Im so frustrated by the touch screen on my ZU, its so Sensitive (or under Sensitive ) that i always accidentally select items or make phone calls when i scroll through lists. I've updated to latest firmware already but same thing
Is no one else experiencing this? I only see a complaint occasionally. I brought the phone to Sony of Taiwan and they said it seems normal and dont recommend i send it in for repair.
viclee888 said:
Im so frustrated by the touch screen on my ZU, its so Sensitive (or under Sensitive ) that i always accidentally select items or make phone calls when i scroll through lists. I've updated to latest firmware already but same thing
Is no one else experiencing this? I only see a complaint occasionally. I brought the phone to Sony of Taiwan and they said it seems normal and dont recommend i send it in for repair.
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Things like this are always a double edged sword.
On 1 hand people will see this as an issue and dislike it, or others like myself will like it as it makes the screen effortless to interact with.
I can see your point though, especially if you are coming from a device with a screen not as sensitive.
I come from an iphone, and have played extensively with a S 3,none of which have these issues,and are just as effortless
ScottishSwan said:
Things like this are always a double edged sword.
On 1 hand people will see this as an issue and dislike it, or others like myself will like it as it makes the screen effortless to interact with.
I can see your point though, especially if you are coming from a device with a screen not as sensitive.
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viclee888 said:
I come from an iphone, and have played extensively with a S 3,none of which have these issues,and are just as effortless
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Are you running the latest update? .475.
viclee888 said:
Im so frustrated by the touch screen on my ZU, its so Sensitive (or under Sensitive ) that i always accidentally select items or make phone calls when i scroll through lists. I've updated to latest firmware already but same thing
Is no one else experiencing this? I only see a complaint occasionally. I brought the phone to Sony of Taiwan and they said it seems normal and dont recommend i send it in for repair.
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I had this problem with the Sony Tablet Z and it drove me crazy.. a software update fixed the issue but I returned the tablet anyways. But I have seen no issues like that with my Ultra Z.
Yup, updated this morning hoping for a fix but seems the same. ..trying to do factory restore right now to see if that helps
.475 seemed to have fixed that issue on my phone.
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A factory reset DID help ! The touch still has occasional issues but much better now ... Finally can use the phone properly
Sorry, it didn't help. problem still exists and Sony is telling me this is acting as suggested. I guess I'll have to wait for someone (hopefully) come up with a sensitivity adjustment.
Did you apply any screen protector as certain bad screen protector will affected the sensitive issue.
Other wise, did you a iPhone ex owner. No biased on this, but base on what I had seen so far, certain iPhone owner can't proper use Android phone due to the touch & scroll method is different. Android only need to slightly touch not like iPhone need much pressure on it.
I've removed the screen protector, same thing.
It can't be an iphone vs android thing, the problem doesn't exist on Samsung devices I've played with or my Nexus 7.
It feels more like the screen is not sensitive enough? It isn't registering that I am still scrolling and so it registers a finger "lift" and selects into an item. Same thing if I try to hold a key on the keyboard to access secondary letter (holding down on a key to select comma, for example) it'll repeat hitting that key. I have to exert a lot more pressure and be very sure my finger doesn't move to properly access the secondary key.
viclee888 said:
I've removed the screen protector, same thing.
It can't be an iphone vs android thing, the problem doesn't exist on Samsung devices I've played with or my Nexus 7.
It feels more like the screen is not sensitive enough? It isn't registering that I am still scrolling and so it registers a finger "lift" and selects into an item. Same thing if I try to hold a key on the keyboard to access secondary letter (holding down on a key to select comma, for example) it'll repeat hitting that key. I have to exert a lot more pressure and be very sure my finger doesn't move to properly access the secondary key.
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The repeat-hitting when tap-hold is very abnormal. Why your service center didn't recognize that as a problem when they examine it? I think you should request for replacement.
I also had the same problem... touchscreen is a little bit buggy.. but the latest patch did fix a little bit.. but its still there. still far from my ip5 , s3 s4 note 1 note 2... hope they will fix these soon.
I have exactly the same problem on mine, sometimes is really hateful but for sure when rooted we will be able to change that value.
I also have major issues with the screen.
The best way to illustrate the problem is by holding a finger on the screen on the lockscreen.
It just flickers a lot like I'm tapping repeatedly on the screen.
I've updated and factory reset without it fixing anything :/
I was wrong, I still have issues. The newer firmware just made it overall a little "better" but I am going to send it in for repairs...this is ridiculous.
AyuCon said:
I also have major issues with the screen.
The best way to illustrate the problem is by holding a finger on the screen on the lockscreen.
It just flickers a lot like I'm tapping repeatedly on the screen.
I've updated and factory reset without it fixing anything :/
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should I wait for next update?
