Im thinking this:
If one wants to get root and custom firmwares onto the Mega (I9205 in my case), then the only way that i can imagine right now is to flash one of the prerooted firmwares and then flash CWM with Mobile Odin from within the system afterwards (I know Mobile Odin does not officialy support the Mega yet).
Is there any other way to get root and CWM without touching the binary counter and having to risk using "Triangle away" ?
According to some more experienced users, mega does not have a binary counter. It shows "customised" rather than a counter.
To flash a stock rom with stock recovery is sufficient to restore to its stock state.
dchsub said:
According to some more experienced users, mega does not have a binary counter. It shows "customised" rather than a counter.
To flash a stock rom with stock recovery is sufficient to restore to its stock state.
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Thank you very much for your reply. If this is true, then that is really good news and a fair decision on Samsungs behalf, to make it that way.
Yes just the stock rom flashing from Odin will make it back in warranty and Real factory Default
IN case of Mega we don't need any triangle away/Binary counter reset kernel.
brunte said:
Thank you very much for your reply. If this is true, then that is really good news and a fair decision on Samsungs behalf, to make it that way.
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I naively think, to make it easier to restore to stock state will decrease the chance to go service for those who will flash anyway. Triangle away can sometimes soft brick a samsung device.
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Hi,
I've had a look around and can't find a thread that answers my question completely. I just want to gain root access to phone, I have no intention of flashing a custom firmware. My phone is a Galaxy S2 I9100 running Vodafone Australia's stock 4.0.3 ICS.
As I am new to rooting, I have browsed through this page but still have questions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
I want to be able to easily restore my phone to its stock, unrooted state for warranty purposes. I'm not quite sure how to do this, Is there a way to backup my phones kernel as it is now, and be able to flash back to the stock kernel if something were to go wrong?
Also, My kernel version is 3.0.15-I9100TDULP9-CL422302 ..... The key letters being LP9? So then which one of these 2 would I flash?
CF-Root-SGS2_XW_KPN_LP9-v5.4-CWM5.zip OR
CF-Root-SGS2_DX_SIN_LP9-v5.4-CWM5.zip
Or would either work?
(Yes still going, sorry!) I also saw something called a Binary Flash Counter which counts the amount of times a phone has been modified? Would I be affected by this by just gaining root access? And if so how do I prevent that? (My ultimate aim is to root, but still keep warranty)
Thanks in advance for any help, its really appreciated.
mkirpy22 said:
Hi,
I've had a look around and can't find a thread that answers my question completely. I just want to gain root access to phone, I have no intention of flashing a custom firmware. My phone is a Galaxy S2 I9100 running Vodafone Australia's stock 4.0.3 ICS.
As I am new to rooting, I have browsed through this page but still have questions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
I want to be able to easily restore my phone to its stock, unrooted state for warranty purposes. I'm not quite sure how to do this, Is there a way to backup my phones kernel as it is now, and be able to flash back to the stock kernel if something were to go wrong?
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To get back to stock look for your firmware in Intratech's thread. It also provides links for kernel only downloads.
Also, My kernel version is 3.0.15-I9100TDULP9-CL422302 ..... The key letters being LP9? So then which one of these 2 would I flash?
CF-Root-SGS2_XW_KPN_LP9-v5.4-CWM5.zip OR
CF-Root-SGS2_DX_SIN_LP9-v5.4-CWM5.zip
Or would either work?
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From the thread you were referencing:
The XX and OXA identifiers are not that important. Usually a "KG1" kernel is a "KG1" kernel, and that is that. Sometimes (pretty rare) it happens there will be multiple different kernels with the same name in different firmwares, that are actually different. If this happens, they are usually only very minor changes and you should expect them to still be fully compatible. I include the "XX" and "OXA" identifiers so the very advanced users can deduce from which full firmware I have taken the kernel file.
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(Yes still going, sorry!) I also saw something called a Binary Flash Counter which counts the amount of times a phone has been modified? Would I be affected by this by just gaining root access? And if so how do I prevent that? (My ultimate aim is to root, but still keep warranty)
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Yes you will be affected (if rooting with CF-root method) and no, you can't prevent it. However you can reset things. The easiest way to do this is to use TriangleAway from the Play store.
