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This is going to be simply a collection of links with important points...Please read ALL directions and comments carefully...as no one is responsible for any damage to your phone.
NOTE 1: IF YOU ARE UNROOTED AND ALREADY UPDATED WITH OTA, YOU CAN STILL USE THE PROCESSES BELOW TO ROOT AND FLASH RECOVERY.
>> Rooting Samsung Fascinate
>> Flashing Clockwork Recovery
NOTE 2: IF YOU ARE ROOTED AND WANT TO KEEP ROOT, DO NOT INSTALL VERIZON OTA UPDATE. WAIT FOR DEVELOPERS TO POST A ROOTED UPDATE.
If something went wrong and you did not have recovery installed, use Odin to restore system to stock >> Odin Restore files to get you to stock
If something went wrong, but you are still able to get into clockwork recovery >> Stock Nandroid Image
NOTE 3: IF YOU ARE ROOTED, HAVE LAGFIX AND APPS REMOVED, DO NOT INSTALL VERIZON OTA UPDATE. YOU WILL RUN INTO ISSUES. YOU NEED TO COMPLETELY GO BACK TO STOCK, THEN UPDATE. YOU WILL LOSE ROOT.
If you want to stop the OTA update notification, use this file which provides simple edits...but be careful as it may make further updates more difficult >> SCH-I500.DI01 Update
UPDATED:
OTA Update with Root and Busybox >> DH12 to DI01 update with root and busybox
Please post corrections and I will update the OP...I see too many people messing up their devices. Just want to help.
My path.
1) Stock with root mentioned in this dev section
2)restored CW backup
3)used CW to install the update mentioned in this thread.
No problems so far.
After reading this thread again I went to stock and stock kernel. Rooted and gold again.
I think that CPU Scale app causes the Fascinate to shut down, so if you use it and getting them.... remove the app or let me know if you fixed.
Thanks!!!
Now, here is something I didn't try yet. I am still stock (not rooted), ran the OTA...and with all people having issues, I am scared to root. I want to try but I think I will wait and see if anyone else does this.
tats_06 said:
This is going to be simply a collection of links with important points...
>> Rooting Samsung Fascinate
>> Flashing Clockwork Recovery
NOTE 1: IF YOU ARE ROOTED AND WANT TO KEEP ROOT, DO NOT INSTALL VERIZON OTA UPDATE. WAIT FOR DEVELOPERS TO POST A ROOTED UPDATE.
If something went wrong and you did not have recovery installed, use Odin to restore system to stock >> Odin Restore files to get you to stock
If something went wrong, but you are still able to get into clockwork recovery >> Stock Nandroid Image
NOTE 2: IF YOU ARE ROOTED, HAVE LAGFIX AND APPS REMOVED, DO NOT INSTALL VERIZON OTA UPDATE. YOU WILL RUN INTO ISSUES. YOU NEED TO COMPLETELY GO BACK TO STOCK, THEN UPDATE. YOU WILL LOSE ROOT.
If you don't care about root and want to install the OTA update manually >> SCH-I500.DI01 Update
Please post corrections and I will update the OP...I see too many people messing up their devices. Just want to help.
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I thought the post about doing the OTA manually would allow you to keep root, seeing that it's a stripped down version.
Let me clarify that. If that's the case, I can update the OP.
Restored, updated and Rerooted
All is well. No problems so far.
Guys, pay attention to that update file. It is only updating modem.bin, and then updating your version number so you don't get nagged for an update. There are many more patches/updates in this fix than just modem.bin, and by doing only modem.bin you make it a bit more difficult on yourself to update down the road.
If that's all you want, go ahead and use it, but in no way did JT intend for this to get distributed as "this is what you should use if you have root" update.
Read before using, that's all I ask.
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Guys, pay attention to that update file. It is only updating modem.bin, and then updating your version number so you don't get nagged for an update. There are many more patches/updates in this fix than just modem.bin, and by doing only modem.bin you make it a bit more difficult on yourself to update down the road.
If that's all you want, go ahead and use it, but in no way did JT intend for this to get distributed as "this is what you should use if you have root" update.
Read before using, that's all I ask.
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Thanks for heads up...first post updated.
Bump.... Back to top till this gets stickied!
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Bump.... Back to top till this gets stickied!
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Thanks! I just reported it too to request for sticky.
Just thought I would menetion that phone is auto updating the software once it is downloaded to phone at night I woke up this morning and just reposed at work when I went to use wireless tether it wouldn't work looked at my phone and realized it had been auto updated time to go back to stock and reroot
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azalvarez03 said:
Just thought I would menetion that phone is auto updating the software once it is downloaded to phone at night I woke up this morning and just reposed at work when I went to use wireless tether it wouldn't work looked at my phone and realized it had been auto updated time to go back to stock and reroot
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Do you have to go back to stock first before rooting? Or can you just run the root OVER the update? Thanks.