I'm having the same issue with the screen sensitivity. It also skips when using a pencil as a stylus, which is the main reason I bought this phone- to draw and take notes. I don't like amoleds, need pentaband and can't fit anything bigger than the z ultra into my pocket. It has become very annoying, and I'm wondering if I should hold out for the next update or send it in now...I have no backup phone.
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I'm having the same issue with the screen sensitivity. It also skips when using a pencil as a stylus, which is the main reason I bought this phone- to draw and take notes. I don't like amoleds, need pentaband and can't fit anything bigger than the z ultra into my pocket. It has become very annoying, and I'm wondering if I should hold out for the next update or send it in now...I have no backup phone.
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I've sent it in yesterday.
The Sony associate said he can see the issue as being "screen more sensitive than usual" but can't promise anything. He said he will demonstrate it to his colleagues as the repair form lists the symptoms vaguely as "screen erraticly jumps" which doesn't describe the problem accurately.
I will know within 2 weeks and post the results here. I am not holding my breath, though, as I think Sony has pointed out that the specialty feature of the ZU using a pencil to control the screen is produced by turning up the sensitivity of the touch screen. Kind of like Samsung Galaxy S4's feature of allowing users to use the touchscreen with gloves on. At least Galaxy users can turn the damn feature off!
Interestingly enough, while in the repair line I met another user who has a ZU and I asked if he had the same issues. He said no, he didn't have that issue at all.
Sony Taiwan sent it back to the repair shop stating they updated it to .475 and there shouldn't be any problems. Problem is, I already had updated it to .475 when I brought it in for repairs. Problem still exists and I have them send it back. If this doesn't improve I can only blame myself....should have bought a samsung!
Apparently Sony Taiwan refuses to offer any fix for this as they stated this "sensitivity" is needed for the pencil stylus feature.
Very unfortunate, very lame.
Anyone want to buy a 2 week old Sony ZU in Taiwan?
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when I'm reading web page, and I'm scrolling up or down, the tablet randomly ZOOMS right in to part of the page i'm on. Often to a section that I'm not even reading. Is this a known issue? Am I doing something wrong?
thanks, hopefully someone knows what I'm talking about cuz it's driving me crazy!!
This happens to me sometime, all I can say is that the touch screen is too sensitive, I have to make sure that my finger doesn't stay on the screen to long.
Yeah the screen seems to have a sensitivity issue.
I'm just sayin!
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Yeah the screen seems to have a sensitivity issue.
I'm just sayin!
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Can't say it'a an issue, this happens to ipad and Samsung Galaxy tablet as well when I tried my friends' devices.When you get used to your device, this will happen less.
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Can't say it'a an issue, this happens to ipad and Samsung Galaxy tablet as well when I tried my friends' devices.When you get used to your device, this will happen less.
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Hopefully this is the case. Then I'll less likely feel this is a problem isolated to my unit.
I'm just sayin!
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Then I'll less likely feel this is a problem isolated to my unit.
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The Sony S is super sensitive to quiver-fast double taps and finger jiggles (that you may not know you are doing.) Pretty sure that you'll get used to it and, even without thinking about it, simply adjust your browsing method. Takes a day or so to get beyond it.
Well, I've got my tablet for a few months now and I think every day that this is a pain in the ass. Regarding this issue I love the ipad. Or my galaxy s. Neither of them have this issue.
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kramdens said:
when I'm reading web page, and I'm scrolling up or down, the tablet randomly ZOOMS right in to part of the page i'm on. Often to a section that I'm not even reading. Is this a known issue? Am I doing something wrong?
thanks, hopefully someone knows what I'm talking about cuz it's driving me crazy!!
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Did you put a screen protector on the screen without removing the factory one? I did at first and was having the same issue as you. Couldn't even type a message because it kept double tapping letters i was trying to type and scrolling while browsing sucked.
I took off the one I put on and just have the factory one now and, though it still happens some times, it is definitely better than it was before.
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Did you put a screen protector on the screen without removing the factory one? I did at first and was having the same issue as you. Couldn't even type a message because it kept double tapping letters i was trying to type and scrolling while browsing sucked.
I took off the one I put on and just have the factory one now and, though it still happens some times, it is definitely better than it was before.
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Yeah I had to do this same thing. The extra screen protector desensitized the hell out of tablet S. I've taken it off and it's much better, but still double taps at times on 1 tap.
I'm just sayin!
anurbanlegend said:
Did you put a screen protector on the screen without removing the factory one? I did at first and was having the same issue as you. Couldn't even type a message because it kept double tapping letters i was trying to type and scrolling while browsing sucked.
I took off the one I put on and just have the factory one now and, though it still happens some times, it is definitely better than it was before.
