What are your thoughts on using task killers or memory management apps on our S4s? I'm a bit mixed and not sure which one's are of the best benefit or work correctly.
I have the app: Temp/Cpu Widget : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sanels.tempcpuv2
which shows the "Free Memory" amongst other things on my home screen.
I definitely notice overall screen transitions and the loading of apps, ect... much more fluid when the free memory reports around 700ish or above
If it dips below 500 things seem to lag a bit.
Only way I've found to retrieve the memory back to the preferable amount to gain back performance is to use one of several available task killers or memory free up apps but I've read mixed reports on using these.
Is there a better way at keeping the max free memory for performance OR is there a preferable memory management tool you are using?
Lol! I was expecting quite a bit of chatter on this but nothing. :angel:
Maybe I should have put it in the Q & A section but I felt like not only did I point out a useful app being that Temp-Cpu app I linked to playstore but brought up an open discussion about said apps and in regards to the S4.
lazer9 said:
Lol! I was expecting quite a bit of chatter on this but nothing. :angel:
Maybe I should have put it in the Q & A section but I felt like not only did I point out a useful app being that Temp-Cpu app I linked to playstore but brought up an open discussion about said apps and in regards to the S4.
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The s4 practically has a built in task manager so not many would even consider an extra app to accomplish the same task.
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xM Minton Mx said:
The s4 practically has a built in task manager so not many would even consider an extra app to accomplish the same task.
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Agreed. That is what I use when on a TW ROM. On CM I just use the close all function in the recent apps window. Though RAM never seems to be as scarce on AOSP ROMs so I rarely clear apps.
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http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/02/revisiting-android-task-killers-and-why-you-dont-need-one/
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I use Clean Master and Lagfix running stock rooted touchwiz and have no lag whatsoever. Most the time I have 40-50% free memory, and I'm not a fan of task killers but this works great. Lagfix is a free app in the play store. Its similar to fstrim on a computer and manufacturers are going to be including it in future releases.
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I use Clean Master and Lagfix running stock rooted touchwiz and have no lag whatsoever. Most the time I have 40-50% free memory, and I'm not a fan of task killers but this works great. Lagfix is a free app in the play store. Its similar to fstrim on a computer and manufacturers are going to be including it in future releases.
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Thanks for reminding me of Lagfix. Giving that a shot.
I've found that the "broom" feature in "Floating Toucher" --> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.boatmob.floating.touch&hl=en
works rather well in conjunction with what I mentioned earlier about "Free memory reported" by the App in the OP and performance.
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Sorry if this has been talked about. But didn't find much on it. Are anyone using it? Do you recommended it? Free or paid version? I have tried the free one but didn't notice any thing.
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Worst app I ever bought. At first I thought it was the mutts nuts but as I learnt more about what my phone was really doing I realised that I used more battery with it running than without.
Don't get me wrong though its brilliant if you hardly touch your phone but if like me you cannot put it down then its absolutely pointless, I much preferred using a combination of apps to save battery's, llama a free task automation app, autostarts to stop things running in the background and fast reboot pro to free up some memory.
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Thanks for the advice and got fast boot pro which is ace
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Its a complete waste of money, i use battery defender instead its free & does a better job
Battery lasts a day, whether JD enabled or not.
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@scratch: as far as i know you don't even need to install any auto killer to terminate apps cuz Android has a feature through which it shuts down unnecessary apps when free space is required...
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@scratch: as far as i know you don't even need to install any auto killer to terminate apps cuz Android has a feature through which it shuts down unnecessary apps when free space is required...
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Nowhere did I mention any task killer and just fyi I know perfectly well how androids built in task killer works!
I also know that the android task killer has exactly the same flaw deep down as any auto taskkiller, all apps have certain parameters which when met will enable an app to start. These parameters range from things such as switching on wifi or mobile data to simply plugging in your charger therefore even the built in taskkiller is slightly flawed as an app which has been killed before can just restart as soon as one of its parameters are met.
Check out the app I mentioned autostarts which isn't a taskkiller as such but more stop the task parameters from being met in the first place.