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Do you have to go back to stock first before rooting? Or can you just run the root OVER the update? Thanks.
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I don't think the update blocks root. you should be able to install the OTA as long as your not rooted, then once it is installed go ahead and root your device.
Ok...looks like root went thru...working on cwm recovery now.
OK, recovery installed successfully...running a backup right now.
Should I test restoring? Or should I assume I am safe?
Rooting after OTA update.
Can someone give a diffinative answer please. Can we root after the OTA update or does the update block root?
lukaro said:
Can someone give a diffinative answer please. Can we root after the OTA update or does the update block root?
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If you have CWM installed, you always have root via adb, which means you can get your root apps working.
If you're not running CWM, I don't know. Someone who's tried rage.bin post-update could tell you.
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Can someone give a diffinative answer please. Can we root after the OTA update or does the update block root?
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Yes you can root after update, I did it fine, but had to attempt it twice, the first try it hung, so had to do a battery pull, and then the second time it worked fine.
Nothing in the update seems worth it to return to stock (I've removed so many stock apps already.)
I'm having the Force Close loop issue. My CWR seems to be missing, as all I can access is Android system recovery <2e> with the options of:
reboot system now
apply sdcard:update.zip
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition
Using the Odin method didn't work for me, on multiple tries. My SD card appears to be wiped clean and I can't enter debug mode.
Is there anything short of a miracle that I can do to fix my phone? I've seen a few posts with people saying they had similar problems as mine, but there was never and explanation of how or if they fixed there phone.
Thanks in advance
https://doc-0k-1o-docs.googleuserco...009/*/0BzrP5DWIlpplYjFOY1MwOXFNLWc?e=download
here is the ota zip
if we flash this can we flash 4.5.141 with rsd?
any answers?
I wouldn't count on it. The ZIP seems to contain what looks like the bootloader, or at least a piece of it (ap20bl.img). Who knows what might happen after that. Motorola said a downgrade is not possible.
I would just wait for the .145 fruitcake. Then switching back and forth should be safe and painless.
ok thanks for answer
Installed 4.5.145 for fun
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ok thanks for answer
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I wanted to see for myself the GPS improvements made in the update and sacrificed losing SU/root access to the phone. The update installed without a hitch and left all my apk installed apps alone. I had a handful of apps that required root (e.g. Dropbear II, busybox, Superuser, root explorer, and seeder) and will just wait until someone figures out a new method to regain access again.
sn0wba11 said:
I wanted to see for myself the GPS improvements made in the update and sacrificed losing SU/root access to the phone. The update installed without a hitch and left all my apk installed apps alone. I had a handful of apps that required root (e.g. Dropbear II, busybox, Superuser, root explorer, and seeder) and will just wait until someone figures out a new method to regain access again.
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Did you do this via the standard update or by flashing that zip yourself?
vikingarcher said:
Did you do this via the standard update or by flashing that zip yourself?
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Standard
Su ota survival
Has anyone tried to install the update after activating the superuser ota survival option
Root after sys 4.5.145 update?
fdaconta said:
The traditional preinstall method should still work. No wiping happens with that. I used it back when I first rooted my phone, everything stayed exactly as it was (all stock) except I had root too.
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This response is from the developer thread. I would respond there but the policy for members with less than 10 posts is silly.
None of the existing preinstall methods (e.g. atrix-4g-moto-fastboot or superoneclick 2.3.3) work with 4.5.145.
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Interesting. I tried it with my stock ROM that is rooted and unlocked -- ended up with a boot loop. Decided to flash a new ROM, so switched to the CM10 ROM. That seems to be working well and I think I will just not worry about this update for now.
vikingarcher said:
Interesting. I tried it with my stock ROM that is rooted and unlocked -- ended up with a boot loop. Decided to flash a new ROM, so switched to the CM10 ROM. That seems to be working well and I think I will just not worry about this update for now.
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Came across a link at Android Central that used Voodoo OTA RootKeeper to restore --> Forgot I installed this awhile back; reinstalling app restored my superuser access
Re-rooted 4.5.145 after OTA
I successfully re-rooted mine last night using the pre-install method.
Read my topic here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2153422
From 141, to 145, back to 141.... and finally ended up with a working (and rooted) 145.
