So I put Carbon on my wife's tablet after not touching it for over a year. Amazing that I can come here and get exactly what I need. What a great community!
I do have a question. I have a 16gb model and a 16gb card. I can see and use the card, no problem.
Using astro or other file manager, the directories seem weird. That's not a problem. The problem is, I can only use 1gb of internal storage - is there a way to get at the balance of that? Or is it lost forever?
Sounds like your NT has the BN's old 1GB allocation for the user-media partition instead of the new 8GB.
To get a 8GB allocation, you can restore the NT to stock ROM and take it to a B&N store to have the repartition done; or you can (Google) search for a repart.img SD-based tool which also does the repartition (and in the process restore the NT to stock ROM). Either way, you can use CWM recovery to back up your current Carbon ROM before the operation and then restore it afterward.
Ah, I completely forgot about this little point. Thank you for the reminder and the options!
One more question from me about this, does it make sense in CM to have two internal storages anyway? Couldn't I just reformat it to have only one partition?
I know how to use parted, so this isn't why I am asking. I just wanted to ask here about potential other side effects.
I already reformatted that my internal memory is about 4GB and my sdcard0 storage is 10GB, but now I installed a huge app in internal memory which can't be moved to SD for some reason, and I want to at least reformat it the other way around or the default 12GB sdcard0 + 1GB internal
All apps are installed in the first internal memory anyway I have figured, so I don't know why this first sdcard0 does make sense at all? I first thought that would be used for apps, but currently there are 10 unused Gigabytes....
I am using a real sdcard in the device ( which is per default mounted as sdcard1 ), maybe that is the reason nothing is put on the internal sdcard0 ??
Any comments on this?
I'd also like to know if this can be done. I've read the posts that explain how to resize partition 10 (media) and 11 (user data), but I would like to know if it is possible to combine partition 10 and 11 into a single partition so that all available space that isn't used by the system can be used for apps and other data. Is this not possible because of different file systems or is there a way to do it?
I've also noticed that even though the Nook Tablet 16 GB physically has 1 GB RAM only 672 MB is recognized and the other 332 MB or so seems to be used as some type of virtual SD Card (this can be seen in Settings -> Apps -> On SD Card). Is there a way to make the entire 1 GB recognized and utilized? I have not been able to find any information on this anywhere.
I am running CM 10.1 on Nook Tablet 16 GB.
bluesock said:
One more question from me about this, does it make sense in CM to have two internal storages anyway? Couldn't I just reformat it to have only one partition?
I know how to use parted, so this isn't why I am asking. I just wanted to ask here about potential other side effects.
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Any comments on this?
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Combining the two partitions without tweaking the ROM will likely result in errors when the system at boot time attempts to mount the partition you eliminate, and when some apps reference the file-system that supposedly resides on that eliminated partition. To avoid these errors, the eliminated partition would have be removed from boot-time auto-mount list, and its file-system root would have to be mapped (e.g., symbolically linked) to the mount point of the remaining partition.
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I've also noticed that even though the Nook Tablet 16 GB physically has 1 GB RAM only 672 MB is recognized and the other 332 MB or so seems to be used as some type of virtual SD Card (this can be seen in Settings -> Apps -> On SD Card). Is there a way to make the entire 1 GB recognized and utilized? I have not been able to find any information on this anywhere.
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The 'missing' RAM is what the OS needs to keep the device going. 672 MB RAM free sounds very reasonable. What you see in the list as apps on sd card is the virtual sd card in storage, not RAM.
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The "missing" RAM is actually shared memory for the GPU (the SGX540). Video cards need RAM to load textures and whatnot.
You might have noticed that desktops without a dedicated GPU have much lower system RAM than advertised. Ex: my laptop with 3GB of system RAM actually shows something like 2970MB RAM (instead of 3096MB). The 100 odd MB of RAM is shared by the GPU (Intel GMA). If I had a dedicated GPU in my laptop, something like the GTX M GPUs with its own RAM, I would see and be able to use the full 3096MB of system RAM. It's the same thing with mobile devices, they share system RAM with the GPU.
