Hi All,
I wanted to know if i am trying numerous bad roms or do the majority of users here actually just know/deal with the limitations of the hardware for the nook tablet? I have the 16GB model, and ever since going to jelly bean, various revisions, i just feel like its really slow and im unsure as to why. I would much rather keep jelly bean as my S3 has it and i've become very familiar.
Something tells me i just haven't tried the right rom whether it be stable or not, or perhaps a previous version. All i know is without the right memory cleansing apps, i do not enjoy using it very much anymore. I'd rather not have to kill all tasks to enjoy every other application you know?
Thanks all,
Ant
nuseii said:
Hi All,
I wanted to know if i am trying numerous bad roms or do the majority of users here actually just know/deal with the limitations of the hardware for the nook tablet? I have the 16GB model, and ever since going to jelly bean, various revisions, i just feel like its really slow and im unsure as to why. I would much rather keep jelly bean as my S3 has it and i've become very familiar.
Something tells me i just haven't tried the right rom whether it be stable or not, or perhaps a previous version. All i know is without the right memory cleansing apps, i do not enjoy using it very much anymore. I'd rather not have to kill all tasks to enjoy every other application you know?
Thanks all,
Ant
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I'm running the CM10.1.3-RC1 release (previously ran the 10.1.2 Stable release). Both of those ROMs are very nice and I've not noticed any major sluggishness. I have the ROM installed in emmc on my 16GB tablet. I use the microSD just for extra storage (music and books, mostly). I'm running with the standard kernel that comes with the CM ROMs. I don't use any "memory cleansing apps" nor do I kill any processes, I just let the OS handle all of that, which it does very well.
Nope, no sluggishness here. Got the 16GB NT (for $50 off eBay, free s&h, WOOT!)
Running stock CM10.1. Got a 32GB microSD in there for storage and Debian chroot.
nuseii said:
Hi All,
I wanted to know if i am trying numerous bad roms or do the majority of users here actually just know/deal with the limitations of the hardware for the nook tablet? I have the 16GB model, and ever since going to jelly bean, various revisions, i just feel like its really slow and im unsure as to why. I would much rather keep jelly bean as my S3 has it and i've become very familiar.
Something tells me i just haven't tried the right rom whether it be stable or not, or perhaps a previous version. All i know is without the right memory cleansing apps, i do not enjoy using it very much anymore. I'd rather not have to kill all tasks to enjoy every other application you know?
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Which ROM version/build are you using (you can find this info in "Settings->About Tablet")?
Also you might want to try clearing /cache.
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Which ROM version/build are you using (you can find this info in "Settings->About Tablet")?
Also you might want to try clearing /cache.
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I'll get back to you as soon as i can tinker w/ this damn cable. Worst part of the tablet i swear . I don't remember if its supposed to be amber or green when charging, cable messed up a long time ago.
sagirfahmid3 said:
Nope, no sluggishness here. Got the 16GB NT (for $50 off eBay, free s&h, WOOT!)
Running stock CM10.1. Got a 32GB microSD in there for storage and Debian chroot.
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Wow that is an amazing deal. I don't know what a debian chroot is, i work in IT so i surmise it might be something to change the permission/root directory? I need to look into proper SD cards, i was out of work so long that i don't know the best class to get.
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Wow that is an amazing deal. I don't know what a debian chroot is, i work in IT so i surmise it might be something to change the permission/root directory? I need to look into proper SD cards, i was out of work so long that i don't know the best class to get.
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There's a lot of different things that chrooting can do.
You can take "control" of another linux distro while you're in the current one (like I can chroot into my Debian partition when running Arch and upgrade all my packages, or vice versa). You can install a boot manager to a linux partition that doesn't have it or didn't get installed properly (a chroot GRUB install, for example). You can confine processes to a "jail" so they can't mess up with your real system, etc etc... Read this if interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroot
I just use it for chrooting Debian on my Android devices. You can of course use any linux distro that has an ARM port (like Arch, and I think Ubuntu. I'm a Debian kinda guy tho, prefer complete stability).
nuseii said:
I'll get back to you as soon as i can tinker w/ this damn cable. Worst part of the tablet i swear . I don't remember if its supposed to be amber or green when charging, cable messed up a long time ago.
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It's supposed to be "amber" when first plugged in and changing to green when NT fully charged; but the indicator light can malfunction and never turn green (even though the cable functions perfectly charging-wise).
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It's supposed to be "amber" when first plugged in and changing to green when NT fully charged; but the indicator light can malfunction and never turn green (even though the cable functions perfectly charging-wise).
