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It's weird how the S4 has a stronger processor but is having lag and screen tear issues.
I had to remove my screen protector. This matters.
After that the phone is butter. All the time. I mean I cannot get this bad boy to lag.
I was in the fence being a Samsung owner for years. Most recently the note2.
I am pleased with my choice. Also I have seen 3 s4's already. I have yet to see another person with my phone in Lakewood CO. Sure it's out there. But it's not everywhere you look. I like that.
Anyone got both? What's up with the S4 lag?
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The S4 lag is due to touchwiz and all of the whiz bang stuff going on with it's sensors. Samsung really knows how to muck up a good thing. You don't have to look farther than their own keynotes to see that. Seems like HTC focused on the user experience while Samsung was busy trying to include the kitchen sink.
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I don't own a One but do have an S4 (which I will probably be returning) and I've found the phone to be laggy at times both with Samsung apps as well as with 3rd party apps. That said, it seems every phone has its own set of issues and occasional lag seems to be one that S4 owners are experiencing. Maybe a software update will smooth things out?
Idk. But I just don't expect to see lag at this point in the age of android. Not bashing the S4. Samsung has not done me wrong.
I just didn't realize what I was missing. Butter.
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Samsung most likely just needs to optimize their software. Remember how laggy the S3 was at launch? Samsung rushed the release, packed it with the latest hardware possible (even the Snapdragon 600 is a revised chip that nobody had seen before) and shoved it out the door.
I'm on the fence with the two right now. And the One would be all over Denver, Lakewood, and Aurora if stores actually had them to sell. Based on visual aesthetics, most average consumers will go right for the One unless they want the large gorgeous screen on the S4. You just can't compare the two on that front.
Considering how much I use SD cards, its a really hard pill to swallow having roughly 27GB on my phone and no option to expand.
Both of them have build quality issues right now and my S3 serves me just fine but when I make up my mind, I've got the down payment saved for either and two MAXXs and my S3 I can sell.
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I work for a tmo store in Lakewood. You Dont see many people with one because none of our stores have them. Give it a few weeks and you will see them pop up. I know I have mine on order and it will be here in 5 daya
My GS3 lagged the entire time I had it. It was only really smooth with Cyanogenmod running. It did become a little smoother when touchwiz went from ICS to JB but it was never close to aosp. I had to stop using the stock TW launcher as it hurt my head to see lag just by flipping homescreens. I really liked my GS3 but Samsung has a lot of work to do for the S5. Hopefully the beauty of the One and Sense5 light a fire under their butts.
Yo Lakewood, the store in rosemead has them.
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I work for a tmo store in Lakewood. You Dont see many people with one because none of our stores have them. Give it a few weeks and you will see them pop up. I know I have mine on order and it will be here in 5 daya
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I got my one on wads. In Lakewood. The guy was like I don't see the need to rush and buy it. We had no lines for iPhone. Lol. Now it can't be found easily.
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I hope HTC is able to keep up with the demand of this phone, its a great one and I want to see it succeed.
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I got my one on wads. In Lakewood. The guy was like I don't see the need to rush and buy it. We had no lines for iPhone. Lol. Now it can't be found easily.
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That's where I got my One. The hoopla seemed like no big deal to the employees. Must have had good stock!
Can't all the S4 Touchwiz stuff be disabled? I am happy with my Nexus 4 but I'm also a phone junkie and want to get a new one. I keep finding downsides to the One, and to the S4, but the biggest gripe I have with the One is it launched with 4.1.2, and if I remember correctly, Samsung is much better with updates than HTC.
Does the S4 require Kies for upgrading or can these now finally do OTA?
I had an Evo when it first came out and loved it, I have never owned a Samsung smartphone and I like Sense a little more than Touchwiz, but I hate not having an expansion card (and this is my biggest gripe on the Nexus 4. 16 GB are not enough for backups, ROMs and pictures, and I stream all my music).
I wish we got the Chinese HTC One here, or that AT&T didn't have an exclusivity on the 64 GB (I really dislike AT&T exclusivities)
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Can't all the S4 Touchwiz stuff be disabled? I am happy with my Nexus 4 but I'm also a phone junkie and want to get a new one. I keep finding downsides to the One, and to the S4, but the biggest gripe I have with the One is it launched with 4.1.2, and if I remember correctly, Samsung is much better with updates than HTC.
Does the S4 require Kies for upgrading or can these now finally do OTA?
I had an Evo when it first came out and loved it, I have never owned a Samsung smartphone and I like Sense a little more than Touchwiz, but I hate not having an expansion card (and this is my biggest gripe on the Nexus 4. 16 GB are not enough for backups, ROMs and pictures, and I stream all my music).
I wish we got the Chinese HTC One here, or that AT&T didn't have an exclusivity on the 64 GB (I really dislike AT&T exclusivities)
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Touchwiz is a shell. You should be able to install Apex or one of the other launchers on the play store. Hit the home key and it will ask you which launcher to use.
I have a galaxy note 2 and it's butter smooth for me. Are you sure it's laggy? what exactly are you doing?
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I have a galaxy note 2 and it's butter smooth for me. Are you sure it's laggy? what exactly are you doing?
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I came from the note 2 and my wife still has hers. Compared to the one the note 2 is not butter. In fact it feels like an s3. Even the S4 eithsmall lag is better.
I'm just being very honest. Bad ass phone. But it is not butter.
When I say butter I mean iPhone smooth. In everything it does. Only the ONE has ever given me this level of smooth. Butter.
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I came from the note 2 and my wife still has hers. Compared to the one the note 2 is not butter. In fact it feels like an s3. Even the S4 eithsmall lag is better.
I'm just being very honest. Bad ass phone. But it is not butter.
When I say butter I mean iPhone smooth. In everything it does. Only the ONE has ever given me this level of smooth. Butter.