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The salesman at the sony store put it on for me. So im not sure. I'd like to this he dd it properly.
I truly believe my tablet is defective. The problem I mentioned above plus horrible and slow scrolling, widgets disappearing, widgets freezing. Etc....
My tablet has been a lot better since I removed the protective film covering the screen. The cover was kinda thick. Now the colors are brighter and the viewing angle is better. I like the texture of the glass too.
I also don't notice the "ghost touches" that would happen right after I'd touch the screen, kind of like a double tap. Those were few and far between, but I've been enjoying my tablet sans protector enough, that this is just a bonus.
I'm not guaranteeing it, but this might fix your issue. You could also try replacing it with a thinner protector. My nook color's touchscreen was crazy without a protector, maybe this tablet is the opposite.
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It also sounds like you could use a factory reset. I was having issues with my tablet being crappy and slow, and after doing a factory reset, freezing the unneeded apps (pretty much all of the Sony ones), disabling the media scanner, and applying the V6 supercharger script OOM values, my tablet has been pretty snappy.
I've been using the new Go Launcher HD home app in place of the default launcher which I froze (aka disabled the package).
Wait, there is a screen protector coming with the tab? I purchased the sony screen protector and put it on. So I've got two protectors on it?
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Wait, there is a screen protector coming with the tab? I purchased the sony screen protector and put it on. So I've got two protectors on it?
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Same with me, my tablet came with a free protector and the shop put it on for me. I am not sure if there is one already there as some insisted here but I have no sensitivity issue even if there are two screen protectors!
Yes it has a protector on it. It is very tough to keep the screen from getting cracked. To remove it, start at one of the corners with your fingernail. I used the bottom rounded corners to start. At first the screen will feel a little rough, but that's from the adhesive. Clean it with sone electronics spray and a microfiber cloth.
I like mine better with out it. The screen feels like glass now instead of plastic.
Yes..the tablet comes with a screen protector preinstalled which you can see if you look closely at the edge of the screen.
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Here's a thread with pictures and info on how to remove the factory screen protector...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501144
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I have the same touch sensitivity problems on my Tablet S (16GB WiFi) purchased in Singapore. Frequent hypersensitive touch behavior leading to random zooming and double taps, 'stickiness' in scrolling menus etc.
I read about the factory installed screen protector here on XDA but was unsuccessful in removing it...couldn't even get the edges to come off. Went down to the local Singapore Sony Service center and asked them to take a look at the hypersensitive touch issue...and what do you know...I couldn't reproduce it on the spot. Tried for 15 min, but the tablet behaved perfectly during the period . Couldn't convince the service tech that something was wrong.
Anyway, i asked them to remove the factory supplied screen protector and they said it should NOT be removed since it's not merely a protector, but a necessary part of the display for improving color reproduction and decreasing glare. Don't know if he was BSing me, but I left it at that. Note the image on this official website under the 'Sony’s amazing TruBlack™ display' section...
[EDIT: Looks like I cannot post a URL as a new user. Please check the Sony Singapore Tablet S official website]
I bought the official Sony screen protector (matte type) and had them install it. The sensitivity is much better now and the frequency of random zoom and double-tap has decreased drastically; but it's still there and pops up occasionally.
I am unsure of what to do next. Could it be a software issue? Among the browsers, I notice that it is most prominent/frequent in Opera Mobile. Occurs less frequently in the stock browser.
Today, I noticed that we have a possibility to set the sensibilty in our settings. Just go to input help (probably not the correct word... mine is german. It's the setting with the hand as a symbol). Within, there is a setting called something like touchscreen gestures. My tablet was default set to short. I changed it and now I don't experience the zoom issue anymore.
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k.bergmann2 said:
Today, I noticed that we have a possibility to set the sensibilty in our settings. Just go to input help (probably not the correct word... mine is german. It's the setting with the hand as a symbol). Within, there is a setting called something like touchscreen gestures. My tablet was default set to short. I changed it and now I don't experience the zoom issue anymore.
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It's Touch n Hold Delay under Accessibility and default setting is Short.
I have no screen sensitivity problem on my tablet with extra screen protector on (I'm not sure if there is one factory installed on my tablet until today) so this function is useless to me
Hmm it seems that the touch and hold adjustment worked for me so far. Nice find!
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Hi all, sorry my first post is asking for help, but I'm lost on this one.
It doesn't happen all the time, but I randomly get a dead spot on the bottom right corner of my phone.
It happens when I touch the app drawer, and the L key when I'm texting. It only randomly acknowledges I touched the screen.
Restarting the phone usually helps, but does that mean it's software or hardware?
Should I have it replaced?
Stock VZW Note II, no apps installed.
Ty for any and all help.
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It was replaced for a bad digitizer.
