Hey guys, I'm new to the forum and looking for some answers about my phone. I am NOT a tech guy, but I rooted my Sprint HTC Evo 4g LTE recently, because I wanted to use my 32 Gb SD card to partition off 4 Gb of memory and turn it into more RAM. Unfortunately, I could not figure out how to make that work (anyone know a current, up-to-date walk-through for that procedure, I would be grateful). But I am now interested in finding a way to cure my phone of the hideous stock splash screen and boot animation, without flashing a new ROM or whatever. Apparently, from what I can gather, the new 4g LTE's boot directly from the "boot image", so if you change out the SPC_bootanimation (for example), or rename it, when you reboot, it reboots from the boot image and not from the files that were altered. This sucks. There must be a workaround for this that does not involve a noob like me trying to mess around with flashing a new ROM. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks guys!
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bigdaddy619 said:
Check the Themes and Apps section
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Could not find a post that addresses this particular issue. What I need is someone that knows what they are talking about to tell me if flashing a new ROM on my phone is the ONLY option, if I want to change/remove the stock boot animation/splash. I have tried several different methods, but no matter what I try, when I reboot all the file alterations I make are removed, as the boot image is used to mirror all "system" files.
Bacanalia73 said:
Could not find a post that addresses this particular issue. What I need is someone that knows what they are talking about to tell me if flashing a new ROM on my phone is the ONLY option, if I want to change/remove the stock boot animation/splash. I have tried several different methods, but no matter what I try, when I reboot all the file alterations I make are removed, as the boot image is used to mirror all "system" files.
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There should be some boot ani zips in Themes and apps and most likely the reason they won't stay with the ani you pick is because HTC has made it harder to modify our phones by locking down the ability to write to system.
As for the splash screen you need to be S-OFF to change splash screens.
S-OFF will most likely fix the boot ani from changing also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2223142
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1747313
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OK, please excuse my ignorance . . .
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2223142
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1747313
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Just so I am completely clear on the process of installing your boot animations -- I have a rooted (S-ON) HTC Evo 4g LTE, Hardware Version 0003, Software Version 3.16.651.3 71ORD, Android Version 4.1.1, HTC sense version 4+, HTC SDK API level 4.63, PRI Version 2.97_003, PRL version 25015 (I list all of this information because I am not really clear on what is relevant to this particular issue). Now, am I correct in my understanding that if I download the list of plug-ins you provided, and then download the animation zip file (and I am not clear exactly where I need to place this file after I download it), that is all there is to it? Do I need to download Cinema4d, or any other program to make this work? And how does this take care of the problem of the phone rebooting from the boot image and replacing the bootanimation.zip I install? Every time I install bootanimation.zip, when I reboot, all my work is erased with the original boot image. Does one of these plug-ins take care of this problem?
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Yo need to get s-off to do the changes that you want, since you are s-on and running 3.16 that prevents you from making any changes to the system, just Google about that issue and you should find lots of info about it, flar2 found a way to bypass that and and with his Kernels allowed the s-on users to do things like what you are trying to get done, go get s-off and you should be able to change anything you want on your phone without any issues, since you are on 3.16 look for moonshine in the original development thread for this phone... And... Good Luck!
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Thanks for the help
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Yo need to get s-off to do the changes that you want, since you are s-on and running 3.16 that prevents you from making any changes to the system, just Google about that issue and you should find lots of info about it, flar2 found a way to bypass that and and with his Kernels allowed the s-on users to do things like what you are trying to get done, go get s-off and you should be able to change anything you want on your phone without any issues, since you are on 3.16 look for moonshine in the original development thread for this phone... And... Good Luck!
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OK, from what I can determine, the Moonshine procedure for S-Off on my HTC 3.16 is beyond my technical capabilities. I do not understand several of the steps involved in the walkthrough, so that probably means I should not be messing around with it. And if I understand this correctly, with the phone rooted with S-On, I will be unable to download any updates to firmware/software that HTC might release in the future. And in order to unroot my phone, I need to get S-off. So, I guess I will just suck it up and endure the hideous boot animation, since apparently I have no realistic option that does not involve jumping through absurdly elaborate technical hoops just to change my boot animation (which is exactly what HTC was counting on when they designed 3.16, I am assuming). And when the new updates come out for my phone, I will determine if they are worth learning the necessary technical expertise required to S-off my phone to unroot and download updates. If any of you experts find any of this to be inaccurate or otherwise incorrect, please feel free to educate me. I am a stranger in a strange land with all this android/Linux stuff -- my tech world has always revolved around Windows.
Thanks for all the help guys!
Moonshine is windows friendly as far as I know, you just have to use cmd as an administrator and its fully automated if you have the right drivers, just read the op and follow the instructions to the dot, you should be able to do it, don't be scared, there is nothing that you can break that someone in this forum can help you to fix! Good luck!