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that doesn't answer my question. What exactly are you doing that's consider "laggy".
The reason i ask is because I have the note 2 right in front of me, and everything is butter smooth from flipping the page to opening apps.
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What totally scared me away from the One was it's camera. I understand, screw the megapixel war and whatever, but the camera isn't that great in most scenarios and yeah, it's pretty ok in dark situations which are 20% of the time I take pictures. I've seen full resolution pictures of the S4 and they're pretty crisp even at it's 60-70% meaining 8 effective Megapixels since most pics are crap at it's 100%.
I think HTC can't afford to shoot itself in the foot with Interesting camera experiments.
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You don't know what your talking about. The one has the best camera I have ever used on a phone. Better than the note 2 I have.
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What totally scared me away from the One was it's camera. I understand, screw the megapixel war and whatever, but the camera isn't that great in most scenarios and yeah, it's pretty ok in dark situations which are 20% of the time I take pictures. I've seen full resolution pictures of the S4 and they're pretty crisp even at it's 60-70% meaining 8 effective Megapixels since most pics are crap at it's 100%.
I think HTC can't afford to shoot itself in the foot with Interesting camera experiments.
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I was afraid too until I asked myself when the last time was that I printed out a picture I took with my phone. 4MP is good enough for 95% of the planets population since most of these throw away pictures just end up on a social network somewhere. The other 5% of people have real cameras. When you look at it like that, the ability to shoot in low light is the icing on the cake. Not only do I have a camera that can still print nice 5x7 pictures (if you're into that), but I can also take pictures in low light without a flash. Lets face it, using the flash really kills a lot of these pictures.
The camera on my GS3 was nicer than my Sensation, and they both used an 8MP sensor. The both look ugly when viewed at 100%. My GS3 camera wasn't all that better than the camera on my GS1, and the both stunk in darker locations. Sure the pictures were bigger but it's not like I needed that. Pictures on both still looked pretty great on any monitor, plus they all shrunk down to size on FB anyway. This 4MP camera captures pictures close in size to my GS1, with the added bonus of hardware image stabilization, an F2.0 lens, and larger pixels. For everything else, I use my real camera.
I've been pleased with the way my pictures have been coming out. Low light doesn't mean shooting in the dark, it means taking a picture when you're not in the sun. It means it will take better pictures of the family when everyone is gathered in the living room.
Like the ability to zoom into your pictures, but feel limited with only 4MP? Easy fix. Stand closer to the thing you're taking a picture of.
Either way you can't go wrong. In this case I chose the feature that I thought would benefit me more.
A good picture is the picture you didn't miss.
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that doesn't answer my question. What exactly are you doing that's consider "laggy".
The reason i ask is because I have the note 2 right in front of me, and everything is butter smooth from flipping the page to opening apps.
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That's a loaded question.
I always noticed lag on the launcher, so I always went running back to Nova. Things on my GS3 were smooth until they weren't. Like there was always something out of nowhere when navigating through menus or contacts. Once I was inside a program things always ran pretty darn smooth although the GS3 was begining to feel l little long in the tooth when you were using the browser. My BB Z10 used the same CPU and that thing scrolled like butter.
The One fees iphone smooth. No joke. I know HTC licensed something from Apple around 6 months ago, and part of me wonders if it had something to do with the fluidity of everything. The browser feels silky smooth, contacts, menus, homescreen, app switching. The thing just flies ever so gracefully.
I haven't had my hands on the S4, but from watching a lot of the videos it looked like it was janky in some of the areas where my S3 was. A phone shouldn't be sluggish while it's sitting at it's home screen. Sammy can fix their issues with software updates, but HTC seemed to have nailed it right out of the box.
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So I'm curious. What about your Note 2 keeps your interest in it?
Size, software, hardware (including S-pen), choice of ROMs, etc..
For me its size. I love the size of the phone and the display alone enough for me to love it without considering anything else. But, I will of course.
This is strictly for curiosity and conversation. That's it.
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I'd have to say it's also the size. I see every other phone my friends and family use and it always makes me laugh and til this day everyone always compliments it or always say something funny about its size.
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Same sentiments here. The size kept me coming back, and now I don't even look at other phones....I used to switch every week or two.
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Size and completeness, how everything works well
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It's how awesome porn looks on the screen.
The fact that my contract isn't up with Verizon and I don't have enough money to buy a new phone outright.
Honestly, I'm done with giant phones these days. The moto x will be my next phone when I more to t-mobile.
For me it's the size of the screen, the crisp display, and the performance.
I use my Note 2 more than I use my laptop.
Some friends and family members make fun of its size, but when I'm with them and they want to do something on the internet, they start on their phone then say "let me see your phone".
I don't understand how they can say they love the size of their phone then want to see mine to view the internet.
For the same reason my wife stays with me...
Seriously tho, this device has a great screen, battery life, and performance...Sure the S4 has better hardware specs, but at this point in time better hardware offers diminishing returns at best. The Note 3 will have to be a major imorovement before I consider upgrading or else I may hold off until the Note 4...thats right I said it.
The size is definitely the main attraction, but I also love the S-Pen and the battery life. I switched from the S3 to the Note 2, and now whenever I try to use the S3, it feels so damn tiny in comparison.
For me, it's because most of my friends with S3/S4's don't even know about the Note 2, so when they ask me what kind of phone I have I say the S4. Then I act really surprised when my phone is bigger than theirs and I tell them they must have gotten the mini.
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For me, it's because most of my friends with S3/S4's don't even know about the Note 2, so when they ask me what kind of phone I have I say the S4. Then I act really surprised when my phone is bigger than theirs and I tell them they must have gotten the mini.
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LOL that's awesome. I got mine the day it was released and people now are asking me if it's the S4. I may use your quip.
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LOL that's awesome. I got mine the day it was released and people now are asking me if it's the S4. I may use your quip.