Best thing to do if you want a backup that's as close to stock as possible is to root your phone & then do a Nandroid backup in CWM before doing anything else to the phone (flashing custom roms, other kernels, etc). That will give you a backup that is essentially stock other than the rooted kernel.
If you want to guarantee warranty service, don't mess with your phone (yes, I'm serious). Once you start messing with it, you should lose any expectation of warranty service should the worst happen (rooting your phone/running non stock firmware voids your warranty). Having said that, many people who have rooted their phones and/or run non-stock firmware have been able to get warranty service by going back to stock & resetting the flash counter either with a jig or Triangle Away before sending it in for service. However, this is never a guaranteed, rolled gold 100% certainty.
FXRB is right, before you root your phone, either download your current firmware from Intratech's thread, or use the PC version of Checkfus to download it. This will save you problems if you need to go back to stock in say, 12 mths, and you forget which firmware was originally on the phone.
Unrooting Sprint Samsung s2 ics 4.0.4 fh13
I rooted my phone but would like to unroot it back to previous or stock. Please help with any information to unroot. Thanks.
hispeed10 said:
I rooted my phone but would like to unroot it back to previous or stock. Please help with any information to unroot. Thanks.
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1. Reset binary counter using Triangle away app.
2. Download Stock firmware for your country/region here: http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/
3. Flash the firmware via Odin.
Done
hispeed10 said:
I rooted my phone but would like to unroot it back to previous or stock. Please help with any information to unroot. Thanks.
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In addition to what Jokesy said, you say you have a Sprint Samsung s2 ics 4.0.4 fh13. The Sprint variant is the Epic 4G Touch, and has a different forum located at http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1281.
This forum is for the I9100, which is a GSM phone, and doesn't even work on Sprint's CDMA network.
For your own sake and future sanity, please go to and stay in that forum, and avoid flashing anything from this forum for the I9100.
I rooted my phone pushing CWM.zip and SU-busybox in recovery mode.
First CWM.zip And then su-busybox in the Clockwork orange mod. Its rooted and no yellow triangle.
Hello,
I've never had a samsung, this should (I have yet to decide) be my first one and I've basically understood that samsung hates you and would put a camera facing the screen just to know you're not rooting it.
So I want my warranty and I wouldn't really like to spend money on app like the one for the flash counter because I think I will have this phone just for a short time
I've understood that someone called mrrobinson has managed to find a way to root without letting the flash counter know. But in his thread I've found files for all the possible existing usa carriers, but I have a normal i9300 for europe.
And so is there ANY way to root flash cwm without flash counter appearing?
And if I flash a rom with cwm no problem as usual, right?
virtualflyer said:
Hello,
And so is there ANY way to root flash cwm without flash counter appearing?
And if I flash a rom with cwm no problem as usual, right?
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No
But Triangle Away will remove custom rom count .
Flashing a stock rom and a factory reset will revert modified status to original .
So I want my warranty and I wouldn't really like to spend money on app like the one for the flash counter because I think I will have this phone just for a short time
In that case run on stock if you don't want to buy cheap apps .
jje
That's not really the point. The fact is that it seems more legit to me to not meet flash counter instead of just canceling it.
But so there's nothing like that mrrobinson method for normal s3?
Thank you btw
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1728441 This for example, would it work? Would I be able to flash cwm then without that counter?
i recently rooted through the exynos bug and would like to keep root but avoid having the device status as modified or having the counter increase,
My main concern is avoiding problems if i need to use the warranty
I'd like to know if i can do any of the following while maintaining root , keeping the device unmodified and no counter increase:
1-update via Kies normally (to a version with the exynos bug fixed)
2-update via odin to a stock rom (with the exynos bug fixed)
3-update via mobile odin to a stock rom (i guess with mobile odin i can't have the exynos bug fixed via rom update)
thanks.
Why? If you are rooted you won't have warranty even if all the counters are zero
if the counters are zero (at least with the exynos bug) i can remove root easily, if necessary.