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Hmm ok. I will jiggle it until its amber i suppose. I wanted to tinker w/ it last night especially since you guys have been so forthcoming with great advice, but it never charged. Walked around my office and tried various chargers...to no avail. I had a motorola one which was a little deeper that worked awesome but i lost it. A little added question, is it ok to use the nook brick on other devices? GF used it on her phone and was super happy it charged quick, but i was concerned it might have been providing too much juice.
This seems like an awesome community. I've lurked for years and just siphoned info on rooting and roms honestly. Glad to join.
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Hmm ok. I will jiggle it until its amber i suppose. I wanted to tinker w/ it last night especially since you guys have been so forthcoming with great advice, but it never charged. Walked around my office and tried various chargers...to no avail. I had a motorola one which was a little deeper that worked awesome but i lost it.
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You can use a regular microUSB cable, it will just take lots longer to charge.
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You can use a regular microUSB cable, it will just take lots longer to charge.
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Finally got it 36% charged with a motorola cable. I am apparently running CyanogenMod 10.1.2 kernel 3.0.62-g78545f4 jul 11 Android 4.2.2
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Finally got it 36% charged with a motorola cable. I am apparently running CyanogenMod 10.1.2 kernel 3.0.62-g78545f4 jul 11 Android 4.2.2
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If you're feeling a bit adventurous, you can split the broken charger cable, replace the special microUSB head with a regular one (making sure you have the POLARITY correct) and short the data wires. It draws 1Amp that way instead of the 500mA. It should take around 6 or 7 hours to fully charge that way (instead of 12-14 hours). Easier way would be to get your Motorola charger, cut off half the wires with the microUSB still on, then connect it to another adapter that supplies 1Amp or more @ 5Volts.
Here's what I'm talking about: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=709226
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WHen a good stable (witch there alreay kind of is) android version is out with everything pretty much working, when would an atcual ROM be out so we can get rid of winmo completley? after a stable version is made, it is easy or hard to do that?
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WHen a good stable (witch there alreay kind of is) android version is out with everything pretty much working, when would an atcual ROM be out so we can get rid of winmo completley? after a stable version is made, it is easy or hard to do that?
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why on earth would you wanna do that...?. if you hate winmo so much why not just sell up and buy an android phone....problem solved !!!
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why on earth would you wanna do that...?. if you hate winmo so much why not just sell up and buy an android phone....problem solved !!!
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Where in my post did i say "i hate WInmo"? i went back to read it and i did not see it there??
obviously android will run much faster and better with winmo not also running.
THAT is what i meant...why run two OS's?
and if android will have a full port...why change??
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Where in my post did i say "i hate WInmo"? i went back to read it and i did not see it there??
obviously android will run much faster and better with winmo not also running.
THAT is what i meant...why run two OS's?
and if android will have a full port...why change??
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From what I know both OS's are not running, hence having to shut down android and reboot winmo. But Im probably wrong.
Though I too would like to know an answer to your question about a rom!
At the risk of sounding borishly redundant... search is your friend, and of course it's all speculative.
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Where in my post did i say "i hate WInmo"? i went back to read it and i did not see it there??
obviously android will run much faster and better with winmo not also running.
THAT is what i meant...why run two OS's?
and if android will have a full port...why change??
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fair enough, but when i read "so we can get rid of winmo completley" it kind of makes me think your not at all happy with the os. android on hd2 is never going to be the same as having a dedicated android phone, so why not just sell up and buy a phone with the os you want the most...?
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fair enough, but when i read "so we can get rid of winmo completley" it kind of makes me think your not at all happy with the os. android on hd2 is never going to be the same as having a dedicated android phone, so why not just sell up and buy a phone with the os you want the most...?
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good piont...i was just under the impression that it will run good on android...
what would not run good on it as if it were an android phone itself?
NO NO NO NO NO NO
do we have to have this **** every freaking day
Only 1 or 2 other winmo devices have flashable android roms for them out of over a dozen that have android ports, and it took years of development. And the ports running from nand don't have much of a performance boost, if any. In fact, sometimes the nand versions have less functionality because the ports still use winmo to initialize some hardware until they develop the right drivers to initialize on there own. Thats why some ports for some winmo phones need you to run a 3d app before running haret to get 3d working on android or similar things. The windows kernel is shut down from haret... its not running at the same time as linux. I neer understood why people want to flash over winmo when you could have a phone that runs both. You can have a powerphone that runs 2or 3 os's, or you can have just an android phone that is buggier and less stable than a native android phone. If you want just android and nothing else, why not just get an android phone. I would much rather have a dual booting phone.