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Moonshine is windows friendly as far as I know, you just have to use cmd as an administrator and its fully automated if you have the right drivers, just read the op and follow the instructions to the dot, you should be able to do it, don't be scared, there is nothing that you can break that someone in this forum can help you to fix! Good luck!
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+1 to this, there are tons of people here to help. I used the moonshine, followed the instructions to a tee, and everything worked just as it should.
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Ok, so over on the Shift forums, they stumbled upon a way to downgrade your device to allow nand unlocking. *All credit goes to ScaryGhoul, and Otaking71*
Basically by using a temproot method (which the 3D has), and using a misc.img partition from another phone (The Tbolt for this instance), they were able to trick the Hboot security check into allowing older RUU's to be run against the device.
According to Scary, and Otaking the dev work behind this should work for other devices, as long as you are able to identify which BLK houses the hidden partition that Hboot uses to check everything it flashes. As they outlined it is usually "misc", or hboot -1, in the case of the Evo shift, their Hboot partition is mmcblk0p18, so since the hidden partition is hboot -1, it would be mmcblk0p17.
Following their theory, If someone is willing to try this we would need to know which partition the Evo 3D uses for Hboot, we would also need to know if the 3D uses emmc or mtd blocks. If it is emmc the same commands with the proper mmc blocks will work, if it is mtd, we would need to reference the original EVO 4G root method to figure out how to force the hboot to bypass the security checks.
Here is the full post laying out the ground work necessary, including reference to the original Evo 4G root method. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255474
If this works, then it will allow us to run the original RUU for the Evo 3D, essentially downgrading the device from Hboot 1.5 to Hboot 1.30, which then allows the device to be rooted with Revolutionary instead of being forced to use HTC's Unlock method.
Is there anyone out there willing to help dig into this, to see if we can roll back the Hboot of the Evo 3D to allow revolutionary to root it?
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The direction I am going with this is, If we can force the Hboot to allow downgrades, then that should mean that we should technically be able to force the hboot to downgrade itself, theoretically taking the hboot from 1.50 to 1.30 or 1.40 depending on whichever one you can get your hands on. Also here is some more info added to the whole wrack your brain process this is becoming. Also please ignore my odd way of thinking, I'm trying to think whether or not this is possible, while at the same time gathering data and trying to formulate a process to make it work. I could be entirely wrong about the whole thing, but you never know until you have it looked into and reviewed.
So first step to digging, It looks like the Evo 3D does indeed have emmc partitions http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1197315
Which makes using their method easier to accomplish.
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I accidentally figured this out.
You'll need temp root on the phone. Use any temp rooting method.
Push the extracted misc.img file to the sdcard.
Once you have root, dd the misc.img to the partition just above hboot.
In the case of the shift and the thunderbolt this is /dev/block/mmcblk0p17
Once this is done..you can proceed to use any ruu (the full executable) or any properly signed AND named zip from hboot.
This has only been tested on the shift...but the theory is sound. If you are doing this on anything other than a shift/tb....please check the size of the partition just above hboot.
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We should also be able to use the misc.img file from the Tbolt that they used, as long as the size doesnt conflict with the 3D, the version is lower than that of the 3D, so it is still staying true to their groundwork.
So now knowing all of this, we just need someone willing to perform this to try and see if the HBoot can be downgraded accordingly since sofar everything is appearing to line up nicely.
The other question I would then propose is, If this is possible, could it work for 3D's that were unlocked using HTC's method. ie. Unlock with HTC's method, flash a rooted ROM, perform the hboot security bypass using the misc.img file. Then run an RUU that is from the 1.30 or 1.40 HBoot to return the device back to stock, after re-root using revolutionary.
One final thing, The only reason I am bringing this straight to the community without diving into it myself, is that I presently don't have a 3D to work with, but at the same time was tasked by several people that Have 3D's that took the OTA to HBoot 1.50, to see if there was a way to revert the process. That and I have no idea which mmcblk is the hboot partition for the 3D.
Sorry but this was one of the first things that was tried and multiple people have confirmed it's a no go. A little searching should be able to pull up some of the older threads that have more info about it in them.
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Sorry but this was one of the first things that was tried and multiple people have confirmed it's a no go. A little searching should be able to pull up some of the older threads that have more info about it in them.
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Thanks, yeah I searched but didn't will admit didn't look as hard as I should have.
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Sorry but this was one of the first things that was tried and multiple people have confirmed it's a no go. A little searching should be able to pull up some of the older threads that have more info about it in them.
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I just looked into what you posted xHausx, and I can only find threads where people tried to just flash a new Hboot ontop of the 1.50 HBoot, however this is known not to work because HTC does not fully unlock the HBoot, What I am proposing is forcing the HBoot to act like it is 100% unlocked to allow downgrading by using the misc.img file from the TBolt, like they did with the Evo Shift, I searched and searched, and cannot find anyone even attempting to modify the security of the HBoot -1 partition by using an unlocked bootloader from another device. So I am bringing this theory back up for testing, and for someone to show me where this method was tried and failed. Since as mentioned, I can only locate attempts to flash a bootloader ontop of a still locked bootloader.
