sure where it's at right now haven't been looking. We have great ics ROM's. We have Great sense 4 ROM's. We have great kernels being pumped out everyday now. We have Fully functional GSM ROM's The dev's that are almost done with cm9 are getting into jelly bean now... what more do you want ...
oh yeah and 1-3 people are thinking of porting touch wiz over or something as well.
Edit 2: Oh it also looks like someone is working on paranoid android also hmm so what was it you wanted op a phone that prints cookies right before you get home?
mmm cookies that would be sick xD lawl
Edit 1: It hasn't slowed it has went warp speed in the background
lack of releases =/= lack of development.
And we'll probably be getting jb quite soon.
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That's a very snide way to look at development. It's not like this stuff happens over night.
Only thing I have to say is if your unsatisfied with development maybe you should learn to develop yourself. That way you can for fill your own needs. Not sure what people expect sometimes. We have about 4 different kernels all kinds of ROMs, and themes what the hell are you expecting? Let me get you some cheese..
I can tell by your 11 post and 1 thanks that you have a lot to contribute.. This thread should be closed..
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Only thing I have to say is if your unsatisfied with development maybe you should learn to develop yourself. That way you can for fill your own needs. Not sure what people expect sometimes. We have about 4 different kernels all kinds of ROMs, and themes what the hell are you expecting? Let me get you some cheese..
I can tell by your 11 post and 1 thanks that you have a lot to contribute.. This thread should be closed..
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Post vs thanks count isn't really a fair way to look at this. When I started out mine was really low too, but now I'm pretty helpful around here. (I fully agree the OP's attitude sucks though)
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You're kidding, right? The dev thread gets updated every day or so, and I believe chad just managed to fix bluetooth. We're getting ready to start on JB. Just buy a new phone if you want instant gratification
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We are just getting like literally 100% cm9 like .. any day now. It's at 90% right now.
AOKP is not far behind, idk say 70% currently and will be 100% in a week to three weeks(total guess by me). We have MIUI, not sure where it's at right now haven't been looking. We have great ics ROM's. We have Great sense 4 ROM's. We have great kernels being pumped out everyday now. We have Fully functional GSM ROM's The dev's that are almost done with cm9 are getting into jelly bean now... what more do you want ...
oh yeah and 1-3 people are thinking of porting touch wiz over or something as well.
Edit: It hasn't slowed it has went warp speed in the background
lack of releases =/= lack of development.
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Im trying to build ParanoidAndroid from source for us atm, including all the fixes that have happened since the last build was made. Im learning this as I go but I got cm9 built so I know I can do it.
Antp's cm9 kang works great, I've been running it for a few days now and haven't had any compliants about it! Once Devin works on uberkernel more and cm9 reaches full stability on our phones it will be awesome. I was running Neo's adrenaline and it was good but cm9 totally kicks it's ass! The battery life is absolutely amazing, I've had my phone on for 5 hours and I'm at 72% when I'd usually be at about 30 when on a sense rom!
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Post vs thanks count isn't really a fair way to look at this. When I started out mine was really low too, but now I'm pretty helpful around here. (I fully agree the OP's attitude sucks though)
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hahaha i just lol'ed at how you're patting yourself on the back there. classic ashton.
Wow. At times this forum is just not friendly. I'm guessing the OP feels this way because there are no JB roms yet. I can share the eager anticipation.
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lithium630 said:
Wow. At times this forum is just not friendly. I'm guessing the OP feels this way because there are no JB roms yet. I can share the eager anticipation.
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This community went through a lot. We love and respect our developers and their free work. We get riled up when people come and drive our dev away. If you want jb ( which i am sure is coming in due time ) then get the crappy nexus.
Dont forget, we have one of the only 3 phones on the network that can surf and talk on 3g, its a hard radio to figure but bec of out lightning speed developing , we now have aosp on one of the best hardware verizon has.
BTW, any one else think that verizon tech support are highly uneducated ... I keep trying to explain to them this surf and talk over 3g that makes it so special with our rezound and they go " yeah all of our 4g phones can do this on 4g networks , of if there is wifi and 3g. Are they retarted ???? what kind of crap is that , they dont even know their own phones ?
we should make more thread to ***** at verizon , not our devs. I would be down for that .