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Haha they get angry too, a lot of S4 people are iPhone switchers that know nothing about Android, they really believe you.
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For me, it's because most of my friends with S3/S4's don't even know about the Note 2, so when they ask me what kind of phone I have I say the S4. Then I act really surprised when my phone is bigger than theirs and I tell them they must have gotten the mini.
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ROFL....too funny!!
For me it's the screen size and the boat load of ROM choices to give me a different phone weekly, or daily if I choose.
I like the size but I wish it was the size of the note. I think I like it because its got the most functionality of any phone I've ever seen.
There's nothing you can't do with this thing.
I like to keep a smart dock plugged into my entertainment center. Then setting across the room I'll control it with my ps3 controller.
calling this a phone is kinda like calling your home computer an email checker. literally these are little computers that also text and make phone calls. I have hade a few phones I've been missing with phones since the first razor cam out. I've just never seen anything this versatile before.
Size & quality of the display is nice for my aging eyes and fat fingers.
Battery capacity...all day easily.
Ability to take an SD card for additional memory.
Android customizability (sp?)
All these make this phone more attractive to me than most of the current crop of similar size.
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Haha they get angry too, a lot of S4 people are iPhone switchers that know nothing about Android, they really believe you.
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Most likely people who shouldn't have an S4 in the first place then.
I have an S4, and my mom has the Note 2, but i frequently do 1 handed typing, and on the note its just a litle bit big for 1 hand to accurately type. I know the Note has the 1 handed option, but i'm not a big fan of that layout, and the 5 inch display on the S4 is perfect for me. I also like the colours and crispness more than on the note 2, and obviously the stronger hardware. I find even when i was doing work on my moms phone, i never really found any practical uses for the S-Pen that i would even consider it useful for me. It's all just personal preference though, but i laugh that i used to think the iPhone 4 was the perfect phone back in the day.
Its a very nice device though, and its nice to have the slightly larger screen for videos and games, but for me 5 inches is the sweet spot for the ultimate balance between functionality and ease of use.
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Most likely people who shouldn't have an S4 in the first place then.
I have an S4, and my mom has the Note 2, but i frequently do 1 handed typing, and on the note its just a litle bit big for 1 hand to accurately type. I know the Note has the 1 handed option, but i'm not a big fan of that layout, and the 5 inch display on the S4 is perfect for me. I also like the colours and crispness more than on the note 2, and obviously the stronger hardware. I find even when i was doing work on my moms phone, i never really found any practical uses for the S-Pen that i would even consider it useful for me. It's all just personal preference though, but i laugh that i used to think the iPhone 4 was the perfect phone back in the day.
Its a very nice device though, and its nice to have the slightly larger screen for videos and games, but for me 5 inches is the sweet spot for the ultimate balance between functionality and ease of use.
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I think the S4 is definitely the best size, but first thing I look at when getting a phone is the development for it, because we passed the point where hardware can make a difference in the performance of this relatively light OS (Android compared to Windows or Mac), so really the most powerful phone is now the one with the most capable software available for it. I wish my phone was the S4 size, but I don't think I can even use a ROM that doesn't haven't floating multiwindows at this point. I run every app in a window now.
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I think the S4 is definitely the best size, but first thing I look at when getting a phone is the development for it, because we passed the point where hardware can make a difference in the performance of this relatively light OS (Android compared to Windows or Mac), so really the most powerful phone is now the one with the most capable software available for it. I wish my phone was the S4 size, but I don't think I can even use a ROM that doesn't haven't floating multiwindows at this point. I run every app in a window now.
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I'm pretty sure the floating multiwindow features will eventually come to the S4, that is Multitasking to the max, but there are still some alternatives and you can get a close to similar experience on the S4. And things like Nottach etc, bring the other functionalities such as the horizontal split messenger/contacts and all the other goodies that stock S4 users miss out on.
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I'm pretty sure the floating multiwindow features will eventually come to the S4, that is Multitasking to the max, but there are still some alternatives and you can get a close to similar experience on the S4. And things like Nottach etc, bring the other functionalities such as the horizontal split messenger/contacts and all the other goodies that stock S4 users miss out on.
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in sure it will eventually too assuming that borrower in unlocked, there's very little development for the vzw s4 because of it unfortunately.
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It's how awesome porn looks on the screen.
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was just drinking water when i read this.. laugh so hard water came out my mouth.. thanks needed to laugh:good:
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For the same reason my wife stays with me...
Seriously tho, this device has a great screen, battery life, and performance...Sure the S4 has better hardware specs, but at this point in time better hardware offers diminishing returns at best. The Note 3 will have to be a major imorovement before I consider upgrading or else I may hold off until the Note 4...thats right I said it.
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^^^^^^^+100000000000000 to exactly everything stated HERE ^^^^
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For me, it's because most of my friends with S3/S4's don't even know about the Note 2, so when they ask me what kind of phone I have I say the S4. Then I act really surprised when my phone is bigger than theirs and I tell them they must have gotten the mini.
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gonna have copy you on this one.. have many friends that have finally switched from an iphone and they have S3 or S4
My wife has the S4 and it does have alot of features and extra sensors etc... that are cool
but with my note 2 i dont need a charger at work or in the car anymore. I Sometimes i have to charge it when i go to sleep or every other day depending on how heavy i use it..
S4 pockets alot nicer but I dont wear girl jeans "cough" skinny jeans so the note 2 fits perfectly..
I dont use the pen as heavily as i thought i was going to but the times i have needed it, it has save me a headache and time which saves me money ..
playing games on it watching videos is alot better and easier on the eyes
Also im not worried about if i have to many things open at the same time it will slow down the phone..
Mult window is a big HELP as well.
Simple question really. I was torn between the note 3 and the one max. I am still debating whether to switch from the max to the note.
