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Description:
Goomeo is real life sharing software that use a new p2p technology based on Wi-fi. Available in French and English.
This application is still in beta, so please leave your feedback, requests & bug reports.
Features:
Goomeo automatically detects other mobiles around you and lets you transfer files (unlimited size), contacts or send each other text or voice messages from mobile to mobile Wi-Fi. In addition it lets you interact with your friends on your social networks (twitter, facebook) by sending your status or your location (gps).
You have also access to your feed on the web site.
Bug fix:
GPS device off
Add some message box
Translation
New features:
Invite friends
Requirements:
Touch Screen ( 240x320, 240x400, 480x640, 480x800)
.NET Framework 3.5
Wifi device
anyone want to test it?
This does look interesting, thank you very much for your gift and effort.
I will try and play with it after work and let you know my feedback.
Keep up the good work
Hi
Does it require the other device to have Gomeo too in order to share ?
YES other devices around you must have Goomeo to share files...
Thank you for the answer, for the sharing and for the work
Good luck
Hi,
We search for more users to test our app on differents devices.
Thanks
it seems to b e a nice thing, is there a part for sharing files to pc ?
we plan to offer a version for Windows laptop and netbook
the 1.1 will be release very soon with great features
Cool idea
Reminds me a little bit of Dropbox, when folders are shared - even it's totally different to it
I like the setup GUI. Hope to try it with my pal, soon!
no non-touchscreen v. planned?
im dying to find a usable P2P program for my htc ozone. if u come out with a non touchscreen version, pm me and i would be more than happy to test it.
Update 1.01
@zorgan
I wonder, how you want to release it for Android, if there is root needed for enabling WiFi ad-hoc mode? Will it be for rooters only?
@Brut.all
I know the "issue 82" on Android. First i release for root users and if google decide to correct this issue it will be available for all on Android.
I work on the same time on BB and Nokia device and it works fine
been looking for something like this..will try it out on a HTC Jade and see...my main use is to be able to transfer files from one device to another...
WMDreamRemote (WMDR) - with streaming
UPDATE (22/04/2012): No more deadlines. The reason is that I am busy with other projects. I might implement other features in future. You can download from my web-site, http://www.tillekesoft.com. There you can find as usual two versions. One version is for devices using 320x240 but it should work fine also with devices having a resolution of 640x480. For all other resolutions, please use the other one. For existing users, you just need to replace the old executable with the new one.
06/10/2010 - I have attached a "step-by-step"-guide for setting up WMDR - in particular what regards streaming (it is in English but you can use Google Translation-tools to translate it to another language). Hopefully, this will make it easier for new users to get WMDR working.
IMPORTANT (22/06/2010) - I just tested the new version of VLC no. 1.1.0 and it seems like WMDR is not compatibile with the latest version of VLC. So if you want to use WMDR, please ensure to use VLC 1.0.5 or earlier until I have resolved this issue.
Change-log: nothing so I am leaving old change-log here below:
This version is more like a Service-Release fixing some bugs and introducing few new features:
-fixed issue when using WMDR with Enigma2 outside your LocalLAN where WMDR passed on a DynDNS-address to the Dreambox instead of LocalIP-address which is the correct way. Thanks to mkbm for finding this bug.
-fixed streaming-issue in Enigma2 when changing between channels located on different transpoders would cause problems. Thanks to mkbm for explaining this.
-improved error-handling (clearer messages). Still to be improved further.
-possibility to kill stream when exiting WMDR
-other minor bug-fixes
-some optimization
-added a program-icon (it's very basic - if you can come up with a better-looking icon, please do so and post it here in the thread)
-fixed issue with DM8000
To see WMDR in action (using a pre-release of Beta 0.7), watch this video posted by XDA-user ajocius on YouTube:
Background: After on-going discussions in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=616353 regarding an application to control remotely the Dreambox, I decided to write an application to accomplish this request.
In above thread, a very simple and crude beta-application was posted. Now, the application has evolved further and therefore I reckoned it was more appropriate to open a new thread in this area which is meant for Window Mobile applications.
Extra Information: The Dreambox is a series of Linux-powered DVB satellite, terrestrial and cable digital television receivers (set-top box), produced by German multimedia vendor Dream Multimedia. It's "kind of" of open-source which has led many "teams" to develop so called "images" for this receiver as an alternative to the original one furnished by Dream Multimedia. In addition, many other hardware manufactures have produced their own receivers (some of them are actually clones while others are not) using the same concept of the Dreambox i.e. Linux-powered. The Dreambox has evolved during the years and many models are present on the market. The first ones are/were using a firmware called "Enigma" but, more or less, with the introduction of High Definition TV, a new firmware was released, namely "Enigma2". One of the "revolutionary" features of the Dreambox was that you can connect it to your local network and this opened up a whole new word compared to ordinary satellite-receivers. To get further information, just google for Dreambox or look it up at Wikipedia.
Background for the application: You can read the original thread mentioned above to get an idea why people wanted an application like the one I am releasing. In a few words: since you can access the Dreambox (or any other satellite-receiver based on Enigma or Enigma2) through your local network or through Internet, there are many things you can do remotely (at work for instance) such as handling timer-events, read EPG etc. The ideal way of doing it, especially if you don't have access to a PC, is to use a handheld device. It was brought to our attention, that there are plenty of applications to do what mentioned above already available for download on the Appstore for iPhone.
for instance:
http://appspace.com/apps/view/38502/idreamremote/
http://appspace.com/apps/view/40338/dreamon/
So, it was suggested to write a similar application for Windows Mobile. And here it is, still in beta although with quite a lot of features implemented, even Streaming-support.
