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Hi,
Could someone please enlighten me to the benefits of a Cyanogen mod over all of these custom ROMS that include a version of Sense (I think that they all do).
I'm referring to Energy, Revolution ROMS.
Would a Cyanogen mod be faster, have more battery life, and be more stable since it is an AOSP (android open source project) based and doesn't have the Sense overhead? Does it have any other secret sauce?
Or are the custom ROMS already pretty much equal to what Cyanogen puts out, with the only difference being Sense?
Thanks!
p.s. Coming from the iphone world, it is interesting that there are no custom ROMs for iOS. There does not appear to be a need since the core OS is pretty stable. While I liked that, I do miss the ability to tweak my phone at the ROM level. In all honesty though, the fact that for the vast majority of Android phones, a custom ROM is a flat out necessity in order to achieve stability and battery life, would probably not fly with most customers. But I'm willing to go through the putting a custom ROM on my phone since it's more like an adventure to me than a hassle.
ICS is ran over AOSP which is the fastest because they include NO bloatware at all.
Sense includes tons of bloatware and Sense just slows down the system.
CyanogenMod is ran over AOSP for the fastest experienced.
Please post your questions in the Q&A section mate, to keep the Development section nice and tidy.
Cheers!
In general, the Cyanogen team added many features to the Android AOSP, in many ways out 'featuring' the cell providers teams. Things like gesture lock are great add-ons that provided functionality with very little in the way of bloat. Additionally, they could tweak things in AOSP that the vendors might not want to touch for fear of breaking thousands upon thousands of users. CM is a boutique ROM.
Apple, to your point, offers no custom ROM's, and this is by design. The whole point of the Apple ecosystem ( and it's success in large part), is due to the fact that they keep it very locked down. This ensures a consistent and predictable environment in which to work, and support costs are kept to a minimum.
Some of us (myself included) don't really enjoy the Sense's of the world, and although they are not all together horrible, I just don't favor some fancy graphics over app functionality. I just generally like the simple clean interfaces. I have to hand it to the Sense team though... there are some pretty nice base apps. BUT, I prefer 3rd party tools most times, and like supporting the little developer if he keeps his project going.
Finally, the computer hacker in me just loves tweaks, optimizations, and tinkering with things. If I can overclock a chip, you can be damn sure I am going to do it!
Will it be MIUI, Cyanogenmod or something else? Share your desires and maybe devs will listen
Definately MIUI.
Using it on my EVO 3D atm, and I loooooove it!
Definitely Cognition Rom
Will be happy to see custom ROMs, but as long as they incorporate the awesome samsung features
I am only looking to put ROMs on this phone that are proven stable - and keep the features of the SGSIII intact. I don't want a phone that needs this workaround to get a feature to work.
I hope BootManager PRO works for this phone because I do like to keep several ROMs at hand at once. I really love the ICS blues and I have seen some amazing things evolve from a stock AOSP 4.0.X ROM over at the GNex forums. So we just need to wait and be amazed with the features that will be introduced to the world of Android via this phone's development section
Kernels on the other hand - this is where I am mostly concerned. We know pretty much NOTHING about the way a quad core kernel should be dealt with... These will be the main subject of my attention as we get into early development stages.
We shall see what some of our amazing developers who have proven they make kernels their bi***es can do with a new kernel. I am also interested in the kernel that Samsung has developed for it and how exactly this works in our favor here at XDA.
The main point is while most ROMs can be considered close... Kernels will be quite different and will be everyone's main focus - making our quad core beasts run with optimal battery life!
Checkrom
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I'd like to see a CM9 hybrid\tablet mode rom with per-app dpi capabilities that comes with a free high class escort.
I will use any "rooted" rom that is stable enough .... so far we don´t know is it possible to change bootloader.
Cyanogenmod of course
Probably..... stock rom, bloatware removed (will keep all the good stuff), custom kernel and custom themes
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CheckRom 100% the most popular and best ever ROM for the SGSII no other ROM comes close, i still use it and have used nothing else for a long time, SGSII ICS ROM's still nowhere near as good as CheckRom although i hear CheckRom ICS will be landing shortly for the SGSII although ill be selling my phone and getting the Galaxy S3
Slim ICS, as don't see much need for all the extra stuff apart from eye tracking to keep the screen on, S-Voice functionality goes in one ear and out the other, NFC not for me, Social tagging can leave me alone, shame the screen is sub standard to the SGS2.
Still loving my SGS 1 but am due an upgrade so may as well get this, hopefully the GPS is not as ****e as the SGS is. ended up buying an iPhone 3GS just to use with TomTom.
Now if you could give me TomTom on the SGS3 then you'd be talking.
Definitely checkrom with a new kitchen. And if we can get a siyah kernel then its over!!!!!!!!