I picked the Max because:
1. I am tired of touchwiz
2. I like the extra size, screen, speakers, and build quality.
3. I like HTC
4. I had the note2 and never used the stylus and found most of the added features gimmicks. I never used multi window features. I had it for the screen size.
Why am I questioning the purchase of the Max?
1. Why pay the same price for the Max when I could get the note3 and get all the added features, even if I don't use them, I would at least have the option. ( This really is the biggest reason. I never used the stylus on the note2, but all the new options make me wonder if I would find it more useful.)
2. Camera
3. The reviews online...and I have literally read and watched countless reviews before making the decision.
I don't know if HTC had plans to make added features for future updates, but off this phone becomes a bust, I am worried there won't be much,if any support for it
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I agree with all your positive points above. I would also add that I prefer LCD screens to amoled any day of the week. Amoled is too vivid for me. I prefer sharpness and true color. Also IMO the camera is not a negative. It may not have all the megapixels of others and unfortunately no optical image stabilization but for use indoors it is great. I can actually take a picture using the regular settings and not have the pictures come out dark. That is a benefit of the ultrapixel.
In a nutshell all the reviews have to say is how the Max uses the One chipset. They think just because it's not the newest it's not worthwhile. What's strange is these same people didn't blast the Moto X for coming out with such a crappy old chipset...
I will close out with saying now that I have used the stereo forward facing speakers of the Max I cannot stand using a single rear facing speaker phone. Why use android which is built for media consumption (all are 16:9 screens vice 4:3) if you can't hear what you are watching?!?
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I agree with all your positive points above. I would also add that I prefer LCD screens to amoled any day of the week. Amoled is too vivid for me. I prefer sharpness and true color. Also IMO the camera is not a negative. It may not have all the megapixels of others and unfortunately no optical image stabilization but for use indoors it is great. I can actually take a picture using the regular settings and not have the pictures come out dark. That is a benefit of the ultrapixel.
In a nutshell all the reviews have to say is how the Max uses the One chipset. They think just because it's not the newest it's not worthwhile. What's strange is these same people didn't blast the Moto X for coming out with such a crappy old chipset...
I will close out with saying now that I have used the stereo forward facing speakers of the Max I cannot stand using a single rear facing speaker phone. Why use android which is built for media consumption (all are 16:9 screens vice 4:3) if you can't hear what you are watching?!?
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I also Agree with both of you. I choose the Max and specifically waited for it due to the screen size, the Speed(I am not worried about it not being a Snapdragon 800), the Designed and Front Speakers. Having a Fingerprint reader, NFC are great but the MicroSD card in combination of everything else made it my next device. I got it on Verizon EDGE so if something comes along in the next 6 months I have to have I can upgrade again.
Win Win.
I forgot about the sd card. Nice call. It's awesome having that extra space. And HTC did it perfectly by having a back cover that you can remove to get to the card and NOT have to hold the battery in while you do it. (I'm looking at you samsung!)
Since you asked ill be realy honest Ive had almost every phone you can think of and haven't had an HTC phone as my oficial driver since the evo 3d (had the HTC one I'll get in to details in a moment)and since the 3d I hated htc the one sucked completely don't now why they made it so bad had 3 in a month camera broke out of magic,but the one max is the solution. The note 2 was the best thing that have ever happened until now yes the HTC one max as of now is my favorite,now that I have soff it's designe,solid,battery life, screen, sound and camera(not the best but not as horrible as others say) the finger scanner works perfectly (don't now why people just don't know how to use it) I love this phone it haves everything I've always wanted
Ive been battling between these two phones and I hate to say it - but I'm almost positive I'm going with the Note 3.
I've been an HTC fan having owned the original evo for two years and now the ElteVO since launch day.
I was leaning toward the Max as I have been happy with HTC and I thought I preferred LCD to amoled, but I recently got to play with both phones at a sprint store and I was disappointed with the brightness on the Max. Plus I found it kind of boring after owning nothing but HTC for 4 years.
I'm also very disappointed with the support and development for the Max. I love rooting and trying different roms. The evo ElteVO support wasn't even strong enough to satisfy my flashing disease and that phone had alot stronger following than the Max appears to.
My biggest fears going with the note 3 are screen burn as I run full brightness and use my phone alot for work and also the GPS as in the past Samsung GPS haven't been known to be as strong as HTC.
Jack
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Overall, I'm pretty happy with the decision to get this phone. I really wanted the HTC One, just bigger. This phone was just what I was looking for.
The feeling that I should have gotten something with all the features still bugs me, but I am pretty sure that I will be keeping the phone.
I am actually happy with the camera, but still worried there won't be many updates for this phone from HTC if it doesn't end up selling well
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Overall, I'm pretty happy with the decision to get this phone. I really wanted the HTC One, just bigger. This phone was just what I was looking for.
The feeling that I should have gotten something with all the features still bugs me, but I am pretty sure that I will be keeping the phone.
I am actually happy with the camera, but still worried there won't be many updates for this phone from HTC if it doesn't end up selling well
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Updates are coming even sense 6
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Has anyone ever returned a phone? I want to keep the Max, but I just saw Verizon dropped the price to 199.99. I am within my 14 days and wasn't sure if they will reimburse me so I can keep it, or how that works
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Great phone the note 3 is a good phone by all means but who the hell is going to use all those gestures and features BoomSound big screen and expanded memory pull me all the way in. As stated above fingerprint works perfectly just have to know how u use it right great battery life build quality amazing HTC one max is killing the note in my eyes
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Has anyone ever returned a phone? I want to keep the Max, but I just saw Verizon dropped the price to 199.99. I am within my 14 days and wasn't sure if they will reimburse me so I can keep it, or how that works
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They will reimburse you the difference. Make sure u go back and get your $100 back.
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I used to have a few htc phones, but the evo 3d was the last one for me.
I have had 4 Samsung phones in a row, and initially I thought they were the only way to go, but, the plastic builds, the advent of Knox Security, and the fact I never used my S-pen, it was time for a change..
