I just bought an MEX-BT2500 and had it installed - all at Circuit City, for the Americans on this forum.
Since I literally *just* got it, I will give an initial impression and then update this in a few days probably with some more info.
INITIAL IMPRESSION
Well, it looks nice. The buttons have blue LEDs. But that's not very important. Pairing it with the Hermes was pretty painless, you just turn it off and then hold the Equalizer/Bluetooth button >7 seconds. The passcode is, of course, 0000. It has three separate Bluetooth icons - one for it being off/on/discoverable, one for hands-free being connected, and one for A2DP being connected.
When re-pairing after turning it off or something, the A2DP mode does not reconnect automatically. I've tried pressing 6 (Pause) and that made it reconnect. Maybe there are other ways of doing it, I don't know.
I am still experimenting with the A2DP settings to figure out what sounds best - I am using the Microsoft stack, so I'm not expecting miracles here - so far, it sounds OK at BitPool/MaxBitPool = 58 and Joint Stereo = 1. Contrary to popular belief, Joint Stereo is NOT mono, but I have yet to determine whether the Microsoft stack thinks that. I just need to play the right song. I read somewhere on this forum that increasing BitPool/MaxBitPool to 72 while keeping Joint Stereo on sounds good, so I'll try that later.
I will try the hands-free mode later on as well. Updates to follow.
UPDATE 1: More on A2DP (and a bit of hands-free)
I set both of the BitPool values to 72 and enabled Joint Stereo. It works well. The sound is most definitely stereo, and the quality is a lot better than what it was with a lower BitPool and Joint Stereo off. I've never tried the Widcomm stack, so I can't compare it to that. I also tried hands-free calling, but it did not work at all. That turned out to be an issue with the ROM (because it no longer worked with my HT820 either), which has since been resolved by flashing a different ROM. One extremely disappointing thing is that it looks like, for making calls, you can only initiate a redial from the device. I haven't looked into that too much yet.
UPDATE 2: Hands-free
I still haven't been able to make it do anything but redial for initiating calls, but the call quality appears to be quite good, both for the person on the other end and for me. I have to say, I'm impressed by that, especially since the Parrot MK6000 apparently has a huge separate dual microphone that you have to mount in order to get clarity.
One thing that has started to annoy me is the beeping when I turn off my car. Apparently it's to remind me to take off the faceplate, but I don't always want to do that and it pretty damn annoying. I don't believe there is a way to turn that off. You can turn off other beeps, but not that one.
UPDATE 3: A2DP again
The wireless stereo really does work well! The Hermes is able to handle receiving Internet radio streams (www.di.fm in my case) and piping them through A2DP just fine using MortPlayer. Speaking of which, AVRCP works well. Play/pause, previous, and next buttons all work, but with a slight (<1 sec) delay, which is caused by something other than the BT2500 because the same delay occurs with the Motorola HT820. It's either an issue with MortPlayer or the Microsoft stack - I don't know which one since that is the only combination I've used that supports AVRCP.
One thing I have yet to try is receiving a call while listening to music. I will try to do it tomorrow and see what happens.
I've had the MEX-BT5000 (the BT2500's predecessor) since January & use it with my Wizard. I haven't had any issues with A2DP connections -- I've paired it only once when I installed the headunit.
The only time I have to reconnect is if the Sony powers up without my Wizard in range -- the next time I power up the Sony, it'll connect to the Wizard's hands-free profile, but not in A2DP. To reconnect A2DP, open up the Wizard's BT connections screen, select the MEX-BT5000 device, and right-click "Set as Wireless Stereo".
3waygeek said:
I've had the MEX-BT5000 (the BT2500's predecessor) since January & use it with my Wizard. I haven't had any issues with A2DP connections -- I've paired it only once when I installed the headunit.
The only time I have to reconnect is if the Sony powers up without my Wizard in range -- the next time I power up the Sony, it'll connect to the Wizard's hands-free profile, but not in A2DP. To reconnect A2DP, open up the Wizard's BT connections screen, select the MEX-BT5000 device, and right-click "Set as Wireless Stereo".
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Im fitting a BT5000 today in my new car. What car did you install yours in?
Ive fitted a new head unit to a vauxhall corsa before but never needed to use the smart cable for steering whell controls...is it dead easy?
