Hello, I have been having trouble reverting my phone back to stock using the roms from this thread, but no matter which one I use, wifi doesn't seem to be working at all. Is there any way to fix this, or even another method? I'm using a Sprint HTC Evo 3D w/ hboot 1.58 and S-OFF, if you need any more information I'll gladly say.
I'm pretty new to this, so forgive me if I did anything wrong.
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Hello, I recently bought my Flyer, S-OFF'd, rooted, got CWM and custom ROM, everything's fine. In the HTC Desire section there are many threads about RADIO updates, mostly taken from new builds/RUUs/leaks: is there something like that for Flyer? Or can anyone point me to the latest RADIOs available so I can check against the RADIO I have now? Thanks!
I think the issue here is that there aren't a lot of releases from HTC for the Flyer that would have this in it, except for maybe the Honeycomb leaks. I don't know if a GB radio would work in HC and vice versa. I know what you're talking about though, in the DInc forums there's like 6 - 7 different radios you can flash from various leaks/official releases, and EVO radios were even compatible with them...so there were a ton of options.
I don't think that's the case with the Flyer. If I am wrong, someone correct me, as I only have a Wifi only version, but I just haven't seen radios around these forums in abundance.
I may be wrong but I believe there is serious risk in having a radio that does not match the hboot on your flyer. I would not suggest playing with radios
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mcord11758 said:
I may be wrong but I believe there is serious risk in having a radio that does not match the hboot on your flyer. I would not suggest playing with radios
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Let's go with "you're wrong," as it's pretty easy to swap out radios if you flash a bad one.
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Let's go with "you're wrong," as it's pretty easy to swap out radios if you flash a bad one.
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Indeed. And I don't think there's any link between hboots and radios. What are you on, guys?
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Originally Posted by globatron
It will just fail. Revolutionary uses hboot protection. Even if it did manage to update hboot, the partitions are different as are the boot image bases. You'd just make a mess of the software and have to RUU, worst case you end up with a hboot/radio mismatch and have to send it back to HTC to be re-imaged.
You won't be stuck, for as of right now it's the *only* way you can have HC. HC system images are too big for the old partition layout.
Yeah a reasonable statement if you have a device with no unlock. Otherwise it's just as easy to apply su as a zip file, you need CWM either way.
thanks for the info. for what its worth, i had based my answer on updating to an official release HC from a HC leak,but in retrospect that dint make sense either,as you prolly wont get an OTA while on a leak ima just be quiet now
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No, don't be quiet...just learn from mistakes. If you don't keep trying it's pointless because nobody learns. If I didn't think you or others could benefit from the information then I wouldn't bothered with the explanations.
i agree with you completely,thats just my humor. got honeycomb installed and am very much enjoying my flyer.
just trying to keep in mind that what i know about phones will not neccessarily apply anymore. for example,the hboot incompatibility between HC and GB. revolutionary hboot works for everything on the phones,so we change radios around regularly. not that ive any reason to change the radio in my wifi flyer,but it never occured to me that mis-matching the radio and hboot oculd cause such a catastrophe that an ruu wouldnt fix it definately good info to have
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I did not pull the concept of mismatch radio/hboot from my ass
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There is a very definite relationship between htc unlockable hboots and radios. With S-OFF hboots however no such issue unless you try to go back to S-ON and flash an unrecoverable configuration of hboot/version-main and radio. It an odd situation to get into but it is possible while there are no official HC RUUs.
HC hboot + HC version-main + GB radio = send to HTC for re-imaging or wait for an offical RUU.
A mismatched radio/hboot prevents the HTC unlock from working, and without unlock and hence without root you can't fix the main version and can't RUU.
As I said at the top so long as you stay S-OFF flashing a bad radio doesn't matter.
Thanks for the clear explanation.
I told that because I'm S-OFF so wouldn't mind trying some radios for a few days. So I ask again: what version are you using, guys? And what is your feedback about that?
Hi all I am currently using a ics Rom with hboot 1.5 s on my goal is to be able to flash these roms with out using chads fix which helped me a lot thanks chad but it looks like the kernel won't be updated to fix breaks. So I have gone thru forums and have seen downgrading to 1.4 s off. My question is this if I downgrade will I loose the flash I have for metro pcs? And is it nessasary to downgrade to accomplish what I would like to achieve having ics without the breaks. Thank you all for the help.
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Hi again sorry didn't say. I have a HTC EVO 3d cdma
Some roms have built in support for metro (like nocturnal ics), so you could downgrade and then flash one of those.
Or you could do a nandroid of your current setup and restore it after the downgrade process.
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Hi all I am currently using a ics Rom with hboot 1.5 s on my goal is to be able to flash these roms with out using chads fix which helped me a lot thanks chad but it looks like the kernel won't be updated to fix breaks. So I have gone thru forums and have seen downgrading to 1.4 s off. My question is this if I downgrade will I loose the flash I have for metro pcs? And is it nessasary to downgrade to accomplish what I would like to achieve having ics without the breaks. Thank you all for the help.
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Before you attempt to downgrade, please write down all MetroPCS radio/PRI/PRL, etc info. Someone asked a similar question somewhere else about Boost. I believe he warned everyone that it will erase and you need all the info to restore his Boost (MOST LIKELY metroPCS) service.
You can also take a screen shot of the settings as well.