That makes sense about the shared resources for the system and graphics. Thank you for the explanation!
Okay, if that is all, probably changing /system/etc/vold.fstab after repartitioning/removing the emmc-sdcard-partition and symlinking the other of the partitions should do it already? Or how does the storage settings things finds the storage memories? Or is there even something a bit more deeply buried, e.g. inside the kernels initrd or something like that? Does someone know those details?
@skelnik as written in the other thread something more here ...
It probably isn't completely beginner friendly to do all this just by this information here, but I might attempt to do this too, and then will share the information as step-wise as possible. But might take some weeks until I have a bit time left...
And be aware! There probably will be some downsides when not using a physical/external sdcard at all: You will not have the internal storage accessible as a usb storage device anymore (not sure about mtp or ptp mode, but these don't access everything anyway) - so if you screw up something it might become harder to recover. You should then probably have at least some 2gb sdcard you can use, just in case. But my opinion is that you should just pay those $5 for a physical sdcard (should even give you 4 or 8GB already...) and then there won't be these problems.
Use Ineternal Storage as sdcard on Nook Tablet
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@skelnik And be aware! There probably will be some downsides when not using a physical/external sdcard at all: You will not have the internal storage accessible as a usb storage device anymore (not sure about mtp or ptp mode, but these don't access everything anyway)
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Actually you will still have access from the PC (Windows OS at least) to this partition after using the internal storage as an sdcard. You need to go into the USB Connection Settings under Storage and change it to "USB Mass Storage" mode. Also USB Debugging needs to be unchecked in order for you to get prompted to enable USB Connection to PC. After that you will be able to transfer data to and from your PC to the internal partition being used like an sdcard on your Nook Tablet. That partition is set to 10GB for me so that is a huge benefit and allows me to swap out multiple external sdcards any time without disabling any apps.
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Actually you will still have access from the PC (Windows OS at least) to this partition after using the internal storage as an sdcard. You need to go into the USB Connection Settings under Storage and change it to "USB Mass Storage" mode. Also USB Debugging needs to be unchecked in order for you to get prompted to enable USB Connection to PC. After that you will be able to transfer data to and from your PC to the internal partition being used like an sdcard on your Nook Tablet. That partition is set to 10GB for me so that is a huge benefit and allows me to swap out multiple external sdcards any time without disabling any apps.
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Are you sure you mean the same thing as me? I am talking about removing one of the partitions and just making one large partition where both /data and a link from /sdcard into that will be. As far as I understood, Android does not do a virtualization of a path but really makes one of it's partitions accessible as usb storage? Or can you also format in ext4 and still read it in Windows?
If that works I am probably not right, otherwise read on:
All your configuration data and everything is on /data and would be removed from being accessible by the system as long as it is connected as usb storage (also all installed apps, ...), and besides that you would need to use the FAT filesystem for Windows compatibility, which is also probably not the best idea, security-wise (any app being able to read sdcard would for example be able to read your wifi configuration, maybe google account login data, etc. etc.).
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I have 25Gb of available space but less than 2Gb for apps? I'd like to use all internal storage for apps and the external card for media. Any idea how I set that up?
I have a Galaxy S2 Epic (SPH-D710) stock ROM, rooted with the zermax kernel and fited with a Sandisk 16Gb class 4 micro sd card.
Problem discovered while installing Navfree. Got the error message "not enough space". So I can't install and move.
Settings>Applications>Maganage applications>All shows
112Mb used of 1.9Gb available.
Settings>Storage>USB storage shows
Total space is 11.5Gb and Available space 11.5Gb
Settings>Storage>SD card shows
Total space 14.83Gb (aka 16Gb!) and Available space 14.81Gb.
syco123 said:
Settings>Storage>SD card shows
Total space 14.83Gb (aka 16Gb!) and Available space 14.81Gb.
