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According to Paul O'brien (who from what I understand is a pretty solid source) AT&T has locked down the One's bootloader, like it did with the One X. Apparently that turned out to be a huge mess. Was totally planning on getting this, now I'm strongly reconsidering...
Here's the post: https://twitter.com/PaulOBrien/status/321568521521881088.
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According to Paul O'brien (who from what I understand is a pretty solid source) AT&T has locked down the One's bootloader, like it did with the One X. Apparently that turned out to be a huge mess. Was totally planning on getting this, now I'm strongly reconsidering...
Here's the post: https://twitter.com/PaulOBrien/status/321568521521881088.
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lololol, not this **** again.
This is why I got the Dev edition
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Not surprised by this at all its att it sucks i wish i could have bought the development edition but I have faith the people here will crack it
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According to Paul O'brien (who from what I understand is a pretty solid source) AT&T has locked down the One's bootloader, like it did with the One X. Apparently that turned out to be a huge mess.
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I've been on the One X forums from just about the start, and I'm not sure I would call it a "huge mess". A bootloader unlock method was discovered and posted by an XDA dev a little over 2 weeks after the device was released.
What turned out to be a bit more of a mess, is that root was needed to get the bootloader unlock, and HTC kept patching the existing root exploit with every firmware update.
This is indeed disappointing. But I won't believe it 100% until the phone is actually released, and people try to unlock the bootloader. Even then, the phone will be a popular one, and I have faith that the devs here will crack it.
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This is why I got the Dev edition
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To the OP.. Where have you been lately? this isn't no surprise to anyone that the phone has a lock bootloader
And to all of you buying the dev edition, whats the point of a unlock bootloader if you don't have s-off?
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To the OP.. Where have you been lately? this isn't no surprise to anyone that the phone has a lock bootloader
And to all of you buying the dev edition, whats the point of a unlock bootloader if you don't have s-off?
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Really though, the amount of modders who need SOFF to do what they want is like less than 5% of the mod community. Root typically handles most issues. Unlocked bootloader is just that barrier above root.
Though, I'm kind of mad that HTC isn't sticking it to ATT on this and telling them to bugger off. Tmobiles is unlocked...
redpoint73 said:
I've been on the One X forums from just about the start, and I'm not sure I would call it a "huge mess". A bootloader unlock method was discovered and posted by an XDA dev a little over 2 weeks after the device was released.
What turned out to be a bit more of a mess, is that root was needed to get the bootloader unlock, and HTC kept patching the existing root exploit with every firmware update.
This is indeed disappointing. But I won't believe it 100% until the phone is actually released, and people try to unlock the bootloader. Even then, the phone will be a popular one, and I have faith that the devs here will crack it.
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If I read correctly, someone stated that the cid partition was write protected on the one
So since supercid was how we unlocked the boot loader it may be a bit more difficult on the one
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If I read correctly, someone stated that the cid partition was write protected on the one
So since supercid was how we unlocked the boot loader it may be a bit more difficult on the one
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I don't know much about the typical bootloader unlocking methods, but saw this recent article about unlocking newer Qualcomm-based Motorola phones. Not that this method will work on the AT&T One, but hopefully a similar method can be found if none of the current tricks work.
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If I read correctly, someone stated that the cid partition was write protected on the one
So since supercid was how we unlocked the boot loader it may be a bit more difficult on the one
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My comment had to do more with informing the previous poster what actually happened on the One X (that he seemed to mostly only know about 2nd hand), rather than speculating on what HTC has done on this upcoming phone. As we know, HTC is a tricky bugger, and I won't even begin to try to guess what security enhancements they have up their sleeve this time around!
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whats the point of a unlock bootloader if you don't have s-off?
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You can root, install custom recovery, and flash custom ROMs with an unlocked bootloader.
S-off allows some other things, such as modding hboot, and flashing radios. But its not needed for flashing custom ROMs.
you can already unlock the bootloader+root etc..
http://www.andromods.com/root-unloc...-all-versions-attt-mobile-sprint-verizon.html
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you can already unlock the bootloader+root etc..
http://www.andromods.com/root-unloc...-all-versions-attt-mobile-sprint-verizon.html
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That's a how to, if unlocking isn't blocked by the carrier
Which it probably is on the at&t variant
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That's a how to, if unlocking isn't blocked by the carrier
Which it probably is on the at&t variant
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Aha! gotcha, Well. I tried to order the Dev edition but it got out of stock.. so i have no choice but to get one from ATT and hope for the best : D
Yeah you can flash roms etc..