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Only 1 or 2 other winmo devices have flashable android roms for them out of over a dozen that have android ports, and it took years of development. And the ports running from nand don't have much of a performance boost, if any. In fact, sometimes the nand versions have less functionality because the ports still use winmo to initialize some hardware until they develop the right drivers to initialize on there own. Thats why some ports for some winmo phones need you to run a 3d app before running haret to get 3d working on android or similar things. The windows kernel is shut down from haret... its not running at the same time as linux. I neer understood why people want to flash over winmo when you could have a phone that runs both. You can have a powerphone that runs 2or 3 os's, or you can have just an android phone that is buggier and less stable than a native android phone. If you want just android and nothing else, why not just get an android phone. I would much rather have a dual booting phone.
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Informative post, thanks.
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Only 1 or 2 other winmo devices have flashable android roms for them out of over a dozen that have android ports, and it took years of development. And the ports running from nand don't have much of a performance boost, if any. In fact, sometimes the nand versions have less functionality because the ports still use winmo to initialize some hardware until they develop the right drivers to initialize on there own. Thats why some ports for some winmo phones need you to run a 3d app before running haret to get 3d working on android or similar things. The windows kernel is shut down from haret... its not running at the same time as linux. I neer understood why people want to flash over winmo when you could have a phone that runs both. You can have a powerphone that runs 2or 3 os's, or you can have just an android phone that is buggier and less stable than a native android phone. If you want just android and nothing else, why not just get an android phone. I would much rather have a dual booting phone.
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VERY VERY informative. wow, great info. i did not know that Haret **** down Winmo Kernal. i thought they were both running at same time...
so what your saying, we can run a day to day android system off our SD card for good if we wanted?? would getting a class higher then muy class 2 sd card help alot?
Thanks so much for your info...
dvigue said:
VERY VERY informative. wow, great info. i did not know that Haret **** down Winmo Kernal. i thought they were both running at same time...
so what your saying, we can run a day to day android system off our SD card for good if we wanted?? would getting a class higher then muy class 2 sd card help alot?
Thanks so much for your info...
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Yeah, it will run just as well off our sd card as the nand once they get it stable and working well... that's whats great about these ports. That's why I never understood why people are so gung-ho about getting a rom flash with android... that takes away the beauty of having the android port on a winmo device... you get to pick which os you want to use... you can have apps for both. I love android, but I love winmo, also. Android can't play playstation games, which is my main method of entertainment on my phone... but there are many other games for android... AND WE CAN HAVE BOTH!!!
And yes, I think a faster memory card will speed things up during some processes, but I don't know how noticeable a difference it makes. Probably not that big of a difference, but maybe for certain actions or apps it might if lots of data trasferring is happening.
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Yeah, it will run just as well off our sd card as the nand once they get it stable and working well... that's whats great about these ports. That's why I never understood why people are so gung-ho about getting a rom flash with android... that takes away the beauty of having the android port on a winmo device... you get to pick which os you want to use... you can have apps for both. I love android, but I love winmo, also. Android can't play playstation games, which is my main method of entertainment on my phone... but there are many other games for android... AND WE CAN HAVE BOTH!!!
And yes, I think a faster memory card will speed things up during some processes, but I don't know how noticeable a difference it makes. Probably not that big of a difference, but maybe for certain actions or apps it might if lots of data trasferring is happening.
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What about the increased battery consumption because Android is running off SD card? I for one love having the option of having a dual boot device, but from everything I have read so far, it is not possible to have both Winmo and an Android port installed on the internal memory of the phone. It's either one or the other, is that correct?
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What about the increased battery consumption because Android is running off SD card? I for one love having the option of having a dual boot device, but from everything I have read so far, it is not possible to have both Winmo and an Android port installed on the internal memory of the phone. It's either one or the other, is that correct?
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good point...this phone will only last about 3-4 hours with it running of SD
so this will NEVER be able to be flashed?
dvigue said:
this phone will only last about 3-4 hours with it running of SD
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Where did you get that estimate from?
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Where did you get that estimate from?
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probably from the results of the releases just days ago.
Battery life on the Android ports for the HD2 have come along way in mere days (Along with a bunch of additional improvements). Maybe he is just a little behind on the times.
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probably from the results of the releases just days ago.
Battery life on the Android ports for the HD2 have come along way in mere days (Along with a bunch of additional improvements). Maybe he is just a little behind on the times.
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im using the july 22ns zimage with the v5 desire...if i m using the phone, i get maybe 4 hours...sitting there,i get at least 10-15% drop per hour..sitting there..
what do you get? what do you use?
Battery life should improve some with more development, but even the ports that are flashable to nand suffer from poor battery life... we will probably never get nearly as good battery life from an android port as we will with winmo. The port that flashes on the kaiser eats the battery 2-3 times faster during heavy use and eats the battery 7 or 8 times faster during standby. Charging can be very unstable, also... it'll randomly stop.
Once there is a flashable port for the HD2, assuming there will be one eventually, it will probably have less functional hardware at first (may be missing wifi, 3g, bluetooth, camera, or gps for example) because we won't have winmo to initialize the hardware... it will take more development to make a nand port as functional as the "haret" port.