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@scratch: as far as i know you don't even need to install any auto killer to terminate apps cuz Android has a feature through which it shuts down unnecessary apps when free space is required...
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Lol I love it. You learn something new!! Everyday on here.
" once its gone,its GONE."
slymobi said:
Lol I love it. You learn something new!! Everyday on here.
" once its gone,its GONE."
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Very little lately.........
@scratch: yeah bro the task killer (android) was known to me ... anyways i mistaken that app to be a task killer
@slymobi: yeah learning in here is quite a lot of fun
Guys im just curious if you use Task killer for your ZU device?
its like none of u here discuss about using an application to kill running applications that can slow down our device
due to the shortage of RAM.
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rudynasco said:
Guys im just curious if you use Task killer for your ZU device?
its like none of u here discuss about using an application to kill running applications that can slow down our device
due to the shortage of RAM.
Thanks
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Task killers actually mess up android, it's designed to cache as many programs as possible for fast app switching. Ive never had any problems with memory shortage on ZU ever.
The reason it's not discussed is because no one uses one.
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Task killers actually mess up android, it's designed to cache as many programs as possible for fast app switching. Ive never had any problems with memory shortage on ZU ever.
The reason it's not discussed is because no one uses one.
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thats great. tnx
i use some kind of it, but its just for monitoring, try find OS monitor on playstore.
i install around 400 apps on my ZU, so i need greenify, autostart, OS monitor for task monitoring and killing if any process turn to be a wakelock. :fingers-crossed:
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i use some kind of it, but its just for monitoring, try find OS monitor on playstore.
i install around 400 apps on my ZU, so i need greenify, autostart, OS monitor for task monitoring and killing if any process turn to be a wakelock. :fingers-crossed:
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thats alot of apps. but thanks
I wasn't aware that the OS optimizes the apps. I've always used GO Task Manager EX and put a widget on my home screen to kill everything.
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I wasn't aware that the OS optimizes the apps. I've always used GO Task Manager EX and put a widget on my home screen to kill everything.
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It is not optimizing the apps but rather optimizing the memory usage.
Guys, I just wanna ask few basic questions about the Clean Master Application which we can basically find in Google Play.
Is it safe to use ? I just wondering, because aside from the positive comments of its users, there are also negative feedback which specifically saying that it has a bad effect to phone's battery life. Some are saying that it will just drain your battery.
Thanks.
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Yeah it's safe to use as its not a virus or malware.
However android has a built in 'task killer' which frees up memory as it sees fit.
A lot of these clean up applications will kill an app which will relaunch straight away therefore causing more battery drain as the app is having to launch again immediately.
If you think your phone is too slow/the battery isn't good enough give it a shot for a few days and see if it is beneficial for you.
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Yeah it's safe to use as its not a virus or malware.
However android has a built in 'task killer' which frees up memory as it sees fit.
A lot of these clean up applications will kill an app which will relaunch straight away therefore causing more battery drain as the app is having to launch again immediately.
If you think your phone is too slow/the battery isn't good enough give it a shot for a few days and see if it is beneficial for you.
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Great ! Thank you Sir !
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Worst
I personally believe the app is spying on people, I'm doing lot of reserve engineering i will find out what is happening..
I personally suggest you don't use it.
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Guys, I just wanna ask few basic questions about the Clean Master Application...
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I find Clean Matter eats battery and is a little to aggressive with their advertising and permissions.
Try Power Clean, it's a deeper and easier on battery.
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Funfact: The Storage Manager in the Smart Manager App of the Galaxy S6 is powered by Clean Master.
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I personally hate that app since it ate a lot of battery drain, you dont need it since we already have a built in task killer just on left side of your home button lol
I got rid of it. Now I use CCleaner, which I suggest to use over Clean Master
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Funfact: The Storage Manager in the Smart Manager App of the Galaxy S6 is powered by Clean Master.
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Another Fun fact - MIUI Cleaner is also powered by clean master..
I personally believe that Clean Master is a fake app. I tried it and found that it eats up battery rigorously. If you want to see that just go to settings-> apps-> Running apps and you will see a lot of process from CM. It actually do nothing other than feeding your phone with junks and ads. If you are a rooted user, try the Purify by King root. I have tried it and found that it is really effective.