This phone is fantastic for what I do with it; sound blows away any other phone, screen is as clear and crisp as anything every made, and I like the aluminum housing too!
Oh, 32 gigs INTERNAL storage, when coupled with a 64 gig card is great too! Its nice to web surf and not have to stretch everything so you can see it!
No idea why so many reviewers panned this phone; fingerprint scanner works perfectly, and who care about a snapdragon 800.
There is no lag or slow down on this phone, so hopefully more folks will ignore what the stupid reviewers say, because once you try this phone, you will buy it.
I want to say that I agree with all of the positives posted here. I almost bought the note as this was not out the night i was researching and Verizon did not really tell anyone when it was coming. The next day when clicking upgrade it was there in my face. I read reviews and everyone was bashing it because the size was bigger but nothing else really changed. Then the complained about them getting rid of the unibody but then praised it for adding the sd card slot. Thats when I lost all faith in phone reviewers. They must all be secret iDevice lovers. I want to say I love this phone over my S4. It is a bit heavy when talking on it but I really do not use the phone feature much.
get yourself a decent BT headset, and you can leave the phone in your pocket!
plus, if you get the right headset. you can just push the talk button on your headset, and google will come up and ask you who you want to call, and its been 100% accurate for me so far.
Time will tell man. I have note 3 & just got a HTC one max ordered today. Will get next week. Can't wait to try it out
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you'll love it, unless you are really attached to the spen on the note...
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you'll love it, unless you are really attached to the spen on the note...
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I mean I dont use everyday. its nice to have occasionally but i think i can live without and i love sense and i love my htc one just wish it was bigger! and i get an sdcard so im happy about that even if it doesnt have the snapdragon 800 at least i have a fingerprint scanner hahaha
you wont notice any lag what so ever, it would have been nice to have the 800, but all that matters is actual performance, NOT specs..
plus, you can take notes with the scribble app, so if you want to, you still can
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you wont notice any lag what so ever, it would have been nice to have the 800, but all that matters is actual performance, NOT specs..
plus, you can take notes with the scribble app, so if you want to, you still can
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Yeah no pen though built in which is really nice and yeah I had zero lag on my HTC one and if the one max performs that well with a bigger screen and sdcard I'll be one happy camper!
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I bought 2 ones for my wife and son, and they both came from note 2's and love the htc one..neither of them used the pen much either, and they both say the one seems even faster than the note 2.
Yeah, the max is just a gigantic one, with larger screen, larger speakers, larger everything! Of course the reviewers don't like that; they think it needs some special phablet features, and that no one will just want a gigantic htc one.
I for one wanted a bigger htc one specifically, so for me, its been fantastic!
hit up Amazon for cases and SP's; Sprint wants an arm and a leg for that stuff, and for what I would have paid for one case at sprint, I got 3 cases, and 8 screen protectors!
Amazon has quite a bit of stuff for the Max already; I am still trying to find a desktop dock for it, and then I will be a happy camper!
Hi all!
I have a Note 2 with ATT and will be moving to Tmobile soon and have been thinking about the Note 3 even though Samsung let me down with the lame .18" increase in size after the rumors of a 6" screen.
Now, my concerns about the Sony are...non replaceable batteries. I always have like 3 batteries extra for my phones. No real Spen like apps unless you guys have some already that are similar to the Spen stuff.
Also, I assume there is some multi window feature like on the Note, right?
Of course what I like about the Sony is the huge screen. I know is not the same type as the Note but I think it looks great on its own way so no big deal. I used to tame down the colors on my note 2 anyway.
It has 1GB less RAM but from what I have seen, it does not affect it that much in real life.
I would love to have some OCing kernel as I have always been a tweaker but I will check that later.
I saw Amazon selling them for $450 which is cheaper and even a used Note 3.
Anything I should be concerned about?
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Hi all!
I have a Note 2 with ATT and will be moving to Tmobile soon and have been thinking about the Note 3 even though Samsung let me down with the lame .18" increase in size after the rumors of a 6" screen.
Now, my concerns about the Sony are...non replaceable batteries. I always have like 3 batteries extra for my phones. No real Spen like apps unless you guys have some already that are similar to the Spen stuff.
Also, I assume there is some multi window feature like on the Note, right?
Of course what I like about the Sony is the huge screen. I know is not the same type as the Note but I think it looks great on its own way so no big deal. I used to tame down the colors on my note 2 anyway.
It has 1GB less RAM but from what I have seen, it does not affect it that much in real life.
I would love to have some OCing kernel as I have always been a tweaker but I will check that later.
I saw Amazon selling them for $450 which is cheaper and even a used Note 3.
Anything I should be concerned about?
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I came from the Note, and then S4.
When using my note i did use the sPen sometimes. (not very often)
Mostly for accurate points in sketching. But realistically not very often. The pencil feels better and is more accurate. Just make sure you have a screen protector. As it will scratch the glass.... (and stock Sony protector)
I never used additional batteries, so can't comment in that respect.
I find that the Ultra lasts as long as my S4 did. Considering the massive screen that's pretty good.
With 2Gb of RAM i find that great. I'm a heavy multitasker and have never experienced lag or slow down.
There is currently an overclocked kernel for CM. And works great with Carbon ROM. by krabapple.
There will not be as many ROM's for the Ultra than for the Note 3. Thats just due to marketing and sammy sheep.
I've loved my change from Samsung, and unless sammy do something amazing like the Ultra, I can't see me going back.
Well I dont really mind much about having too many Roms, I usually stick to one or two anyway, specially with Note, I dont use anything but sammy ROMS to keep all the featuers intact.
thanks!
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I came from the Note, and then S4.
I never used additional batteries, so can't comment in that respect.
I find that the Ultra lasts as long as my S4 did. Considering the massive screen that's pretty good.