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That's perfectly normal dude.. The system uses a chunk of the built-in 16GB for the ROM's use (/system, /data, /cache plus a few other partitions), and the rest is assigned to /sdcard, hence the 11.5GB (I know, that's kind of like false advertisement but what you wanna do ? Sue Samsung ?)
And for the external SD, that's also normal. I'm surprised you didn't notice this detail on the capacity of your harddrive before : end-users tend to think in "base2" (whereas 1KB=1024 bytes, 1MB=1024KB, 1GB=1024MB, and so on), while media manufacturers count in "base10" (i.e. 1KB=1000bytes, 1MB=1000KB, etc). It's a cheap way to reach the symbolic "GB", "TB", "PB" (etc) landmarks more quickly (at least, quicker than the competition).
Do the maths, you'll see that over 16GB that makes a huge chunk of "magically" disappeared storage, but it never was there to begin with.. Also false advertising there, kind of.. But we're all in the same boat here. :S
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Yea, I understand that, that why I put "(aka 16Gb") as I'm referring to a 16Gb card but listing 14.83Gb available. It was to not cause confusion, guess I failed there!
The problem I'm having is, I need around 4Gb (apparently) to install Navfree. I only have 2Gb available to apps even though I have 25Gb of storage.
People must be installing Navfree, so I must be doing something wrong.
16GB is 16000000000btye/1024/ 1024/1024 = 14. 9GB.
So it is 16Gb and not 16GB.
No such 4gb large program for android. The program is maybe 10-20mb. And the 4gb is the DATA. You can store the 4gb in your SD card.
Accidentally sent from my Google Nexus S using XDA Premium
I just tried again and it installed with a file size of 15.53Mb. Weird, Oh well, thanks anyway.
yeah i was gonna say : you might find some bloatware on the android market here and there, but by and large it is still pretty much immune to this phenomenon..
A 4GB program is something you might encounter under Windows, but Linux ?
Sorry that my first post is reviving an old-ish thread, but the initial question asked hasn't been answered (and a search of the forum didn't help me)..
Is it possible to resize the partitions of the internal storage on my s2, and if so, how?
And whilst on the subject of the internal storage, can someone please clarify if flashing a custom ROM will affect files on the "USB storage" partition, or only the files stored on the "internal" storage partition?
Sorry if these seem like noobish questions, but I am new to this customising malarkey, and want to make sure I don't lose any data unnecessarily, like I did countless times with my iPhone...
nope, flashing a rom (either stock or custom) *should* not alter usb or internal sdcard storage. If it does, that's a surefire sign that the guy who cooked the said rom has no friggin clue whatsoever about what he's messing with and to steer clear from this particular rom...
It must be possible to alter the partitioning scheme to resize the internal storage. At least that's the theory, we're dealing with a flavor of linux here, and everything is doable with linux -and enough effort and dedication.
However, as this partition lies on the same emmc chip as the system, data, cache and kernel/recovery/bootloader partitions, I highly recommend *NOT* to mess with it in any way -not unless you have another smartphone lying around that you could use as backup while your borked SGS2 is shipped back to the samsung service centre, and you're prepared to spend some $$ over the repairs (since rooting is absolutely necessary for this kind of manipulation, your warranty would theoretically be null&void in the process)...
Here's another one:
When I go into Settings > Storage, my Jetstream shows I've got 10.77GB Available space under Internal Storage (out of 11.81GB). Under Tablet Storage, I've got 4.97GB Available (out of 16.12GB). As for the Internal Storage part, it has been like this, more or less, since I first bought the Jetstream 7 months ago.
My question is why do I get to use only 16GB out of the 32GB the Jetstream ships with? How do I get to use the Internal Storage for extra space? I had both the Tablet Storage (SD) and the External SD maxed out at one point, and needed to use that free 10GB. I ended up deleting a lot of stuff so that I could go on using it.
