Got the G2 on launch day from a Verizon store here in town. Phone is great, no doubt about that. What worries me is that this appears to be a hero phone without much demand. HTC has done a great job of marketing the One, and everyone knows Moto. The G2 on display at the Verizon store is jammed between an iPhone and an older model Samsung something-or-other with no signage other than a huge "Samsung Galaxy" poster on the wall behind it.
If I keep this, it will be the third device in a row that I've bought as a "flagship" which wound up getting the cold shoulder in many ways.
First I had the HTC Incredible, probably the most popular of the bunch. While it did have ROM development, it was quickly forgotten when the HTC EVO came out seemingly a week later. Accessories were few and far between.
Second was the Galaxy Nexus, heralded as a "Google experience" device on Verizon. After endless launch delays, it came out and was quickly forgotten by Verizon and Google both. Accessories were few and far between.
Now I have the LG G2, a great device with awesome specs! I actually don't mind the Verizon/LG "skin" on this so much. But again, Verizon had to **** it up with changing the buttons and making the thing thicker. Accessories will be practically nil for this device other than the three cases from Verizon at launch. There will be countless Chinese imports that will claim to fit but will not, because the back-alley factories making this crap don't give a damn about doing anything per spec. Just make it look vaguely correct and slap a knock off hello-kitty design on the back and call 'er done! "Your Happy Plastic Partner" indeed!
I am also afraid that development will completely stall on this device because everyone will head to the Nexus 5...
Sigh... I should just go trade for an HTC One, I think... I don't know. I am torn.
The moto x isn't selling well (att rep who owns a moto x said he hasn't been able sell a single one) HTC marketing well, are you kidding? They are losing money head over heels even with the one. They only thing with LG is, they have a very small market share they are not Apple or Samsung.
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This forum seems pretty active. I think anyone who develops knows about the phone. Give it some time. Rome wasn't built in a day.
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This forum seems pretty active. I think anyone who develops knows about the phone. Give it some time. Rome wasn't built in a day.
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Yep. Welcome to new xda forum syndrome. This is what a new device forum looks like the first week ?
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DeaconBoogie said:
Got the G2 on launch day from a Verizon store here in town. Phone is great, no doubt about that. What worries me is that this appears to be a hero phone without much demand. HTC has done a great job of marketing the One, and everyone knows Moto. The G2 on display at the Verizon store is jammed between an iPhone and an older model Samsung something-or-other with no signage other than a huge "Samsung Galaxy" poster on the wall behind it.
If I keep this, it will be the third device in a row that I've bought as a "flagship" which wound up getting the cold shoulder in many ways.
First I had the HTC Incredible, probably the most popular of the bunch. While it did have ROM development, it was quickly forgotten when the HTC EVO came out seemingly a week later. Accessories were few and far between.
Second was the Galaxy Nexus, heralded as a "Google experience" device on Verizon. After endless launch delays, it came out and was quickly forgotten by Verizon and Google both. Accessories were few and far between.
Now I have the LG G2, a great device with awesome specs! I actually don't mind the Verizon/LG "skin" on this so much. But again, Verizon had to **** it up with changing the buttons and making the thing thicker. Accessories will be practically nil for this device other than the three cases from Verizon at launch. There will be countless Chinese imports that will claim to fit but will not, because the back-alley factories making this crap don't give a damn about doing anything per spec. Just make it look vaguely correct and slap a knock off hello-kitty design on the back and call 'er done! "Your Happy Plastic Partner" indeed!
I am also afraid that development will completely stall on this device because everyone will head to the Nexus 5...
Sigh... I should just go trade for an HTC One, I think... I don't know. I am torn.