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I personally believe that Clean Master is a fake app. I tried it and found that it eats up battery rigorously. If you want to see that just go to settings-> apps-> Running apps and you will see a lot of process from CM. It actually do nothing other than feeding your phone with junks and ads. If you are a rooted user, try the Purify by King root. I have tried it and found that it is really effective.
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Anything by Cheetah Mobile is junk. Everyone knows that. The only thing Clean Master should be cleaning is all Cheetah Mobile apps including itself.
If anybody else is having issues running out of memory before we get root, here's what you can do.
Go to Settings>Apps, scroll to all, and see which ones you can Disable.
I haven't had any issues since I did that.
Also, ART has given me a lot of issues. If you don't know what it is then your fine.
Here's a link to see which apps can be disabled. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2829339
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No issues on ART for me.
Added a link to OP to see which apps can be disabled.
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Uninstall Sprint Recommended Apps. Or it reinstalls Nascar/NBA and all the other crap. I uninstalled them, rebooted, only for Sprint Recommended Apps to reinstall them. I disabled or uninstalled almost all bloatware. Can't get rid of Sprint ID or Sprint Zone. I actually use the Zone tho.
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Uninstall Sprint Recommended Apps. Or it reinstalls Nascar/NBA and all the other crap. I uninstalled them, rebooted, only for Sprint Recommended Apps to reinstall them. I disabled or uninstalled almost all bloatware. Can't get rid of Sprint ID or Sprint Zone. I actually use the Zone tho.
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Yeah, the Sprint stuff we're stuck with til we get root/unlock. If Sprint/LG stays true to form, we won't even be able to remove bloat until we get unlock.
I'm a minimalist as far as my phone, so I have very few apps and widgets. Im always modifying things to make stock better.
It amazes me though that we have 3gigs of memory and it easily goes down to 500mb. That's when I start having issues and why I posted this.
I don't even use FB or G+.
Can't wait for root/unlock to see what this phone is really capable of.
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Yeah, the Sprint stuff we're stuck with til we get root/unlock. If Sprint/LG stays true to form, we won't even be able to remove bloat until we get unlock.
I'm a minimalist as far as my phone, so I have very few apps and widgets. Im always modifying things to make stock better.
It amazes me though that we have 3gigs of memory and it easily goes down to 500mb. That's when I start having issues and why I posted this.
I don't even use FB or G+.
Can't wait for root/unlock to see what this phone is really capable of.
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Actually I've gotta give it up to Sprint/lg for actually giving us the ability to remove about 95% of the bloat. The very few that I actually couldn't uninstall I just hid. May not be perfect, but an effort was made to allow us some control, and that's a great start. Hope to see more of this in the future. [emoji106]
Sin, thanks for the tip.
Sorry wrong thread. Please delete
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I hadn't thought to run ART, but I decided to try it out. It's actually super smooth for me, no issues aside from Pandora, but I fixed that. No weird freezes or reboots like I had on my Note. The only thing that hangs slightly is Media Browser, but it's usable.
If only we had Xposed for ART. And root... good things come in time though.
I have been using an app for a few years now with some pretty good customization. Fast Reboot Pro. There is also a lite version. It works great for me. You can decide which apps it handles and if it will free memory when you unlock or lock your phone. Also a widget to free up memory when you need a quick boost, which is the way I use it.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.greatbytes.fastrebootpro
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I disabled google play store and Google play services, and now when I re enabled them it won't download any apps, any idea what's going on
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I disabled google play store and Google play services, and now when I re enabled them it won't download any apps, any idea what's going on
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Why would you disable them? Try clearing cache and data on them. If that doesnt work you can try to get copies of the apks.
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bpcivicsi said:
No issues on ART for me.