Current Features:
-Streaming
-Remote Control
-Bouquets-/Channels-lists from where you can:
1) change channel
2) view EPG
3) set timers
-Controlling the receiver (Shutdown, Reboot etc)
-Supports set-up of multiple profiles (e.g. At work, home, bedroom)
-Supports set-up of multiple streaming-profiles (Local LAN, WLAN, mobile)
Known issues:
-is not compatible yet with old WebIf (1st generation) of Enigma2
-there might be some problems with certain characters not appearing correctly (please report if you have this problem)
-in 320x240 version when setting up Enigma-profiles, you might need to click twice in the various textboxes.
Features to implement in upcoming versions (not necessarily in this order):
- SMS (Send shortmessages to the TV-Screen)
- improve error handling further
- other ideas/stuff
- user-suggestions (your feedback for improvements)
- re-design the remote-control using png-images instead of jpg which should make the application a bit smaller (and require less memory)
- resolving above mentioned issues
- other bug-fixes
- support for other receivers - requests I have received are for D-box2 and IPBox HD (non Enigma)
- cosmetic issues
- Https (SSL) support. (tested and working but needs a specific hotfix-version of CF.NET (published by Microsoft) due to a bug in CF.NET)
Requirements:
-Compact Net Framework (2.0 should be sufficient)
-an Enigma-based receiver such as the Dreambox, IPBox etc..
-for streaming, please see second post below
Installation:
Note: I have not made any CAB-file.
Note2: If you want to keep your old settings and streaming-profiles, you may do so. Just replace the old WMDreamRemote.exe with the new one.
1) download the zip-file attached to this post and extract the files on your computer.
2) Copy the files into a directory of your choice on your device (internal or
storage). The files must be in the same directory.
3) Run WMDreamRemote.exe. The first time, you will get a message
saying "No connection....".
4) Choose Preferences/Profiles from the main-screen and ADD a new
profile inserting your data. Put the flag on default for the profile you use the most.
5) Then click Save Profile.
6) Go ahead if you wish to add other profiles.
7) You may delete my dummy-profile "home" (only after having added your own though) using
the Del-button. NOTE: It's important that there is always one profile present (with Default selected)
otherwise there might be unexpected errors
8) On the main-screen, you can now use the remote-control by selecting its button
9) You may also see a bouquet/channel list by clicking on its button. However, the first time the list will be empty. Therefore,
10). Go back to Preferences/Profiles and select the profile you want to use. Now select the
button named "Create Bouquets for this profile". This will take a minute or two. It will download
your bouquets and channels from your Dreambox. Do the same for each Profile you create.
11) Now you can scroll your bouquets ad channels.
12) Set up streaming-profiles (3 dummy profiles are provided for Local-LAN, WLAN and mobile) - see second post for more information
There might be some unhandled error-messages occasionally. They are mostly due to connection-problems. Just click on continue and retry unless you have indeed a permanent error with your connection.
Please test it and let me have your error-reports, feedback and suggestions for improvements. Please also indicate which device, Dreambox (or similar receiver) you are using and which image.
I must also express my sincerest thanks to XDA-user ajocius for:
-giving me access to Enigma2,
-his superb beta-testing,
-sharing his knowledge about streaming
-and of course for the great video he posted on YouTube (see above).
I have also attached some screenshots.
PS: ANDROID - Just a note to tell you that I posted here on XDA an Android-application for watching your Dreambox in streaming (LocalLAN and 3G). I called the application AndroidDreamer and you can find the thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861145
If you want to test and discuss AndroidDreamer, head over to the thread. Please keep this thread for WMDR.
PS2: WINDOWS - I have published a Windows-version (WinDreamRemote or simply WinDR). You can find it on my web-site: http://www.tillekesoft.com
For discussions regarding WinDR, please use the thread mentioned on my web-site. This thread here at XDA is for WMDR - mobile version. Please respect this.
This is it for the time being.
STREAMING
Streaming works great for me, especially at home (in my Local LAN) but also at work (using WIFI) and even at the supermarket using a mobile-connection (3G) although the quality degrades.
For you, I don't know - Streaming may work, may work so and so or may not work at all.
It depends on a lot of factors:
-For Local-LAN: your WIFI set-up at home (11g, 54g etc)
-For WLAN or mobile: upload/download speed of your Broadband (normally upload-speeds are slower than download-speeds (ADSL)
-Your device
-Your computer acting as VLC-server
-not finding the right configuration in stream-profiles settings
-etc
What you need:
1) VLC (Videolan). Just Google for it and install it on your computer which will act as the VLC-server. I have only tested streaming using VLC running on Windows but it should work on VLC-servers using Linux and MAC as well. If it doesn't, please let me know. I have only tested version 1.0.5 of VLC so I am unable to say if previous versions will work.
UPDATE (22/06/2010) - I just tested the new version of VLC no. 1.1.0 and it seems like WinDR is not compatibile with the latest version of VLC. So if you want to use WinDR, please ensure to use VLC 1.0.5 or earlier until I have resolved this issue.
2) TCPMP (free and which you can find here on XDA) or Coreplayer (not free). Make sure that ASX-files are opened by the program you installed (look in the programs' settings for file-association). Some say that TCPMP is faster to load the stream (5-6 seconds in my Local-LAN) than Coreplayer. On the other hand, some say that Coreplayer is more fluid. The choice is yours.