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If you're worried about development checck the lg optimus g's thread its still going today http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2339403
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If you're worried about development checck the lg optimus g's thread its still going today h://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2339403
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I feel the op pain I had the G pro witch I felt was the most underrated phone ever and coming from the note 2 it was way better than the note2 and the G pro was DOA LG has zero marketing as well as a very bad reputation of leaving customers out to dry as far as updates. LG makes bad ass phones no doubt but needs a lot of work in marketing and support
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I feel the op pain I had the G pro witch I felt was the most underrated phone ever and coming from the note 2 it was way better than the note2 and the G pro was DOA LG has zero marketing as well as a very bad reputation of leaving customers out to dry as far as updates. LG makes bad ass phones no doubt but needs a lot of work in marketing and support
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True. That's the literal only thing that worries me... updates. Moto x I'm sure will beat g2 to updates (the other phone I have) but that's the only plus for the phone other than size.
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True. That's the literal only thing that worries me... updates. Moto x I'm sure will beat g2 to updates (the other phone I have) but that's the only plus for the phone other than size.
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I'll never own another moto, there like Apple always one or two years behind in hardware, I mean really 720p??!!! Duel core??
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I'll never own another moto, there like Apple always one or two years behind in hardware, I mean really 720p??!!! Duel core??
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Specs or no specs, anyone I know that has or has tried a MotoX loved it. I think whats killing them is the $199 for a 16GB non-expandable phone, sitting right next to a 32GB Galaxy S4 and HTC One for 149, the LG G2 for 199, etc.
And their goal with that phone WASNT balls to the wall specs....it was supposed to reliable and economical (but again the high price question still applies)
I have used the moto x and can tell you the 720 display and processor really are fine. The software enhancements kick total ass. That being said this phone Absolutely destroys it on every front. I absolutely hate amoled. Way too dim.
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Specs or no specs, anyone I know that has or has tried a MotoX loved it. I think whats killing them is the $199 for a 16GB non-expandable phone, sitting right next to a 32GB Galaxy S4 and HTC One for 149, the LG G2 for 199, etc.
And their goal with that phone WASNT balls to the wall specs....it was supposed to reliable and economical (but again the high price question still applies)
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I agree with u on price, but every moto sense the OG X has been one step behind with there flagship phones
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Specs or no specs, anyone I know that has or has tried a MotoX loved it. I think whats killing them is the $199 for a 16GB non-expandable phone, sitting right next to a 32GB Galaxy S4 and HTC One for 149, the LG G2 for 199, etc.
And their goal with that phone WASNT balls to the wall specs....it was supposed to reliable and economical (but again the high price question still applies)
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This. Everything is fine with the moto x, and I'd still be using it if the battery was decent but lately I've been getting idle drain that I can't figure out. As for amoled, it's great indoors, terrible outside. If LG steps their game up with update frequency I have no problem keeping this phone for a long time. Same goes for the moto x if I was somehow getting the 5+ hours of screen on time per day some people are reporting. Oh, and one grip with lg. Why is there not an option to make the buttons on the bottom like aosp to have the recent apps button and not just the menu...
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If the LG G2 dont get rom support and community love i'll be surprised. I say this because its a flagship device from LG and available on all 4 major carriers; just like the htc one, galaxy phones & moto x. We just need a unlocked bootloader.
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If the LG G2 dont get rom support and community love i'll be surprised. I say this because its a flagship device from LG and available on all 4 major carriers; just like the htc one, galaxy phones & moto x. We just need a unlocked bootloader.
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And the fact that they aren't as high profile as the other brands might mean it's easier to unlock
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If the LG G2 dont get rom support and community love i'll be surprised. I say this because its a flagship device from LG and available on all 4 major carriers; just like the htc one, galaxy phones & moto x. We just need a unlocked bootloader.
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I hope so, it was sad to see the G pro DOA. I'm still holding out to see what Scott does, I'm sure the FreeG guys will get the bootloader bypassed
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Sigh... I should just go trade for an HTC One, I think... I don't know. I am torn.