I'm not saying that a good flashable port won't neccessarily happen, but by going on the history of these ports, I wouldn't expect it too soon. But these developers have already surprised me with how functional they have gotten this port so quickly, so they may prove me wrong. I still wouldn't flash over WinMo, though... I like having a phone that can run 2 or more operating systems. I have my 2 favorite mobile os's on one phone!
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im using the july 22ns zimage with the v5 desire...if i m using the phone, i get maybe 4 hours...sitting there,i get at least 10-15% drop per hour..sitting there..
what do you get? what do you use?
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Wow, 4 hours on the newer builds is just awful...
You might wanna try a reformat of your SD card and just start all over. If that doesn't work, maybe look into the type of SD card you are using.
I have tried just about all the releases, but currently I am on:
Desire v5
Zimage 23th Cotulla
HSPL 3
radio 2.12.50.2.2
Miri v17.6 rom
Well, Im a bit new to this, but how many android ports have been developed this quickly? How many have been made with the benefit of an open source kernel and hardware that is very similar to device running android?
Seems the me that the HD2 is a bit of a special case...
Hey everybody. I was hoping for some educated opinions on this. My sister and brother in law picked up a Touchpad for my niece to be able to use. She is 14 and has cerebral palsy. With her motor controls being diminished somewhat she has never been able use a standard PC very effectively. They had always thought that a touchscreen device would be something she could get used to. So far the Touchpad has been a very good pickup for them as she is able to get some good general entertainment out of is. I was talking to them recently about the option to put Android on it and they were curious about it. They both have Android phones and like them very much. They have a few concerns about hacking the tablet and putting Android on it which I was hoping you all could help with.
They are worried that it won't run as smoothly as it does currently with WebOS on it.
They are worried about loosing the few apps that they have purchased on WebOS (namely read along books).
They are worried about not all of the features working on it.
So give those concerns ... should they go ahead with Android on their HP Touchpad? I am going to send them the link to this thread and it would be great to see some legit opinions. Thank you all!!
NickPDX said:
Hey everybody. I was hoping for some educated opinions on this. My sister and brother in law picked up a Touchpad for my niece to be able to use. She is 14 and has cerebral palsy. With her motor controls being diminished somewhat she has never been able use a standard PC very effectively. They had always thought that a touchscreen device would be something she could get used to. So far the Touchpad has been a very good pickup for them as she is able to get some good general entertainment out of is. I was talking to them recently about the option to put Android on it and they were curious about it. They both have Android phones and like them very much. They have a few concerns about hacking the tablet and putting Android on it which I was hoping you all could help with.
They are worried that it won't run as smoothly as it does currently with WebOS on it.
They are worried about loosing the few apps that they have purchased on WebOS (namely read along books).
They are worried about not all of the features working on it.
So give those concerns ... should they go ahead with Android on their HP Touchpad? I am going to send them the link to this thread and it would be great to see some legit opinions. Thank you all!!
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If you add android (I recommend the unofficial cyanogenmod nightlies, which I use), it won't affect webos at all. That being said, all android ports to the TP are in Alpha, though it runs very well. I would say to go ahead and install android, there's nothing to lose. WebOS is an excellent os, I use it about 50% of the time.
Thanks for the reply. Won't effect WebOS at all? Is it running off the SD or something? I have a HTC HD2 and I used to run Android off an SD and that way I could boot off the ROM or SD ROM and get the best of both worlds. Also, are you experience many issues with the Wifi on those builds? My niece of course likes her Angry Birds, but other than that probably 90% of what she does involves the internet or streaming media ... if the wifi didn't work correctly it would suck for her.
Thanks again!
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Thanks for the reply. Won't effect WebOS at all? Is it running off the SD or something? I have a HTC HD2 and I used to run Android off an SD and that way I could boot off the ROM or SD ROM and get the best of both worlds. Also, are you experience many issues with the Wifi on those builds? My niece of course likes her Angry Birds, but other than that probably 90% of what she does involves the internet or streaming media ... if the wifi didn't work correctly it would suck for her.
Thanks again!
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It affected my webos, but only slightly. Just deleted a few apps that I had installed through preware. Don't let this scare you, though, as I believe it was probably user error. Regarding wifi, there is a wide range of opinions. Mine works very well, but others do not. Android does not run off sd card, as touchpad does not have a slot for it. My basic understanding is that it partitions a portion of the hard drive for android and uses the rest as a faux "sdcard".
IMO, you should do it. My second "android" device was also an hd2, so it seems you have the background and know how to do it. As always, be careful to read as much as possible first. Also, there are a few outdated tutorials floating around (I encountered them when I did my touchpad). If you need a list of the current tuts, I'm sure I or another user can give you the links.