Anyone know how to access the unreachable 10GB under Internal Storage?
love the color coding...
its a bug. that's the state of things for now. maybe someday someone could take of it..
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Here's another one:
When I go into Settings > Storage, my Jetstream shows I've got 10.77GB Available space under Internal Storage (out of 11.81GB). Under Tablet Storage, I've got 4.97GB Available (out of 16.12GB). As for the Internal Storage part, it has been like this, more or less, since I first bought the Jetstream 7 months ago.
My question is why do I get to use only 16GB out of the 32GB the Jetstream ships with? How do I get to use the Internal Storage for extra space? I had both the Tablet Storage (SD) and the External SD maxed out at one point, and needed to use that free 10GB. I ended up deleting a lot of stuff so that I could go on using it.
Anyone know how to access the unreachable 10GB under Internal Storage?
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I used an app called partition table. As per that, the ~11GB of storage is assigned to the partition /data
So am trying to copy some stuff from my tablet storage (/sdcard) to the /data folder (under a new folder) using Root Explorer.
Shall report back with the details.
Edit: So I tried it - works. Can store the data in a folder within the /data partition. The available free space also changes. However, using apps like MX video player or ezpdf or anything else for that matter, I can not see the data I stored there - I need to go to root explorer and open the files from there. So I guess if you willing to live with this work around for now, may be worth it as we get ~10GB more additional storage. However, you will need to be extremely careful as to not delete anything besides your own data from the /data partition as it can cause quite some havoc if some essential files are deleted. And another important fact is that while wiping for installing a new rom/taking a nandroid-all that you place in the /data folder will also be wiped/backed up. So simpler solution till we get a dev to repartition the /data folder and allocate the additional free space (or part of it) to the /sdcard folder, it will be more sensible to just use a sdcard.
i've mentioned it to show_p1984.
he played with the device this week, and should probably start developing soon.
i'm guessing that if there's a work around - he could create a permanent solution.
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i've mentioned it to show_p1984.
he played with the device this week, and should probably start developing soon.
i'm guessing that if there's a work around - he could create a permanent solution.
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Basically the partition table needs reformatting - I know it is done and can be done. Have seen it done for the Samsung Galaxy S, ZTE Balde and also for Samsung Galaxy Ace. I do not however know how to do it - I think while making the rom, changes will have to be integrated because formatting the partitions is part of the process of rom flashing.
Also, there may a temporary easier workaround. There are apps like link2sd which basically make the android system think that a partition on your sd card is the system's /data partition. So we need the reverse. We will need a script which will create a folder in the /sdcard partition which will be linked to the /data partition of the system (or a folder in there). So if we add in some data/files into that particular folder, then it will automatically be referring to the /data partition. It will be like making a folder (say "STUFF") which has its location as "/data/STUFF" and having a shortcut to that folder in the partition /sdcard. We can try to create shortcuts and stuff but it will not be functional because it will be a shortcut. By linking it, we would be able to fool the 3rd party apps into thinking the data is on the sdcard while in reality it is stored on the /data partition, This is basiclally hypothetical logic based on what I found and my experience with link2sd. How far it is true/practical and going to work, I have no idea - so we will have to leave it up the devs.
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Here's another one:
When I go into Settings > Storage, my Jetstream shows I've got 10.77GB Available space under Internal Storage (out of 11.81GB). Under Tablet Storage, I've got 4.97GB Available (out of 16.12GB). As for the Internal Storage part, it has been like this, more or less, since I first bought the Jetstream 7 months ago.
My question is why do I get to use only 16GB out of the 32GB the Jetstream ships with? How do I get to use the Internal Storage for extra space? I had both the Tablet Storage (SD) and the External SD maxed out at one point, and needed to use that free 10GB. I ended up deleting a lot of stuff so that I could go on using it.
Anyone know how to access the unreachable 10GB under Internal Storage?
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And I think it will be more sensible to allowed to use a maximum of around 6-7 GB of the 12GB partition so that we will still have ample storage space of apps and stuff.