If this is viable then it should also be useful for GSM E3D right?
Actually there is no temp root for updated Evo 3D's with 1.50 HBOOT and 2.3.4...HTC patched the exploit that was used to gain temp root. The only way this will work is if you already used HTC's unlocking method and use a rooted ROM. I am still on 1.40 and can't help(I probably wouldn't be much use anyway), but I would get into contact with Treve from the Synergy Rom. He has done all kinds of stuff with download mode and messing with the partitions before full root was available. He may not know of this hidden partition and may be able to help you out.
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Actually there is no temp root for updated Evo 3D's with 1.50 HBOOT and 2.3.4...HTC patched the exploit that was used to gain temp root. The only way this will work is if you already used HTC's unlocking method and use a rooted ROM. I am still on 1.40 and can't help(I probably wouldn't be much use anyway), but I would get into contact with Treve from the Synergy Rom. He has done all kinds of stuff with download mode and messing with the partitions before full root was available. He may not know of this hidden partition and may be able to help you out.
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As suggested I contacted TrevE regarding this, and he didn't outright say that it wasn't possible, but without a temproot for the latest version, it basically came down to this. Obtain root via HTC's unlock, then attempt the patch, and then attempt the downgrade.
Any luck with this Khilbron?
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Any luck with this Khilbron?
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its been 3 months...... not trolling but god damn way to rise a dead thread
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its been 3 months...... not trolling but god damn way to rise a dead thread
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I am relatively new to this forum. Is there a time limit on threads? Is there a point where a user is no longer permitted to post a question in a thread?
Maybe an Admin can let me know if I have done something wrong?
I guess I could have IMd him.
Thanks for your useful input nate420
Evo3Duzer said:
I am relatively new to this forum. Is there a time limit on threads? Is there a point where a user is no longer permitted to post a question in a thread?
Maybe an Admin can let me know if I have done something wrong?
I guess I could have IMd him.
Thanks for your useful input nate420
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Nope dude there is no problem with asking questions and raising "dead" threads. It shows that you are searching. If you had not searched then you would have been flamed for not searching. Unfortunately, on this forum, you are damned if you do and damned if you don't. Some people get their panties in a bunch for no reason at all.
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Nope dude there is no problem with asking questions and raising "dead" threads. It shows that you are searching. If you had not searched then you would have been flamed for not searching. Unfortunately, on this forum, you are damned if you do and damned if you don't. Some people get their panties in a bunch for no reason at all.
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chill dude i said i wasnt trolling
but if you see that their hasnt been an update in 3 months... by OP or ANYONE is there a point to ask for a update on the status?
sorry if my logic seems back asswards
but yes good job for searching before cheating a new thread ill give you both a thanks since im gonna be out of this forum soon
Searching this out is kind of depressing. no S Off on 1.5 and no downgrading off 1.5.... man atleast i have Flash GUI
Lately I have read many posts with wrong assumptions about S-OFF. I am writing this post in General to clear up to many of you what S-OFF is and isn't.
To start off, S-OFF has nothing to do with your phone being rooted. I've seen people post that S-OFF means a "full" root, or "permanent" root. Those terms aren't even correct, root is just another user on the linux system, and you either have access to it or you don't. Rooting your phone and what that entails is out of the scope of this writeup.
When your device is shipped, your bootloader will show the flag S-ON. This stands for Security-On. What this security does is protect the NAND partitions (ie: the boot partition, the recovery partition, the radio, the system partition...) from being permanently modified at all. Basically, all changes made to these partitions while the phone is running is not permanent, and will be reset upon a reboot. Also, while your phone is S-ON, all firmware zips (ie: PJ75IMG.zip) must be digitally signed by HTC in order to be flashed through the bootloader.
When your device is set to S-OFF, the security is turned off. This allows you to modify any partition on the device, and changes will not be reset upon a reboot. Also, the signature checking of the firmware zips (ie: PJ75IMG.zip) is disabled, allowing users to flash unsigned firmware zips containing the separate images of the partitions. S-OFF gives the user great power over the device, but also comes with much responsibility to be careful.
I have seen many posts stating the term "S-OFF root". As I stated earlier, S-OFF and root are completely different things. When you have S-OFF in the bootloader, you then can flash a package containing Superuser.apk and the su binary, which in turn will give you root in the file system when the device is booted. Again, S-OFF does not mean you have root. You can have S-OFF set (if there was an S-OFF exploit released) on the stock phone running the stock unchanged ROM, and not have root in the file system because you haven't pushed/flashed the Superuser.apk and su binaries on your phone yet.