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No, you do NOT want an HTC One. I just sold my One for the G2...the G2 completely destroys the One in every way except for speakers and construction material, which are two minor things IMO since I prefer using headphones and the G2 feels solid/premium even though it's not metal. The One IS a great phone, but not as great as the G2. I really don't care if the G2 isn't bought in mass by the masses because I know I have a great phone and that's all that matters. I will be a little disappointed if there aren't many custom roms, but I'm OK with that because the stock rom is super smooth and customizable, plus I will be less tempted to constantly swap roms if there aren't many available
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. Oh, and one grip with lg. Why is there not an option to make the buttons on the bottom like aosp to have the recent apps button and not just the menu...
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Maybe it's just me, but I'm starting to like the menu button instead of the multi tasking one. I don't have to look around for that 3 dot menu button on the screen anymore.
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And the fact that they aren't as high profile as the other brands might mean it's easier to unlock
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Wishful thinking, but if its true I'm an LG fan from now on. Maybe since they made and/or making the new nexus they are more lenient to unlocked bootloaders?
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Wishful thinking, but if its true I'm an LG fan from now on. Maybe since they made and/or making the new nexus they are more lenient to unlocked bootloaders?
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Actually I think the blame for locked bootloaders falls on the carriers, not the manufacturer. S4 is unlocked but not on VZW, etc.
LG will do whatever VZW tells them (or lets them). But VZW may not care if they really dont think this phone will sell well, or if they arent marketing it very much (which, as we can tell, they are NOT)
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Actually I think the blame for locked bootloaders falls on the carriers, not the manufacturer. S4 is unlocked but not on VZW, etc.
LG will do whatever VZW tells them (or lets them). But VZW may not care if they really dont think this phone will sell well, or if they arent marketing it very much (which, as we can tell, they are NOT)
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They aren't marketing it AT ALL. I've seen some Droid Maxx commercials though and an even recent Moto X commercial but zero for the LG G2.
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OK, so i was thinking about either getting this phone or waiting to see what shows up at CES.
I know CES is tomorrow so i was wondering if a phone that has better specs comes out.
If You guys can recommend a phone or even give a suggestion i would greatly appreciate it.
I'm used to the Motorola atrix 2 if that helps
I need it to be AT&T and be running at least ICS but preferably JB
I have to wait til March for an upgrade
Thanks
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The LGOG has ICS but runs like JB. Imagine the power it'll have when it gets JB.
The way mobile technology has been speeding along, by March, something with better specs will definitely be out/announced. Then you'll just have a short wait till you can get your hands on it. Today, I would absolutely recommend this phone. Best specs out there but, cmon, by March you probably need to be looking ahead.
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There will always a better phone around the corner. At some point you have jump in.
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In all honesty... I would wait to take a look at what the Galaxy S4 will bring since you have to wait until March anyway.
Galaxy S4 will have a huge selection of accessories and ROMs
However,
I have chosen the LGOG for the following reasons:
1. My upgrade was close to its release.
2. I paid $100 for a phone-beast.
3. It is the first quad-core phone with LTE on AT&T.
4. The display is not 5 inches or more.
5. It is basically a nicer Nexus 4. (I have learned that hardware as close to the current Nexus device as possible is a very safe bet)
6. The last phone that I though was this sexy was a Nexus One. This thing is gorgeous.
thanks guys
Thank you to all who replied
I think all the wow factor phones are getting held up for mobile world congress next month. All I really saw so far that was interesting was the new xperia ZL or whatever it was, but given sony's track record there will be an updated version by march.
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If you're going to be waiting until spring, I'd keep my eyes out for devices using the upcoming SnapDragon 600 or 800 processors that were just announced. The specs on these chipsets are amazing...40 to 75 percent more powerful than our Snapdragon S4 Pro processors.
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If you're going to be waiting until spring, I'd keep my eyes out for devices using the upcoming SnapDragon 600 or 800 processors that were just announced. The specs on these chipsets are amazing...40 to 75 percent more powerful than our Snapdragon S4 Pro processors.
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DAMMIT QUALCOMM... take a break... let me enjoy this feeling for a while.
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DAMMIT QUALCOMM... take a break... let me enjoy this feeling for a while.