3) A rather modern and fast device. It might work with slower devices as well but you may have to play a lot with your VLC-configuration (bitrate etc) before you get it to work
4) and of course WMDR
How to set up everything:
1) install VLC on your computer which will act as the VLC (streaming) -server. Then under the menu, select "View" in the English version (not sure since I have it in Italian) and then select "Add Interface" and finally you select "Add Telnet-interface". If you haven't changed anything, the default password for Telnet is admin and the port in use is 4212. That's it. VLC must be running to get streaming working. There are options to install VLC as a Windows Service or you can create a bat-file to be executed upon launch of your VLC-server. I guess similar options are availabe on Linux and MAC as well.
2) if you are going to use streaming outside your Local-LAN, you must ensure that you have set up port-forwarding correctly in your router. You must ensure that the WebIf can be accessed. You must ensure also that port 4212 (for Telnet) is opened and forwarded to the VLC-server. The same goes also for the streaming-port on the VLC-server which TCPMP/Coreplayer needs to access to receive the stream. So, basically you need to set up port-forwarding for one port for accessing the WebIf of your Dreambox and two ports for accessing your VLC-server.
3) A typical VLC-command to get streaming going is as follows:
Code:
vlc.exe" -vvv [url]http://192.168.1.130:31339/0,0025,0384,0385,0295[/url] --sout #transcode{vcodec=MP4V,vb=384,scale=0,5,acodec=mp3,ab=64,channels=1,deinterlace}:Duplicate{dst=std{access=HTTP,mux=ASF,dst=192.168.1.12:8085}}
Here are some explanations:
- the part "vlc.exe" is handled by WMDR using Telnet. You don't need to anything except for filling in information regarding the IP-address of your VLC-server, its password and which port to use.
- the part
Code:
"http://192.168.1.130:31339/0,0025,0384,0385,0295"
is your dreambox-ip, the port used for streaming and some channel-parameters. These parameters are handled automatically by WMDR and do not require your attention
- the part
Code:
"#transcode{vcodec=MP4V,vb=384,scale=0,5,acodec=mp3,ab=64,channels=1,deinterlace}:Duplicate{dst=std{access=HTTP,mux=ASF,dst="
is the one you have to insert in WMDR and which you need to experiment with to get the best picture/quality/fluidity according to your connection-speed. WMDR is pre-installed with 3 examples which are working on my HD2, my WIFI (using 54g) and my ADSL with an upload speed of 512kb. You can use those as an example and then modify them according to your needs.
- the part "192.168.1.12:8085" is the IP of your VLC-server and the port which TCPMP/Coreplayer should connect to in order to get the stream. You fill in this information in the stream-profiles.
With this information, you can set up your streaming-profiles in WMDR. In the streaming-profiles, you will find an additional setting called "VLC Sleep Delay". You can leave it at 200ms as its default-value. This parameter is used by WMDR when "talking to" VLC via Telnet. If the connection is very slow, you can increase this value but normally, even on Mobile-connections, the value of 200ms is OK.
Above information should get you going.
If you have problems with streaming, look at the points mentioned above since it is unlikely due to WMDR itself and that I can do anything to resolve your problems.
Good luck!
TIPS AND TRICKS:
-To make TCPMP open up automatically in full screen mode, you can do the following registry-edit:
Code:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\TCPMP\PLAY
DWORD 123
Change value from 0 to 1
-For associating the file-extension ASX with TCPMP, do as follows: In TCPMP it is under:
Options -> Settings (you need to scroll down to see that option) - > Click button "Select Page" - > File Associacions
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-As far as I have understood, TCPMP has been discontinued but there are some people updating it from time to time. If you have problems viewing the stream, it may (perhaps) be because you are using an old version of TCPMP. Here are two links to TCPMP which I have found working on my HD2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5657963&postcount=1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5685536&postcount=1
TROUBLESHOOTING
- If you get errors in TCPMP (unknown file format, crashes) or if you don't see anything at all, you can try the following to trace where the error originates:
Select Stream in WMDR and if you get an error message from TCPMP, just disregard the error and put your device on the table or wherever. Don't click on anything. Don't kill the stream. Now, in the folder of WMDR on the device, you should find a file called WMDR.asx. Copy this file to your desktop (on a PC). Go to your PC and right-click on WMDR.asx and choose "open with" and select VLC (it will open another session of VLC). If you now can see the stream from your Dreambox on your computer-screen, then it means that WMDR comunicates correctly with VLC and most likely there is a problem with TCPMP/Coreplayer or because the file is too large/complex to be seen on the device. If you don't see anything, then probably there is a communication-problem between WMDR and VLC. Check IP-address, Port and Password of VLC.
- Make sure that streaming actually works between your Dreambox and VLC (without using WMDR) and that you can watch the streams on your computer. You can test this by using the web-interface of your Dreambox or you can search internet for instructions. If you have problems (can't see anything at all, bad quality, buffering-problems etc), then the problem itself lies with the source and there is no way streaming will work in a satisfying way. For instance, it has been reported that cheap (clones of) DM500 might have problems with streaming.
is this like a remote control app for any settop boxes and tv's that uses ir port or is it limited to the Dreambox?
Sorry - it's not using an ir port.
The application controls the receiver through the receiver's web-interface or through telnet.
However, the application could probably be used with (and modified to support) other types of receivers as long as there is a way to communicate with the receiver via local network, wifi, data-connections or Internet. If anyone is interested, please let me know.
trickbiker121 said:
is this like a remote control app for any setop boxes and tv's that uses ir port or is it limited to the Dreambox?
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tilleke said:
Sorry - it's not using an ir port.
The application controls the receiver through the receiver's web-interface or through telnet.