I have also seen many posts about people not "trusting" the bootloader unlock at HTCdev. Yes, we all know that it does not set the bootloader to S-OFF, but it does unlock the partitions that are needed to flash a custom recovery, and through that flash a custom ROM. This is probably the most trustworthy way to "unlock" the bootloader. Any S-OFF method released here in the future will most likely be a hack to make it work. Imagine if HTC gave out the radio S-OFF unlock. That would mean ANYONE (specifically people who are very flash happy) could find a random radio firmware zip which.. oops.. isn't for the correct device, flash it through the S-OFF bootloader, and brick their device. Releasing the limited unlocking was very smart by HTC, and will definitely save many phones from ending up in the graveyard.
Now I am not saying I do not want S-OFF haha. As a developer, S-OFF is well needed and is extremely useful. It's definitely being worked on. But for the average flasher, (of ROMs, not human parts ) radio S-OFF is not needed.
Hope this clears up confusion about what S-ON and S-OFF is. I will add to this as I feel necessary, and to clear up some of my sentences (Sometimes I start typing before I finish thinking of what I'm going to type).
Thank you.
Thank you soooo much haha so many people were confused about it...
A good example is my moms phone. She has an evo 3d and I made it s-off with eng hboot in case I sell it at a later time. Currently it's not rooted at all, but if I want to considering my bootloader's unlocked I could easily flash a recovery and then flash superuser which in turn gives me root
make the subject a bit more clearer
cuz when i saw it i thought that you had s-off for us lol
please sticky this!
If I may add to this discussion ...
If you do not already know these terms and what they mean you should probably not be attempting to root your phone yet
You should instead invest some time reading and learning first.
Unreasnbl said:
If I may add to this discussion ...
If you do not already know these terms and what they mean you should probably not be attempting to root your phone yet
You should instead invest some time reading and learning first.
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Or, rather, you should not be attempting to gain access to the root user / superuser account and privileges on your phone.
Updated the title just for clarity. If there's anything someone disagrees with or would like to add to the OP, let me know here and I'll see what I can do. And I definitely agree with Unreasnbl. It may be a pain in the a$$ to read before jumping into things, but seriously, it will help so much when it comes understanding.
Unreasnbl said:
If I may add to this discussion ...
If you do not already know these terms and what they mean you should probably not be attempting to root your phone yet
You should instead invest some time reading and learning first.
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I rooted, with S-off, and flashed my phone before I understood any of these terms lol. Just by following instructions clearly.
But then later I learned all of these things.
But yes, you are absolutely correct.
edit: this is a good, valuable post op. Thank you.
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I rooted, with S-off, and flashed my phone before I understood any of these terms lol. Just by following instructions clearly.
But then later I learned all of these things.
But yes, you are absolutely correct.
edit: this is a good, valuable post op. Thank you.
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I think you just prooved the OP correct, you shouldn't have S-OFF, because it doesn't exist yet and you don't need it and that's probably good for person that thinks they rooted with S-off.
Thank you
Thank you for the great info! While not a noob(have had rooted, s-off OG 4G, and 3D, just rooted EVO LTE), I don't understand, nor want to, at an advanced level, Linux, ADB,FASTBOOT, etc. I like making my phone my own, and like flashing ROM's. I tried to use the HTC method of unlocking, but am just not comfortable with my skills to try and use SDK/ADB/FASTBOOT. Perhaps I can find someone in San Antonio to show me, but unless/until, I'll wait for someone such as yourself to provide a "dumbed-down" method. Again, thanks for sharing your knowledge and expertise.
Update: Couldn't stand it..went ahead, carefully reading and following instructions, and did HTC unlock. Had a few issues with TWRP, and flashing ViperROM, due to internal/sd configuration, but moved things to their proper place with ROM toolbox. Everything in it's place, and my phone running like I like it for almost 24 hours with no issues, other than the hilarious HTC warning at boot screen.
Thanks regaw for taking your time with this. If you don't end up with 500 thanks ill be shocked lol
I personally want S-Off.
Mainly because I prefer not notify HTC that I'm unlocked.
Occasionally it's fun to dabble in trying newer radios and is sometimes required for later releases of the OS. Radio firmware can add or take away some functionality as well (like VPN).
Yes, we know it's dangerous, it's pretty rare folks dork their phones because they had s-off. But one of the worst examples is the flash happy folks on the EVO 3D that flashed Virgin Mobile firmware and should not have (myself included).
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Thank you for the great info! While not a noob(have had rooted, s-off OG 4G, and 3D, just rooted EVO LTE), I don't understand, nor want to, at an advanced level, Linux, ADB,FASTBOOT, etc. I like making my phone my own, and like flashing ROM's. I tried to use the HTC method of unlocking, but am just not comfortable with my skills to try and use SDK/ADB/FASTBOOT. Perhaps I can find someone in San Antonio to show me, but unless/until, I'll wait for someone such as yourself to provide a "dumbed-down" method. Again, thanks for sharing your knowledge and expertise.