When using Multitouch visibility test, if you put more then 4 fingers on the screen, it locked up the phone requiring removal of the battery.
Perhaps instead of software, could it be heat?
It sounds like a dead/dying pixel to me. If it is only there on certain screens, then probably not, but if its there on say the boot screen or something, then I'd take it back.
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I'm sorry I should have been more specific.
It's not a screen blemish.
It's when I go to tough the screen.
Like if I hit the L key on the keyboard during a text message, it will only register a touch like 50% of the time.
Or if I touch the app drawer, I have to hit it multiple times to open it up.
The actual screen is perfect, no dead or stuck pixels at all.
LiTDiE said:
I'm sorry I should have been more specific.
It's not a screen blemish.
It's when I go to tough the screen.
Like if I hit the L key on the keyboard during a text message, it will only register a touch like 50% of the time.
Or if I touch the app drawer, I have to hit it multiple times to open it up.
The actual screen is perfect, no dead or stuck pixels at all.
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I'd return to Verizon, especially if you're not rooted so it won't be any trouble returning to stock etc.
It's probably mildly annoying to you now and it's only going to get worse over time. If there's no physical damage to the phone I don't see them giving you any trouble.
phind123 said:
I'd return to Verizon, especially if you're not rooted so it won't be any trouble returning to stock etc.
It's probably mildly annoying to you now and it's only going to get worse over time. If there's no physical damage to the phone I don't see them giving you any trouble.
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No damage at all, and I actually went through 3 screen protectors before I figured out it wasn't them.
Kinda bummed I have to drive 45 miles to return this damn thing though.
LiTDiE said:
No damage at all, and I actually went through 3 screen protectors before I figured out it wasn't them.
Kinda bummed I have to drive 45 miles to return this damn thing though.
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You don't. Call VZ and they will ship you another and give you a prepaid box to ship the old one back in.
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You don't. Call VZ and they will ship you another and give you a prepaid box to ship the old one back in.
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I actually called them, and they told me to just take it back to the store in case the replacement has issues.
Which is troubling to hear.
I have a youtube video demonstrating the problem, but I won't let me post it so ohwell.
Will have to wait til I get 10 posts.
Basically, using multitouch visibility test, I roll my finger around the bottom right corner while never lifting it off, and it won't recognise my trying to touch the specific spot.
After I life my finger and move it around the screen it will recognise the spot. It's very random.
Here's the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGl9RoBLpjA
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The youtube tags aren't working?
So what do you all think?
Hardware or software?
After further messing around in Multitouch Visibility test, I can replicate this all over the screen, but it's easiest to do at the bottom right corner where L shows up on the keyboard.
Do u have a case with any magnets on it?
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Jay A whY said:
Do u have a case with any magnets on it?
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That would only affect the S-Pen, from what I understand.
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Do u have a case with any magnets on it?
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Nah, it was a bad digitizer they said.
Whenever you put multiple fingers on screen, it would lock up, and require yanking the battery to reboot.
When you notice this are you holding the S-pen? I noticed if you get the pen near the screen (close enough for air hover to work) that the screen and buttons quit working to touch. For a little while I thought the home button was having problems, turned out the way I was holding the pen would result in it being placed near the screen when I hit the button.
Wyatt W.
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When you notice this are you holding the S-pen? I noticed if you get the pen near the screen (close enough for air hover to work) that the screen and buttons quit working to touch. For a little while I thought the home button was having problems, turned out the way I was holding the pen would result in it being placed near the screen when I hit the button.
Wyatt W.
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The main reason I noticed it was when I was texting.
Whenever I went to type words like sleep, or talk, they would be missing the letter L.
Or when I would go to open the app drawer, and it would only work half the time.
All while the pen was in the phone.
The lockup doesn't sound normal but as far as dead spots if you have a screen protector on have you tried removing it? Marginal screen protectors will cause touch input issues.
Let me start by saying that i bought this phone only 3 days ago and these are the problems I've found with it.
1. The Second screen back light issue. This is a common problem among many lg v10 users as i have noticed, and i have that same problem too. to the extreme left of the second display it is brighter than the rest but only when it is off. I do not find this very annoying since i do not use the second display for reading my notifications while it is off. i mostly use it when the screen is on
2. In addition to that, the power button/ fingerprint scanner combo is completely garbage, as in the actual clicking. the button seems loose and when i click it, it squeaks. Also, when i run my finger up and down the power button it wobbles and has the same annoying squeak.
3. The charging port is loose. Not so much that the cable could slide out not in that axis, but it moves side to side freely and up and down. this worries me because i think that if i put too much pressure on the cable the port could break somehow.