P.S: the new car is a 2003 vauxhall astra
Does the BT5000 let you do voice dial through the Hermes/Wizard, or does it also just support last number redial? So far, I haven't been able to get it to do anything but redial for call initiation.
mrvanx said:
Im fitting a BT5000 today in my new car. What car did you install yours in?
Ive fitted a new head unit to a vauxhall corsa before but never needed to use the smart cable for steering whell controls...is it dead easy?
P.S: the new car is a 2003 vauxhall astra
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Mine is a 2002 Mitsubishi Diamante -- I had to get a $60 translation unit to interface the steering wheel controls to the headunit. Installing the translation unit took some doing -- they're a bit tricky to program.
Trancecoder said:
Does the BT5000 let you do voice dial through the Hermes/Wizard, or does it also just support last number redial? So far, I haven't been able to get it to do anything but redial for call initiation.
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Haven't tried voicedial -- I've got Voice Command 1.6 installed on the Wizard, so I think it'd work. I'll give it a try tomorrow.
Quick report back, had a right bastard of a time installing it LOL!
Vauxhall cables are deliberatly CRAPPY, i had to swap over two of the wires because the unit was not keeping the time or radio stations when i switched off the ignition. I also purchased a smart lead to enable the steering wheel controls.
Finally got it working, works an absolute DREAM with both A2DP and handsfree.
I am also thinking of getting the BT2500, but my big problem with it is the 'redial' problem. Apparently the BT5000 can download and store 50 numbers but doesn't allow for voicedial, (I've heard anyways)...
Trancecoder: Did you ever find something to trick the phone into launching voicedialing when a bluetooth redial was activated? What about the 1-6 buttons, can they be programmed for speeddials like the BT5000 ??
JamesManios - I don't believe the BT2500 downloads any contact info whatsoever, so those keys won't be able to be programmed. As for the redial vs voice dial issue, I haven't experimented much with it, so if there is a way to make it speed dial, I haven't found it yet.
Trancecoder: Thanks for the reply, how are you liking the unit now that you've had it for a while.
As an idea for dialing I was thinking of making an app to maybe accomplish it, but some of it I don't know how to do yet...
My idea was, have the app pole every 200msec or so and see if the phone has started dialing (that I pretty much know how to do), then see if you are connected to the bluetooth handsfree (don't know how to do that just yet)... then the program can assume that if you are dialing AND in the car (because you are connected), then you must be using the redial... STOP the redial and launch the VoiceDialing app...
It leads to some questions, like would the Stereo drop the BT connection and therefore the voice prompt would be from the phone speaker and using the phone mic and NOT the stereo...
I currently have this (which works very well), but not as clean as the stereo ... but I'm not sure I want to lose CallID and VoiceDial... to buy this unit.
http://www.vitebo.com/ny00050/produ...betiew&MenuID=28&BClassID=9&SClassID=0&PID=13
ive had a bmw m3 and the bluetooth sucks in it my infiniti much better. i always use my jawbone though. I may need to pick this one up.
JamesManios said:
Trancecoder: Thanks for the reply, how are you liking the unit now that you've had it for a while.
As an idea for dialing I was thinking of making an app to maybe accomplish it, but some of it I don't know how to do yet...
My idea was, have the app pole every 200msec or so and see if the phone has started dialing (that I pretty much know how to do), then see if you are connected to the bluetooth handsfree (don't know how to do that just yet)... then the program can assume that if you are dialing AND in the car (because you are connected), then you must be using the redial... STOP the redial and launch the VoiceDialing app...
It leads to some questions, like would the Stereo drop the BT connection and therefore the voice prompt would be from the phone speaker and using the phone mic and NOT the stereo...
I currently have this (which works very well), but not as clean as the stereo ... but I'm not sure I want to lose CallID and VoiceDial... to buy this unit.
http://www.vitebo.com/ny00050/produ...betiew&MenuID=28&BClassID=9&SClassID=0&PID=13
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The unit's pros outweigh its cons, at least for me personally. I receive a lot more calls than I make while driving, so the dialing issue is not a big deal for me. The person on the other end can definitely hear background noise, but they can still hear me pretty well when I have my windows open and driving ~50MPH. The unit also plays MP3 CDs, which is nice because I have some from when I was using my old MP3 CD player. A2DP quality is good, although occasionally there is a drop out for about half a second. Sometimes it happens 20 minutes into driving, sometimes not at all, so I have no idea what's causing it. Overall, I'm satisfied with it.