With 2Gb of RAM i find that great. I'm a heavy multitasker and have never experienced lag or slow down.
There is currently an overclocked kernel for CM. And works great with Carbon ROM. by krabapple.
There will not be as many ROM's for the Ultra than for the Note 3. Thats just due to marketing and sammy sheep.
I've loved my change from Samsung, and unless sammy do something amazing like the Ultra, I can't see me going back.
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I had a note 3 for a week, not to long but to me it was enough to sell it.
The screen of the z ultra is eons better, its not pentile (every review said it was a non-issue, but to me it was noticeable), the colors are equaly saturated, but better, specialy whites, in the note 3 they where greenish and depresing. And the size is perfect for gaming, reading and sketching, i cannot put it in any pocket, but the same was true with the note..
The non repleaceable battery its an issue, the first day of use was better in this one, but nothing compares to having a spare battery for long journeys.
Taking notes on the z ultra was better than i expected, its not a replacement for a true wacom pen, but it gets the job done... I recomend papyrus, it has an unlimited canvas and it recognices the finger as a secondary input when using a pen, so you can write with a pen and pan with the finger, pretty usefull.
ZU stock rom doesnt have multiwindows, a shame really, but you can always try omnirom, its not as polished, but i feel like it will be better with time. If you want to let it stock it has the advantage of showing a lot of apps in tablet mode, or semi-tablet mode, the note 3 behaves like the note 2 in that regard.
For now the z ultra feels much snappier, if i where you i will not worry to much about that gigabyte extra,
Maybe my note unit was faulty, but i didn't have any warranty, and i tough it will be better to try the zu before buying another note, and im very happy with my desicion at the moment.
PD: Sorry about my english, if you have any question feel free to ask me, im on vacations
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I had a note 3 for a week, not to long but to me it was enough to sell it.
The screen of the z ultra is eons better, its not pentile (every review said it was a non-issue, but to me it was noticeable), the colors are equaly saturated, but better, specialy whites, in the note 3 they where greenish and depresing. And the size is perfect for gaming, reading and sketching, i cannot put it in any pocket, but the same was true with the note..
The non repleaceable battery its an issue, the first day of use was better in this one, but nothing compares to having a spare battery for long journeys.
Taking notes on the z ultra was better than i expected, its not a replacement for a true wacom pen, but it gets the job done... I recomend papyrus, it has an unlimited canvas and it recognices the finger as a secondary input when using a pen, so you can write with a pen and pan with the finger, pretty usefull.
ZU stock rom doesnt have multiwindows, a shame really, but you can always try omnirom, its not as polished, but i feel like it will be better with time. If you want to let it stock it has the advantage of showing a lot of apps in tablet mode, or semi-tablet mode, the note 3 behaves like the note 2 in that regard.
For now the z ultra feels much snappier, if i where you i will not worry to much about that gigabyte extra,
Maybe my note unit was faulty, but i didn't have any warranty, and i tough it will be better to try the zu before buying another note, and im very happy with my desicion at the moment.
PD: Sorry about my english, if you have any question feel free to ask me, im on vacations
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Not sure about multitasking need, but i'm fine with standard recent apps switcher on Android navbar on XZU. I like mini apps too, but they are not that natural for me so not very often that i have been using it. In Samsung devices a multitasking pane is required since they don't even migrate to On Screen button that Google recommends manufacturer to move into. Not that Samsung can't do recent app switcher (it's just a long click at home) but such delay to switch app will surely hinder people from using it, so that's why multitasking window is a must feature for Samsung devices. So no, i'm fine with how Sony follows Google and done with it.
To OP, yeah there is a Mini Apps to make you able to multitask, but as i said earlier, clicking recent app switcher from navbar is more than fine to compensate for that multitasking. About Battery, well i came from a RAZR Maxx so it's a little downgrade for me but it's not that bad, a full workday can be handled with it. Not having a removable battery is way of the future i think, so i have adapted into it. But because of that we need to learn to prolong battery life (which is good) by not draining it like crazy. It is best to combine it with Sony's powerbank which is a real slim device so i think no hassle to do a routine charging on the go.
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You feedback was perfectly clear and detailed. I appreciate your input!
I think for me so far the small screen of Note 3..well, I mean really not even .2" bigger than Note 2 is what matters the most because for all the power the device has, I just feel that the real state is not enough to fully use it.
I held a Galaxy Mega and felt that was a perfect size for me so I am thinking that will translate to the Ultra Z as well. :good:
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To OP, yeah there is a Mini Apps to make you able to multitask, but as i said earlier, clicking recent app switcher from navbar is more than fine to compensate for that multitasking. About Battery, well i came from a RAZR Maxx so it's a little downgrade for me but it's not that bad, a full workday can be handled with it. Not having a removable battery is way of the future i think, so i have adapted into it. But because of that we need to learn to prolong battery life (which is good) by not draining it like crazy. It is best to combine it with Sony's powerbank which is a real slim device so i think no hassle to do a routine charging on the go.
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Thanks for the explanation on the multi apps too. I think for the most part I use multis when watching a video and someone sends a message and I dont want to interrupt the video or when using GPS and want to also play some video to keep my passenger entertained for example.
Which of course that big screen will be even better at.
With my Note 2, I have to push brightness to the max some times when in the car holder. I hope the Ultra is better at that.
The sony powerbank sounds like a good alternative if not as practical but still I feel better knowing I got the spare power if needed. :good:
The screen on the Z Ultra is SO MUCH BETTER.
once you use it and look back to your note device you will not believe the different.
The Note screen looks like the Wii on an HD TV compared to a blueray movie being the Z
I am really wanting to buy it but now I just found out the C6802 I was going to get for $475 is only going to give me 3G.
I dont really care about LTE speeds but not sure what 3G will be like for ATT.