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Unfortunately my phone froze once a day on art.. Plus after I rebooted ..which wss a task in itself ...it would freeze at the yellow startup screen has to pull battery... Which with a otterbox defender is always fun. No issues since I switched back to dalvik
wojo797 said:
Unfortunately my phone froze once a day on art.. Plus after I rebooted ..which wss a task in itself ...it would freeze at the yellow startup screen has to pull battery... Which with a otterbox defender is always fun. No issues since I switched back to dalvik
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I had no issues with ART for about 2 weeks. Then one night I went to sleep woke up and some apps as well as some games started to act very funny. They would load then crash out the Facebook app itself would hang forever and never work yet the night before everything was working fine. I went back to dalvik and I've had zero issues since that time. ART was nice minus the issues I had I would love to keep using it.
What is this ART everyone speaks of
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What is this ART everyone speaks of
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Android Run Time. It's supposed to be better, more efficient than dalvik. It's under Developer options in settings.
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Why would you disable them? Try clearing cache and data on them. If that doesnt work you can try to get copies of the apks.
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Thanks, I'm going to try that, if not I'll try factory resetting
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To make typing easier, I will upload pictures for the specs.
I rooted my Samsung Galaxy tab 4 t230nu around a year ago, and I also put an overclock kernel on it. PLEASE note that the ROM and kernel I used to root this tablet was made specifically for the model tablet I am using. Note also because It worked great up until recently, when it has started to crash randomly, IMO suggest that it's not a compatibility issues with the Rom. It doesn't crash very frequently, i would say maybe once or twice a week. I am not sure if it is a out of memory issue or a background app causing it to crash. I will also upload the last kmsg. This last time it crashed, i was using Firefox beta. Thanks for taking the time to read this.
The custom rom and kernel I am using can be found via the below links.
ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tab-4/development/rom-prism-barebone-v1-t2991013
Overclock kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tab-4/orig-development/kernel-cpu-tweaks-tab-4-t230nu-t3101944
Thanks again.
This might sound bad but i think your putting to much pressure on the cpu by overclocking it. To fix this go back to stock rom
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boyam99 said:
This might sound bad but i think your putting to much pressure on the cpu by overclocking it. To fix this go back to stock rom
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I thought the same thing but this crashing issue has only started in last 4 months. I can stress test the heck out of cpu all night and it runs fine. I've tried several top cpu benchmark and stress test apps from the app store.
Might be malware. Try running a virus scan
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Could be the rom is not compatible or wrong bootloader
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Might be malware. Try running a virus scan
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Could be the rom is not compatible or wrong bootloader
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Do you reccomend anything in particular to scan for malware?
Test
trentenmarschel said:
I thought the same thing but this crashing issue has only started in last 4 months. I can stress test the heck out of cpu all night and it runs fine. I've tried several top cpu benchmark and stress test apps from the app store.
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Just to double check on the cpu stress theory, I let a stress test run all night, about 9 hours scaling test, and it did fine. See attached image.
Use malwarebytes
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I scanned for malware and found nothing.
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Could be a process. Does it say which process crashed?
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Could be a process. Does it say which process crashed?
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Not that i could tell but here is process list at the time of crash.
boyam99 said:
I couldn't tell directly which process is cause the issue but if you have titanium backup,backup your apps and data to a cloud storage
or a sd. Then perform a factory reset or flash the rom again
Knowledge is power......
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I still have a feeling that an app is eating my memory. Several of the times it crashed, i was using Firefox beta or it was on in the background. Is there any way to prove this or check memory logs? Or if there is a debugging app or something I can install that will provide more in depth logs?
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boyam99 said:
Beta means the development stage. for people to try out the product and detect any bugs. Try using Firefox(not the beta version) or the development version just use the normal version or reinstall the app. Or you could try force stop. If none if this solutions work try to see if you can find a task manager or process Explorer to locate the app or disable it completely. Since you said something about crashing in the backgroud use a 3rd party app like nova launcher instead of the stock launcher. Post the results and press the thanks button if this helped ☺
Btw if you're up to it do a nandriod backup of of your device and go back to stock without root. See if that makes a difrence or you could delete root on your rooted tablet and see if it crashes. Since your running a modded rom it probably has some serious bugs in it.