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It's really not that hard. No harder than figuring out how to use recovery, bootloader etc.. The current root procedure you just did on the LTE used ADB !! Just follow procedures.
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If you do not already know these terms and what they mean you should probably not be attempting to root your phone yet
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Maybe you could direct them to some good reading material -- like the first post.
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Great thread, Daniel.
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I think you just prooved the OP correct, you shouldn't have S-OFF, because it doesn't exist yet and you don't need it and that's probably good for person that thinks they rooted with S-off.
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Nice try at being a smart ass bro, but I was talking about when I first started, on the htc Evo 4G.
Before that I had the incredible and droid 1 and I just used the one click roots.
Great post. I don't like it when people use the incorrect terms either, and have made similar posts on other forums, specifically relating to the OG. I usually recommend that noobs that "want to root" use the HTC unlocker because, as you pointed out, it's a safer solution for those that don't really know what they're doing.
Unfortunately, because that process is somewhat involved, many users new to Android or just not technically inclined prefer to use what this community has to offer. That's good, I suppose, as that's one of the reasons this community exists, but I strongly feel like it takes away some user responsibility to get to know their device. If people would take the time to learn about adb and fastboot and find out what an RUU is and what the /misc partition is, I feel like there would a lot more contributors on this forum than whining leechers.
I've personally never been one to follow instructions without first at least trying to understand what I'm doing, but I guess not everyone is like that.
At any rate, thanks for the post, and I'm sure I'll see everyone around a bit more once Amazon finally delivers my phone.
Very informational.But just to clarify:
If I were to have S-OFF, I can repartition the onboard storage so that instead of having 2gb of app storage, I can have say 6 or 10gb? That's what I really want to do.
Thanks for clarifying this OP. I personally knew what S-OFF meant but alot of folks on this phone are obviously new to roooting and had no idea about any of this.
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Thank you for the clarification
Hello. Never made a thread before and was really hoping I wouldn't have to or would find an answer elsewhere.
Since that didn't work out, here's my problem:
Background: Evo 3d, virgin mobile, unlocked bootloader, s-off, hboot was at 1.50, and I don't remember what the radio was at. I was running CM11 and was quite happy until two days ago when I stopped receiving texts! No clue why, just stopped. Hangouts, etc etc. Called VM and they had no idea why that was happening either. Tried switching roms, reinstalling backups, etc etc. Clean wipes and all. Then I saw someone said they had to [for some reason] reinstall everything stock and then they had messaging back. So that's what I set out to do.
In Between: Used the RUU that I'm fairly certain came with my phone. Everything was good, it erased everything, and "updated system" and signatures. It was almost finished when BAM, popped up with error 152 Image Update Error; right at the very end. Quite disappointing. Tried it multiple times again with the same result. Not sure what to do.
Current: Only screen I can see (looks like shortened bootloader screen) says "***locked***" at the top, hboot 1.57.0000, radio 1.06.00.126, then says openADSP-v02.6.0.2226.00.0217eMMc-boot
Also tried flashing the unlock_code.bin, and while it took it, it changed nothing. One screen I did see very briefly but cannot replicate said that everything was there except system. Not really sure how to take that or what to do. Any and all help would be helpful. As is it sits on the HTC screen with exclamation points in each corner. When unplugged from usb it gives me that above screen. Removing battering and restarting to bootloader still gives the same screen.
Did you run ruu through windows or pg86img.zip?
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Did you run ruu through windows or pg86img.zip?
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Through Windows; the RUU exe.
SammyMak said:
Through Windows; the RUU exe.
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You can try this
https://www.dropbox.com/s/d4baafpgchgg4ef/ruu-PG86IMG.zip
Put that on the root of your SD card and rename to pg86img.zip
Make sure its the only one there
Boot to boot loader and accept updates
It may reboot itself to bootloader, if it asks to accept again then accept
When its done reboot your phone
Rename or remove the file when done
Hope that helps
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So I have my phone working now. I think it was the RUU.exe that I was using. I downloaded a different one from here http://androidruu.com/Shooter/ after much googling. That finally restored it to original VM stock rom etc. I couldn't use your method of placing the zip onto the root of my SD because despite it being there, it wouldn't go through the normal search for the file. I would remove the battery, put it back in, use the button key combo to try and open to bootloader, and it would go but it would be the page with the status and then it would instantly go back to the black screen with HTC logo.
Thank you for your help though!
Also I'm not sure how useful exactly this will be for anyone else, but if you find yourself ruu'd and needing better files...
The hboot ENG 1.04 I got from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1817513
ALL other downloads of that hboot did not work AT ALL.