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Wow. At times this forum is just not friendly. I'm guessing the OP feels this way because there are no JB roms yet. I can share the eager anticipation.
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Your right...
OP what can we do for you to make it better?
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hahaha i just lol'ed at how you're patting yourself on the back there. classic ashton.
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I wouldn't say patting myself on the back, but rather relating my story for the OP
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Your right...
OP what can we do for you to make it better?
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I want a pony!
I vote we banish OP to my old phone. If this is slow development, then ours over there never even left the starting gate.
Why has this been locked?? There are no ICS ROM's that are any good??? Santod's basic ROM is just debloated stock.....
I really don't understand why they find the need to play God around here.... There are no ROM's!!! At this point there is no reason for an XDA Thunderbolt page!
STOP LOCKING THREADS... WHO GIVES A CRAP THAT IT IS OFF SANTOD'S BASE... THIS IS WHY THE PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE ANDROID... TOO MUCH POLITICS AND BULL CRAP.. JUST LET THESE GUYS MAKE GOOD ROMS SO WE CAN ENJOY OURSELVES...
THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BUILDING OFF OTHER PEOPLES WORK.. ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S CELL PHONE SOFTWARE!
JESUS H CHRIST..,..
Where can I find this ROM now? It has been removed from roots wiki as well?
5 custom ICS roms and 4 stock roms >>> HERE
Look around, there is more then just a stock rom there.
Don't speak about something you do not know the details of.
XDA has rules, so do other sites and when it comes to disrespecting me and the source from which you got your materials from, I then have rules too.
Besides, I have been told numerous times now that what I contributed wasn't anything, and easy enough to do.
So there should be no problem with it standing in any real devs way.
They simply make their own base and move on.
So crying about it is unnecessary for anyone involved, including me.
Everyone just does their own thing and moves on, simple as that.
I am hating on you Santod.. I have a lot of respect for you and i am sure everyone does.. I am on your rom right now.. The non eternity one... And it is honestly awesome, i just want a more aosp rom, i know you have a desense rom in the making but it has been pulled for weeks now.. I wanted to see mack, you, and jester all make a combined kick ass rom.. I am crying because i just want to see the tbolt finally succeed and with the help of all you great devs and hopefully an htc source code release.. The day may come.. I think you should all work together... Everyone respects all the devs but its awesome to see you guya work together.
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It's still on the host server and plenty are running it.
Check the last few pages of the thread....
I believe I posted 3-4 updates on that rom, this week alone.
Wow now I remember why I just got over this phone and moved on. Santod040 is the only one that attempted to integrate the patches into gb to get ICS for you guys. It wasn't a typical ruu, a lot of work had to go into that integration. And then everyone acted like it was open season on his work. His attitude might have been better if he was ever asked in the first place for it to be used. But he wasn't, and none of the other ICS roms really were any different than any of his. And I have seen a lot of people say that integrating the patches was easy work, but yet no other dev has done it themselves. There's a difference between development and taking someone else's rom zip, theming it, adding other tweaks also developed by someone else, and calling it yours.
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Wow now I remember why I just got over this phone and moved on. Santod040 is the only one that attempted to integrate the patches into gb to get ICS for you guys. It wasn't a typical ruu, a lot of work had to go into that integration. And then everyone acted like it was open season on his work. His attitude might have been better if he was ever asked in the first place for it to be used. But he wasn't, and none of the other ICS roms really were any different than any of his. And I have seen a lot of people say that integrating the patches was easy work, but yet no other dev has done it themselves. There's a difference between development and taking someone else's rom zip, theming it, adding other tweaks also developed by someone else, and calling it yours.
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This is a pretty good explanation of where I think santod is coming from even though it isn't coming from him directly. All of you are acting like it was some walk in the park or something to assemble the ota but it sure is taking all of you a lot longer than it took him to do.
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This is a pretty good explanation of where I think santod is coming from even though it isn't coming from him directly. All of you are acting like it was some walk in the park or something to assemble the ota but it sure is taking all of you a lot longer than it took him to do.
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Not really trying to speak for him, just back him up. It seems the easier rooting/roming becomes the less people seem to understand (or care to understand) what goes into development. They just want it now and don't care how they get it.