However, the application could probably be used with (and modified to support) other types of receivers as long as there is a way to communicate with the receiver via local network, wifi, data-connections or Internet. If anyone is interested, please let me know.
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sorry this isnt the app that i thought it was sorry to bother you
Hi Tilleke
Very nice looking release. I'm really happy with it!
i have tested it and here are my results:
Main screen > remote controle > page 2 > the numbers are not working here.
Main screen > preferences > Create bouguets > This option crashed my dreambox with a blue screen like windows always do...
Remember this is NOT a comment, this is only to help you with this great app!
Great Job, keep going... and i will be waiting till next release.
Thanks for testing and posting your results.
Can you please let me know which receiver you have and which image you are running. And on which device did you test it?
Will check this better.
citychannel said:
Main screen > remote controle > page 2 > the numbers are not working here..
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When creating the bouquets, did you follow the procedure written in the first post? I am saying this since that part is not fool-proof yet. Did you reach the point when a message appears indicating "Update ready" or did it crash before. BTW: I have never seen a crashed dreambox with a blue screen I'd love to able to reproduce that error
citychannel said:
Main screen > preferences > Create bouguets > This option crashed my dreambox with a blue screen like windows always do.....
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Thanks!!
citychannel said:
Remember this is NOT a comment, this is only to help you with this great app!
Great Job, keep going... and i will be waiting till next release.
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Hi there
1) I have a dreambox 7025 with enigma on it
2) i didn't saw ' update ready' the DM crashed 4 seonds after i pressed the 'Create Bouquets for this profile'
A new 'bug' i found is the time out bug. This error appears randomly after zapping between channels or using the volume buttons.
Good luck and thanks!
thanks for your report.
1) OK, you've got DM7025 and running Enigma(1). Are you using the original image or have you flashed another image such as Gemini, Nabilo...If yes, which one?
2) Can you access the WebIf of the DM7025 using your local network and using a normal web-browser? In your browser, you should use:
Code:
http://ip-address of DM7025:port
it should then ask you for a user-name and password, normally root and dreambox.
example:
Code:
http://192.168.0.83:8888
If you are using the standard port (80), it could also be:
Code:
http://192.168.0.83
When you are connected to the WebIf and clicking on ZAP, can you see your bouquets and channels?
3) The time-out bug: What message do you get. Can you please transcribe it? Does this happen when you are connected using WIFI or when you are connected using the data-connection of your phone-provider?
4) what device are you using?
Sorry, but I need above information otherwise I really don't see how to track down the errors you mentioned since I can't reproduce them on my system/device.
PS: I confirm that the numbers on the 2nd screen don't work. I forgot to enable a few lines in my code. Will be corrected in next version. Thanks for finding out.
citychannel said:
Hi there
1) I have a dreambox 7025 with enigma on it
2) i didn't saw ' update ready' the DM crashed 4 seonds after i pressed the 'Create Bouquets for this profile'
A new 'bug' i found is the time out bug. This error appears randomly after zapping between channels or using the volume buttons.
Good luck and thanks!
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Hi, working on my hd2 with dreambox 7000 S (gemini 4.6).
But one issue: The programm can´t display the german letters ä, ö and ü (in programm-list and bouquets)
Glad it works.
Thanks for reporting the problem with the German letters. This probably means it would be a problem with other characters as well. I will check this issue and see if I can correct it in next release.
Bib_x said:
Hi, working on my hd2 with dreambox 7000 S (gemini 4.6).
But one issue: The programm can´t display the german letters ä, ö and ü (in programm-list and bouquets)
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Can you add support for modacos´s apptodate?
http://www.modaco.com/category/332/apptodate/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327990
Hi Tilleke,
1) Im running Enigma with Gemini on it
2) Yes i’m using Webif and i can zap normally without lag or error (192.168.1.12), so port 80
3) I am using a WIFI connection and after 2 or 3 times pressing downwards in bouquets it comes with this error:
An error occurred on sub_modcommon_executeurl
Response code -1
Timeout
Continue?
4) i am using a HTC TD2 with WM6,1 pro
Thanks in advance
The num pad on second screen isn´t working. Only the buttons on bottom (tv, radio, text, help) are working.
Thx for the suggestion. I'll see what can I do.
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Can you add support for modacos´s apptodate?
http://www.modaco.com/category/332/apptodate/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327990
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Yep. Already reported by citychannel. See first post under known issues.
Bib_x said:
The num pad on second screen isn´t working. Only the buttons on bottom (tv, radio, text, help) are working.
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Thx for the information. This will facilitate tracking down the error and how to resolve it.
citychannel said:
Hi Tilleke,
1) Im running Enigma with Gemini on it
2) Yes i’m using Webif and i can zap normally without lag or error (192.168.1.12), so port 80
3) I am using a WIFI connection and after 2 or 3 times pressing downwards in bouquets it comes with this error:
An error occurred on sub_modcommon_executeurl
Response code -1
Timeout
Continue?
4) i am using a HTC TD2 with WM6,1 pro
Thanks in advance
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Thanks for your work
im a db fanatic and currently working on e2 image let me know if you need any help.
One small request:
Would be possible in future release to add a DyNdnS address facility ?
It already works...
I have a profile called "away" which I use to set timer-events when I am not at home. Set up a new profile and in the IP-address-field, just write your DynDNS-address and in the Port-field the port you are using.
You might, of course, need to enable portforwarding in your router-settings.
Hope this helps.
^^MeX^^ said:
Thanks for your work
im a db fanatic and currently working on e2 image let me know if you need any help.