And if they're not, you can reset them at any time. I don't see the point for the hassle
temp9300 said:
i recently rooted through the exynos bug and would like to keep root but avoid having the device status as modified or having the counter increase,
My main concern is avoiding problems if i need to use the warranty
I'd like to know if i can do any of the following while maintaining root , keeping the device unmodified and no counter increase:
1-update via Kies normally (to a version with the exynos bug fixed)
2-update via odin to a stock rom (with the exynos bug fixed)
3-update via mobile odin to a stock rom (i guess with mobile odin i can't have the exynos bug fixed via rom update)
thanks.
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I am not aware of any way to keep the status "unmodified" and keep root, as root will set it too modified anyway.
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Why? If you are rooted you won't have warranty even if all the counters are zero
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depends where you are, in Europe you still have warranty with root.
chrismast said:
depends where you are, in Europe you still have warranty with root.
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Got a source on that? The status will be "modified", pretty sure that voids the warranty
Use mobile odin and make a wipe data and cache
It will facotry reset your phone
But it changes your device status back to normal and keeps the root
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
if it's modified shouldn't there be something showing that when booting? like the yellow triangle? i have nothing like that since i got root using the exynos abuse bug.
It shows it in the download mode
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Got a source on that? The status will be "modified", pretty sure that voids the warranty
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sure, Directive 1999/44/CE by the European Union or an easier to read summary
That's interesting but I think you'll have to be prepared to pay lawyer expenses and it might not be worth it.
My objective was to have root but be able to quickly and easy revert back to normal, guess it's not that easy, I'll always need some steps and a computer.
just found out that even if you unroot using the exynos abuse tool you might still keep your device status as modified.
can't use the standard update to 4.1.2, guess i'll have to try a full wipe next, maybe that will rever it back to normal.
Right so, this is my first post so I'm very new here.
I have a Samsung S2 (I9100) which I rooted using Framaroot. I then flashed CM 10.1.3 on my phone. I also flashed the DorimanX 9.41 kernel. I want to return my phone to stock everything. Basically, as it was when it came out of the box. I want to do this because I might return it to warranty soon. I know the steps to do. However, I need to understand a few things:
Is Triangle Away safe if I use it correctly?
When I flash the stock firmware, will I be able to receive OTA updates or will all of my updates need to be from Odin?
If I want to restore my warranty, does my phone need to have the carrier branded firmware? I am going to get carrier-branded firmware anyway but I am just wondering.
My baseband version is I9100XXLPH. My carrier is T-Mobile UK. When I go to SamMobile, I get this:
GT-I9100 United Kingdom (T-Mobile) 2013 June 4.1.2 I9100XWLSY I9100TMULS8
If my baseband version is I9100XXLPH, does this mean that this firmware is not correct for my phone?
Thanks for the help!
1) Well yes, like any flash there's that 0.0000001% something will go wrong. You can't remove that risk regardless of what anyone might tell you. If that frightens you, best not flash anything at all. Ever.
2) If you go back to stock, you should be able to get OTA updates OK, but sometimes it doesn't always work out this way. It's just as easy to flash your stock updates via Odin if you find OTA updates won't happen for whatever reason (flashing a 3 part firmware with CSC when you go back to stock seems to make it more likely OTA updates happen smoothly after).
3) If I was returning a phone for a warranty claim, yes, I'd put the latest stock firmware on for my carrier.
4) Forget basebands (which is your modem & not really relevant to anything) or anything else, choose the latest firmware they have for your carrier, flash that.
Thanks very much. However, when using Triangle Away, is there ANYTHING I can do to increase the chances of a successful reset? Also, will having used Framaroot change anything?
I've never had any problems using it (have used it a number of times/on different devices) & am not aware of anything you can do to try and 'maximise' your chances of it working (it should work for most people/most of the time), other than reading thread devoted to it on here thoroughly if you're genuinely nervous about it; other people's experiences in the thread might yield some useful info.
The root method shouldn't have a great deal of bearing on anything, but I'm not a developer so I'm not familiar with the 'inner workings' of how Framaroot injects Su & Busybox onto the phone/whether it does anything materially different compared to other root methods that might interfere with Triangle Away. I don't believe it does based on I can't remember anyone posting in the two yrs I've been coming here saying 'Triangle Away wouldn't work because I used X root method'.