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Everybody respects Santod... but his ROM's are not on XDA they are on Infected Roms.... I am on his NuSense Rom for a while now.... It just seems ridiculous that Mack and Santod could not work together IMO... Now if Mack was refusing to give Santod his fully deserved credit for the Base and Stock Rom then yeah I understand.
I am not hating on Santod what so ever... I am getting the best battery life ever on his NuSense Sense 3.6 Rom... With Nova Launcher it actually moves pretty nice too for stock kernel...
Let's be honest though... Sense 3.6 sucks... Sense Sucks... We all want AOSP.. That is not happening until the Source get's released... so a Desensed Rom is something of extreme interest.
I can not wait for the Jelato Santod Rom to be done... I just figured maybe Mack or Jester may be able to throw Santod some ideas maybe and before you know if we would have a 10x better DeSensed ROM then if it was just by one particular Dev.
Yeah I mean the only thing that bugs me is that while Santod makes a good rom, he cant help himself from customizing it the way *he* likes it, and not the general public at times. Every time I use one of his roms I'm like "wow, amazing performance, sweet battery life, all the features but wtf is up with this font? Why this theme?". It'd be like getting a rewritten AOSP rom built from HTC's source, and then shipping it with a hello kitty theme I liked Mack's work because it had that truly vanilla feel to it with all the under the hood tweaks a launcher like Apex can offer. The new Jelato rom actually runs worse than the unsense rom, albeit just slightly. It's certainly better than Sense, but still kinda leaves something to be desired.
I guess what I ultimately dont get is why anybody cares if someone else rips off your work. It's not like either of them are being paid here, which means it all comes down to fame and recognition. If your motives are pure, and you are simply doing this for the community, then you should be happy that someone went and tweaked a new flavor of your rom for everybody to use. Why there's this whole desire for credit is beyond me. Seems kinda conceited. "How dare you steal my charitable donations!" What have you got to lose?
Like I said, I really dont want to see just one rom developer out there. If santod is the only one left with the skill to properly port these things, then he should be supportive of others customizing his work. It does do him or the community any good to horde all his development unless there's some sort of financial incentive in it for him and he needs revenue from this somehow. And if he gets bored or offended and quits then the TB community just dies forever? That sucks. If the only people left willing to contribute are kanger's, then let them! We cant have our entire community rest in the hands of one developer.
I support and help anybody and everybody that treats me with an ounce of respect.
IT IS NOT ABOUT CREDIT!!!!
I could give a **** about credits or your complaints about my theming.
Maybe the theming is my way of saying it's mine.
The original UnSense was about as Vanilla as it gets really.
If you don't like what I have to offer up, then don't use it, it's simple.
If the fact that someone else left their rom half sense and half aosp makes it more vanilla for you, then fine.
Use his pieced together rom, I don't care.
What do you guys want from me?
Sure, treat me like an asshole, but feel free to help yourself to my stuff....
Anyone whining about this still, needs to get a life.
Any real developer wouldn't have batted an eye, made their own base and rolled along.
If what I contributed was "nothing" and easy to do, why all the fuss?
By the way, everyone else loves the theme, you happen to be the first to complain about how it looks.
There is this thing called UOT and another called apktool, maybe you should find those and learn to use them, before you go criticizing anymore work of others.
You may find yourself with ZERO rom options!
Any useful thread on the matter that is not just santod vs the world or people complaining about locked threads will not be closed.
This is not such a thread.
They serve no useful purpose for the community.
If you have issue with this PM me, I am not looking to "play God" or any some such activity, but the denizens of this community must be spared such drama as found in this thread.
Let's all work together to create a better development community.
Hate to say it but looks like some Note 2 TW devs are leaving the phone. Seems they are vanishing weekly. Too bad because there were some great ROMs out there and I hate to see some of them go for the VZW variant. Really sad that VZW and Samsung are making things so difficult for devs these days. Makes me wonder if they left it open just long enough to steal hard working dev ideas for themselves without having to pay an R&D department to test the OS. Looks like AOSP 4.3 ROMs are starting to take off though, and with the addition of the App Bar, Halo and a host of other mods by great devs we still have a few options. That coupled with great mod apps in the Play Store you can almost get the TW experience with AOSP now.