But who wants to manually flash the kernel every time you want to update a rom?
I would like to just put my rom on my phone and flash it. Simple as that
Regardless this is XDA and i trust the devs here will do something to get AT&T users rooted.
mine will be going back so fast if its not unlockable
Sprint and tmobile versions are unlockable
There is no surprise about ATT locking the boot loader. Why do you think HTC is selling a developer edition that is using ATT bands. They solved it because there are a few of us who root our phones etc. Most people who buy phones don't do any of this XDA stuff
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I see it this way, with the $100 rebate and the HDMI device I am getting from HTC and ATT the one will be pretty much free. I am switching from Sprint which I had originally switched to with hopes of buying the Nexus 4. Since they stopped doing Nexus on CDMA this is my move back. The One will turn into a backup phone and the next Nexus will become my main. If a Nexus doesn't come out in the next 4 months I'll just buy a Nexus 4 for now. I'll just never do OTAs on the One until a root is found or just sell the thing when I get a Nexus.
Btw, who is this Steven Bell guy? Does he have an HTC One from ATT that he tried to unlock?
Im glad i got the dev edition. I canceled ATT pre order day after i ordered. My Dev edition says backorder now but says shipment scheduled Tomorrow the 10th.
Either some lazy people here.. Or trolls.. It only takes an additional few seconds to flash a kernel if you need it. Those few seconds certainly wouldn't keep me from owning this device. This phone looks like it'll have a lot of Dev presence. S-off might not be far off. :victory:
I dont know who Steve bell is (guy paul obrien quoted) And how he would know The ATT is locked since its not out yet. I guess he's credible somewhat if Paul is repeating it.
Hmmm....im really starting to second guess this phone....im confused why att locks down HTC phones but not other android phones like Samsung? Sorry really new to HTC phones....
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The official support thread for the Loki bootloader hack is in the AT&T forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41751943#post41751943
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The official support thread for the Loki bootloader hack is in the AT&T forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41751943#post41751943
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Yay!!! :beer:
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Very nice.
djrbliss, would this enable the flashing of a patched aboot? That way it achieves a similar setup like with the Verizon S3.
this just seemed obvious. http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=483
are we ever gonna get an unlocked bootloader? I'm seriously considering just getting a new phone, its been almost two years :x Thanks!
yergo88 said:
are we ever gonna get an unlocked bootloader? I'm seriously considering just getting a new phone, its been almost two years :x Thanks!
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Get a new phone
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Most likely gonna switch to AT&T or T-Mobile and get an S5 or maybe even an LG G2. I saw an LG G2 last night and it honestly blew me away, S4 was fun while it lasted
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are we ever gonna get an unlocked bootloader? I'm seriously considering just getting a new phone, its been almost two years :x Thanks!
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Yeah i understand the frustration with the locked boot loader.. No Aosp Roms is fine with me but no kernels sucks .. I should have researched a little more before buying this phone but i only paid $185 for it two months ago so its not a big deal . I can still sell for a profit it i decide to get a different phone...Might check out the g2 but will probably end up with GS5
I'm beginning to lose hope that the bootloader is going to be unlocked. Not because the devs here aren't fantastic - they are undoubtedly incredible. But based on my prior experiences with locked phones, this one seems to be unusually challenging. So what do folks think the odds are at this point?
PS: Forgive me if this belongs in another thread but I figured it's less about the process or the bounty and more about likelihood....
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I'm not holding my breath. But it's reasonable that something may be found along the way by accident or by leak..
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the odds are exactly 50/50
scientific fact.
lol for real though, I may be going to the HTC One, if the boot loader isn't unlocked in a couple months.
I would prefer a One Max IF you can unlock the bootloader on HTC's site.
I'm already trying to trade my S4 for a Note 2. Little patience I have. Which leads me to my next question... Does anybody know if the Note 2 is a nightmare or have the Dev's got that one figured out?
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I'm already trying to trade my S4 for a Note 2. Little patience I have. Which leads me to my next question... Does anybody know if the Note 2 is a nightmare or have the Dev's got that one figured out?
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I owned one before the s4. No problems unlocking bootloader etc on the note 2. Everything was pretty stable as well as far as aosp roms.
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I owned one before the s4. No problems unlocking bootloader etc on the note 2. Everything was pretty stable as well as far as aosp roms.
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How long you going to give it? I'm sure as soon as I trade back they will crack it!