For all its cons, I still love this tablet.... :S
(and have yet to find a tablet with a better lens/camera)
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For all its cons, I still love this tablet.... :S
(and have yet to find a tablet with a better lens/camera)
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Agreed.
I'm sure this has been brought up - I just can't find it, so sorry if it's a repeat...
I've loaded the NT with the cherry pick 20130131 4.2 ROM, doing very well, loving it. Now one thing I noticed is that when starting some apps, they wouldn't start because "No SD card was installed"...weird...the app that did this to me was MX player, so I'm going to assume that it couldn't find the internal storage block to use. Just to get it to work, I shoved a 2GB SD card in it (blank one) - all was well after that, but questions remain...
>> I could have sworn I've seen posts where this type of storage configuration or mishap, whichever, was by design, or a known bug. Can anyone speak to that?
>> While cruising around in root explorer, what I found is that the /data folder seems to be where all my internal storage is - and you're saying DUH, but my point being if I go to the /storage folder, I see sdcard0 and sdcard1 - what I would expect here is that sdcard0 represents my 16GB internal storage, and sdcard1 represents my 2GB card...but it's not turning out that way... Here's what I see:
/storage/sdcard0 = the 2GB card I put in and it doesn't contain anything on it...
/storage/sdcard1 = 1GB of space with "android" material on it, which has things I'd normally associate with internal storage - movies folder, music, TWRP backups, an android folder, etc, so it's as if internal storage is not being fully used - not sure what this extra 1GB of storage is that it's using, but it's nowhere near big enough....
Sooo...I'm not even sure what to ask, but I'll try it like this, how do I make this /storage/sdcard1 area part of the full internal storage area instead of being restricted to 1GB in size, or is that something I even want to mess with?
Thanks in advance.
I'm using the fix in the first post of this topic for the kids' Tablet. I haven't had any problems like what the OP reports. I only edited the build prop and didn't touch anything else.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2068595
Edit: For clarification I've copied the part I used:
After more digging, I've found that the proper way to swap the storage locations was to add a line to /system/build.prop, with the persist.sys.vold.switchexternal parameter set to 1. That indeed worked and swapped the storage locations, but created some issues. Whenever I open some apps (like gallery), the process android.process.media crashes. Sometimes it even crashes alone.
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I tried a manual update to the vold file from the last post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37552173
But it seems I've just flipflopped my problem...
SDCARD0 now points to the 1GB area, and SDCARD1 now points to the 2GB removable card, neither pointing to the bulk area where the /data folder is pointing,
I'm sure I'm very close, just not quite there yet... I'm running the v4.2 rom, so perhaps there's a difference...
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If you haven't repartitioned your Tablet 1GB is all you get for user storage.
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If you haven't repartitioned your Tablet 1GB is all you get for user storage.
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Is that because of the way the Nook was partitioned before with stock?
No ROMs have addressed this to your knowledge? I've read about a "flashable" fix, but didn't get to read how successful it was LOL
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There is a topic describing how you can repartition yourself using ADB. There is also an option to use the repart.img that you'll find if you Google. It repartitions the same way they do if you take it to a BN store. I used that on one of mine and it worked beautifully. It gives 8 GB user storage and 5 GB for apps.
Has anyone else had problems installing larger apps? I tried installing "Broken Sword" from one of the Humble Bundles a while ago. It seems to just stop installing and says the application can not be installed. There is no detailed error at all.
I can install other (smaller) applications from the bundle. Maybe the partitioning is decided in a wrong way, I have the following:
Internal memory:
11,87GB - 11,52 free
Internal memory:
1,00 GB - 759 MB free
SD-Card:
7,41 GB - 5,69 GB free
The apk I want to install is on the SD-Card already and is 540MB which shouldn't be too much for any of the memorys, except maybe the second internal memory? Why is there this second internal memory?