One small request:
Would be possible in future release to add a DyNdnS address facility ?
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A little bit offtopic:
Do you know which ports i have to forward in my router if i want to stream my dreambox-tv-program over internet with vlc?
Streaming in LAN works well, but i want to watch TV outside my home, too.
Hi all, I've been using WM since ages.
The X10 mini pro is tempting me to commit hersy and buy and android phone
May you help me with some questions I have:
- Is a FULL file explorer preloaded ??
- Can I download/EDIT/save office docs ??
- Can I hot auto check my hotmail ??
- A win live mesenger is present ??
- Can I easily change the UI or is it "closed" ?? (sort of the xperia "panels")
THANKS in advance
gtrab said:
Hi all, I've been using WM since ages.
The X10 mini pro is tempting me to commit hersy and buy and android phone
May you help me with some questions I have:
- Is a FULL file explorer preloaded ??
- Can I download/EDIT/save office docs ??
- Can I hot auto check my hotmail ??
- A win live mesenger is present ??
- Can I easily change the UI or is it "closed" ?? (sort of the xperia "panels")
THANKS in advance
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Hey
1. there is no file manger installed but you can download one from marked
2. you can buy doc to go then you can edit doc
3. you with exchange
4. there is many good msn apps in marked
5. you can use any home's from marked like adw launcher
gtrab said:
Hi all, I've been using WM since ages.
The X10 mini pro is tempting me to commit hersy and buy and android phone
May you help me with some questions I have:
- Is a FULL file explorer preloaded ??
- Can I download/EDIT/save office docs ??
- Can I hot auto check my hotmail ??
- A win live mesenger is present ??
- Can I easily change the UI or is it "closed" ?? (sort of the xperia "panels")
THANKS in advance
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Following on from the previous answer
1) Not pre-installed, but you can easily download and install a free one directly from the Market (i.e from the phone itself) - ASTRO File Manager and ES File Explorer are two good ones, but there are plenty to choose from
2) Again, not pre-installed, but you can download a free app called "Documents to Go" that will let you read office docs. http://www.dataviz.com/ - You'll need to buy the full version (currently $15) to be able to edit docs too
3) Googling suggests that you can probably make it work using pop3 - I don't use hotmail, so I can't try it out
4) Nothing pre-installed, but there are lots on the market. I'm currently using Trillian which works nicely (free beta, will probably become a paid app)
5) Yes - there are lots of alternative launchers, so if you're not happy with the S.E. "4 corners" homescreen, you can easily switch for another one - most of these are free, too
So, it sounds like you might have to fork out some cash to be able to do everything you want
I use maildroid for all my email accounts including Hotmail. Just download it for free in market
Sent from my rooted X10 mini PRO using XDA App
THANKS for your replies.
Let me see if I get it right:
OK so Android looks like a different approach (more iPhone-esque than pocketPC-esque) but able to expand to more advanced capabilities with some investment
(and the market looks pretty ample)
One final Q:
Front camera for video call ??
(I could just check pdadb.net for that one, but sometimes having the phone in-hand brings on some surprises)
No video calling afaik, though I suppose some app could potentially do it via the front camera.
Although the launcher can be changed easily, the OS theming requires the phone to be rooted and a system file to be replaced to change, so you'll have a lot of blue until the phone is rooted.
There are thousands of apps on the market and also around on the web, some are junk, some are great (including a lot of free ones), you shouldn't have too much trouble finding software to fill whatever needs you have.
Android is a pretty fantastic phone OS, I don't think you'll be dissatisfied with it, the user experience is much the same across different phones, so really it's about getting it on hardware that can fill your needs.
front cam ??
so it DOES have a front camera
thanks for the info
good news !!
aPaullyG said:
No video calling afaik, though I suppose some app could potentially do it via the front camera.
Although the launcher can be changed easily, the OS theming requires the phone to be rooted and a system file to be replaced to change, so you'll have a lot of blue until the phone is rooted.
There are thousands of apps on the market and also around on the web, some are junk, some are great (including a lot of free ones), you shouldn't have too much trouble finding software to fill whatever needs you have.
Android is a pretty fantastic phone OS, I don't think you'll be dissatisfied with it, the user experience is much the same across different phones, so really it's about getting it on hardware that can fill your needs.
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front cam ??
so it DOES have a front camera
thanks for the info
good news !!
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I have not seen a front camera on the mini pro, and the one i have has not a front camera
No front camera in mini pro
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Hey gtrab,
I was just like you, I always swore bt WM. And never wanted to try anything new. But while I was on a trip, my dash was bugging out on me and I needed a new phone. I went for the x10 mini pro cuz it was cheap.
Now my view has changed, android took a while to get used to from wm. Not a lot of things were intergrated like wm, I needed an app for every little thing. Just to get a comm manager thing going, I needed to download like 6 widgets for it. And there was no folders to organize the apps. Things weren't in abc order. But installing a new launcher solved it.
The thing about the x10 that is making me stick with android and ditching wm6.5 (maybe untill wm7 comes out) is there is no crashed. Android runs smooth and stable. I havent soft reset my phone in 2 months. Even tho a wm rom was stable it still has issues and I needed to soft reset it once a week just to get something to work again. Even my girl friend likes my phone, she always hated my wm phones cause it was hard to use, and it would always mess up on us when im talking to her over the phone. It would always go like, "the comm manager isnt loading, I need to reset the phone to turn on the bluetooh, ill call u back"
Because of this I think im going to stick with android now.