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I'm already trying to trade my S4 for a Note 2. Little patience I have. Which leads me to my next question... Does anybody know if the Note 2 is a nightmare or have the Dev's got that one figured out?
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I came from the note 2, development for the note 2 is not as active as the s4 but there is development.
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I currently plan on getting the note 3. Not stopping using the gs4, just having the ability to go big when I feel like it. :good:
That and to try to start some projects for it. Always fun to have projects!
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andybones said:
the odds are exactly 50/50
scientific fact.
lol for real though, I may be going to the HTC One, if the boot loader isn't unlocked in a couple months.
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Wasn't the HTC DNA blocked from being unlocked after a vzw update? If the one is unlockable then I'd gladly switch.
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The odds are the same as finding a way to install a rom on the me7 update
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pretty soon Verizon will lock down all phones and unlocking and rooting phones will be gone foreverrrrrrrr
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pretty soon Verizon will lock down all phones and unlocking and rooting phones will be gone foreverrrrrrrr
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I doubt rooting will ever be gone, but custom recoveries are probably going to be a thing of the past
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I doubt rooting will ever be gone, but custom recoveries are probably going to be a thing of the past
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Well, didn't the guy from Cyanogen Mod make a G+ post a week or two ago, talking about trying to move Cyanogen mod to not requiring root access? https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/BDVgeKMWaf4
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pretty soon Verizon will lock down all phones and unlocking and rooting phones will be gone foreverrrrrrrr
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samsung develeoper phones, htc unlock.
theres future rooting..
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Well, didn't the guy from Cyanogen Mod make a G+ post a week or two ago, talking about trying to move Cyanogen mod to not requiring root access? https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/BDVgeKMWaf4
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He did, and from what I got out of it he sees the evolution going that way. It would be nice to have CM without a custom bootloader.
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He did, and from what I got out of it he sees the evolution going that way. It would be nice to have CM without a custom bootloader.
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Maybe I'm just a noob but how would that work?
I think it is going to be the only solution going forward. I don't see any of the manufacturers or providers easing back on locking down these devices. If anything they will get tighter.
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Maybe I'm just a noob but how would that work?
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I am not totally sure, but I felt the CM team was indicating something in the way Google was implementing security and the code that really allows things to be done without the intrusion of root. I am not a developer and likely never would acquire the skills to be more than a guinea pig for them (don't mind) and I learned a lot from folks here especially with my HTC One DE which was a rockin device. I just wished AT&T service was better in my area and I could live with it. Some day I will likely try them again but I just can't do it right now. The big reason I did was to get unlocked phones, but given the sheer lack of LTE for US on the international phones its clear the OEM's are NOT making global phones on LTE today. It could be 10 years before we truly see global LTE phones.
Personalty, It's not about CM to me, I wasn't full access to my phone, if I have HTC I was S-OFF, if this phone I was the boot loader unlock.
Things take time and money, check the bounty, who knows for all I know they have a boot loader unlock and are waiting for it to hit $10G or some other number.
It's hard to say really. But I hope that Verizon still allows their HTC phone to at least get HTC -Dev unlock to allow custom recovery and ROM-Ming, and as for Samsung, if a Dev. edition is the only option, I will buy the phone for at Verizon (whatever one I can sell for the most on Swappa), sell it, make about enough money to buy the Dev. edition at only $200 after selling the device.
Just some ranting, sorry.
All,
I have the Verizon Galaxy S4 Developer Edition. I purchased this one b/c it had an unlocked bootloader and I like to install custom recoveries so I can install custom ROMs. Originally, it came with the MDK firmware on it and I was able to root it and install a custom recovery.
I applied the OTA MJ7 update. While I am able to root the device, I have not been able to install a custom recovery. After doing a ton of reading and soft bricking, everyone says that the latest firmware locks down the bootloader so that you cannot install custom recoveries.
Here lies my confusion...I bought the Developer Edition so my bootloader would never be locked and I could always install custom recoveries. Is there something I'm missing? Is it possible for me having a Developer Edition phone to install a custom recovery even though I'm on build I545VRUEMJ7?
In talking with Samsung support, they said that the bootloader will NEVER be locked with any updates on the Developer edition. Any information or help is much appreciated.
Thanks,
Jonathan
Where did you purchase it from?
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Where did you purchase it from?
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I purchased it directly from the Samsung website. I tried to post the link but it wouldn't let me since I haven't made enough posts. If you google "galaxy s4 developer edition", it is the first non-advertised link that shows up. That's where I purchased it from.
If you take the cover and battery out, it says Developer Edition on the phone.