As long as I can do Netflix, youtube without issues waiting to load forever, I dont care about having super LTE speeds since its a bit pointless to me.
I chatted an ATT tech and he "promised" 3G is not super slow that he even watched youtube HD videos with it..I am so close to going for that C6802!
Regarding the screen, I used to have a Note and I liked its screen, but I used my friends S4 yesterday and my eyes started to bleed. Holy Saturation Batman!
I prefer LCDs now. They are much more natural and nice to look at.
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These Sony small apps there aren't that many and its not every app like note 3 I've not found a way to have split screen for video and other apps it's all just like a small stopwatch window small calculator nothing interesting. Tbf if I had the money I would have went for a note 3 as my second phone but then this phone is ALOT more premium then note 3 it does feel great it's just as someone did mention support of rooting roms recovery does seem quite small smaller then what I expected but I don't no if that's the handset or what.
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I am really wanting to buy it but now I just found out the C6802 I was going to get for $475 is only going to give me 3G.
I dont really care about LTE speeds but not sure what 3G will be like for ATT.
As long as I can do Netflix, youtube without issues waiting to load forever, I dont care about having super LTE speeds since its a bit pointless to me.
I chatted an ATT tech and he "promised" 3G is not super slow that he even watched youtube HD videos with it..I am so close to going for that C6802!
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i'm on att in NY and I came from note 2 and i don't miss LTE. so far i like watching netflix on the Ultra better the screen is my bread and butter.
my buddy has the note 3 and i was upset because of the lack of "true" improvements like new look, screen size like the mega.
like someone mentioned a few post back is that the Z isn't as popular compared to samsung with the roms, but i don't miss that.
i do notice some samsung guys are on some serious hate with the Z ultra. with the so called flaws of the ultra which justify the fact that the phone is water proof. i'd say go play with it at a Sony store, you won't be disappointed. i guarantee that if sammy made the ultra they would talk the phone up. sammy=apple in my eyes now
So if I wanted to have GPS and say, youtube playing, there is not really a way to split the view other than the small app or using like that supertube app maybe?
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These Sony small apps there aren't that many and its not every app like note 3 I've not found a way to have split screen for video and other apps it's all just like a small stopwatch window small calculator nothing interesting. Tbf if I had the money I would have went for a note 3 as my second phone but then this phone is ALOT more premium then note 3 it does feel great it's just as someone did mention support of rooting roms recovery does seem quite small smaller then what I expected but I don't no if that's the handset or what.
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Don't forget that you can make your own small apps by tapping the up arrow and the plus sign (check the attachment for an example)
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Nope, not out of the box at least. You'll have to flash Omni ROM if you want it today.
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No biggie flashing roms..I am addicted to that lol
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No biggie flashing roms..I am addicted to that lol
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Well, problem "solved"
And order placed!
Decided to go with the cheaper C6802 and use 3G...no issue for me since LTE is a waste that just gets me faster to over 5GB anyway
First no Samsung phone since my Captivate.
If Note 3 was 6" it would have been my choice but Samsung let others steal their thunder! Maybe Note 4...or Ultra Z 2 ...we will see when the time comes
Now time to get a case and read a lot for what I will need. It will be here Thursday!
shaolin95 said:
And order placed!
Decided to go with the cheaper C6802 and use 3G...no issue for me since LTE is a waste that just gets me faster to over 5GB anyway
First no Samsung phone since my Captivate.
If Note 3 was 6" it would have been my choice but Samsung let others steal their thunder! Maybe Note 4...or Ultra Z 2 ...we will see when the time comes
Now time to get a case and read a lot for what I will need. It will be here Thursday!
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Do you know if you get the dock included? If you don't get one; get one. I can count the times i've opened a cover port (USB/SIM etc. port) on one hand, and it's so nice to not have to open one every time i have to charge it. It's also nice to have when i'm in bed and watching stuff on it while it's on my nightstand. Mini TV!
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Don't forget that you can make your own small apps by tapping the up arrow and the plus sign (check the attachment for an example)
Nope, not out of the box at least. You'll have to flash Omni ROM if you want it today.
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I did see that that you can use widgets and get more from play store but when.I tried looking for more on play store found nothing and also can't get like video and navigon up at the same time?
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I did see that that you can use widgets and get more from play store but when.I tried looking for more on play store found nothing and also can't get like video and navigon up at the same time?
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Yeah, same here. It seems like there's a tiny error when it tries to search. I found them all by searching manually on the play store though. I don't know if there is a "mini video" small app out there yet since i haven't looked for it.
HEY! What's this?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ru426.android.small_app_mediaplayer
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Hello all!
I now own the exclusive to Xfinity Mobile LG X Charge phone.
For the time I have used it thus far which is just over 12 hours and I have discovered it is missing some essential apps I am very keen on having and am missing which are the basic LG apps Email and Gallery. The Email app worked so good and was so lightweight and simple and just always worked without fuss. The Gallery app is basically the same thing for me. I do not want to use Google Photos and manage my photos. I loved having my picture folders in a nice and simple app.
So now I come here seeking any help or advice on how I could possibly get some stock LG apps to actually work with this new phone. I cannot find any information on this phone anywhere as far as root/custom things.
Any and all help would be greatly appreciative. Thank you.
How do you like it? I should have mine on Monday. I planned on just using the sim card in my S7 for now but after seeing the massive battery, I might just go with it. I don't do anything too intensive.
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How do you like it? I should have mine on Monday. I planned on just using the sim card in my S7 for now but after seeing the massive battery, I might just go with it. I don't do anything too intensive.
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I'm loving the battery life so far. I've been getting 15+ SoT with light usage, some Pokemon GO and music streaming in there as well.
Some things that are of inconvenience to me personally is I cannot get file transfers to work over USB hooking it up to my computer. I tried downloading LG drivers for it and all that. I just ended up using AirDroid to transfer my files over to it.