4. The steel bezels are nice and stuff but the gaps, are uneven at the bottom left, the metal bezel is like bent and you can easily see through it. also at the back when you pop in the cover it seems like it doesn't align with the bezel. but that might just be my ocd lol
This phone in my opinion is great the best phone I've had. but its just that these things are what let me down. This phone is great but they absolutely ruined it with the quality control. note* my batch is from January 15, 2016
U probably just got a bad one. Sometimes, they make it thru the quality control somehow. I would return it until u get the one ur satisfied with.
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youngpettyboi said:
U probably just got a bad one. Sometimes, they make it thru the quality control somehow. I would return it until u get the one ur satisfied with.
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Yeah I think I should but I'll wait until the weekend and decide if I should change it.
Probably a good idea. The flaws won't change. I have the lightbleed on the 2nd screen, but I never notice unless it's absolutely pitch black where I am and the screen is off. It doesn't annoy me tho.
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YMartin said:
This phone in my opinion is great the best phone I've had. but its just that these things are what let me down. This phone is great but they absolutely ruined it with the quality control. note* my batch is from January 15, 2016
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I like the phone, maybe I love it. I have the same problem with the residual light on the left of second screen. (phone batch 26 Oct.2015) But, what I dislike the most:
1. The lack of a LED on the front.
2. The second screen, about my opinion is useless until then a developer create an xposed apk for a flashing light on second screen when I loose a call.
3. The fingerprint sensor is useless too for me.
4. Volume of the speaker is not too loud.
But, I like the size and the shape of the phone. It is a catch eyes everywhere I go. Benchmarks are very good for a Snapdragon 808. The screen is very fluid. And the most, the camera and his software are great; you believe or not I compared in photoshop pictures from an expensive Sony semiprofessional DSLR camera with photos made with my V10 and the overall quality are quite the same. It's the best phone I ever had (and I had a lot of top level androids)
I don't want to change it, even on a G5!
H961 dual SIM, rooted, debloated.
The light bleed is a common issue, but everything else sounds like your phone was assembled incorrectly, you should exchange it
Okay so today I was wondering if I could find any more nit picky problems and noticed that the back cover did not sit flush with the buttons and that if I pushed it down it became flushnot a big issue but it bugs me when I'm turning up the volume or turning on the phone
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The light bleed is a common issue, but everything else sounds like your phone was assembled incorrectly, you should exchange it
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Well I exchanged a week ago and now that the time limit to return it is over, it cracked, not from a drop. It just cracked by itself there is a small hair line crack right by the metal rail and if is so annoying I paid good money and I take care of my phones well even if this was made to be tough. It cracked while I was in the car waiting for someone and then out of no where I heard a little pop and I thought nothing about it but after I finished watching the video I noticed it and got so scared I was like"did I drop it" but I did not idk how it managed to break I haven't dropped my phone yet and it just cracked out of nowhere
Here's a light review of the phone from Clove:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbFeUoVyT9Q&feature=youtu.be
Preorders up today as well.
Unboxing vid. Looks like they went with a nicer packaging this time.
VS. an iPhone 6 vid
VS. the Z5 Compact vid
i have bought yesterday the white x compact. unfortunately its a bit larger than the z3c. well im a bit disappointed but not because of the sd 650. the performance is quite good. its definately responsive and quick for a compact. but the bezel on the bottom is bigger than at the top. looks like a design fail. vibration motor is veeery strange imo. at start you dont feel him when typing but the faster you type the more the motor is vibrating. this behavior is very hard to accept. maybe for some people a minor thing but for me when i got used to my z3c this not ok. the whole left side beside the display has a gap between display and frame. on the right side there is no gap. dust and dirt wil again find a nice place there. this was the reason why i have replaced my white z3c with a black one after the motherboard was dead on the white one. it seems sony has not learned from their mistakes. fingerprint button has also gaps and looks like a bit deplaced but works very well. on the back side there you have gaps on top and bottom. i really do not understand sony. this phone costs 450€ and it seems they have no QA before packaging. camerawise i can see some improvements. focus is much faster than z3c. but the camera quality nowhere comparable to a galaxy s7. its ok but not that i would say wow. front cam is better than z3c. no softskin blur effect more but when it gets dark the front cam is not very good. generally i was expecting more from sonys camera system.
the best thing at this phone is the display. the black values and color reproduction is very good. looks like amoled but is probably a very good ips. but i think its displaying to much red. adjusting whitebalance helps. generally much better than z3c. due to the 2D glass curves it seems that display is almost printed regardless the 720p.
but there is also somehting that is causing me headache with the display. it seems that due to the curved glas the letter "P" is sometimes not very responsive. especially if you are trying to hit the letter from the right side throught the curved area of the display. from top no prob but from the side its sometimes not reacting. tested with google keyboard.