#Root-Hack_Mod*Always\
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Ok Thank you all for your help but let me ask this there's this (wire trick) I hear there's a lot of success and I hear that some fail. If I did choose to use this method would it too remove flashed metro info? And does it have to be h-boot 1.4 s.off to flash the i.c.s roms or can I use 1.5 h-boot s.off? I'm still pretty new to this but starting to get the hang reading what a lot of great people are posting.
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Ok Thank you all for your help but let me ask this there's this (wire trick) I hear there's a lot of success and I hear that some fail. If I did choose to use this method would it too remove flashed metro info? And does it have to be h-boot 1.4 s.off to flash the i.c.s roms or can I use 1.5 h-boot s.off? I'm still pretty new to this but starting to get the hang reading what a lot of great people are posting.
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From my reading, it seems either is ok. I still would suggest 1.4 s-off as that's what I have and it is solid for me. Roms flash with no trouble and I get no bootloops. But the 1.5 s-off method is easier so maybe someone with 1.5 s-off can report their success rate (ease of flashing roms, stability, etc).
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Ok Thank you all for your help but let me ask this there's this (wire trick) I hear there's a lot of success and I hear that some fail. If I did choose to use this method would it too remove flashed metro info? And does it have to be h-boot 1.4 s.off to flash the i.c.s roms or can I use 1.5 h-boot s.off? I'm still pretty new to this but starting to get the hang reading what a lot of great people are posting.
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I think that's actually the thread where someone warned about his Boost info getting wiped, I could be wrong.
After s-off is achieved, hboot is sorta irrelevant. You can always flash a new hboot. I'm on eng hboot 1.04.
I upgraded my hboot from 1.4 to 1.58 and my Evo 3d reverted back to sprint, I had to pay again to flash it back to metropcs.
The same happened when I flashed a jelly bean rom. Tried 3 times different roms with no success. I've spent enough money already to buy a 4G LTE.
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For those who are helpers with only the Sprint or GSM 3D, please ignore this post.
I repeat, this is about the Virgin Mobile Evo V 4G, if you know nothing about it, please don't try to help, you'll waste both of our time.
So let me begin, I'm going to root my Evo V 4G. But I've noticed quite a lot of things that tell you to do things with that tell you to downgrade the S-Off. Wonderful. But to downgrade, they say you should be unrooted, and locked.
So I have a couple of questions. First off, "What is S-Off and HBoot and all that."
Second, is there a point to downgrading the HBoot (because I believe it is a higher version on the V 4G).
And third, should I root it first, or do the HBoot downgrade, or both?
(And yes I understand I'm a noob, but coming from the Motorola Triumph, all you had to do was use Terminal Emulator to root, and then get a custom recovery and you were good.)
Please explain, from one dev to a noob. Thank you very much.
First off I'm no developer, but I've dealt enough w/ HTC phones to know most of what you ask. I could be mistaken a bit but from my understanding here is what you are asking about:
S-Off/S-On is basically a setting that tells the bootloader (HBOOT) if it should verify the stuff it is flashing has been signed by HTC.
HBOOT is the bootloader for HTC phones, it is responsible for booting the ROM or Recovery, it's also used for fastboot commands.
Downgrading your HBOOT may be necessary in order to get true S-OFF
an example would be the Evo 3D HBOOT 1.4 can be S-OFF'd with revolutionary (maintaining your warranty and giving true S-OFF), but 1.5 needs the HTC Dev Unlock method which doesn't give true S-OFF but allows flashing of some unsigned content. In this instance it's better to downgrade your HBOOT and get a real S-OFF.
As for which to do first, if S-OFF can be gotten on your current HBOOT version, I dont see a need to downgrade it at all. If you HAVE TO downgrade I'd do that first, get S-OFF then flash a recovery and rom that has root access already.
Anyone who reads this and sees a mistake, please correct it
For those who are helpers with only the Sprint or GSM 3D, please ignore this post.
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probably shouldn't be in the Evo 3D forums then eh?
probably shouldn't be in the Evo 3D forums then eh?
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Ahhh, whoops. I suppose so.
And you're sure it's perfectly fine with the Virgin Mobile 3D, not just the Sprint one?
Wait a sec, are you saying there's an Evo V 4G forum too?
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I just got a replacement device and need to s-off, root, etc. I'm trying to use Dirty Racun but HTC Dev is down like a Vegas hooker. I've searched here but can't find what I need. Is there any way to s-off without HTC bootloader unlock? I'm running RUU 2.13.651.1 - HBOOT 1.19 and just want a functioning device back. Thanks in advance for any assistance.
The only way to root is with HTC dev, which, as of late, seems to be experiencing technical difficulties.
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That's what I thought but am getting desperate. Thanks!
Just tried again and was able to get the bin file in case anyone else was waiting.
So as the subject suggest I'm trying to install cool ics rom on my evo 3d cdma hboot 1.58 with a custom recovery rooted with s-off however it installs rather fast restarts and gets hung up at the green HTC logo. I'm sure someone else has had this problem so if someone could point me in the right direction i'd be forever greatful or if anyone has some rom recommendations that are really heavy on performance that would be great too. Im trying to use my evo for gaming. Ive had experience flashing roms before but when something goes wrong like this, I'm clueless.
Im on revo 1.40 s off hboot, and i also have bootloop on coolsens...
I though that i dont have supported hboot for ics kernel like coolexe said on 1st page of his forum. But if you on 1.58 hboot and still bootlooping maybe the answear is firmware... Im not sure but you can try... :thumbup:
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Since you're already S-off, why don't you try this link to downgrade hboot : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1906172
Also, check your firmware if updated.