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Thanks for your words Ray_Jai
I am 100% sure to go Android as soon as possible, my only concern is "which" phone to choose
The X10 mini pro is an amazing little phone, the only thing stopping me from buying it is the screen res 'cause I do a lot of web navigation, and the older android version (Froyo has flash 10.1 web support)
The newest Desire Z and Moto droid 2 world edition are tempting me
Np,
The small screen is a killer for me too, but I do most of my web reading from RSS readers, so it's ok for me. I only use the phone for email and light web surfing, I rarely play games or watch movies on it. I tried to install some games, but many of the games weren't supported. so if you're into that, it might not be that good. but for everything else, it does a pretty good job.
Hi,
This is a pretty special use case, and I hope you guys can help me put together a solution, that will help my family.
My daughter is severely autistic, but loves music. We have worked with CD's for years, but they get destroyed by herself, and are a constant source for conflict for a variety of reasons - because we need to control her access to them (music-time vs. sleep-time for instance) and control the volume. I have to think, I could come up with a technical solution, so we could avoid physical media altogether.
Here is what I would like:
Take our Nexus 7, fill it up with music (maybe google music), mount it on the wall in her room, hook speakers up to it and let her control it as she likes. However, we need to be able to override, ie. lock her out of it if necessary, control the volume etc. I also do not want her to be able to screw up the Nexus by doing other stuff on it, so I would like to be able to lock it to just the music app, unless myself or my wife unlock it to do some sort of maintenance.
To sum up:
- Nexus 7
- Control volume / lock remotely - from pc or another android phone
- Music software
- Access restricted to limited list of apps (music app first and foremost)
How could this be done on Android? What software should I use?
I hope you guys have some good suggestions, so I can get a nice solution to this. Thanks in advance.
Hi
Never really tried to do anything like this but maybe you could create another user profile that has limited functions, I don't know how limited you can be with this but any nexus seven model should allow for a second profile, only allow her to use this one
And in this profile use a launcher that allows you to hide apps if Google won't remove enough for you.
On this profile and the one you create for yourself have a lockscreen password of sorts as well
There may even be an app or launcher in the market to do something this similar.
As for remotely controlling it, I've never tried this, I know you can if it is wired... Actually if you have an adb shell opened on a PC and connect wirelessly to that PC with adb then you could use the PC to turn it off but it would disconnect at this point
Hope you find a working solution, feel free to bounce ideas or questions off me, best of luck!
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peanutsy said:
Hi,
This is a pretty special use case, and I hope you guys can help me put together a solution, that will help my family.
My daughter is severely autistic, but loves music. We have worked with CD's for years, but they get destroyed by herself, and are a constant source for conflict for a variety of reasons - because we need to control her access to them (music-time vs. sleep-time for instance) and control the volume. I have to think, I could come up with a technical solution, so we could avoid physical media altogether.
Here is what I would like:
Take our Nexus 7, fill it up with music (maybe google music), mount it on the wall in her room, hook speakers up to it and let her control it as she likes. However, we need to be able to override, ie. lock her out of it if necessary, control the volume etc. I also do not want her to be able to screw up the Nexus by doing other stuff on it, so I would like to be able to lock it to just the music app, unless myself or my wife unlock it to do some sort of maintenance.
To sum up:
- Nexus 7
- Control volume / lock remotely - from pc or another android phone
- Music software
- Access restricted to limited list of apps (music app first and foremost)
How could this be done on Android? What software should I use?
I hope you guys have some good suggestions, so I can get a nice solution to this. Thanks in advance.
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I may have a working solution for you, But just bare with me whilst i gather it together to make sure it works like i think it will, I'm heading off to sleep now for work but when i get out i'll be right back at it again and hopefully will be able to deliver a working solution for you tomorrow.
Thanks, look forward to what you have come up with.
peanutsy said:
Hi,
This is a pretty special use case, and I hope you guys can help me put together a solution, that will help my family.
My daughter is severely autistic, but loves music. We have worked with CD's for years, but they get destroyed by herself, and are a constant source for conflict for a variety of reasons - because we need to control her access to them (music-time vs. sleep-time for instance) and control the volume. I have to think, I could come up with a technical solution, so we could avoid physical media altogether.
Here is what I would like:
Take our Nexus 7, fill it up with music (maybe google music), mount it on the wall in her room, hook speakers up to it and let her control it as she likes. However, we need to be able to override, ie. lock her out of it if necessary, control the volume etc. I also do not want her to be able to screw up the Nexus by doing other stuff on it, so I would like to be able to lock it to just the music app, unless myself or my wife unlock it to do some sort of maintenance.
To sum up:
- Nexus 7
- Control volume / lock remotely - from pc or another android phone
- Music software
- Access restricted to limited list of apps (music app first and foremost)
How could this be done on Android? What software should I use?
I hope you guys have some good suggestions, so I can get a nice solution to this. Thanks in advance.
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Well i hope you can bascially connect the nexus to the speakers and use a app locker just sure u wont lock the music app then it would lock other apps and through it you can allow or deny access to other apps and check these links to remotely use the nexus via ur pc http://drippler.com/google/nexus_7#!766313
http://www.yumapk.com/how-to-control-your-nexus-7-on-pc-with-airdroid.html
Hope it might help!
Best of luck
Hit thanks button if i helped
After finally getting root on the device, I hours trying to get a VNC server to work - with no luck at all.
Airdroid works, and while it is pretty damn clever piece of software, it does not really allow me meet any of my requirements. Yes, I can lock the device, but I cannot turn off the sound or exit a running application.
Limiting a profile to just a few apps seems doable, but if we cannot control volume and access to the device remotely, I cannot wall-mount it and prevent her taking it and damaging or losing it. Having a connected to a PC permanently becomes to complicated.