It works just fine now. It was either my cousins phone as he has the exact same model or it was his computer not allowing the USB hook-up to work. My phone and computer works just fine hooking it up over USB.
It also doesn't come with some stock apps like Gallery and a stock Email app. I have started using Gmail for all of my emails like Hotmail, etc. and using the app Piktures in place of stock Gallery. It has a built in file manager but I did not find it very useful so I picked up open source Amaze file manager, it plays nice.
The camera isn't too shabby I didn't seem to find a manual mode at all so I tried Open Camera, but it appeared to reduce quality so I scrapped it. I came from a locked unpaid for ATT LG G4 so rip on the amazing camera quality I'm use to.
Final thoughts: Love the great battery life and for a light user like my self it is a solid phone as I don't do anything too intensive.
Also if you miss the app drawer you can download it back from LGs app update center in settings.
I've been using it for a few days now. So far I think it's great. The battery is fantastic. I used it all day long yesterday and it was on 48% by the end of the night. That's a great tip about the app drawer. I've had it for so long now that's awkward not having it. I hope this phone gets a little love from developers. I tried KingRoot but no luck. The camera is the only downside for me. It's definitely lower quality than I'm used to. I'll take the trade off right now. It's nice not making monthly payments on a phone.
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I've been using it for a few days now. So far I think it's great. The battery is fantastic. I used it all day long yesterday and it was on 48% by the end of the night. That's a great tip about the app drawer. I've had it for so long now that's awkward not having it. I hope this phone gets a little love from developers. I tried KingRoot but no luck. The camera is the only downside for me. It's definitely lower quality than I'm used to. I'll take the trade off right now. It's nice not making monthly payments on a phone.
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Yes I was so use to the app drawer I had to find a way to get it back, it was driving me nuts lol. I hardly use it as much now but I still do every once and awhile. The default UI launcher has every single app on your phone as a shortcut on your homescreen and I wasn't a fan of that.
Yeah I didn't think KingRoot would work, thanks for trying though. This phone will most likely not get root which makes me sad, but the phone feels pretty stock as it is with little to no bloatware, at least with the Xfinity Mobile model. Do you have this or the Cricket model?
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Yes I was so use to the app drawer I had to find a way to get it back, it was driving me nuts lol. I hardly use it as much now but I still do every once and awhile. The default UI launcher has every single app on your phone as a shortcut on your homescreen and I wasn't a fan of that.
Yeah I didn't think KingRoot would work, thanks for trying though. This phone will most likely not get root which makes me sad, but the phone feels pretty stock as it is with little to no bloatware, at least with the Xfinity Mobile model. Do you have this or the Cricket model?
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I got it for Xfinity. I'm not a huge fan of Comcast, but my Verizon bill was out of control. I went from $180 a month for 10GB to $80. I have unlimited, my wife is per GB because she doesn't use much. I was also paying $30 a month for my S7 Edge. So the difference is really $50 a month. I'll take it.
I agree about root. I doubt anyone will pay attention to this phone. We can hope though. I can follow instructions but find exploits is way over my head.
Yup it is nice especially if you already have service through Comcast.
I tried Debloater to disable apps but it's either Nougat or a security patch that doesn't allow Debloater to work anymore.
Evan20x said:
Yup it is nice especially if you already have service through Comcast.
I tried Debloater to disable apps but it's either Nougat or a security patch that doesn't allow Debloater to work anymore.
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Just an update in case anyone cares. This phone is freaking awesome. It's almost 7:00pm and my batter is at 75%. It's plenty fast enough. The only downside to me is the camera. It's not a deal breaker though.
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Just an update in case anyone cares. This phone is freaking awesome. It's almost 7:00pm and my batter is at 75%. It's plenty fast enough. The only downside to me is the camera. It's not a deal breaker though.
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Just curious as to what you think is wrong with the camera? I actually thought the camera was really good compared to my other phones. Moto g4 play and Samsung Galaxy grand prime. This phone seems to take very clear photos and videos.
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Just curious as to what you think is wrong with the camera? I actually thought the camera was really good compared to my other phones. Moto g4 play and Samsung Galaxy grand prime. This phone seems to take very clear photos and videos.
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The camera is a step down from my old LG G4, but the camera is good enough for me. It is still a decent camera.
For lithium630 I guess he is comparing it to the camera on his Samsung S7 which has dual 12MP cameras.
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Just an update in case anyone cares. This phone is freaking awesome. It's almost 7:00pm and my batter is at 75%. It's plenty fast enough. The only downside to me is the camera. It's not a deal breaker though.
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The camera is a step down from my old LG G4, but the camera is good enough for me. It is still a decent camera.
For lithium630 I guess he is comparing it to the camera on his Samsung S7 which has dual 12MP cameras.
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I see, you can't really compare a high end phone to a budget phone. There are probably plenty of differences between the two. Honestly.
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Just curious as to what you think is wrong with the camera? I actually thought the camera was really good compared to my other phones. Moto g4 play and Samsung Galaxy grand prime. This phone seems to take very clear photos and videos.
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I had the Samsung S7 Edge before this one. The pictures were crystal clear. By comparison this one often looks a little out of focus to me and grainy.
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I had the Samsung S7 Edge before this one. The pictures were crystal clear. By comparison this one often looks a little out of focus to me and grainy.
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The S7 edge is a top of the line phone, you shouldn't compare it to a budget phone. It's like comparing a Lamborghini to a Ford.
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The S7 edge is a top of the line phone, you shouldn't compare it to a budget phone. It's like comparing a Lamborghini to a Ford.
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I realize that. I was explaining what it was like to make the switch in case anyone was thinking of it. I'm shocked that the camera is the ONLY trade-off for me. I love this phone. I can't imagine paying four times the price for a "top tier" phone again.
The only other downside is that I doubt developers will give it any love. There was no bootloader unlock for the S7 Edge anyway.