Or maybe they are moving on to other projects until we get the 4.3 TW update. Then, hopefully some of them will return and develop for one of the top devices still on the market. The Note 3 will most likely be locked down like the S4 so I am thinking the Note 2 may be the last great Samsung device open to rooting and having the ability to flash custom ROMs.
To all the devs that made (or still making) great TW ROMs for our VZW Note 2, thanks for all your hard work. I know I have enjoyed being able to try different ROMs and tinkering with them. You all deserve donations and our gratitude. You guys and gals make the Android experience enjoyable for all of us.
I'm sure they will be back when we get the 4.3 update. This is the only phone that has an unlockable bootloader, with TW on verizon that's actually decent.
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I'm sure they will be back when we get the 4.3 update. This is the only phone that has an unlockable bootloader, with TW on verizon that's actually decent.
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Hopefully thats the case. Or it may be time to switch carriers. Kinda tired of VZW and their procedures anyway.
If I could I'd leave for an att mnvo but I can't
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I'm sure they will be back when we get the 4.3 update. This is the only phone that has an unlockable bootloader, with TW on verizon that's actually decent.
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What's wrong with the s3?
I'm sure the s4 will have an unlocked bootloader soon, especially with the 3k+ bounty.
TBH, this is what always happens. it makes sense that the devs move back to the latest phone. plus the note 3 is coming out soon too, so, yeah, pretty sure what happened to the s3 will happen to the note 2.
at first I really liked TW, but then I switched to the PACman rom and I haven't looked back. the features on TW are nice, but honestly I don't use them that much. i know every user varies, but there are a lot of apps out there that replace TW functionality. I really haven't noticed since switching. I just was unhappy being on 4.1.
As a TW ROM author for the S3 I can tell you guys TW has its limits and there is only so much we can do so we are all awaiting the 4.3 upgrade. We can mess around with themes and included apps, inverting things, but there are limits. It is not like TW has a nightly source code to keep building from. Just be patient and maybe play with some different themes.
Also keep in mind that the xposed framework has removed a lot of the necessity for a true custom rom as it does just about everything that previously had to be hardcoded in. Most custom roms anymore are really just themes with xposed installed by default.
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What's wrong with the s3?
I'm sure the s4 will have an unlocked bootloader soon, especially with the 3k+ bounty.
TBH, this is what always happens. it makes sense that the devs move back to the latest phone. plus the note 3 is coming out soon too, so, yeah, pretty sure what happened to the s3 will happen to the note 2.
at first I really liked TW, but then I switched to the PACman rom and I haven't looked back. the features on TW are nice, but honestly I don't use them that much. i know every user varies, but there are a lot of apps out there that replace TW functionality. I really haven't noticed since switching. I just was unhappy being on 4.1.
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The S4 wont be unlocked...however Im sure something like Kexec or Safestrap will be used to work around the Locked Bootloader. If you read into the details of Qualcomm processors and qfuses, you will quickly learn its pretty much impossible.
JB is still a very active rom, as is Nebula. One of the problems I have run into is that many of the roms are built on the international base. Cleanrom was the perfect rom for me but unfortunately Scott has moved on.
Jellybeans = very active, but I personally seem to always have little issues, I have however never seen anyone else with them.
Cleanrom = dead, but rock solid stable for me
Transnebula = Great support, and very active, however the tab UI just does not work for me... I would KILL to have these guys put together something like clean rom but with floating multiwindow. (One of the devs is also f&*(ing Batman in disguise I swear, listening to his gadget list is bloody awesome)
Lab Rats = a theme beast, but I am not really into theming, seems to me there is always something not quite right with custom themes.
There are also a few international based roms that are very active.
Edit: Oh yeah, also beware flashing Lab Rats at work unless you want your co-workers making fun of you for the boot up sound
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As a TW ROM author for the S3 I can tell you guys TW has its limits and there is only so much we can do so we are all awaiting the 4.3 upgrade. We can mess around with themes and included apps, inverting things, but there are limits. It is not like TW has a nightly source code to keep building from. Just be patient and maybe play with some different themes.
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Agreed. I actually missed my GS3 for about 2 months until the N2 ROMs started picking up. Now I'm digging PAC Man 4.3 and can't wait to see what happens with TW 4.3. Just hope the devs migrate back eventually. The N2 is a great device.