I got the updated radio from here: http://androidforums.com/cdma-evo-3d-all-things-root/648902-radios-hboot-firmware-all-downloads.html
The hboots on that site however are stock and most likely won't run the custom roms as well, if at all, as 1.04.
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I got the updated radio from here: http://androidforums.com/cdma-evo-3d-all-things-root/648902-radios-hboot-firmware-all-downloads.html
But the hboots on the site aren't helpful fyi
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Hey, that's my thread. Just curious what you mean by the hboots aren't helpful?
If there is a problem I'm unaware of, I'd be happy to know what it is so I can get it squared away.
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You can try this
https://www.dropbox.com/s/d4baafpgchgg4ef/ruu-PG86IMG.zip
Put that on the root of your SD card and rename to pg86img.zip
Make sure its the only one there
Boot to boot loader and accept updates
It may reboot itself to bootloader, if it asks to accept again then accept
When its done reboot your phone
Rename or remove the file when done
Hope that helps
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thank you!
Brian706 said:
Hey, that's my thread. Just curious what you mean by the hboots aren't helpful?
If there is a problem I'm unaware of, I'd be happy to know what it is so I can get it squared away.
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I must apologize! I seem to have mis stated that; they are helpful with regards to them being the stock hboots. However in my particular case those stock hboots weren't for me. I'll edit that here in a sec, but if I was going back to full stock I'd definitely use your stock VM hboot and it would be helpful in that case. Hope that makes sense, no disrespect meant!
SammyMak said:
I must apologize! I seem to have mis stated that; they are helpful with regards to them being the stock hboots. However in my particular case those stock hboots weren't for me. I'll edit that here in a sec, but if I was going back to full stock I'd definitely use your stock VM hboot and it would be helpful in that case. Hope that makes sense, no disrespect meant!
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Thanks for clarifying that! I see what you meant now.
No worries, I didn't take offense or think you were disrespectful; I just wanted to make sure the downloads were working properly!
And for the record, the stock hboots will work just fine with custom roms. Hboot 1.50 for example will be compatible with the same selection of roms as JuopunutBear 1.50.5050. The difference is that JuopunutBear is patched and will allow for extra fastboot commands and allow them to be run on a locked bootloader.
The eng 1.04 hboot allows for extra fastboot commands that the stock hboot cannot. But you can boot any rom out there on the stock hboots. I've used stock 1.50 forever on this device.
This is my first time posting on here so I’ll get right to it. I’m currently using a stock HTC EVO 4G LTE, running Android 4.1.1, and I’m interested in flashing the Dirty Unicorns 4.4.4 ROM. I understand how flashing ROMs works and most everything else, except for kernels, but not enough so that I’m entirely confident in doing it without at least some help and advice from people who are more experienced with it. I’ve seen many methods of unlocking the bootloader, rooting, and going s-off such as WinDroid and RegawMOD and other methods, but is there a specific way to do it that’s better than the rest? There seems to be a lot of conflicting sources, some supposedly more simple and/or reliable than others. HTCDev’s unlock tool seems like it should help too, but I’ve only seen someone mention it once saying that it should be used. I don’t know whether or not it is reliable, and if it would limit me in any way or cause any problems. I’m a little hesitant when it comes to the aforementioned solutions because it seems like if they worked well then more people would use them, but maybe I’m just being too cautious haha.
What would be the best way to go from complete stock to the 4.3 RUU that HTC released, which I think Captain_Throwback still has a link to, and then to Dirty Unicorns 4.4.4? I saw that you needed to be on 4.3 to make sure to get the new partition layout. Not asking for someone to list it in a reply or go out of their way to help if it’s listed somewhere else, especially since I’m new to this. Links to reliable tutorials and guides that are trusted and known to work would be greatly appreciated, preferably something more recent. Just worried about missing a step, such as needing to deactivate Google Wallet and making sure HTC Sync Manager is uninstalled and disabled, and using TWRP instead of CWM, all of which I’ve seen mentioned a couple of times. I’m just looking for some guidance as to which tutorial is good and reliable, and maybe a little more simple, since there are so many, and some that seem useful are older.
Sorry if this isn’t the correct place to ask this, and thanks for any help. I know it’s a lot to ask so I don’t expect anyone to go through too much trouble to help; even a preexisting helpful guide would be great. The way I look at it, you can never know too much about all of this kind of stuff, and I want to be careful.
1. Run the 4.13.651.4 RUU. Link & info can be found in the OP of my Hboot guide (1st link in my sig). Afterwards you will need to unlock your bootloader again with HTC Dev.
2. Install TWRP 2.8.0.3. Link can be found in post #3 of the thread below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639180
3. Install DU. Profit?
Magnum_Enforcer said:
1. Run the 4.13.651.4 RUU. Link & info can be found in the OP of my Hboot guide (1st link in my sig). Afterwards you will need to unlock your bootloader again with HTC Dev.