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Regarding wifi, there is a wide range of opinions. Mine works very well, but others do not. Android does not run off sd card, as touchpad does not have a slot for it. My basic understanding is that it partitions a portion of the hard drive for android and uses the rest as a faux "sdcard".
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Yes, you end up with WebOs, Android, and a shared data area that is called "sdcard" under Android and visible from a PC.
The WiFi issues can usually be overcome if the WiFi router is yours. If you have to connect to an encrypted WiFi network e.g. at school, that could be an issue.
The range of apps for Android is much wider, including some very nice read along (or read to you) books. But switching to Android means they have to be bought again.
I LOVE the look and feel of WebOS, but I'm a die hard android fan. With wifi being spotty at best on android, I'd stick with WebOS for now. But like the previous posts have said, you can dual boot both OS (just set WebOS to the default in moboot)
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There is a "fix" for the wifi. Just install Rohan's Mod. It works beautifully. I don't have any wifi issues at all.
There's another thing that "fixes" the Wifi issue. Set your router to use one of the lower channels - I suggest 1-3, but anything below 6 is good. Then reconnect to it with your Touchpad, and you're good. There's been some issues in the upper channels, mainly with the fact that CM can support up to channel 14, but nothing in North America is legally licensed to use those channels. So set your regulatory domain to 11, your router to a lower channel, and you're golden.
They are worried that it won't run as smoothly as it does currently with WebOS on it.
Cm9 Runs extremely smooth
They are worried about loosing the few apps that they have purchased on Web-OS.
They wont lose any apps you can always reboot to web-os
They are worried about not all of the features working on it.
Almost about every works expect for the camera and you could always switch back to web-OS and use the camera.
One thing i think you might find a problem is that Android might be to complex for her
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They are worried that it won't run as smoothly as it does currently with WebOS on it.
Cm9 Runs extremely smooth
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CM9 (at least Alphas/official nightlies without overclock) is far behind the latest WebOS in term of interface smoothness.
OP, Battery drain is rather big, and if you'd allow it to discharge to 0%, you wouldn't be able to charge it from Android until you reboot to webos (which could be tricky) and charge it some time from there. Camera doesn't work, mic doesn't work, there are some force closes here and there, and even reboots sometimes.
Overall, don't think that current state of TP Android is suitable for non-geek person, and, as i understand, your niece is extremely non-geek. Better stick with WebOS for now, or get ready to explain stuff to her.
Yea Def put android on it. You wont lose webos if she doesnt like android. So you can give the child a choice.
I bought my wife a Nook tablet 16g for Christmas (certified preowned) the stock ROM on the device is useless, aside from no access to google play interaction with the touchscreen is choppy and laggy, and sometimes you have to select items three times before they are selected, is this normal for a stock B&N tab?
I've spent the last three days scowering this forum gathering information, so far all I've done is loaded CM7 from this thread to SD card only, modifying it a bit to just do CM7. I chose CM7 because I figured it being an older ROM it would have most hardware working correctly and be the least buggy. Needless to say the device works great with this ROM none of the issues I experienced with the stock B&N ROM existed (great job devs. much appreciated) the only thing that struck me as odd with this ROM was it didn't seem optimized for a tablet and certainly not this tablet, as all the stock phone apps were still there, as well as camera and bluetooth. Is there a ROM out there that's more suited for the nook tablet is my next question, and can all these ROMs be put on SD card and booted from there rather than altering the internal software.
Next question is can the stock ROM be altered to make it usable? Rooting obviously, maybe a different kernel so things function smoothly, adding google play. This tablet is for my wife who is not very tech savy so the more simple I can make the device to use the better.
Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions that can be provided, this is only the second device I've worked with, the first being me and my wife's Samsung Infuse, so the more detailed the help the better, I am literate and not opposed to reading so good links to learning resources would be great, however I would like answers to my few questions.
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I've spent the last three days scowering this forum gathering information, so far all I've done is loaded CM7 from this thread to SD card only, modifying it a bit to just do CM7. I chose CM7 because I figured it being an older ROM it would have most hardware working correctly and be the least buggy. Needless to say the device works great with this ROM none of the issues I experienced with the stock B&N ROM existed (great job devs. much appreciated) the only thing that struck me as odd with this ROM was it didn't seem optimized for a tablet and certainly not this tablet, as all the stock phone apps were still there, as well as camera and bluetooth. Is there a ROM out there that's more suited for the nook tablet is my next question, and can all these ROMs be put on SD card and booted from there rather than altering the internal software.
Next question is can the stock ROM be altered to make it usable? Rooting obviously, maybe a different kernel so things function smoothly, adding google play. This tablet is for my wife who is not very tech savy so the more simple I can make the device to use the better.
Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions that can be provided, this is only the second device I've worked with, the first being me and my wife's Samsung Infuse, so the more detailed the help the better, I am literate and not opposed to reading so good links to learning resources would be great, however I would like answers to my few questions.
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I find rooted stock to be just marginally better than stock: many newer apps are not backward compatible with Android Gingerbread release (which stock ROM (as well as CM7) is based on), the co-habiting of the stock and CM10 interfaces quite awkward.
I'd suggest you first try running CM10 off an SD card, that way you can conveniently switch back and forth to stock and compare them, and flash it if you decide you like it.
And cm10 is well optimized for the tablet. Cm7 did seem to have the extra phone rudimentary stuff, but remember it was the first custom rom on the NT. Since then, the other roms are quite polished.
Excellent info thanks a lot guys I'm going to load a SD with CM10 and let my wife give it a whirl.
Is a class 10 micro SD too fast for this tablet? I thought in my reading I came across something about class 10 SD's being problematic, I may have mis-read though.
I just realized the thread I said I used to get the CM7 SD boot image, wasn't the one I actually used, so I though I already had an SD bootable .img of CM10 JB, but I guess I don't. What is the most problem free SD bootable version of CM10 JB (link if possible)? I really don't want to modify the internal storage of the unit till I'm 100% sure everything works good on the unit and I find the best ROM for it (which sounds like CM10 JB)
I don't have much to compare with, but I used this more or less fool proof guide: http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/cm10-0-jellybean-sdcard-img-for-nook-tablet/
I ran the 1208 build from sd until a few days ago when I put it internally. I can't say I noticed any improvements running it internally compared to from sd so it's really good option in my opinion. (My Tablet har no problem booting from sd-card. Others have more problem and for those internal is a better choice.)
asawi said:
I don't have much to compare with, but I used this more or less fool proof guide: http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/cm10-0-jellybean-sdcard-img-for-nook-tablet/
I ran the 1208 build from sd until a few days ago when I put it internally. I can't say I noticed any improvements running it internally compared to from sd so it's really good option in my opinion. (My Tablet har no problem booting from sd-card. Others have more problem and for those internal is a better choice.)
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Thank you so much, just what i was looking for something simple and easy. I'm fine experimenting and learning on my own device but my wife just wants to use the dang thing. I noticed there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of SD images on the forums (unless I'm just not digging deep enough) i'm wondering why as booting from the SD seems like a great way to keep the device within warranty and get all the benifits of a rooted full android device.
dginsd said:
Thank you so much, just what i was looking for something simple and easy. I'm fine experimenting and learning on my own device but my wife just wants to use the dang thing. I noticed there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of SD images on the forums (unless I'm just not digging deep enough) i'm wondering why as booting from the SD seems like a great way to keep the device within warranty and get all the benifits of a rooted full android device.
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Many NTs will only boot into SD from power-off and on insertion of a powered-USB cable -- an inconvenience if/when the NT ever hangs or reboots and you don't have a usb cable and a power source (e.g., wall/car charger or powered usb hub).
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Many NTs will only boot into SD from power-off and on insertion of a powered-USB cable -- an inconvenience if/when the NT ever hangs or reboots and you don't have a usb cable and a power source (e.g., wall/car charger or powered usb hub).
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So is there any advantage to flashing to internal storage if booting into the SD card is not an issue?
asawl: thank you so much for the link, this ROM is awesome my wife will be Oh so happy.
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So is there any advantage to flashing to internal storage if booting into the SD card is not an issue?
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None, unless you want/need to swap sd cards for media storage.
On the other hand, few people who use CM would ever want to go back to stock, so keeping stock is mostly for convenience in the event of warranty claim (you can also just backup prior to flashing CM and restore stock when needed). Once the warranty expires, there is no reason to keep stock and waste space.
With Jellybean based ROM installed, this tablet is working almost as well as the flashy tablets out there today.
Did everyone just leave their gtab in the basement to collect dust?
Which jelly bean rom are you using? How long have you been using? I've tried a few and after a week or so they slow down. I'm hoping a kit kat rom will work.
Jelly Bean on Gtab
TheFlyingPig said:
With Jellybean based ROM installed, this tablet is working almost as well as the flashy tablets out there today.
Did everyone just leave their gtab in the basement to collect dust?
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I installed drh's jelly bean 4.2 beta which I thought worked quite well and faster than their 4.1. Only problem is after charging I could not get it back on until the battery was drained. I am hoping installing wakelocker will solve this issue. Did you install a cwm version?
I'm not an expert but you probably need a reset hole. I've had lockups with custom roms and had to drill the hole.
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I've completely ditched android and moved over to windows.