loudspeakers are a bit louder probably due to the lack of water resistance. they sound better.
the phone goes back as i have got massively used to have root. i'm still on kitkat with root and xposed and several changes through xposed. loosing all this to a non perfect phone makes no sense for 450€.
the biggest problem is that there are no smartphones at 4,6inch with good quality anymore. i was even thinking about iphone but no thanks. i dont want to be a slave of itunes and pay more than 750€ for a phone. SE is too small. z5c is overheating, bulky & too rectangle. A3 2016 is 4,7inch and therefor longer. could be ok. BUT it has no fuc*** notification LED. major fail by samsung as this is inacceptable in 2016. but generally the build quality by samsung has raised. the galaxy s7 in a size of 4,6inch would be perfect. im remembering the times with my galaxy s1. fantastic phone and it was undestroyable. well if you have any questions you can ask me until i have still the phone. currently im thinking of testing an s7. but i hate to to do strange things with my thumb just to be able to reach the back button on the bottom of the phone. the s4 mini was perfect size.
So you are returning the phone?
I will give this phone a try but your build quality comments concern me. I should have it this week, so I'm hoping I get a good one. Does the plastic, glossy shell feel as cheap as it looks?
True, it's sad that these phones are the only game in the 4.6" size. I kinda don't consider the 4.6" iPhone in this size class because its just as big as a 5" screen phone because of the home button. I'm hoping Samsung comes out with an S7 mini which I would get in a heartbeat.
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So you are returning the phone?
I will give this phone a try but your build quality comments concern me. I should have it this week, so I'm hoping I get a good one. Does the plastic, glossy shell feel as cheap as it looks?
True, it's sad that these phones are the only game in the 4.6" size. I kinda don't consider the 4.6" iPhone in this size class because its just as big as a 5" screen phone because of the home button. I'm hoping Samsung comes out with an S7 mini which I would get in a heartbeat.
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try it. the plastic glossy shell is not the problem. its nice to look at, looks a bit like ceramic and not so slippery as i thought but the build quality is again not the best. i hate the unsymetric gaps between frame. they just cant place the display equally into the frame. on the black (which is not true black, its more dark blue) you wont see them so much as on the white one.
i was hoping for a s7mini but it seems that samsung has changed the mini series into the A3 line which is really sad unfortunately in the stores theres always the anti thief thing on the back which prevents to get true feeling of the normal S7. i need to test if a S7 would somehow be operational with one hand for me. but i dont think so. :/
the display of my z3c is peeling of on the top left edge which was the reason iw as looking for a different phone. i need to repair this. sony would need to much time for this.
x10isrooted said:
..vibration motor is veeery strange imo. at start you dont feel him when typing but the faster you type the more the motor is vibrating. this behavior is very hard to accept...
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i didn't realize that with swift key. but you are right. if you set to system vibration you have that issue. but me, i am using swift key where you can set you individual vibration duration and that works like a charm.
x10isrooted said:
the whole left side beside the display has a gap between display and frame. on the right side there is no gap...
fingerprint button has also gaps and looks like a bit deplaced...
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on my xxc the gaps are all the same size and nothing is deplaced.
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..but there is also somehting that is causing me headache with the display. it seems that due to the curved glas the letter "P" is sometimes not very responsive. especially if you are trying to hit the letter from the right side throught the curved area of the display. from top no prob but from the side its sometimes not reacting. tested with google keyboard.
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can't confirm that too.
the 'p' works just fine. (swift key)
x10isrooted said:
the phone goes back as i have got massively used to have root. i'm still on kitkat with root and xposed and several changes through xposed. loosing all this to a non perfect phone makes no sense for 450€.
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i hope, root is just a question of time. i hope very soon. can't wait for it to make all my customisations i am used to.
i found a way posted here but its written so weird. i dont know if its reliable.
http://www.sadroid.com/root-sony-xperia-x-compact-5-minutes/
the individual vibration is the same. the often and quicker you are pressing a button the more the motor of the vibrator gets crazy. sound like a bee on Speed.
You must try to press the letter p probably from the right side. a bit through the curved glass. the galaxy s7 and z3 compact touchscreen is much more responsive and sensitive. for me it was often not reacting when i was not thinking to touch more precisely in the middle of the letter P. maybe a defect on my device but i think the whole touchscreen production will be affected by this. i have tested the Xperia X and it has the same behavior. i will have to test another device in store if this is the case there as well.
this website is untrusted. dont download anything from that. you will get a virus. nothing else. when a root is availbale someone will for sure post it here first. but i doubt that it will be soon. x compact has not the best specs. all the famous and talented devs have other phones currently. xxz0o was the person that developed a root for z3c after half a year i think.