I rooted my phone just for the sole purpose of using wifitether and kept the stock rom. I didn't use the wire trick, so I don't think I fully rooted it? Any case, I have a notification to do an OTA system update and I'm afraid to do it since I have the phone exactly how I want it.
If I don't need to update, how do I hide the notification? What does the update do?
Thanks!
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I rooted my phone just for the sole purpose of using wifitether and kept the stock rom. I didn't use the wire trick, so I don't think I fully rooted it? Any case, I have a notification to do an OTA system update and I'm afraid to do it since I have the phone exactly how I want it.
If I don't need to update, how do I hide the notification? What does the update do?
Thanks!
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OTA's require the stock recovery so you can't apply them when rooted. You didn't say which model (Sprint or VM) and that makes a difference.
For Sprint you can backup your apps, data and settings then relock the bootloader, flash the RUU and OTA, install a custom recovery and restore your backups. That will give you the updated firmware and stock ROM from the March OTA. In addition to the firmware updates, the ROM changes include the Sprint connection optimizer and some fixes for other software.
If you are a VM user and haven't installed the March OTA you can still use the above sequence but then you won't be able to flash the RUU if you decide to get S-OFF so you should do that first if you have any plans for it. After flashing the RUU there will be two OTA updates (November and March) to apply for the stock configuration.
ramjet73
As the title says, I'm currently rooted and using the original .532 firmware.
What is the simplest way of upgrading to the latest update keeping root intact?
I'm able to update via wi-fi or over the air.
I read somewhere about rootkeeper?
Please could someone advise me on how to do this without wiping data and root.
Thanks xda members.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502185
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502185
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Thanks for the link. However, is there not an alternative & quicker method?
A user claims to have updated ota without losing root only by using rootkeeper.
I don´t know, but that method is quick and easy.
You must have the bootloader unlocked, do not have recovery installed, only change the build.prop with rooy explorer (you can try without changing it), keep the root with rootkeeper and update with sony update center.
You can try it with your original 532, I think.
rooted and on original software (condensed from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502185). You do not need unlocked bootloader for this.
1. OTA Rootkeeper - install and protect root
2. Perform OTA to 257
3. Enjoy
If OTA fails
1. TiBu - make full backup of your apps & necessary system apps (wifi locations, SMS, etc)
2. FlashTool - Reinstall 532 FTF
3. Root (vRoot is suspect, but go ahead if you like living dangerously, we all do)
4. OTA Rootkeeper - install and protect root
5. Perform OTA to 257
6. Restore Apps via TiBu
7. Enjoy
* Of course, if you're doing it via OTA failure method, you should make sure all your app config files are exported out and saved (Nova, LightFlow, etc)
hey dude do nothing. do not unlock bootloader or anything else. if you have root just ota thats it no need for a rootkeeper or anything else.
can it be any simple than that???
the duderino said:
hey dude do nothing. do not unlock bootloader or anything else. if you have root just ota thats it no need for a rootkeeper or anything else.
can it be any simple than that???
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That's what I did last time but root was lost.
I may skip the update and wait for Kitkat 4.4 and root.
I noticed no difference or improvement whatsoever when I had 257.
kanej2006 said:
That's what I did last time but root was lost.
I may skip the update and wait for Kitkat 4.4 and root.
I noticed no difference or improvement whatsoever when I had 257.
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hmmmm it worked for me tough.
I'm still on a rooted 4.1.2 and have the second OTA update to 4.3 (.109) in my notifications. Rather than go through the whole flashing process, I wondered if anyone had successfully used the Survival mode in SuperSU to retain root from this point to .109?
Chimpdaddy said:
I'm still on a rooted 4.1.2 and have the second OTA update to 4.3 (.109) in my notifications. Rather than go through the whole flashing process, I wondered if anyone had successfully used the Survival mode in SuperSU to retain root from this point to .109?
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you can try ot yourself,.but i reckon it will give you error while applying update.
Rootk1t said:
you can try ot yourself,.but i reckon it will give you error while applying update.
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Yup, I'd read similar. I was more concerned that it would update but I'd lose root, so have to then do the full process.
Chimpdaddy said:
Yup, I'd read similar. I was more concerned that it would update but I'd lose root, so have to then do the full process.
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I have a rooted 422 with su pro, The update process aborts mid way and the OS is left untouched, leaving all as it was. I am just too lazy to do the flashtool thing and all, so I left it alone.
I was able to go from 412 to 422 with the OTA and keep root.
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I have a rooted 422 with su pro, The update process aborts mid way and the OS is left untouched, leaving all as it was. I am just too lazy to do the flashtool thing and all, so I left it alone.
I was able to go from 412 to 422 with the OTA and keep root.