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So I've seen this word thrown around a lot since switching to Android from my old iPhail 3G (yes, I actually lived with that horrible laggy device for ~4 years) and in comparisons between Android and iOS (which I'm not trying to get into here). I've also read lots of people saying Jelly Bean was supposed to be 'snappier' compared to ICS. I wasn't sure if they were referring to lag as in fps or a delay in reaction. My Note II is currently stock 4.1.1, but I'm definitely noticing some delay in games, such as Air Hockey, between moving my finger on the screen and the paddle moving in the game, for example. It's quite noticeable in apps like Maps too. I had the Galaxy S III for a short time before I decided I wanted the bigger (and better specs) Note II, but not long enough to make any comparisons. My question is, is there a way to increase the snappyness without doing anything too dramatic, such as flashing a different ROM, etc. Or will a ROM like beanstown106's Jelly Beans help? Or is this a problem that is inherently part of Android operating system/devices? Thanks in advance.
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will a ROM like beanstown106's Jelly Beans help? .
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I can tell you that flashing beans ROM made absolutely no speed difference whatever over my previous debloated/rooted stock ROM (and I didn't really expect it to)
One thing is, it is noticeably laggy when running the inferno galaxy live wallpaper, but pretty much instant response with regular WP.
The "snappieness" in individual apps is really down to the app itself combined with phone specs.
Poorly coded apps may have lag.
High end apps may push the hardware harder and cause lag.
I would bet its mostly the former when it comes to the Note 2.
Samsung also put touchwiz on these phones, which does affect overall performance to some degree. If we get the ability to remove much of it in favor of AOSP versions, then it should perform a little better overall.
The differences between iPhones and Android... is that Apple focuses on user interaction over all other things. So this means they will sacrifice performance in other areas to ensure that user interactions are kept smooth, or at least keep the appearance of smoothness. For example, iOS will stop loading web pages when you start to scroll the screen, so the CPU can focus on smooth scrolling. This means that the page will never finish loading if you keep scrolling around on the screen. Android does not do this or these kind of things. The new "project butter" implemented in JB is designed to help smooth out the interface and user interactions, without sacrificing performance in other areas. Its not perfect though, and it requires good specs and more power than the iOS way of "one thing at a time".
Great response ty very much. I guess next question is will we be able to get those AOSP versions later on or are we SOL in that department?
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Depends on which version you have.
I am on Verizon, so my device is locked down, other versions are not.
This device is also unique in the fact it has a Wacom stylus and functionality, so that must be considered.
Often times, you can swap things out without too much issue. AOSP lockscreen instead of touchwiz lockscreen... AOSP launcher instead of touchwiz launcher... without too much trouble. Problem is, underneath the ROM is still touchwiz... or at least that is how it worked on HTC Sense phones. (this is my first touchwiz device) HTC do a lot of work to the underlying framework which meant wholesale replacement of everything wasn't possible, so it depends on how much Samsung changed Android to put touchwiz on it.
Basically they "DE-Touchwiz" the phone and do some background tweaks for added performance, plus they "de-bloat the ROM. (they remove all the unnecessary crap that the carriers and Samsung put in, that served them some benefit, but not benefit the users) The advantage of this method is that you can keep much of the functionality of the stylus.
Another method is to use a ROM based on stock, but tweaked and de-bloated. This usually retains all the functionality of the device as it came out of the box... but the performance is usually only a little better than stock, and less than one where the AOSP stuff has been put in. This method does allow you to keep most of the stylus functionality.
As far as straight up custom ROMs based on AOSP...
They usually offer the best performance for a given device, having no extra crap, and being tweaked for performance... But you will lose most if not all the stylus functionality. Some ROMs may have limited stylus functionality, but they have to put that in themselves, meaning more work on their part.
As far as performance gains... I can only speak of HTC Sense devices with sureness. Where pure AOSP usually had significant improvements to performance/battery life. (mostly due to how extensive Sense is, touchwiz may be better in this regaurd) "De-sensed" ROMs where they removed all of the Sense stuff they could and replaced with AOSP equivalents, had good performance increases. "De-bloated" and tweaked but otherwise stock ROMs had some improvement.
But as was said, the stylus functionality is something that must be considered when looking at ROMs
After using AOSP ROMs quite extensively in both of my two Galaxy 3s, I have no desire whatever to run those type ROMs in my Note 2 (and lose things like pen functionality).
I could never see any performance difference whatever (except maybe in useless benchmarks) between a completely debloated TW ROM with all the features working perfectly and a buggy AOSP ROM in my G3s (and I tried every G3 ROM available at least twice).
Posters where constantly claiming this ROM is PERFECT when discussing any AOSP ROM but two posts later someone else would post "can anybody get NFL Mobile to work??" The next post would say "that has never worked in AOSP but I never use it anyway so who cares........"