ok. now i found the issue with the vibration. your duration seems to be set pretty long. i set it to 35ms and that works absolutely fine. but if you set it to f.e. 60ms you have that issue. but why would you like to have it that long?
i mean its obvious that it can be a prob. if your next press is in the range of the 60ms there is no other way for the phone to vibrate permanently. are other phones adjusting the vibration if you press faster than the setted duration?
but i am a slow writer. maybe i will never understand that problem. i just found that issue while pressing complete randomly on the keyboard. i could never write that fast.
jeah, as i thaught. the page is very weird. i would also only try a root from a page i know pretty good.
ohh. half a year? thats sad. but hope never dies.
i like the phone. maybe there are some others
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try it. the plastic glossy shell is not the problem. its nice to look at, looks a bit like ceramic and not so slippery as i thought but the build quality is again not the best. i hate the unsymetric gaps between frame. they just cant place the display equally into the frame. on the black (which is not true black, its more dark blue) you wont see them so much as on the white one.
i was hoping for a s7mini but it seems that samsung has changed the mini series into the A3 line which is really sad unfortunately in the stores theres always the anti thief thing on the back which prevents to get true feeling of the normal S7. i need to test if a S7 would somehow be operational with one hand for me. but i dont think so. :/
the display of my z3c is peeling of on the top left edge which was the reason iw as looking for a different phone. i need to repair this. sony would need to much time for this.
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The S7 mini would be perfect, but it will never be created. The S7 is about the same size as the iPhone 6, so if any of your friends have one, just try using it and you'll quickly realize how much harder it is to reach the top of the phone with your thumb. I'm sticking with my Z3C for another year to see if anyone (not just Sony) releases a 4.5-4.7" flagship device. The XC just doesn't meet my expectations for an "upgrade".
Phone Arena review:
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xperia-X-Compact-Review_id4256
The AndroidCentral Review is up, one note the lack of a fingerprint scanner is US only, the rest of the world has the fingerprint scanner available!
http://m.androidcentral.com/sony-xperia-x-compact
All of these first reviews to be released seem to be very shallow in depth. They don't go into any real analysis of the phone and use very general statements to describe the user experience. In fact, these read more like unboxings than actual reviews. There's a lot of talk about what the phone looks like, the specs it comes with, and way too much of it sounds like they're reading a press release. If I was in the market for a new device. I'd wait another month for real reviews to be released.
Android Authority review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uullDQFq5W0
I sure do not have those build quality issues. gaps?! display is dead flush, heck everything is. I am very impressed with the build quality, very sturdy. I do not have trouble with coming in from the right and typing 'p' either, but if you display is not flush it would probably influence it. I am more than sure you were unlucky and got a bad apple (heh). as for the key vibration issue; if you type faster than the vibration delay is set, you are of cause going to have it vibrate all the time while typing, odd btw that you guys was set to 60ms mine was set to 25ms as default.
Hey everyone, just wanted some feedback regarding an issue I began having this week with my X Compact.
Issue: The phone is not as responsive during the unlocking process as it once was. I used to simply swipe to unlock and the phone would immediately unlock with a simple swiping motion. Now, the phone requires a harder swipe before it unlocks.
Any ideas?
I've been seeing my taps show up as swipes on my touchscreen. Would you guys mind downloading touchscreen test, setting the zoom to 0%, and tapping around like you're typing on your keyboard? On my other phones all the taps show up as dots, but on a few of the Pixel 6 devices I've tried, like 20% of the time they are show up as small swipes.
link to the app here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.rallwell.siriuth.touchscreentest
see the small swipes happening here: https://gfycat.com/agreeablepertinentarachnid
The app hasn't been updated in nearly a year, maybe that could be an issue. But I don't have any touchscreen issues so perhaps someone else can help more.
bobby janow said:
The app hasn't been updated in nearly a year, maybe that could be an issue. But I don't have any touchscreen issues so perhaps someone else can help more.
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The app not being updated isn't an issue. I think most people don't think they have issues with the touchscreen, but it just may not be very apparent to them. That's why I wanted people to just try it and report back. It's definitely super janky on every P6 I've tried, even the ones in store, making me think its widespread.
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I've been seeing my taps show up as swipes on my touchscreen. Would you guys mind downloading touchscreen test, setting the zoom to 0%, and tapping around like you're typing on your keyboard? On my other phones all the taps show up as dots, but on a few of the Pixel 6 devices I've tried, like 20% of the time they are show up as small swipes.
link to the app here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.rallwell.siriuth.touchscreentest
see the small swipes happening here: https://gfycat.com/agreeablepertinentarachnid
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I've noticed that as well and always thought I was just ... doing it wrong lol. Sometimes a simple tap will bring down QS or my side launcher. Sometimes a tap does nothing at all and I have to tap an icon or widget 2-3 times before the Pixel agrees to do whatever it is that tap was supposed to do.