2. Install TWRP 2.8.0.3. Link can be found in post #3 of the thread below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639180
3. Install DU. Profit?
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Thanks for replying, I appreciate it. Mind me asking if there's any easier way to go s-off and unlock the bootloader? I saw RegawMOD mentioned some just because it streamlined the process, but idk if it still works since it goes through HTCDev, and HTC might have blocked it since then. And does the RUU automatically make me use the new partition? I don't know a whole lot about partitions when it comes to this, I saw that DU needed the new partition so I'd just like to make sure I'm using it. Thanks for the help
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RegawMod no longer works as a viable option to root your device (it has been blocked by HTC for some time now). The RUU I mentioned will change your partition setup & put you on the new partition layout. Once you've updated via RUU and installed TWRP recovery, I recommend flashing the latest update of SuperSU in recovery, then use the Firewater method to gain S-off before flashing the Dirty Unicorns ROM.
You can get the latest SuperSU file from the link below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
Magnum_Enforcer said:
RegawMod no longer works as a viable option to root your device (it has been blocked by HTC for some time now). The RUU I mentioned will change your partition setup & put you on the new partition layout. Once you've updated via RUU and installed TWRP recovery, I recommend flashing the latest update of SuperSU in recovery, then use the Firewater method to gain S-off before flashing the Dirty Unicorns ROM.
You can get the latest SuperSU file from the link below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
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Alright thank you, you've been really helpful. There's just so much out of date information that I wanted to make sure. I rather figure things out now and plan instead of trying to figure it all out as I go along haha. I always prefer being prepared, I don't want to be one of those people that brick their phones and then have to ask. Thanks I really appreciate it
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NickC713 said:
Thanks for replying, I appreciate it. Mind me asking if there's any easier way to go s-off and unlock the bootloader? I saw RegawMOD mentioned some just because it streamlined the process, but idk if it still works since it goes through HTCDev, and HTC might have blocked it since then. And does the RUU automatically make me use the new partition? I don't know a whole lot about partitions when it comes to this, I saw that DU needed the new partition so I'd just like to make sure I'm using it. Thanks for the help
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Just to chime in here, but the latest version of DU can use old or new partitions. Not saying that you shouldn't go to the new, because there are many benefits, but just saying that you don't HAVE to in order to run DU ROM.
bpaulien said:
Just to chime in here, but the latest version of DU can use old or new partitions. Not saying that you shouldn't go to the new, because there are many benefits, but just saying that you don't HAVE to in order to run DU ROM.
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Ok thanks I was going to go to new, I just wanted to make sure I would be doing it correctly. Trying to cover all the bases haha
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Hello everyone who happens to read this!
I'm new to the forum and new to android (Was an apple peasant for the longest)
BUT I NEED HELP!!!
Ok so long story short I got a Htc Evo 3D about a month ago and sunk a manageable amount of money into it to fix it up, case, ect ect.
It works good, but with the measly 1gb internal storage in comparison to the 16gb internal I had on my Iphone 4, I had to sacrifice most of my apps when I switched. 5 of the main apps are already blocked from updating, most of the stock apps were uninstalled to the factory version but I still have to clear the cache every time an app needs to update. I can't move any more apps to my 8gb SD card, which is hardly touched.
So here is my questions to you guys.
Now keep in mind im brand new to android so im not exactly able to write html or command line or linux or whatever the heck android uses, so if any of the below are possible, please be as specific as possible as to what I will need to do. Thanks!
- Im thinking of rooting my device. Iv not found a single tutorial saying EXACTLY what I need to do so I'v nit-picked a bunch of tools suggested from several places.
- Is rooting going to help with my storage issue?
- I'v read a few places where people swapped the internal and external storage via what I assume was programming line, could I do that to my device? Has anyone else done it?
- I'v picked a few potential ROMs that I might use, but I'm wondering if I would be able to customize it once it's installed?
-- I want to remove the giant "Airplane Mode Is On" icon from the lock screen while still having Airplane mode on, since I'm currently only using the phone on wifi anyway.
--- I also want to remove the sounds the camera makes when being manually focused in with the button.
- I'v seen a few ROMs with "Full Beats Support", and I would like to have that also if I end up having to make my own ROM.
Aside from the above, I want to keep as much of a stock look as I can, since I really do like the stock look.
Any help you guys can give me is greatly appreciated! I'm just worried Ill have to but a different android phone to use, or worse, go back to my slow as **** Iphone 4.
Thanks!
Need info about your phone,
CDMA or GSM?
HBoot version.
Do you know if phone's HBoot is unlocked?
Or is s-off?
What Android version is installed?
It will take a lot of learning but we are here to help, or at less I am.
I have no idea what you already know, I will not assume.