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That's the way of the gadget world. As soon as you buy the latest and greatest, it's already obsolete.
Take comfort that everyone who buys one of those new Qualcomm chipped phones will be surpassed just as quickly by the next thing to come out.
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Take comfort that everyone who buys one of those new Qualcomm chipped phones will be surpassed just as quickly by the next thing to come out.
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I can't wait. :B
Nastybutler said:
Take comfort that everyone who buys one of those new Qualcomm chipped phones will be surpassed just as quickly by the next thing to come out.
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This makes me feel better... slightly.
I won't ever consider a Sony phone, especially on AT&T, given that their phones come with locked bootloaders that can't be unlocked. International versions are easily unlocked. By Sony. Just not the US versions. I should know, I had a Sony Xperia Play phone for a while and I recently returned an Xperia TL.
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The thing that kills me, and this isn't an attack, is that a lot of people are like "I would NEVER get this phone because it's made by this!"
Like me, I personally don't like Samsung. And I make it a point to not buy their phones.
Sony's I have no experience with and I've only had an LG twice (this phone and a flip phone when I was 14).
But my point is people say they hate LG for whatever reason and then sell this phone and by the N4, which yknow, made by LG.
Again, not at attack! I was simply doing research on when the N5 was coming out and all these people are like, I HATE LG, NEXUS ALL THE WAY (sent from my N4). It's just laughable.
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The thing that kills me, and this isn't an attack, is that a lot of people are like "I would NEVER get this phone because it's made by this!"
Like me, I personally don't like Samsung. And I make it a point to not buy their phones.
Sony's I have no experience with and I've only had an LG twice (this phone and a flip phone when I was 14).
But my point is people say they hate LG for whatever reason and then sell this phone and by the N4, which yknow, made by LG.
Again, not at attack! I was simply doing research on when the N5 was coming out and all these people are like, I HATE LG, NEXUS ALL THE WAY (sent from my N4). It's just laughable.
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I hope they were being ironic... and not moronic.
I only had Sony's first Android phone.
It was meh, I heard they did better after that.
It is AT&T I would never buy.
They are a terrible and lock down all their phones.
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I'm going to have to say the latter, lol.
Funny enough one of those people was AndreaCr.
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I hope they were being ironic... and not moronic.
I only had Sony's first Android phone.
It was meh, I heard they did better after that.
It is AT&T I would never buy.
They are a terrible and lock down all their phones.
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FWIW, they did much better. Their newest Xperia Z(L) looks like magnificent work of art.
As long as you're waiting, see what the S4 has to offer. Samsung's have custom ROM's about 7 hours after the first go on sale. Also, by then, the development on this phone should really be kicking into high gear (knock on wood). Also, you might catch wind of the LGOG2 then.
However, at some point there is about only so much power you're going to need in a handset that everything else becomes overkill. These phones are almost as powerful/fast as a mid-level laptop, but you don't want to type out a long word doc on them or edit an excel file. Finally, this will probably cost a coke and a smile by then compared to the S4 or LGOG2.
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I'm going to have to say the latter, lol.
Funny enough one of those people was AndreaCr.
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Haha! Now in the N4 forums.
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FWIW, they did much better. Their newest Xperia Z(L) looks like magnificent work of art.
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Yeah, I love the aesthetics of the xperia phones... haven't looked that one up yet though.
I would never judge a phone by it's manufacturer.
Look at Motorola. We went from the original Verizon Droid to the piece of sh**t Backflip on AT&T. Then we have the Atrix 4g, which in my experience had nice specs, but overall was a terrible quality phone.
HTC use to be the kind of Android phones, and now they have dropped off. (Look at their latest earnings).
Also do not forget the earliest Android offering by Samsung that I can remember - Samsung Moment for Sprint. That thing was all kids of ugly and slow.
I used to work for an eBay reseller, and played with 100 - 150 phones per day. Manufacturer is really irrelevant. You have to look at the unit as in individual.