Then again I do use an "unsupported" tempered glass screen protector, so I'm inclined to think that's the reason.
I have also seen this and am not sure if the problem is due to the screen protector that i use (not one of the officially approved ones) or the software being still a little buggy or both in combination. It happens rarely enough to not bother me much.
So I loaded the app, got my magnifier out, and tried it. I have fat fingers and it seemed to go alright. If I touched it for too long there was a tiny swipe but then I corrected my touches and almost all were dots. Itsy bitsy swipes now and again but nothing that was super obvious as a flaw. I see a ton of little dots, where are your dots?
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So I loaded the app, got my magnifier out, and tried it. I have fat fingers and it seemed to go alright. If I touched it for too long there was a tiny swipe but then I corrected my touches and almost all were dots. Itsy bitsy swipes now and again but nothing that was super obvious as a flaw. I see a ton of little dots, where are your dots?
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It just depends on the size of the itsy bitsy swipes that show up. For example mine are attached. I feel that these are too big and cause issue with the with tapping sometimes.
And actually I feel it's even worse when tapping with my index finger.
Seems good to me, I mean I got some micro swipes but I'm sure that because I swipe my finger a tiny bit.
You can't even see the dots on my 3 XL with 0 to 100 but zero swipes registered.
(I had made a post before where I didn't follow instructions so I edited all of it out and did it right).
Sure seems like a hardware issue to me.
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You can't even see the dots on my 3 XL with 0 to 100 but zero swipes registered.
(I had made a post before where I didn't follow instructions so I edited all of it out and did it right).
Sure seems like a hardware issue to me.
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thanks, it'd be good to see what other pixel 6 users see
Now that you say it, I'm pretty sure I'm experiencing the same, that would be why sometimes I have the feeling my commands are not registered. I don't know if it's software or hardware, I believe it could be easily fixed with software (a bit like a palm rejection feature, to ignore tiny slides)
I had similar experience. Once noticed my mind started exaggerating it I believe. Because I also have the same challenges with touch on my Galaxy S10 work phone. For me at least I think it's me not the P6. Will certainly try the app on both phones this weekend.
I have a completely different issue that I was suspecting for some time now. Taps don't register on the lower corners of the screen. I have to squeeze it to register. Swiping though at the same areas is working fine.
derausgewanderte said:
I had similar experience. Once noticed my mind started exaggerating it I believe. Because I also have the same challenges with touch on my Galaxy S10 work phone. For me at least I think it's me not the P6. Will certainly try the app on both phones this weekend.
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I mean, from your signature, it looks like you've gone through alot of phones. How could it be you, not the P6 if you've never experienced this before on anything other than your S10?
Mg213 said:
I mean, from your signature, it looks like you've gone through alot of phones. How could it be you, not the P6 if you've never experienced this before on anything other than your S10?
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I only have the P6 for a couple of months. The only other phone I currently have and rarely use is the S10 and I can only make a comparison to that. Or in other words, this might have been there all along and I never paid attention to it.
arvylas said:
I have a completely different issue that I was suspecting for some time now. Taps don't register on the lower corners of the screen. I have to squeeze it to register. Swiping though at the same areas is working fine.
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Yeah now that you mention it my lower corners don't respond either
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Yeah now that you mention it my lower corners don't respond either
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I haven't had a phone since the P3 that responds on the lower corners all the time. I've learned to live with it since it's really not all that bad and it's not always. I mean this is a mass produced phone and I'm sure all devices have little quirks like this. It's not a lunar landing module that needs nano second response it's just a phone. I find that if I obsess over the small stuff I won't enjoy the device and I really don't want to do that. That being said, I do understand what you're going after and your upset. I'm just not there.
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I haven't had a phone since the P3 that responds on the lower corners all the time. I've learned to live with it since it's really not all that bad and it's not always. I mean this is a mass produced phone and I'm sure all devices have little quirks like this. It's not a lunar landing module that needs nano second response it's just a phone. I find that if I obsess over the small stuff I won't enjoy the device and I really don't want to do that. That being said, I do understand what you're going after and your upset. I'm just not there.
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For sure. The device is fast but it feels like a step backward from all my previous phones in terms of usability since I find I often have to tap things twice or doesn't respond to touch the way I expect it to. To me this is completely unexpected. I guess most people just don't notice these issues and so if that's the case, it's never going to be fixed. I just want Google to do right but I give up. Moving on to Samsung or iphone now.
Thanks for providing the info all, I was thinking of downgrading from a Pixel 6 pro to the 6. Although the screen on the 6 pro is curve I have the exact same issue. Never experienced this on my past pixels.