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I'm not an expert but you probably need a reset hole. I've had lockups with custom roms and had to drill the hole.
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I was going to do that if WAKELOCK did not work. But it works.
Thanks
Mine works fine with VeganTAB. I've tried some other ROMs but always gone back to Vegan.
goog64 said:
Mine works fine with VeganTAB. I've tried some other ROMs but always gone back to Vegan.
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I tried VeganTAB in the past and it was very smooth, but video hardware acceleration seemed to be broken. Does it work for you? (if yes, which VeganTAB version are you using?)
Using Vegan-tab 7.1.0, video works with YouTube and Facebook app. Also videos play in gallery app.
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Using Vegan-tab 7.1.0, video works with YouTube and Facebook app. Also videos play in gallery app.
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Thanks!
I have the DRH Jellybean ROM loaded as well. Keeps the kids' hands off of my transformer. But, I have to say, the gtab has been a really nice device and it works to play movies on road trips, browse the web, etc. Really happy for the support of the DEVs on the site for making the purchase worthwhile (I still get heartburn thinking about that Tap 'n Tap UI, LOL). It's a clunky tablet, and now it's got a hole drilled in the back cover, but it's a long way from retirement, and the battery life is still outstanding. Thanks again all!
Meh
I don't know if I'm in the minority but I've never had any luck with my gTab. From day one, the stock ROM sucked so I rooted. Bounced around from ROM to ROM but never found one that was stable enough to use as a daily driver. It's sat in a drawer for the last couple years and I just dusted it off yesterday to see if any of the ROMs that have come out lately would work better. Tried DRH JB beta - slow and apps crash, tried SmootherBean and it's the same story. I love tinkering with my Android devices but typically I can get an end result that's better than what I started with. Not so much with the gTab. All I want is a reliable ROM and so far I'm convinced that it doesn't exist for this POS tablet. Ugh.
Mine is sitting on the shelf since the battery turned into a balloon and popped the back cover off.
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Still running SmOoTher_BeAn_4.1.2 on mine. Battery is junk, gets about 10 minutes off the dock before it dies. It still runs great 99% of the time, its been a fantastic purchase and worth every penny.
Basically it sits in a dock 24/7 and I use it for Netflix/ HBO Go/ MX Player movies. I was using it for ROMs and emulators too, but the Ouya took that spot.
I still use it, its just not an everyday device like it used to be. Just kind of wish I had some type of VNC remote control app for it on my phone so I didn't have to walk over and touch it to do everything, kind of like a Chromecast.
...just dug mine out for some reason that I forget now the other week, batt was dead... dug up the charger today, and MIGHT get around to doing something with it. (Was bootlooping or just crashing like the orig ROM did IIRC when I shelved it.)
Moved on to IIRC the original Nook Color(CM booting from usd), then picked up a Samsung Galaxy Tab 7+(which I used for quite a while stock), then eventually the n7(2013 stock still running it). Also ended up picking up a Touchpad a while back, but I've just found the >7" tablets to be uselessly large, but have now come to the feeling that tablets are just mostly useless to begin with, especially when faced with wanting to enter detailed email/etc. with no keyboard. Too much of a PITA. (Also picked up an Archos IT43 & 32 back in the day. The 32 for media, and try at the 43(bigger than my phone at the time for a smaller tablet, but it sucked since it had gimped archos android and well was almost as bad as the stock gtab and noone cared about these, plus the 43 had horrible resistive touch(resistive touch on the 32 was pretty damned good though, as good as cap touch)).
-> picked up an i3/4GB chromebook(11" slightly bigger than those 10" tabs but feels lighter at least, upgraded SSD to 128GB dev mode crouton/trusty/xfce) which is just more generally useful when I want small and light than any tablet that I've owned. If I want just tablet function I think that the n5 is big enough(even n4 really) to fill that spot. Might use them on the odd occasion for complex PDFs but that's really the only reason I can think to bother keeping them around.
So maybe one day when I'm really bored(or snowed in and bored) I'll charge up the gtab and poke it for old time's sake.
Hey guys,
I must say Gtab has served well and worth the money spent. It has been an excellent learning curve as well. Learned a lot about android debugging and flashing devices with gtab only.
Sadly enough, I dropped mine with the headphone pluged in, and it hit the floor in a way that headphone connection broke. I lost sound due to this mechanical damage.
Any ways,, here is a crazy idea. I want to use Gtablet's touch display with Raspberry pi. Has anyone as any idea how would I accomplish this?
Let me know,
Thanks,.
theteju said:
Hey guys,
I must say Gtab has served well and worth the money spent. It has been an excellent learning curve as well. Learned a lot about android debugging and flashing devices with gtab only.
Sadly enough, I dropped mine with the headphone pluged in, and it hit the floor in a way that headphone connection broke. I lost sound due to this mechanical damage.