SOLUTION 1: If you don't use an external SDcard changing the mount point of /sdcard1 and /sdcard0 should help, there is a package for that there: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32093304&postcount=179
OR you might want to consider to just make /sdcard1 a symlink to /sdcard0 with at least the drawback of not being able to use external sdcards anymore, as long as this is a symlink and not a directory - and maybe other sideeffects!
SOLUTION 2: Specifically for this app, the app itself has some glitches, see there the last post on how to install this specific app: http://forum.revolution.co.uk/topic/636/?page=4
Thanks for help and clarifying, maybe a repartition will be needed? (If it is needed, any link to a useful guide for someone that can manage UNIX / GNU/Linux systems but doesn't know too much Android specific stuff would be the most helpful)
Or is the problem maybe another one?
The partitioning isn't the issue, what else could be the problem?
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My System Details:
Nook Tablet bought from ebay with CM10 (I think) installed already in internal memory, but no working internal recovery - installed CWM 6.0.3.7 and CM10.1.2 internally using a bootable CM10.1.x sdcard. Maybe the partitioning also isn't the default but was done by the pre-owner.
Okay, seems like size wasn't the issue
I repartitioned according to the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1531120
And now made internal memory 1 to be 3,3 GB and Internal memory 2 to be 9,99 GB
Any of these still has enough space left, so there must be another problem ... any help?
Then some other issues that seem to persist: adb is shown "offline", I am running Linux and don't need to mess with Windows driver issues, all relevant solutions that I found for this didn't work, I also tried with data/factory reset and a new cm10.1.2 and nothing else on the system, still it is always "offline" ( adb in cwm works ).
Is there overall something else to care about with the Nook Tablet that I might have overlooked? It is also not too nice that the usual "central resource" for installing CM ( http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_acclaim ) does only show a non-working general guide... but I don't want to complain
I am also having the same issue. I have a nook tablet 16gb running CM 10.1 with 3.3 GB Internal Storage for all of the apps and 9.99 GB Internal Storage for everything else.
I have 2.8 GB free on the apps storage partition and 9 GB free on the other partition. when I go into Settings --> Apps and look at the SD Card tab, I see that 326 MB are listed as available for SD Card storage with 0 MB. I am not using an external SD Card.
I am unable to "move to SD Card" for any apps even though the option is highlighted. All apps have installed fine, but when I ran Minion Rush for the first time it stopped and said that I need 70 MB of available SD Card storage space to download additional data for the game. I have plenty of space available on both partitions, but for some reason this app doesn't recognize either of these partitions as an internal SD Card.
Is there a way to configure this device to use either of these partitions as internal an SD Card?
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Okay, seems like size wasn't the issue
I repartitioned according to the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1531120
And now made internal memory 1 to be 3,3 GB and Internal memory 2 to be 9,99 GB
Any of these still has enough space left, so there must be another problem ... any help?
Then some other issues that seem to persist: adb is shown "offline", I am running Linux and don't need to mess with Windows driver issues, all relevant solutions that I found for this didn't work, I also tried with data/factory reset and a new cm10.1.2 and nothing else on the system, still it is always "offline" ( adb in cwm works ).
Is there overall something else to care about with the Nook Tablet that I might have overlooked? It is also not too nice that the usual "central resource" for installing CM ( http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_acclaim ) does only show a non-working general guide... but I don't want to complain
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I figured it out bluesock. There is a former post that provides a solution. There is a ROM you will need to install that will fix this issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32093304&postcount=179
I copied the ROM to an SD Card then booted up into CWM and installed this ROM. After the reboot the second partition is renamed to SD Card and shows 10 GB of total space. Under file manager this partition is listed as sdcard 0 instead of sdcard 1. After that I was able to install apps of any size successfully.
Ok this "ROM" basically only modifies /system/etc/vold.fstab and switches sdcard0 around with sdcard1. This probably helps when not having a sdcard like in your case.
My problem wasn't this one, I have an external sdcard - so both sdcard0 and sdcard1 have enough space left!
