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I've been using my sgs3 with smart stay enabled and noticed it doesn't seem to be sensing me looking at it.. I wear glasses.. and I'm wondering if this is a limitation ?
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I also wear glasses and i find it works fine for me. Remember it doesnt work in low lights.
I Just tested it and it's not working without glasses on either. I see the 'eye' in the notification bar flash after 15 seconds, then it dims the screen, then again 5 seconds later and then screen switches off.
I've had smart stay enabled since day 0 and the phones had a few power cycles/reboots.
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Doesn't work for me with my glasses on or off. Must be my face!
doesn't work for me either. not smart
maybe the galaxy just doesn't like your faces?
maybe that's what samsung meant with it being smart. hehe
seriously i have read somewhere it is the face it is tracking not just the eyes.
It even worked when my Dogs were looking at at a few times, and it's annoying because often I put phone off to the side not looking at it and still stays on and wasting battery.
I'm sorry, I didn't realise Samsung required users to look like dogs for this feature to work.
I'm thinking of flashing a custom Rom anyhow.. be interesting to see f it works on another Rom.
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stuart.tavener said:
I'm sorry, I didn't realise Samsung required users to look like dogs for this feature to work.
I'm thinking of flashing a custom Rom anyhow.. be interesting to see f it works on another Rom.
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Well I do look a bit Ruff.
I just got my Galaxy. Seem to have the same issue, it's not working. Well I think there will be a software update soon enough.
If I consciously blink every so often I'm able to keep the screen on, but if I don't move or blink it turns off - at least that's how it seems to me.
Can't really get it working consistently yet.
I've had my phone since launch and it dimms but never turns off. I wear both glasses and contact lenses.
If the front camera is.nt pointed towards your face it may turn off however which is annoying sonetimes
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Hi,
I got smart stay working!
I opened the camera, switched to front facing and positioned the camera so that my face was in the centre of the screen and taking up about 50% of the area.
Now when switching to home screen the little eye kept popping up and going away and the screen stayed on!
Paul
I noticed it works flawless. I have it set too 30 seconds.
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Great
I find it very useful and works great, I don't wear glasses and I'v only had it two days but does as expected, I can look at it for 10 minutes and it won't turn off, if i point it away from me it turns off after my timeout.
I found if I closed my eyes and squinted one eye a tiny bit open it still didn't turn off though, but it's not like I'm playing hide and seek with it.
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I found if I closed my eyes and squinted one eye a tiny bit open it still didn't turn off though, but it's not like I'm playing hide and seek with it.
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Ha, that sounds like something I would do!
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I found if I closed my eyes and squinted one eye a tiny bit open it still didn't turn off though, but it's not like I'm playing hide and seek with it.
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Doesn't work for me
when i watch the screen, the screen didn't turn off, -> ok, this is work
but then i closed my eyes about 2 minutes, then when I opened my eyes, the screen didn't turn off
It works for me. I don't wear glasses though.
Correction, it has problems in landscape mode.
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I find it is a mixed bag. It rarely turns off when I am looking at it. But on lots of apps the screen dims meaning I have to touch the screen anyway. This rather defeats the point if you ask me!
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I was very excited by the Smart Stay feature of SGSIII but after a few days, experience, my opinion is that it does not work. I set the timeout to 15 sec. The eye flashes in the notification bar but most of the time screen is turned off. I tried staring directly at the front camera. Tried various positions too but no result. And all this is done in a normal lit room. Then I tried removing my specs and then it seems to work. Since I can't do much without them, so no fixed observation. Can anybody help?
do you wear glasses?
defia said:
do you wear glasses?
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Yes
Mine works even with glasses on
Toadeh said:
Mine works even with glasses on
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Any particular setting? Or particular angle at which you keep your phone? Mine for sure does not work. The eye flashes but then the screen is also turned off.
I have the same issue too. Does anyone know the issue and how to overcome it? Thanks
I get mixed results with it. It works under ideal conditions but I had to extend the dim period to use it in everyday use.
The icon appears to show that the phone is checking for a face and not confirming it saw one. I see it flash even when looking from an angle where I'm definitely out of the camera frame.
defia said:
do you wear glasses?
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Me and a friend we bought s3 and both of us having an issue with smart stay !It works after you open the device for the 15-30 minutes and after that nothing,after the eye appears the screen goes off!We are not wearing glasses!!So any idea what cause that?A possible bug of it?Or any future update will fix it?
you guys running on XXfl2 or whatever it is?
smart stay works really well for me, never has an issue, even at acute angles
It never works for me.