Any ways,, here is a crazy idea. I want to use Gtablet's touch display with Raspberry pi. Has anyone as any idea how would I accomplish this?
Let me know,
Thanks,.
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maybe you can solder the jack/board again to the mainboard
well
i would try to look up the LCD/touch IC data sheet to see the electrical diagram and see how would you connect itt or interface it with a raspberry pi
(and play from there)
i doubt its easily doable but good luck and let me know
Ok, I have an odd request if anyone can help. 16gb nook tablet here, it's been collecting dust for a couple years, but still works fine. I last flashed it with CM 12 I think. (it's at android 5.1.1) I'm pretty certain the partitioning was changed though. My goal is to reflash an older version of android. I want to downgrade it down to ice cream sandwich or gingerbread. I'm suspecting bad things are going to happen if I simply try to flash CM7 or CM9 or something without changing the partitioning back. Any suggestions on how best to accomplish this? I'm a bit rusty on my ROM flashing skills after a couple years of experimenting with windows tablets instead of android.
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Ok, I have an odd request if anyone can help. 16gb nook tablet here, it's been collecting dust for a couple years, but still works fine. I last flashed it with CM 12 I think. (it's at android 5.1.1) I'm pretty certain the partitioning was changed though. My goal is to reflash an older version of android. I want to downgrade it down to ice cream sandwich or gingerbread. I'm suspecting bad things are going to happen if I simply try to flash CM7 or CM9 or something without changing the partitioning back. Any suggestions on how best to accomplish this? I'm a bit rusty on my ROM flashing skills after a couple years of experimenting with windows tablets instead of android.
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How about taking it back to stock and then doing whatever you have in mind after that? This "last-ditch" un-brick procedure might do it: http://bishoptec.com/2012/06/how-to-un-brick-a-nook-tablet-8gb-or-16gb/?
FWIW, I was running CM 12.1 at one time and as far as I know there was no repartitioning involved in that flash, unless you did it as an addition for some other purpose.
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How about taking it back to stock and then doing whatever you have in mind after that? This "last-ditch" un-brick procedure might do it: http://bishoptec.com/2012/06/how-to-un-brick-a-nook-tablet-8gb-or-16gb/?
FWIW, I was running CM 12.1 at one time and as far as I know there was no repartitioning involved in that flash, unless you did it as an addition for some other purpose.
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hmm thanks, looking into that link now. I'm certain I repartitioned it at some point, but it was a long time ago now. I'm not certain what method I used. I've played around with way too many other tablets and phones since then, so it's hard to mentally keep straight what I've done with which device.
EDIT: Well, I've got it to CM9 now, I still have to flash gapps but otherwise its there. not sure how stable CM9 is, but I'm not sure which gingerbread version is best for stock + root without the B&N apps or skin. Any suggestions?
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hmm thanks, looking into that link now. I'm certain I repartitioned it at some point, but it was a long time ago now. I'm not certain what method I used. I've played around with way too many other tablets and phones since then, so it's hard to mentally keep straight what I've done with which device.
EDIT: Well, I've got it to CM9 now, I still have to flash gapps but otherwise its there. not sure how stable CM9 is, but I'm not sure which gingerbread version is best for stock + root without the B&N apps or skin. Any suggestions?
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Wow, I applaud your resourcefulness in scaring up a CM 9 ROM and GApps! You must have a specific reason for wanting an old OS. As far as issues I suppose you could search this board for "CM 9" and see what people had to say about it in the past.
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Wow, I applaud your resourcefulness in scaring up a CM 9 ROM and GApps! You must have a specific reason for wanting an old OS. As far as issues I suppose you could search this board for "CM 9" and see what people had to say about it in the past.
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Doing so. Though I do have a specific reason for the older OS. It's a silly reason too one old game. Nethack. If the person who did the best android port had updated it since gingerbread it wouldn't be an issue, and if I could turn compatibility mode OFF on an app after jellybean, it also wouldn't be an issue. The game is nostalgic for me. (used to play it back on my Amiga 1000 in the 80s) My choices, play it on a newer OS and have the view zoomed in so you can see only a part of the map for each level (Boo!), Try my hand at porting it myself, or else simply get an old tablet running an old OS version again. (I don't think attempting to put old versions of android on a recent device would work out well) This seemed like the easiest choice. Got it running, and functioning how I want now I didn't have to adjust the partitioning at all. Your link was helpful, since in it it they referenced that the reflashing wouldn't effect changed partitions, which clued me in that it wouldn't be a big deal for downgrading the NT. so thanks!
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I'm pretty certain the partitioning was changed though.
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If your NT model is 16GB, see https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2575489 for the original factory sizing of the EMMC partitions.