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I purchased it directly from the Samsung website. I tried to post the link but it wouldn't let me since I haven't made enough posts. If you google "galaxy s4 developer edition", it is the first non-advertised link that shows up. That's where I purchased it from.
If you take the cover and battery out, it says Developer Edition on the phone.
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As i understand it when you took the update it locked your bootloader, but please anyone correct me if im wrong
See that's what I thought too... That the update possibly locked my bootloader but how can I check if it is locked or not?
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As i understand it when you took the update it locked your bootloader, but please anyone correct me if im wrong
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Thats what I've heard too. I'm no expert in the Dev S4, but I think I've seen a thread or two stating the same kind of problem. Which is crazy if you ask me.
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I know Surge1223 I think posted the Dev Edition MDK firmware somewhere on here, I suggest maybe checking with him, maybe you can flash that back in your phone and be good?!
If nothing else, find that thread and ask him what to do... My guess is he'll have an answer for you.
I've read that it can re lock your phone and ive also read that the updates will not lock it up.... So I'm not really sure.
Good luck though!!!
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See that's what I thought too... That the update possibly locked my bootloader but how can I check if it is locked or not?
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If you took the OTA, you no longer have the same bootloader and in effect locked the bootloader on your phone. Far as I know.
safestrap enabled, Hyperdrive driven
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All,
I have the Verizon Galaxy S4 Developer Edition. I purchased this one b/c it had an unlocked bootloader and I like to install custom recoveries so I can install custom ROMs. Originally, it came with the MDK firmware on it and I was able to root it and install a custom recovery.
I applied the OTA MJ7 update. While I am able to root the device, I have not been able to install a custom recovery. After doing a ton of reading and soft bricking, everyone says that the latest firmware locks down the bootloader so that you cannot install custom recoveries.
Here lies my confusion...I bought the Developer Edition so my bootloader would never be locked and I could always install custom recoveries. Is there something I'm missing? Is it possible for me having a Developer Edition phone to install a custom recovery even though I'm on build I545VRUEMJ7?
In talking with Samsung support, they said that the bootloader will NEVER be locked with any updates on the Developer edition. Any information or help is much appreciated.
Thanks,
Jonathan
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You locked your bootloader.
You used ODIN to install a MJ7 OTA file?
Consumer firmware can be installed on a Dev. edition, but it locks the bootloader.
They should have said something about that. They didn't?
I don't think you are going to get anywhere with support unless you send the phone back for a replacement. IMHO
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You locked your bootloader.
You used ODIN to install a MJ7 OTA file?
Consumer firmware can be installed on a Dev. edition, but it locks the bootloader.
They should have said something about that. They didn't?
I don't think you are going to get anywhere with support unless you send the phone back for a replacement. IMHO
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Yeah, I used ODIN to flash MJ7. Sucks. I will just have to be more patient next time and not flash the latest thing right away. Seems like it is taking forever for someone to crack this bootloader.
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Yeah, I used ODIN to flash MJ7. Sucks. I will just have to be more patient next time and not flash the latest thing right away. Seems like it is taking forever for someone to crack this bootloader.
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most likely, the bootloader won't be cracked. Too much security in place
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most likely, the bootloader won't be cracked. Too much security in place
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How bad is it that people like him hey a Dev Edition that SHOULD always stay unlocked in my opinion, then are able to lock it back up?!?!
To me that's ridiculous. I'd be more than pissed if that was me.
There was a thread somewhere on here containing a conversation between that person and Samsung I think, and the Sammy rep told that person that the Dev Edition would never be locked even through any OTA.
Seems like such a circle jerk dealing with those people, I've fired off a couple emails myself just for laughs to Samsung about various things, and that's all they do is BS us.
What a shame, a Dev S4 that is just like my locked up mj7 S4.
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I am an owner of a DevS4. What the OP did was definitely not a good thing. The DevS4 came originally with I545OYUAMDK. The retail S4 came with I545VRUAMDK. The only difference is that the DevS4 has a different ABOOT partition which allows for the unlocking. By applying the MJ7 OTA or ODIN file he essentially over-wrote his ABOOT partition, locking his phone down and turning it into a regular retail S4. The DevS4's are now sold with I545OYUEMJ7 - he applied I545VRUEMJ7. Unless Samsung will help him out by flashing the firmware to his phone so he can go back to Developer state, he is SOL with a DevS4 now turned into a locked down retail S4.
I only say this based on what I have seen/witnessed.