Good call. I'd rather keep most functionality
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You could go into a store and try some of those games out on a DNA. Hopefully some are free so you don't have to put your google account in the play store and then clear the data. The DNA's gpu is much faster. It sounds like it's the app coding though. I don't have any input lag with on screen buttons playing GTA or N64oid, and emulators are pretty heavy on the processor.
Hello all, I have a Samsung Korea shw-m250L cdma version and I only use it for multimedia purposes (think ipod touch) sine I cannot use the phone functions of it in my country. I want to know the best rom for me that would maximize the multimedia performance of my device. No bloatwares, no funky custom animations or themes, and no need for gps. Only for music, movies, games and wifi. Battery life is not a concern as long as it is fast. Need help asap. Thanks!
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any rom will do, just choose the one you like the most and install your favourite multimedia app.
Personally i like the rom with the google look with poweramp for the music/video
Since you have a Korean model of the SGS II this thread might give you some help on getting started with custom roms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1097347
personally any new Jelly Bean custom Rom based on Samsung stock firmware will be perfect as most of the media capabilities are built in with everything you need.
JB Roms are very fast and smooth so win win! try looking at the latest NeatRom Lite!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1569686
Good luck!
Is the phone nicked.How can you not use the functions in your country.
Best Rom threads are not allowed as there is no such thing. What's the best rom for me sucks for the next person. It's all subjective
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Just a question. I've been using my RN4 for cca. 2 months now and I am really impressed with the device.
My question is; Why would you flash an AOSP/CM/whatever ROM, if MIUI works without problems and the device's speed is really great too?
My last device was LG G2, and there was a big difference in terms of speed between Stock LG ROM (all the stupid apps) and CM, but here, I dont know if you would get that much on speed.
Also, that "free" MIUI cloud backup is great, camera with those effects is cool too. I've not encountered a single problem with my stock/not rooted RN4 (Snapdragon).
There are other cool MIUI features, which are not in other AOSP/CM ROMs included. (maybe in RessurectionRemix but still)
What are your thoughts about this one?
Is there a big difference in speed, camera, battery between stock/not rooted and rooted CM/AOSP ROM?
for me its how they handle notification and multitasking. Too agressive with killing apps. No one finger expand. Outdated emoji support. If they fix all that i'd gladly switch back to MIUI
Imho the UI sucks.
Because MIUI just ****s up the material design, doesn't regard the default notification in AOSP, have aggressive memory management and **** cheetah apps disguised as normal system apps.
If I have to give two reasons for using custom ROM:
1. Overall look and feel of material design
2. Notification handling in AOSP Nougat, it is the most
beautiful thing ever happened to Android.
In the end its users choice whether to stick to stock ROM or flash custom ROM depending on their experience.
Oh XDA censors curse words!!
Cuz their ui is cancerous xD
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Cuz there ui is cancerous xD
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are aops roms stable anyway?
I use Resurrection ROM 5.8.3 and it is rock-stable. But RR is Lineage-OS-based, not AOSP.
My reason to use a Custom-ROM: with MIUI I can't use my Samsung Gear Fit 2. The Gear-App doesn't start in all MIUI-based ROMs. With AOSP/LineageOS-ROMs no problems.
Miui has lots of bugs that take forever to be fixed.
I think Miui is a way of Xiaomi to spy on users....
MIUI have a lot of spyware in their bloatware apps. Which I don't like.
MIUI is like pre-GraceUX Touchwiz.
Lots of interesting features but not polished, and there's no consistency across the whole UI.
For the free cloud backup, Google's Drive and Photos are better in my opinion, you can sync your contacts and messages as well.
As for the camera, I'm happy with the Camera2API on AOSP ROMs.
Because if you also have an iPhone you don't need MIUI ?
Kidding aside, there's a lot of reasons why AOSP is better than MIUI and there's a lot of reasons why MIUI is better than AOSP.
I personally prefer AOSP (Slim 7 specifically) because of it's speed and general lack of complications.
I don't like being asked by the SMS app if I'd like to send my SMSs to the Xiaomi servers, or my pictures, or every time I'd use some app that used the internet to be forced to accept some privacy policy.
I want Android, clean, no bull$$1t. That's where Slim won my heart. I tried other AOSP ROMs as well but I got disappointed with the lack of responsiveness caused by features that should make your life easier but the phone slower. Also all ROMs using the substratum theme engine have an easily perceived delay in operation.
If you'd like to stick with MIUI, then go for the nougat development version. The increase in responsiveness is considerable compared to the stable version based on marshmallow.
Nonetheless, if you want the same security as on an iPhone or more expensive Android phones, do not unlock your bootloader at all. The simple fact that your bootloader is locked will render your device useless to a thief. Although he may not know that before he steals it...