One thing I noticed is that when I press the Hermes button 5 (mapped to Cyberon Voice Commander) while fully connected to the BT2500, the "Say command" prompt goes out through the Hermes' speaker and not the BT2500. That may cause additional problems if you want to try and create a software fix for the auto-redial.
That Vitebo website is full of Engrish! "THE FRESH PET OF CAR ARTICLE" - what does that mean?
Ya, that website is pretty brutal, unfortunately the manual is similar but I got it finally figured it out (I hope)
I decided against the Sony and bought a none BT headunit, thanks for all the info though.
Had mine for 8 months now...
Excellent unit. I had BMW factory fit bluetooth in my old car, this is much clearer (VW Passat).
I used mune with an Artemis, and now an Elf/Touch...
It doesn't download a phonebook, so the only dialing it can do is redial last number - but just use PocketCm and dial with your finger!
Quality is good - I have found, however, that A2DP streaming breaks up unless I use Coreplayer, which is 100% perfect... and yes, pressing '6' a coupl eof times toggles on the bluetooth stereo on the device, which is good, because otherwise, I wouldn't be able to hear tomtom instructions if I had the radio on!
Sound quality all round is excellent - just a shame it dosn't have a steering-wheel mounted remote instead of the useless IR one...
Hi there folks!
Hope someone can tell me ANYTHING to keep me from losing it completely...
I upgraded to an X10 mini pro from my Nokia 5530 a few weeks ago, and aside from a minor issue where the hardware keyboard appeared to be dying (It 'lost' the symbol button, acting like I had disabled the Default Input - regardless of how the default input checkbox was set. Turns out it was a hair or something inside the keyboard itself, who knew?!)
Anyway. The BIG feature the Nokia had that I REALLY liked was it's ability to play music on a bluetooth headset.
Now, the headset I use is one glommed from a Playstation 3 kit - It's high bandwidth, if a little bulky compared to the true phone ones, but handles audio as well as a wired headset, up to around 15 feet after which is starts to fade a bit.
I had it working well on the Nokia, it behaves relativly well on the PC, despite the chassis blocking the dongle back there, but I cannot, CANNOT for the life of me, make it work on the X10 Mini Pro.
It works with VOICE just dandy, with all it's superb range and definition.
But music stubbornly refuses to play through it.
Is this an X10 thing? Is it an Android thing?
I searched a fair bit before posting this, but while people have discussed several bluetooth issues, none of them really seem to address exactly this problem.
Am i missing some awesome (But overlooked by me) app? Am I weird for not wanting to have wires wrapped around me while cycling?
Please help a hopeless n00b!
Dude........
I have the X10 mini and my DELL BH200 headset works great with it.
No problems...
Check if you have kept the headset in discovery mode or not...
tejagamer said:
Dude........
I have the X10 mini and my DELL BH200 headset works great with it.
No problems...
Check if you have kept the headset in discovery mode or not...
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It allows you to listen to music through it then? Because thats what I need. Aside from that, mine already works perfectly...
The headset itself syncsby holding the power button for a few seconds, and drops out of sync mode once its linked to the host.
Like I said, the headset works perfectly aside from not playing music. Een while connected, it ONLY plays music from the phone speaker.
Yes you can play music thru bluetooth with any android device. Android is fully A2DP and AVRC compatible.
It must be your headset.
I use three different bluetooth headsets with absolutely no problems. Music, movies you name it. No lag (as I had in my ipod)
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Okay, thanks for the replies! I will start trying out other headsets come payday! Being tightfisted I wanted to avoid the necessity but if you guys are having not trouble then it looks like I must bite the bullet.
Cheers!
- SIDER
Anyone know if its technically possible to get the sound routed to standard bluetooth 'hands-free' device. I know I've successfully done this on all my past devices with help of 3rd party software. I see several iterations of software for android out right now, but none have worked for me on Atrix.
I know buying a AD2P headset would be the ideal software free workaround. But I've tried a lot of bluetooth hands-free out there, and the one I have now is just so comfortable, I just can't switch to A2DP until it absolutely dies.
I've seen a few people requesting this across other forums, wondering if the Atrix is even accessible programming wise to do this?
thanks
I don't understand your question. I have a bluetooth headset which I play music on, and which auto cuts music for calls, has a mic, you can dial by voice command, etc.
It's hands free like any other bluetooth headset other than the power button, volume buttons, etc.
What exactly are you asking?