I am considering maybe just putting all her music on a mediaserver, installing an app for it on the nexus (like Plex) - and then creating a kill-switch for the mediaserver. That way there is no local music on the device, and I am able to cut the connection to the music, which I think eliminates the requirement to remote control the device itself.
Did you try setting up adb wirelessly? This would at least allow you to kill the app or turn off device, I don't know if you could change volume though.
Looking through the app store their are many child lock apps, maybe dig around there a bit and see if there is something that has more controls that can be done remotely
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If I may, the style of music makes a difference too. Easy listening gospel being the best and the Lord being the very top, He listens and His yoke is light.
peanutsy said:
I am considering maybe just putting all her music on a mediaserver, installing an app for it on the nexus (like Plex) - and then creating a kill-switch for the mediaserver. That way there is no local music on the device, and I am able to cut the connection to the music, which I think eliminates the requirement to remote control the device itself.
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I have now set up plex with a specific section for her music, shared that folder with a user account I logged in with on the Android Plex App - and she can now see her music collection and play it. I have not yet found an elegant (read: wife friendly) way to "unshare" her music library - without taking down all plex server sharing. But I will figure something out.
I have also managed to limit the user profile on her nexus 7 to just the plex media player. However, there are many options for her to mess with in the player itself, that I am unable to lock down. I am also unable to let her use the youtube app, as it does not run on "restricted profiles" - but that was just a "nice to have", not a "need to have".
Input and ideas are still welcome.
peanutsy said:
I have now set up plex with a specific section for her music, shared that folder with a user account I logged in with on the Android Plex App - and she can now see her music collection and play it. I have not yet found an elegant (read: wife friendly) way to "unshare" her music library - without taking down all plex server sharing. But I will figure something out.
I have also managed to limit the user profile on her nexus 7 to just the plex media player. However, there are many options for her to mess with in the player itself, that I am unable to lock down. I am also unable to let her use the youtube app, as it does not run on "restricted profiles" - but that was just a "nice to have", not a "need to have".
Input and ideas are still welcome.
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try applocker it might let you active apps you need and deactive apps you dont and i dont have a solution for the music app thingy which has less settings.. Still working on it.. Ill let you know as soon as i find something. Till then try this one "Songbird Music App"
Please hit thanks if i helped!
Good Luck!
This device caught my eye recently (Kyocera KY-01L):
https://uncrate.com/kyocera-ky-01l-card-phone/
Points of interest:
* Android-based
* e-paper display
* ultra compact
Personally I feel Kyocera made a huge mistake by not including the Play Store, or at least including an e-Reader application. A pocket-sized e-Reader that is also my phone just sounds awesome in theory (although the 380mAh battery might prove otherwise in reality...)
Since I use Hangouts and Hangouts Dialer for all my communications, I can't really use this unless I can get gApps installed.
Does anyone have experience hacking Kyocera phones? How difficult would it be to get root, TWRP, and gApps working on this thing?
I googled that phone and found your post. Most intriguing idea, but overpriced imho. I would like to test my developer skills on that but without adb or at least apk installer its useless
Android is not fully compatible (out-of-the-box) with e-ink and screen sizes under 3", unless it's heavily modified. Which is not worth the investmet, considering the target market. And even if Android were adapted, many apps wouldn't run anyway. They wrapped a layer around it to run essentials services. Note that there is a real browser though.
KY-01L Information
So i bought one of these myself out of curiosity and here's what i've found:
ADB can be enabled from the phones settings (the option is called "switch usb debugging") once it's enabled you can sideload APK's
APK's cannot be installed on the phone itself, when doing so you get the message than unknown sources are not enabled however as kyocera have modified the security settings there is no way to enable this afaik
The apps use AOSP icons and have some normal screens present which can be accessed with an activity launcher
When using installed apps the E-ink screen switches to a high refresh rate mode at random and the only way to get it back to normal is to launch cardphonehome (the default launcher)
The phone won't connect to any UK networks (i've only tried vodaphone and EE sims in it)
Bluetooth media audio seems to be removed entirely, even when sideloading a music player
The stock keyboard uses a 9 key input for text, you can sideload something like gboard but i haven't found the option to set it as the default input method
If you intend to buy one then i would suggest looking on YAJ proxy sites like buyee as they tend to go for ~£160.
Apps i'd recommend sideloading:
Activity launcher - lets you get into hidden menus and back into the stock launcher
Stealth music player - Plays music through the phones earpiece, can also enable the earpiece for use with audio from other apps
i'd also suggest lowering the DPI as some apps may be cramped
Dialer codes
*#*#4636#*#* - Android Testing menu
*#*#3878#*#* - Qualcomm FTM menu
*#*#225#*#* - Calendar info
Update: i've noticed the soc that CPUZ is reporting conflicts what others have said, ADB's CPU info command reports it as a wear 2100
I'm really curious if/how an ebook reading app would work on this. Did you try that out?
I'm considering buying a used one to try out as an ultra portable ebook reader.
eldritchgreene said:
I'm really curious if/how an ebook reading app would work on this. Did you try that out?
I'm considering buying a used one to try out as an ultra portable ebook reader.
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I tried the kindle app, Whenever it's opened it spams an error saying something about not being able to download image files for a few minutes, after that it works fine.
Phone density is set to 210 and kindle text size is on default
Harry99710 said:
I tried the kindle app, Whenever it's opened it spams an error saying something about not being able to download image files for a few minutes, after that it works fine.