Then again... I'm way to ugly for my phone to stay with me.
Smartphone's R getting to smart I guess.
Works great for me too...
Samsung already stated they are working on improving the feature as it is not yet capable of handling some light conditions, and most glasses.
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Works fine for me with glasses, as long as the phone's front camera is pointing right at me.
The flashing eye means its searching for a face; the only indication that it has recognised you is that the screen doesn't turn off.
Same issue!
Yup, facing the same problem. Keep staring at the screen for hours for the damn thing to work. But it just wont. I have tried with my glasses off. Got the same result. The eye appears on the screen twice. The first time it dims the screen, the second time it shuts it off. I have tried different angles, but have finally resigned to my fate, unless XDA/Sammy figure it out!
not working for me 2
I am not wearing any glasses but it simply dont wok tried to change the angels but no luck ... hope it need improvement. This was the main reason to purchase the s3 but....
Mine works quite well, feels like its abit of a battery drain though.
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For anyone having issues this might be worth a shout.
http://www.redmondpie.com/iseeyou-b...-older-devices-running-android-2.3-or-higher/
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It needs to be a nice distance from your face to pick up your eyes, light is an issue too.
Its a nice feature that has some obvious issues on a 1.X MP camera.
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ronak47 said:
For anyone having issues this might be worth a shout.
http://www.redmondpie.com/iseeyou-b...-older-devices-running-android-2.3-or-higher/
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Samsung patented this feature so i guess the app dev is in a bit of danger unless he is not really rich.
Other apps wont be as good either, as smart stay was made with this hardware in mind (namely the camera). Others will have to bend and shape to fit multiple cameras, making detection algorithms not as strong.
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What I found out is that the timing of the two knocks is less important, what is more important is to keep the finger on the screen after the second knock. After the second knock just keep it on the screen until you see the LED lights up, and you'll see how more efficient it will become.
Im tapping on every other device since I have my LG!
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i go knock knock knock, it almost always helps.
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What I found out is that the timing of the two knocks is less important, what is more important is to keep the finger on the screen after the second knock. After the second knock just keep it on the screen until you see the LED lights up, and you'll see how more efficient it will become.
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Excellent information; exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
Yeah works good so far!
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I noticed most of the time when Knock On fails for me is because the phone isn't on a solid flat surface for example while I'm holding it in my hand or while it's on my bed.
This makes me think the accelermeter is used for this feature. So if you have too much "suspension", it won't trigger.
Just my thoughts!
Edit: I just tested with incredibly light touches and it still worked so perhaps it isn't accelerometer enabled. =S
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i go knock knock knock, it almost always helps.
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yeah, i hear if you say "knock knock" out loud as you do it, it works EVERY time.
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Great tip
Exactly what i was looking for although still a bit slow compared with what i had with my Nexus 4 and the touch control app. But at least I just do Knock knock once.
That really does work everytime.
Nice tip. I have been playing around with suggestions that I have seen elsewhere but yours seems to be the most consistent (I've done it 25+ times now in a row with your technique). I've even tried changing the rate at which I do the knocks (fast versus slow) and have also tapped on different parts of the screen. It seems like the key is leaving your finger on the screen on the second knock.
Previously some things that I read to increase the success rate were (each with mixed results):
- Always tap on the top of the phone (where the notification bar would be)
- Always tap three times instead of two
- Tap once and then pause slightly and then tap twice
On a side note, does anyone know how this feature works exactly? Is it simply the digitizer detecting the taps on the screen or is there something else going on?
I tried tapping on the back of the phone. This didn't work so the at least use the touchscreen for the knock knock feature.
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LoL
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kamiel said:
I tried tapping on the back of the phone. This didn't work so the at least use the touchscreen for the knock knock feature.
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Ya, after doing some more testing, it must be the touchscreen. The reason I thought it may have been something else is I have gotten it to work by tapping in the top right corner of the phone (presumably not on the screen) but that's probably b/c the bezel is so small. I haven't been able to get it to work along the bottom of the phone (over the LG logo).
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i go knock knock knock, it almost always helps.
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This! Works 99.9% of the time for me
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Im tapping on every other device since I have my LG!
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This as well!!!