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Thanks I will give nova launcher a try. I have both versions of Firefox on my device. I've noticed issues with both. Also the rom I am using is mainly a debloated version of the stock rom. It actually runs and loads much faster than stock. Its also smaller by at least 800mb. Is there any app that i can use to monitor my ram so that i can tell if that is the problem? I have android assistant but its not what im needing.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.neotech.app.tinycore
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Thanks, i installed it. Every so often, I have to go through my apps and force close many of them I'm not using. Need a way to force close using task manager. It seems to help when I keep apps closed.
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Ok sorry you got dragged around. To find out what is causing it is a simple logcat. This will tell you just what is happening and is the go too tool for bug hunting.
As it is only a few times a week. I would put money on you being right. FF could easily. Be the cause as the mobile app is horrible. Worse then FB and that is saying alot. Lol.
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Ok sorry you got dragged around. To find out what is causing it is a simple logcat. This will tell you just what is happening and is the go too tool for bug hunting.
As it is only a few times a week. I would put money on you being right. FF could easily. Be the cause as the mobile app is horrible. Worse then FB and that is saying alot. Lol.
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Thanks. I've had a feeling it was a out of memory problem. I know Firefox and Firefox beta are huge memory hogs. I try to force close them when not in use. I just installed memory booster full and that tiny core app to monitor the ram. I do have alogcat installed and know how to use it to a point. Is there any way to have alogcat automatically save memory related logs to a file? That way I would be able to view the log from before it crashes and erases it.
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hey imbecbile i was helping the guy.Plz **** off.You dont know ****.I wasnt dragging him around i was trying to help.NOW ****OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hey, lets please keep my thread friendly! Ive recieved help from both of you. I have the tinycore ram monitor going. I just need more options for pre crash ram logging. Then I can go back to hard core power using my tablet to see if I can crash it.
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OK sorry about that.maybe you could Google pre crash ram logging app
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Dang it, it just crashed again. I was looking up a way to continously log memory to a file. I just selected the task manager key on my device to close an all storage search app and it locked up. Then i hit the power key to shut screen off and it rebooted.
I really need suggestions to log memory usage every few seconds to a file that will rewrite over itself. Like a security camera system.
Just looked at the kmsg log not sure what these error mean, or maybe they are normal for android.
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boyam99 said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.eolwral.osmonitor&hl=en
this is a app that could:
Processes - monitor all processes.
- Connections - display every network connection.
- Misc - monitor battery, processors, network interfaces and file system.
- Messages - search dmesg or logcat in real-time.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rechild.advancedtaskkiller&hl=en
This is a task manager to kill apps you think consume ram it could:
Advanced Task Killer is also known as ATK which is #1 task manage app. It is a tool to kill applications and boost memory.
-Ignore List
-One tap widget
-Auto kill
-Customize item height
this logcat app is free and records in the backgroud
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=scd.lcex&hl=en
Logcat Extreme is an enhanced Logcat/Dmesg reader and Logcat recorder which comes with a rich set of features and handy user interface.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ram.cleaner.RamCleaner&hl=en
this is a ram cleaner that could:
RAM Cleaner--->> Increase performance of Android Mobile & RAM on one Click.
Get More Free RAM space by clearing RAM from this app.
Will Continuously collecting RAM threads & errors
it will Resolve All RAM Threads & errors on clicking-->> Clean RAM.
You can use this app as a widget-like shortcut on your home screen.
Mobile Hanging Problem will Resolved By More Cleaning of RAM.
For understanding Check your RAM Status before/After Clean RAM.
So it collect ram error as well in the backgroud
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rs.autokiller&hl=en
this is also a ram optizer
If I helped you please hit the thanks button.If you need help feel free to reply.
Good luck!!!!
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Thanks, I just installed those and will test them tonight and in the morning. I've noticed random spikes in drop of performance (few times daily) could be memory related. I will give these a try. Mainly I feel that I am still troubleshooting the crashing. But hopefully I can pin point the problem with logging processes and memory.
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This may be a new thread type thing but using adb terminal I am trying to output bugreport to file and i can do that but it times out. Anyone know how to bypass the timeout limit?
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This may be a new thread type thing but using adb terminal I am trying to output bugreport to file and i can do that but it times out. Anyone know how to bypass the timeout limit?
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Nvm i figured it out. I had several bug report processes running in background so i killed them and tried again and it worked.
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