But there was a problem with this specific app, check the last post on how to install: http://forum.revolution.co.uk/topic/636/?page=4 - sorry for not reporting back earlier, I will edit the first post in some minutes with our two "solutions" / explanations.
But first:
For you the better solution might be to do what digixmax said in that thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2430335
I will reply there in some seconds with more details about what he said!
Hi guys, so I've got this tablet for free with my new contract and I want to root it to play a bit with it . Do you guys have any idea how to do it ? I haven't managed to find any tutorials on the web .
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+1 on this issue.
I too have a Vonino Onyx QS tablet running on Android 4.4.2. The device is decent enough, but storage management is awful! Despite being advertised as an 8 GB tablet in terms of storage, the Onyx QS runs aground at about 900 MB of installed apps (including related data and cache) and starts yelling that there is "Insufficient storage available". This renders the tablet virtually unusable after installing just a few essential apps. Emails stop working, apps will no longer update and data-intensive apps such as Google Earth will simply refuse to run. The 32 GB external SD card I've added makes no difference. It's almost like the OS has no clue what to do with it.
I suck at Android. However, after a lot of digging for pieces of information I've come to undersand that these devices use separate partitions for the apps and other files. Some folks have also hinted towards the fact that the puny 0.9 GB app partition can be resized on a rooted device by means of a partition management app. Or apps could at least be moved to the SD card right before their installation (making use of an app such as Link2SD and, again, a rooted device).
This bring us full circle back to the OP's request: could someone please create and explain a rooting method for this tablet?
Just so you know, these are fresh screenshots of this fresh factory reset configuration. Thought it would fix the problem, but it didn't.
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Hi guys, so I've got this tablet for free with my new contract and I want to root it to play a bit with it . Do you guys have any idea how to do it ? I haven't managed to find any tutorials on the web .
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+1 on this issue.
I too have a Vonino Onyx QS tablet running on Android 4.4.2. The device is decent enough, but storage management is awful! Despite being advertised as an 8 GB tablet in terms of storage, the Onyx QS runs aground at about 900 MB of installed apps (including related data and cache) and starts yelling that there is "Insufficient storage available". This renders the tablet virtually unusable after installing just a few essential apps. Emails stop working, apps will no longer update and data-intensive apps such as Google Earth will simply refuse to run. The 32 GB external SD card I've added makes no difference. It's almost like the OS has no clue what to do with it.
I suck at Android. However, after a lot of digging for pieces of information I've come to undersand that these devices use separate partitions for the apps and other files. Some folks have also hinted towards the fact that the puny 0.9 GB app partition can be resized on a rooted device by means of a partition management app. Or apps could at least be moved to the SD card right before their installation (making use of an app such as Link2SD and, again, a rooted device).
This bring us full circle back to the OP's request: could someone please create and explain a rooting method for this tablet?
Just so you know, these are fresh screenshots of this fresh factory reset configuration. Thought it would fix the problem, but it didn't.
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try with Kingo ROOT. You do it at you'r own risk.
Successful rooting of Vonino Onyx QS tablet
Paget96 said:
try with Kingo ROOT. You do it at you'r own risk.
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Hi, Paget96! Thank you so much for the solution!
I'm writing this to let you, the OP and everybody else know that Kingo Root did it! I have succesfully rooted the tablet and the process itself was quick and merely a matter of installing the software on my PC, connecting the tablet via USB and clicking my way through.
Afterwards I installed Link2SD Plus to manage the transfer of apps from internal storage to the external SD card (32 GB in my case). The app is dirt cheap and truly what you need, because the free version does not allow you to move app data, only the app itself and its libraries. As I've come to know, data and cache build-up is what ends up killing storage space.