I've seen this happen before and Samsung took the phone and flashed the correct firmware, not saying you'll be so lucky but search around and you may find what I'm remembering.
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Crazy. Dev edition phones should have an efuse that prevents locking. Trying to flash locked firmware should fail.
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Crazy. Dev edition phones should have an efuse that prevents locking. Trying to flash locked firmware should fail.
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Exactly. Lot of money for something that can easily be screwed up.
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Just goes to show they don't have a real interest in a Dev device.
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Just goes to show they don't have a real interest in a Dev device.
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Not so sure if it a case of not having interest, I just don't think they thought it out fully. They produced them and spent the money investing in it. There is a Note 3 Developer edition as well. They just didn't fully think out the implications of support, updating, etc. Which is a shame. The Samsung Developer Device program could have been huge if it was executed properly. To take a retail device, change a few letters from "VRE" to "OYU", slap a sticker on it and call it a developer device, while it still contains KNOX and other developer unfriendly aspects was poor execution.
Maybe there should be a caution sticky here to not ODIN Consumer Ed images onto Dev Ed devices.
Its odd that Samsung even has this program but I guess they want devs to create Samsung Apps for carrier devices.
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Not so sure if it a case of not having interest, I just don't think they thought it out fully. They produced them and spent the money investing in it. There is a Note 3 Developer edition as well. They just didn't fully think out the implications of support, updating, etc. Which is a shame. The Samsung Developer Device program could have been huge if it was executed properly. To take a retail device, change a few letters from "VRE" to "OYU", slap a sticker on it and call it a developer device, while it still contains KNOX and other developer unfriendly aspects was poor execution.
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DEV owners gotta understand wtf they are doing
Listen I feel sorry for the OP but it's completely his fault for flashing a consumer device image. I know if I were Samsung I wouldn't expect people who buy DEVELOPER editions to do something as silly as that.
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So I did a little searching before posting so don't ream me please ??
1) Does the dev edition s4 also have a locked bootloader? That would be f'in whack.. If it us unlocked and my second q doesn't pan I may try and swoop one up. ..
2) I have a friend with a tmobile s4 that he cracked the digitizer and just reported it lost... If I took his board could I unlock it to big red? If so what would be the consequences?
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Zooandbio4me said:
So I did a little searching before posting so don't ream me please ??
1) Does the dev edition s4 also have a locked bootloader? That would be f'in whack.. If it us unlocked and my second q doesn't pan I may try and swoop one up. ..
2) I have a friend with a tmobile s4 that he cracked the digitizer and just reported it lost... If I took his board could I unlock it to big red? If so what would be the consequences?
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The Dev Edition S4 normally does not have a locked bootloader. I say normally because some users took an Over The Air update which did lock the bootloader. So it depends on whether the bootloader is a stock MDK bootloader or if the user took a subsequent OTA update which in turn locked / changed the bootloader. Also, there is no factor image for the Dev Edition, so if it is locked it is going to stay locked for the foreseeable future. As for your second question, I'm not sure that will work. I think the firmware differences between TMO and Verizon plus the difference between GSM and CDMA will not be easy to overcome. But I don't know that for sure.
I'm not trying to be a know it all trust me lol but the dev s4 never got otas I don't believe. The users who locked then up did so by using Odin and retail firmware.
Just throwing that out there.
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Mistertac said:
I'm not trying to be a know it all trust me lol but the dev s4 never got otas I don't believe. The users who locked then up did so by using Odin and retail firmware.
Just throwing that out there.
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I don't take that as you being a know it all, you're probably right. I just know some Dev owners did something to lock their bootloaders I just assumed (wrongfully) that it was an OTA of some sorts. Sorry for the misinformation.
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I'm not trying to be a know it all trust me lol but the dev s4 never got otas I don't believe.
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I know one user who received his DevEd about the same time as me. He received an OTA that locked his bootloader. I have never received an OTA, and I'm still running stock (more or less) DevEd.
It's funny how I bought the DevEd, because I wanted a guarantee that I could ROM the device. But I fell in love with the stock OS, and don't care if I ever have KitKat.
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I know one user who received his DevEd about the same time as me. He received an OTA that locked his bootloader. I have never received an OTA, and I'm still running stock (more or less) DevEd.
It's funny how I bought the DevEd, because I wanted a guarantee that I could ROM the device. But I fell in love with the stock OS, and don't care if I ever have KitKat.
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No kidding? I didn't know any of them got OTAs. At least you have the option to flash whatever you want if you did get bored with stock.
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