Put it this way, if worse came to worse, if Triangle Away refused to work/reset the flash counter, you could always go back to Gingerbread stock, reset the flash counter with a jig, then flash the latest stock firmware & sent it in for warranty service.
Triangle Away is quick/simple/works most of the time, but that's not the only option you have if it won't work & you absolutely must reset the flash counter.
Thanks for all the advice. One more question though , is Triangle Away compatible with all ROMs and kernels? And (hopefully) final question, do I only wipe data on recovery or do I also wipe cache?
It's I9100 compatible, so yes, it is.
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Eyensteinium said:
And (hopefully) final question, do I only wipe data on recovery or do I also wipe cache?
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Could you answer this question?
It doesn't matter, whatever suits you.
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It doesn't matter, whatever suits you.
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What does the cache do then?
Stores apps' info and other s#!t.
It's not mandatory to wipe per se, but it might help when going stock from custom and viceversa.
I told you, you're safe from the brick bug as long as you stay away from 4.0.4.
Sent from the little guy
OP - You're starting to overthink/ovecomplicate this. There's no need to. Reset the counter, flash stock, done.
Okay. It's just that the warnings on the Triangle Away app are a bit scary and both times I've flashed with Odin, I've been stuck in a bootloop. Anyway, hopefully, I'll have stock JB up and running before Monday.
Sent from my GT-I9100.
Trust me, you'll be fine (never trust someone who says 'trust me' )
When should I wipe data, before or after flash?
After.
Okay, thanks a lot. Just need to make a note of which apps I have installed so I can reinstall them afterwards. Also, is it possible to backup my messages and call logs?
Yes, titanium back up pro & similar.
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But Titanium Backup doesn't work without root. After going back to stock, I'm going to stay unrooted for a while. Also, I don't want to backup apps.
Notice that I included "similar" over there.
You really should hit the threads before you jump onto the flashing field.
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Thanks for the reply. Just two more questions:
If I do EVERYTHING correctly, is there any chance of a hard brick.
And, I tried following this guide (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068193) but the commands it said to back up my efs folder didn't work. Could you recommend an efs backup tool?
Many Samsung devices store a flash counter that keeps track of how many times you have flashed custom firmwares to your device. On some devices, a yellow triangle or other sort of visual warning is also displayed during boot if you are running a custom firmware. TriangleAway was built to disable the triangle (if a visual warning is present) and reset the custom ROM flash counter to 0. This app requires root !
my flash counter was 11 :silly:
using Triangle Away may unmount your SD card. Reboot or manually remount it from Android settings.
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i hope that i helped you :angel:
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NO U JUST WANT TO FARM "THANKS"
But whatevar, take it if it saves U i think that everybody know about this and laiks propably wont increase flash counter (as i look now, in our dev section we almost dont have anything what is flashed by odin (except stock roms)"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s2/orig-development/2014-01-15-triangleaway-v3-26-t1494114
plus there's way more information there.
I don't even know if the Ace 2 HAS the flash counter. I have flashed different firmware and ROMs thousands of times and not hit a wall. Download mode always thinks you're running Samsung Official firmware so is unaffected. Triangle Away is NOT needed for our device, I will argue that to the grave.
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I don't even know if the Ace 2 HAS the flash counter. I have flashed different firmware and ROMs thousands of times and not hit a wall. Download mode always thinks you're running Samsung Official firmware so is unaffected. Triangle Away is NOT needed for our device, I will argue that to the grave.
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It is still useful in cases when you need to repair your phone(using custom fw) if too lazy to flash full firmware
j800r said:
I don't even know if the Ace 2 HAS the flash counter. I have flashed different firmware and ROMs thousands of times and not hit a wall. Download mode always thinks you're running Samsung Official firmware so is unaffected. Triangle Away is NOT needed for our device, I will argue that to the grave.
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That only proves, you weren't with codina from the beginning
First mods affected flash counter (gingerbread times), until devs learned how to workaround this)
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Go here for proper credits and use: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s2/orig-development/2014-01-15-triangleaway-v3-26-t1494114