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Morkai Almandragon said:
JB is still a very active rom, as is Nebula. One of the problems I have run into is that many of the roms are built on the international base. Cleanrom was the perfect rom for me but unfortunately Scott has moved on.
Jellybeans = very active, but I personally seem to always have little issues, I have however never seen anyone else with them.
Cleanrom = dead, but rock solid stable for me
Transnebula = Great support, and very active, however the tab UI just does not work for me... I would KILL to have these guys put together something like clean rom but with floating multiwindow. (One of the devs is also f&*(ing Batman in disguise I swear, listening to his gadget list is bloody awesome)
Lab Rats = a theme beast, but I am not really into theming, seems to me there is always something not quite right with custom themes.
There are also a few international based roms that are very active.
Edit: Oh yeah, also beware flashing Lab Rats at work unless you want your co-workers making fun of you for the boot up sound
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Beans just got a Moto X so I hope he builds for the N2 still after 4.3 drops.
Haven't tried Trans yet. Not a big tablet UI fan.
Still need to try the newest Lab Rats
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Beans just got a Moto X so I hope he builds for the N2 still after 4.3 drops.
Haven't tried Trans yet. Not a big tablet UI fan.
Still need to try the newest Lab Rats
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I could not imagine going from the Note 2 to the Moto X lol
We have patches to run roms from other carriers, as well as rock solid roms that work flawlessly. X posed has opened up almost endless possibilities, and active themers(<is this even a word?) )help the look of a lot of the roms we do have. One of the best things we have is a bunch of good natured members willing to help, and learn. This goes a long way. New developers are born every day. Some will leave, some will stay. Heck Deckoz just started. Trans nebula is his first rom. This phone is a nice piece of kit, and unless I can get a xperia xl super cheap, and working flawless on Verizon, then I am staying put for awhile. You guys are stuck with me.
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I could not imagine going from the Note 2 to the Moto X lol
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Honestly it's a gorgeous device. Almost pure android on it, some nice moto features. I would get it if I didn't have a note. It's honestly still in the back of my mind to get one. It's smaller yeah but it's got a really nice feel in the hand. Very smooth running device
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Feel the same as the op but remaining hopeful and patient. Really sad to see cleanrom go and nothing really along those lines. I like beans also and not sure how much more he can do with it until there's a 4.3 to work off of. I've been messing with nova themes and other mods to keep me busy. That and just enjoying the phone with what we have.
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Nova and the host of goodies and apps has made the TW experience more enjoyable until 4.3 drops. I realize the TW devs are limited until the next update. Heck I flashed back to Beans just to mess with X Posed since I really never have in TW roms.
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SSLauncher is pretty cool as well. Looking forward to trying all kinds of possibilities.
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ExFAT and AOSP
kennyglass123 said:
As a TW ROM author for the S3 I can tell you guys TW has its limits and there is only so much we can do so we are all awaiting the 4.3 upgrade. We can mess around with themes and included apps, inverting things, but there are limits. It is not like TW has a nightly source code to keep building from. Just be patient and maybe play with some different themes.
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Kenny,
Since your are reading ( and cleaning- thanks!) a lot of posts I wonder if you have seen any ExFat support for AOSP roms.Actually I want to be able to format a 64GB sandisk and be able see all ( most) of 64G and be able to put files larger than 4G.
Any AOSP roms/kernels with such support?
Many thanks
Abe
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Kenny,
Since your are reading ( and cleaning- thanks!) a lot of posts I wonder if you have seen any ExFat support for AOSP roms.Actually I want to be able to format a 64GB sandisk and be able see all ( most) of 64G and be able to put files larger than 4G.
Any AOSP roms/kernels with such support?
Many thanks
Abe
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Looks like it is mostly CM 10.1 support but found these : http://forum.xda-developers.com/sitesearch.php?q=Exfat on cM
Updates are great, but since TW has its own limitations and we've had 4.1.2 for how long now? Tweaks can only be so tweaky! 4.3 will breathe alot of new life into our phone. I am not upgrading to the N3 lest something makes it more desirable. But seeing that we get the same update it will have, I am willing to wait a month to see what happens.