I hate it bc that's how I was when the first iPhone came out...made me want to pinch to zoom my laptop screen. Now I find myself tapping the iphone or laptop to unlock but get mad when they don't lol
Knock On feature to turn screen on doesn't work if proximity sensor is covered (try to cover it and tap the screen - it will stay off). Also phone needs a short while to detect the sensor is not covered anymore. So if you pull out your phone out of a pocket and immediately try to turn screen on it simply won't work at first try. Second usually does the job. I've never really had a problem with unlocking the phone while it's on the table or something, when the sensor isn't (or wasn't two seconds ago) covered by anything.
So the reason of our problem is slow response from proximity sensor, it's super fast to detect the sensor is covered, but a lot slower to detect it's uncovered. (You can test it during the phone call - you'll see what I mean).
The solution is just wait a second after you pull out your phone from pocket or after you holding it the way it covers or is near the proximity sensor. I don't think guys triple knocking or keeping your finger on the screen is really helpful. ?
Maybe it can be fixed somehow by our devs, make the proximity sensor reacts quicker.
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Knock On feature to turn screen on doesn't work if proximity sensor is covered (try to cover it and tap the screen - it will stay off). Also phone needs a short while to detect the sensor is not covered anymore. So if you pull out your phone out of a pocket and immediately try to turn screen on it simply won't work at first try. Second usually does the job. I've never really had a problem with unlocking the phone while it's on the table or something, when the sensor isn't (or wasn't two seconds ago) covered by anything.
So the reason of our problem is slow response from proximity sensor, it's super fast to detect the sensor is covered, but a lot slower to detect it's uncovered. (You can test it during the phone call - you'll see what I mean).
The solution is just wait a second after you pull out your phone from pocket or after you holding it the way it covers or is near the proximity sensor. I don't think guys triple knocking or keeping your finger on the screen is really helpful. ?
Maybe it can be fixed somehow by our devs, make the proximity sensor reacts quicker.
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Probably does that so it won't come on by "knocking" in your pocket. Not a big deal for me at all. And the OP's method is working 100% of the time fur me. No need for 3 knocks any more.
I'd like to confirm what don't others have said and say that the most common mistake is tapping too fast.
Correct that the knock on only uses the sensor to avoid turning the screen on in your pocket.
However, if the touch screen constantly listens for these knocks while it is turned off, shouldn't that consume at least a considerable amount of battery?
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Noam23 said:
What I found out is that the timing of the two knocks is less important, what is more important is to keep the finger on the screen after the second knock. After the second knock just keep it on the screen until you see the LED lights up, and you'll see how more efficient it will become.
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this is an excellent tip, thanks! I went from knock knock knock knock, to knock knock and hold and its worked every time for me..
Exellent tip thanks!
Works 100% of the time now! :good::victory::laugh:
This tip however, does not apply to turn off the device. Two quick taps (and release) takes care of that always!
Cheers!
noob question
Noam23 said:
What I found out is that the timing of the two knocks is less important, what is more important is to keep the finger on the screen after the second knock. After the second knock just keep it on the screen until you see the LED lights up, and you'll see how more efficient it will become.
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sorry for this really really dumbass question but when u say "After the second knock just keep it on the screen until you see the LED lights up"
i infer 1 knock (tap and lift finger) and then 2nd one is not actually a knock (tap and lift finger) but just tap and keep ur finger there itself
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is it 2 knocks and then (after second lift of finger) jst touch the screen again
good i really feel like dumbest dumb on this planet asking this question but please do reply
i dont yet have g2 but planning on buying it so i cant confirm myself what u meant
I really want to "Shake to wake" my TrueSmart to just check the time. I have been doing this action with my pebble since I got it and its the last thing I need to address for this to really satisfy my user experience. Thanks to @Lokifish Marz we know about WatchOn and the sensor issue that is with the TS 1/8 1900 Firmware. Does anyone have a work around for this?
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I really want to "Shake to wake" my TrueSmart to just check the time. I have been doing this action with my pebble since I got it and its the last thing I need to address for this to really satisfy my user experience. Thanks to @Lokifish Marz we know about WatchOn and the sensor issue that is with the TS 1/8 1900 Firmware. Does anyone have a work around for this?
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I use the app "Shake" by Adl_Dev. It works well.
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I use the app "Shake" by Adl_Dev. It works well.
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I have that installed but not much luck. Any config advice?
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I have that installed but not much luck. Any config advice?