Before installing Link2SD however, one must prepare the SD card by means of a partitioning program. Highly recommend you do this via card reader on an actual PC. Use MiniTool Partition Wizard, it seems to be very popular these days. Delete whatever's already on the card and make two PRIMARY partitions: the first one will be FAT32 and will store the media you consume (like music, photos, videos etc.), while the second partition has to be ext4 (ext2 did not work for me on this tablet) and will hold the apps and their data. You can go ahead and name them "Media" and "Apps" respectively to avoid confusion. Remember: both must be primary partitions, the first one is FAT32 for media, the second is ext4 for apps. I made my app partition 10 GB big. Overkill, you say? Hey, I'm done with insufficient storage space errors, ok? :silly:
While you're at it, you might want to add a third partition for swap space to add more RAM to your device. There are tutorials for it on the web.
Once you're done formatting the card, reinstall it in the tablet, open up Link2SD and choose ext4 at the script mounting prompt. From there on, moving apps from internal to SD card space should be intuitive.
Prior to all this fiddling I suggest you perform a factory reset on your device so you can start clean. Can't tell you anythihg about custom ROMs or stuff like that because I didn't have a need for them. This thing works fine apart from that silly storage limitation.
Phew! I can finally enjoy using my tablet... :fingers-crossed:
Muravey said:
Hi, Paget96! Thank you so much for the solution!
I'm writing this to let you, the OP and everybody else know that Kingo Root did it! I have succesfully rooted the tablet and the process itself was quick and merely a matter of installing the software on my PC, connecting the tablet via USB and clicking my way through.
Afterwards I installed Link2SD Plus to manage the transfer of apps from internal storage to the external SD card (32 GB in my case). The app is dirt cheap and truly what you need, because the free version does not allow you to move app data, only the app itself and its libraries. As I've come to know, data and cache build-up is what ends up killing storage space.
Before installing Link2SD however, one must prepare the SD card by means of a partitioning program. Highly recommend you do this via card reader on an actual PC. Use MiniTool Partition Wizard, it seems to be very popular these days. Delete whatever's already on the card and make two PRIMARY partitions: the first one will be FAT32 and will store the media you consume (like music, photos, videos etc.), while the second partition has to be ext4 (ext2 did not work for me on this tablet) and will hold the apps and their data. You can go ahead and name them "Media" and "Apps" respectively to avoid confusion. Remember: both must be primary partitions, the first one is FAT32 for media, the second is ext4 for apps. I made my app partition 10 GB big. Overkill, you say? Hey, I'm done with insufficient storage space errors, ok? :silly:
While you're at it, you might want to add a third partition for swap space to add more RAM to your device. There are tutorials for it on the web.
Once you're done formatting the card, reinstall it in the tablet, open up Link2SD and choose ext4 at the script mounting prompt. From there on, moving apps from internal to SD card space should be intuitive.
Prior to all this fiddling I suggest you perform a factory reset on your device so you can start clean. Can't tell you anythihg about custom ROMs or stuff like that because I didn't have a need for them. This thing works fine apart from that silly storage limitation.
Phew! I can finally enjoy using my tablet... :fingers-crossed:
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10gb is too big, you will broke your sd.
Better use 512mb.
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10gb is too big, you will broke your sd.
Better use 512mb.
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Could you expand on that one, please? Why am I at risk of ruining the SD card?
Muravey said:
Could you expand on that one, please? Why am I at risk of ruining the SD card?
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Brcause sd work without stop, that is not good.
SD prob
Hi, i have the same tablet ... and i managed to root it ... but i cant manage to increse the storage . l've done the exact stepts ... installed micropartition deleted my sd card (2gb micro sd samasung) i did the first partition fat32 primary with a size of 800 gb and when i try to make the second one ext4 the program says that windows cant see the second partion on a removable device but i continuued anyways ,,, and created the second one with ext2 and then with ext4 as primary ... my windows and my tablet cant see the second partion ... need a little help ... thx
I heave installed the drivers, and nothing happens. Its not connecting to my pc. I changed the pc too. I heave the error: Unfortunately, Mobile data has stopped. I tryed to repair this with recovery -- Wipe data, factory reset. Not working.