Phone density is set to 210 and kindle text size is on default
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Amazing. Thank you so much Harry, this is great. I'm going to give my experiment a go!
any idea how to make it connect to EU 3g/4g ?
I have the Light Phone 2 which is very similar. I was able to root it and sideload apps on it. Harry is it possible to send over APKs from your Kyocera Card phone so I can test them on the light phone?
kennethashley said:
I have the Light Phone 2 which is very similar. I was able to root it and sideload apps on it. Harry is it possible to send over APKs from your Kyocera Card phone so I can test them on the light phone?
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You can try, i used apkextractor to extract them but they won't install on another device and trying to install them on the card phone itself gives an error saying the package is corrupt
Nothing in that last post seems to have uploaded
Screenshots - https://imgur.com/a/Z8uCQ1t
APK's https://drive.google.com/file/d/11Qf0EB1I0IhmodnkINQFAdS7uBvtV785/view?usp=sharing
Harry99710 said:
Nothing in that last post seems to have uploaded
Screenshots - https://imgur.com/a/Z8uCQ1t
APK's https://drive.google.com/file/d/11Qf0EB1I0IhmodnkINQFAdS7uBvtV785/view?usp=sharing
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Yea you are right I can't get the APKs installed.
paulmmm said:
any idea how to make it connect to EU 3g/4g ?
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nobody ?
paulmmm said:
nobody ?
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root it
Derek163 said:
root it
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ill try and come back with results
Hi
First of all, I appreciate the above information where I could find customizing about KY-01L. I was able to install Gmail, Chrome, Line lite, Gboard, and other utilities into my KY-01L!
To be honest, it was quite a stressful process to load apk`s and configure them a number of times.
The first step, I installed the Square Home launcher (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ss.squarehome2&hl=en&gl=us) and the Quickshortcut maker (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sika524.android.quickshortcut&hl=en&gl=us) that I am able to configure 10 times easier (Maybe some similar types of the app should work). the default setting of KY-01L is not able to configure app by the screen that is how it is designed by Kyocera.
After setting those 2 apps, I can configure launcher/shortcut in the home menu.
My KY-01L is not stable yet... still need to minor adjustments of configuration but it works what I was expected.
Kaz_SP1200 said:
Hi
First of all, I appreciate the above information where I could find customizing about KY-01L. I was able to install Gmail, Chrome, Line lite, Gboard, and other utilities into my KY-01L!
To be honest, it was quite a stressful process to load apk`s and configure them a number of times.
The first step, I installed the Square Home launcher (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ss.squarehome2&hl=en&gl=us) and the Quickshortcut maker (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sika524.android.quickshortcut&hl=en&gl=us) that I am able to configure 10 times easier (Maybe some similar types of the app should work). the default setting of KY-01L is not able to configure app by the screen that is how it is designed by Kyocera.
After setting those 2 apps, I can configure launcher/shortcut in the home menu.
My KY-01L is not stable yet... still need to minor adjustments of configuration but it works what I was expected.
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Hi there,
Can you explain how you managed to connect it to the network? The one I have is SIM unlocked, I can see available networks but it won't connect. The X.... symbol is displayed in the status bar ("Out of service area") but I am quite sure that the frequencies match.
cheeseus said:
Hi there,
Can you explain how you managed to connect it to the network? The one I have is SIM unlocked, I can see available networks but it won't connect. The X.... symbol is displayed in the status bar ("Out of service area") but I am quite sure that the frequencies match.
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Hi
I am using NTT Docomo carrier (in Japan) which is the preferred carrier for the KY-01L. KY-01L has limited bandwidth using LTE bands of 2.0GHz and 800MHz only. You would better check with your SIM carrier that uses those bandwidths or not.
Kaz_SP1200 said:
Hi
I am using NTT Docomo carrier (in Japan) which is the preferred carrier for the KY-01L. KY-01L has limited bandwidth using LTE bands of 2.0GHz and 800MHz only. You would better check with your SIM carrier that uses those bandwidths or not.
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Thanks for replying!
Well, it seems that my carrier doesn't offer the exact same frequencies. 3G is at 2100 MHz (B1) and LTE is at 2100 MHz (B1) and 1800 MHz (B3).
Too limited, indeed. I've been using Docomo and SoftBank and AU phones for over fifteen years now and they all worked but not this one
Kaz_SP1200 said:
Hi
First of all, I appreciate the above information where I could find customizing about KY-01L. I was able to install Gmail, Chrome, Line lite, Gboard, and other utilities into my KY-01L!
To be honest, it was quite a stressful process to load apk`s and configure them a number of times.
The first step, I installed the Square Home launcher (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ss.squarehome2&hl=en&gl=us) and the Quickshortcut maker (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sika524.android.quickshortcut&hl=en&gl=us) that I am able to configure 10 times easier (Maybe some similar types of the app should work). the default setting of KY-01L is not able to configure app by the screen that is how it is designed by Kyocera.
After setting those 2 apps, I can configure launcher/shortcut in the home menu.
My KY-01L is not stable yet... still need to minor adjustments of configuration but it works what I was expected.
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Hi I just ordered my KY-01L off ebay, and looking forward to doing what you're doing!
My question is - after you installed all these things (Square Home Launcher, Quick shortcut maker, Gmail, Chrome, Line lite, Gboard and other utilities), does the battery drain faster even when idle? If so, how much faster vs the vanilla version.
And what other utilities were you able to install on the KY-01L? Music player? Kindle? Youtube? Just curious to see what works...
Lastly, was the Square Home Launcher the only launcher that works? Or there were others that work but this is your preference.
Thanks!