The Hboot is like the BIOS, it initializes hardware and load OS into memory. The OS is the Kernel which is part of the boot partition. Android is a user interface, like Windows, I know lines get blurred. between OS and user interface. Root, ie superuser, is the same as administrator. Rooting is just giving you admin rights. Unlocking hboot grants you to install custom rom, recovery, or kernel. With those you can root or be rooted. S-off turns off all security checks so you can install custom hboot.
jcfunk said:
Need info about your phone,
CDMA or GSM?
HBoot version.
It will take a lot of learning but we are here to help, or at less I am.
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CDMA (no sim Sprint version so i assume it is)
Hboot is 1.58.0000
Hope that helps
e343balla said:
CDMA (no sim Sprint version so i assume it is)
Hboot is 1.58.0000
Hope that helps
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Sorry was editing my post to add more info.
I didn't unlock my hboot, it messes with DRM. I s-off by using Unknownforce's Method to downgrade hboot and revolutionary to s-off.
jcfunk said:
Sorry was editing my post to add more info.
I didn't unlock my hboot, it messes with DRM. I s-off by using Unknownforce's Method to downgrade hboot and revolutionary to s-off.
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there a reason for unlocking or locking my s-off and hboot version? I just read what they are used for on another forum
As far as I know the phone wasn't modified by anyone prior
e343balla said:
there a reason for unlocking or locking my s-off and hboot version? I just read what they are used for on another forum
As far as I know the phone wasn't modified by anyone prior
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HTCDev unlock
http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader
Hboot is the bootloader
Unlock basically lets you load unsigned code, meaning not made by HTC. Drawback is that it messes up Digital Rights Management, not a big deal.
S-off
is a Security off, getting s-off is not allowed by HTC
but can be done. There are 2 methods
Revolutionary
http://revolutionary.io/
Requires Hboot version 1.4 and Rom 1.13
JuopunutBear S-OFF*
http://unlimited.io/juopunutbear.htm
Requires HTC unlock and wire trick.
To just Root stock rom, all you need is a custom recovery
unofficial twrp will install SU, superuser, automatically.
e343balla said:
So here is my questions to you guys.
- Is rooting going to help with my storage issue?
- I'v read a few places where people swapped the internal and external storage via what I assume was programming line, could I do that to my device? Has anyone else done it?
- I'v picked a few potential ROMs that I might use, but I'm wondering if I would be able to customize it once it's installed?
-- I want to remove the giant "Airplane Mode Is On" icon from the lock screen while still having Airplane mode on, since I'm currently only using the phone on wifi anyway.
--- I also want to remove the sounds the camera makes when being manually focused in with the button.
- I'v seen a few ROMs with "Full Beats Support", and I would like to have that also if I end up having to make my own ROM.
Aside from the above, I want to keep as much of a stock look as I can, since I really do like the stock look.
Any help you guys can give me is greatly appreciated! I'm just worried Ill have to but a different android phone to use, or worse, go back to my slow as **** Iphone 4.
Thanks!
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1. Yes, rooting may help with storage issue. Sound like your on android 2.3 GingerBread. But I guess it could be an issue on 4.0 IceCreamSandwhich.
2. Yes possible to swap data and sdcard. But needs alot of work to do it. Very custom.
3. Most ROMs can be customized, there are many apps that can do this.
4. Lock screens, there are many and I'm sure there is a way to remove airplane mode indicator.
5. There are mods to remove camera sound.
6. Beats audio, it's included in most.
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1. Yes, rooting may help with storage issue. Sound like your on android 2.3 GingerBread. But I guess it could be an issue on 4.0 IceCreamSandwhich.
2. Yes possible to swap data and sdcard. But needs alot of work to do it. Very custom.
3. Most ROMs can be customized, there are many apps that can do this.
4. Lock screens, there are many and I'm sure there is a way to remove airplane mode indicator.
5. There are mods to remove camera sound.
6. Beats audio, it's included in most.
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I am on ICS 4.0.3, which is the latest update for my phone.
Do you have any idea what I would need to do in order to do the data/sd swap? Would I need to redo the process if I upgraded to a bigger SD in the future?
Use Link2SD app.
I used the downgrade method on my CDMA w/ hboot 1.58 S-ON
When I was done I put together a fairly simple(simple as possible) step by step procedure
See here ---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2794935
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Use Link2SD app.
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Link2SD is useless because all the other apps were not designed to run on the SD. Trust me when I say I tried that and about 5-6 more. They were totally useless.
e343balla said:
Link2SD is useless because all the other apps were not designed to run on the SD. Trust me when I say I tried that and about 5-6 more. They were totally useless.
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well, maybe forgot to say sdcard needs to be partitioned. 1 with fat32, 2 ext4, been awhile. Should use recovery to partition or linux gparted.
Link2SD uses the sd-ext partition, which is linked to data partition of the phone, so it use as 1 folder even if its on 2 devices, its a linux file system. I wish I could explain it better.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1338708
http://www.mindmytech.com/sd-card-ext-partitions/