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I know, so lazy, if I wait long enough 4.4 will come around and that might keep root!
Nobody's read a successful account of this working then? I may as well just try it and see...
Possibly
If you have bought Supersu pro then you could try survival mode, provided that your phone is only root and doesn't have a custom recovery installed.
I personally haven't tried it on my tablet but on other phones like G2, OTA update retains root.
If you have CWM or TWRP installed then it won't let you update.
adielee said:
If you have bought Supersu pro then you could try survival mode, provided that your phone is only root and doesn't have a custom recovery installed. I personally haven't tried it on my tablet but on other phones like G2, OTA update retains root. If you have CWM or TWRP installed then it won't let you update.
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Judging by all the posts I have read here so far, attempting to update to 4.3 via OTA will fail if your tablet's current firmware has been modified to have root access. Having SuperSU Pro installed with Install SuperSU into /system and/or Survival mode enabled does not help. I have attempted an OTA update with 10.4.B.0.577 and 10.4.1.B.0.109, and the update failed in both attempts. It's okay with me though. After reading about 4.3's bugs and seeing its UI, I don't really want to update to 4.3 anymore.
Cat McGowan said:
Judging by all the posts I have read here so far, attempting to update to 4.3 via OTA will fail if your tablet's current firmware has been modified to have root access. Having SuperSU Pro installed with Install SuperSU into /system and/or Survival mode enabled does not help. I have attempted an OTA update with 10.4.B.0.577 and 10.4.1.B.0.109, and the update failed in both attempts. It's okay with me though. After reading about 4.3's bugs and seeing its UI, I don't really want to update to 4.3 anymore.
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you're right, but besides bugs introduced as every firmware does, some very positive tweaks were done "under the bonnet" like TRIM enabled to make less wearing of flash modules, and some performance tweaks noticeable not only in launcher, but mostly in games too.
So if you have root and recovery installed you can backup your data and install .109 prerooted firmware to evaluate it yourself.
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you're right, but besides bugs introduced as every firmware does, some very positive tweaks were done "under the bonnet" like TRIM enabled to make less wearing of flash modules, and some performance tweaks noticeable not only in launcher, but mostly in games too.
So if you have root and recovery installed you can backup your data and install .109 prerooted firmware to evaluate it yourself.
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I would also recommend to flash a pre-rooted 4.3 from scratch for performance and less issues, but if you have a lot of apps installed and everything set up the way you want it can be a pain in the a$#.
Also the OP doesn't want to flash. But if he can it means that the OTA won't install because he has a custom recovery.
I don't see why Supersu pro with survival mode won't work for an OTA to keep root. This is provided that a you do not have a custom recovery installed. It's kind of the purpose for survival mode and if you do a search it works with most other updates with other devices (even for 4.4.2)
It may be possible that other mods may affect the OTA especially ones which were flashed or possibly xposed.
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I don't see why Supersu pro with survival mode won't work for an OTA to keep root. This is provided that a you do not have a custom recovery installed. It's kind of the purpose for survival mode and if you do a search it works with most other updates with other devices (even for 4.4.2) It may be possible that other mods may affect the OTA especially ones which were flashed or possibly xposed.
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I do not have (nor do I want) a custom recovery or custom ROM installed on my XTZ. I only have root access, which I achieved by using DooMLoRD's Easy Rooting Toolkit when I first received my XTZ back in May 2013. Since then, thanks to SuperSU Pro, I have updated my XTZ's firmware via OTA twice without losing root access. It is only with the last two XTZ firmware releases, 10.4.B.0.577 and 10.4.1.B.0.109, that the OTA updates fail. I suspect Sony's latest firmware releases include detection of root access, etc., which causes the update's failure to install.
Nope
Cat McGowan said:
I do not have (nor do I want) a custom recovery or custom ROM installed on my XTZ. I only have root access, which I achieved by using DooMLoRD's Easy Rooting Toolkit when I first received my XTZ back in May 2013. Since then, thanks to SuperSU Pro, I have updated my XTZ's firmware via OTA twice without losing root access. It is only with the last two XTZ firmware releases, 10.4.B.0.577 and 10.4.1.B.0.109, that the OTA updates fail. I suspect Sony's latest firmware releases include detection of root access, etc., which causes the update's failure to install.
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Well, I tried it, thinking the worse that could happen is that it would abandon the install, but unfortunately it went right through and upgraded to 4.3 and I lost root
I'd put it into OTA survival mode but not into system/apps. I had no xposed or recovery anything, just root.
So there we go. Thanks for the discussion guys, hope this is useful to someone else.
How do I root it in 4.3? Any ideas?
Try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2703774
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