I believe OP is requesting any App that can be used to Hear Music on a Mono Bluetooth Headset which do not support A2DP Profile.
Using regular Bluetooth without A2DP profile will allow us to Just make /Receive Calls, not for Music.
I also tried BT Mono, but it didn't worked for Atrix and eager to know any other way we can able to hear music thru regular Bluetooth Headset
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I don't understand your question. I have a bluetooth headset which I play music on, and which auto cuts music for calls, has a mic, you can dial by voice command, etc.
It's hands free like any other bluetooth headset other than the power button, volume buttons, etc.
What exactly are you asking?
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SakDroid is correct. Not all bluetooth headsets support the AD2P profile, and some phones won't play music to them for a reason unknown to me. I've had 4 phones with this same bluetooth headset and only one of them natively would play music with it. All others I had to install app to redirect sound...such as the referred to BTmono. So I know it's possible on Android, just wondering if there is something preventing it on the Atrix, or just hasn't been developed yet.
I would gladly pay to get development started on this. Since I would have to pay money for one supporting A2DP, but you know how it is when you have that one that fits/works just perfectly. I've bought a few that do support the profile, but ended up returning them all, as they just weren't comfortable to wear very long.
Btmono worked for me on my samsung epic 4g on froyo....then sprint sent an ota update to their version of gingerbread 2.3.6. it is very phone specific with what your carrier puts out I think because my wife has an stock htc evo running 2.3.5, and my brother has samsung epic touch running 2.3.7 and both of those different phones work fine with it. So what did I do....I found a custom rom that was built off 2.2.1 froyo. I didn't read the full thread so I don't know what exactly what phone this is for. Only option is to get to know everything you can do with you phone, root it and try different roms. Young and old. Also...on the eipc forum we had a discussion about this....they all had the same issues with gb...even the custom roms. Would love for the developers to learn a work around, since is up their ally...but shortly after there was a good leak for ice cream sandwich which I tried and its pretty good...just a bit buggy for me. When all the kniks are work out will be moving onto that and bypassing any gb that is out for the epic. So my advise, again, is just try different stock roms first....just to find out which ones...if any will work. Then you will know what custom one to look for...if you into that sorta thing.
Sent from Phoenix II Epic 4g
Is there an app, widget, whatever that will allow me to easily switch the audio output from one device to another? e.g., I am connected to both headphones and a bluetooth A2DP device and audio is playing through the the A2DP. I want to be able to switch to headphones or even the built-in speaker without turning off the A2DP device or connecting/disconnecting the headphones.
I have a couple of devices that I would like to do this on:
Samsung Galaxy S3 (Sprint) w/ AOKP 4.2.1 (root access enabled)
Archos G9 w/ ICS 4.0.4 (root access enabled)
I have searched the Play Store, XDA, and the open interwebs for a solution, but search terms like "android audio output device switcher" are frustratingly broad and difficult to narrow. I previously came from an iOS background, where the audio switcher was built into the OS audio system, and the headphones, iPhone output, bluetooth, and any AirPlay devices could all be selected with relative ease. Ideally, I'd like something that works as easily, perhaps as a lockscreen or notifications widget. A solution that requires root would be fine.
Many thanks!
I was hoping to see any response or direction .. I'm also looking for a solution for this
Really late to reply, but SoundAbout should do that trick.
2018 and still nothing aside from SoundAbout, which crashes on me. ??
u can use lesser audioswitch from playstore.it works flawless.
Hello,
This issue has been driving me insane. It seems like some simple, artificial limitation that no one seems to circumvent. As the title suggests, I'm trying to force phone calls and especially VoiP calls (Discord, whatsapp..etc), to go through the high bitrate A2DP profile instead of the horrible HSP/HFP profile that butchers audio quality and uses the horrible bluetooth microphone.
For instance when music is streamed through a bot in Discord i have to listen to it in horrible earpiece-level phone call quality.
I feel like there's got to be a tweak, a Magisk module, a custom ROM functionality with root access that allow for this, something.. I found a couple old XDA posts about this but no solutions. Oh and also tried Lesser AudioSwitch on multiple Android versions, none worked.
It seems inherent to all bluetooth headphones which is a shame, they could cost 10k $, but the quality would still be sh*t in calls, both in and out, since mic is not close to the mouth.
I always loved Android for giving users more control, but sadly seems like this is more and more going away. What i want here, can very easily be done on PC.
Thank you for your time reading, really hope someone can help.