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I think I have the sensitivity at like 14 or 15 or 16. Sometimes it takes a pretty good wrist shake (rapid counter-clockwise to clockwise motion) to get it to wake up, but it works reliably. Generally if I know im gonna look at the watch, ill shake it first then raise it up to look at it.
Great thanks for the info
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how is it on battery life? Just installed so thanks as well, but curious to hear since the app warns you that it will consume a lot when off
Try Awesome on/off
I tried several different versions of shake to wake apps and the most consistent was Awesome on/off app. It has a tilt angle sensitivity so when I bring my arm up to look at the watch it turns on the watch face screen so I can tell what time it is. I set my watch for display off in 15 seconds but 30 seconds seems ok. Battery life seems fine. I can run my watch with a full charge all day. I plug it into the charger in the evening. I intermittently play with it through the day and mostly use it for sms notifications from my Note 3 using SMS forward app on my Note 3 and checkbook using anMoney app.
I also use Shake with somewhat what reliable results.
I combined it with Llama to turn the screen off after 7 seconds when Watchfaces is the current app or running in the foreground with it set to cancel if the condition is no longer true.
Both if these work most of the time.
My phone's always-on display will turn off. I can't bring it out of it's 'slumber' anyway other than plugging it in. It instantly pops out of sleep and works fine. I'll lock it and while I can see the always-on display the fingerprint reader will unlock it with no problems. This just started in the past hour for me. I've tried resetting the phone and the issue still pops up, and quickly at that.
Are you using a case or screen protector? Could be something interfering with the ambient light or proximity sensor causing the phone to think it's in your pocket at all times?
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Actually just tested this. Covered the top sensors and the always on display turned off and fingerprint sensor no longer worked just like you described
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Are you using a case or screen protector? Could be something interfering with the ambient light or proximity sensor causing the phone to think it's in your pocket at all times?
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Actually just tested this. Covered the top sensors and the always on display turned off and fingerprint sensor no longer worked just like you described
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You may be right about that. I'm using a lifeproof case and I had just opened it up to clean off the inside (I had shown someone the phone earlier and dog hair found its way to the inside of the case). Funny thing is I turned it completely off and let it sit for a time, as opposed to the restart I did earlier, and it's working alright now. Maybe I just needed to reset it's calibration by resetting it?
Anyone know how to disable this weird dependence on the light sensor? I just don't understand why it would ever disable itself because it's dark.
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My phone's always-on display will turn off. I can't bring it out of it's 'slumber' anyway other than plugging it in. It instantly pops out of sleep and works fine. I'll lock it and while I can see the always-on display the fingerprint reader will unlock it with no problems. This just started in the past hour for me. I've tried resetting the phone and the issue still pops up, and quickly at that.
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I read this is a feature of the phone. The always on will turn off in your pocket or in a darkened room. Nice idea since you do not need to be using the juice then. You can test this in a dimmly lit room by cupping your hands over the display to block the light.
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I read this is a feature of the phone. The always on will turn off in your pocket or in a darkened room. Nice idea since you do not need to be using the juice then. You can test this in a dimmly lit room by cupping your hands over the display to block the light.
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Sure, but it won't turn on even when I press the back button. Pretty obnoxious when I'm sitting in a blacked out room and I have to hold it up to the computer screen to activate it.
Yeah, I'm sorry I didn't read the thread carefully. That sucks. I'm in a dark room now watching video. The display turned off, I heard a notification, when I picked up the phone it came on. I do not like that that the led notifications stop. I'm not sure what happens to sound notifications when the always on goes off. I prefer to set the phone silent until a certain time in the AM and then use a sound profile to get notifications and a low volume.
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Sure, but it won't turn on even when I press the back button. Pretty obnoxious when I'm sitting in a blacked out room and I have to hold it up to the computer screen to activate it.
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I would return it for another or send it in on warranty.
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I would return it for another or send it in on warranty.
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I'm thinking it was the Lifeproof case I have on it. It all worked fine for a week then when I tested the case for waterproof it failed (the phone wasn't in it). I sent for another one and it seems to be working alright now. Maybe it had something to do with the inside of my case getting wet? I don't know.
Great! Enjoy your phone g why are we still calling these things phone?). I like the G5. Now that we have torur I am hoping their for some nice tweaks.
I've had this happen too and it made my life proof case useless because I couldn't use my phone with it on it I still have the issue once in a while but not nearly as often anymore
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