I get that it's not a Nexus 4 and it's around $100 more off contract. I also get that the GS3 has more brand awareness, but this is a really awesome phone. I actually think the LG skin is good and adds a lot of functionality over stock Android.
I have a GS3, Note II, iPhone 5, and Lumia 920. This is my favorite phone out of all of them. The screen, feel in the hand, speed, and software touches make it almost a perfect device. Battery life has been good and my only real complaint is that the camera could have been better.
So what's holding it back? Marketing? I know LG has stumbled in the past, but this is not one of those times. I honestly probably wouldn't have even thought to buy the phone if not for the article about Consumer Reports rating it above the iPhone 5 and GS3 in customer satisfaction. I had to see what it was about and fell in love with it right away in the store.
As it stands, I couldn't recommend this phone more highly to people on AT&T who want an Android phone. I would definitely recommend it over the GS3, and that's saying a lot. The lack of activity in these forums, along with the sparse development tells me that it's definitely not getting into enough hands, and that's unfortunate.
LG's has a rather tarnished reputation as far as smartphone is concerned, they've had long lines of disappointing and mediocre mid-tier releases over the years plus poor record of software updates. Even with a phone like OG, it's going to take awhile to reboot their image.
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LG's has a rather tarnished reputation as far as smartphone is concerned, they've had long lines of disappointing and mediocre mid-tier releases over the years plus poor record of software updates. Even with a phone like OG, it's going to take awhile to reboot their image.
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Nuff Said.
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It's got 1M users, so I'd say it's selling well for a phone not made by Apple, Samsung, or HTC.
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It's got 1M users, so I'd say it's selling well for a phone not made by Apple, Samsung, or HTC.
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That's definitely encouraging, but it could be much better and the forums are a ghost town comparatively.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_briefly_makes_it_2nd_top_phone_manufacturer_in_the_us-news-5371.php
I've not been a great fan of LG until this phone. I briefly considered that 3d camera phone from 2011 on AT&T that LG made, but ultimately chose the SII (and I made the right choice; I was one more f-ed up phone from buying an iphone). This phone impressed me in reviews and in stores (the demos blew me away). I chose it against the SIII and the One X and other flagship phones due to it matching what I wanted. I loved most of the SIII, but I hated that it had a physical home button. The one x seemed nice, but I didn't like non expandable storage and an unremovable battery. The only thing I had against the LGOG was the battery being built in; however, everything else about it sold me. I feel that LG has finally made a phone worth it (2 phones counting the Nexus), and have the potential to beat Samsung. However, this is an uphill battle for LG. I personally have known people to pick the SIII just because Samsung is the most widely known. LG will have to fight against that in order to be purchased. Plus, people are more impressed by expensive phones, and sometimes buy the expensive ones because they assume those are the best. I really think that that, oddly enough, is also contributing to the LGOG having slightly lower sales numbers.
Tl;dr
LG has a fight with Samsung due to name recognition, and price drops may have had a negative effect. Many customers don't research phones thoroughly, and buy from a certain brand, or the expensive ones (because you get what you pay for).
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I'm happy for getting the phone for only $49, but I can't grasp the reason behind the price drop. OG is their only qualified flagship in years yet they are on sale at the price point of low-end giveaways. Granted it's probably just weekend promo but still, I find it odd to lower the price to this range in a non-holiday season.
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I'm happy for getting the phone for only $49, but I can't grasp the reason behind the price drop. OG is their only qualified flagship in years yet they are on sale at the price point of low-end giveaways. Granted it's probably just weekend promo but still, I find it odd to lower the price to this range in a non-holiday season.
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I think the reasoning behind the price drop is building for the future, if you get your best phone in as many hands possible, the people who by it recommend the brand to others and are more likely to buy lg in the future when its time to upgrade.
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I think the reasoning behind the price drop is building for the future, if you get your best phone in as many hands possible, the people who by it recommend the brand to others and are more likely to buy lg in the future when its time to upgrade.
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I know if any of my friends are looking into a new phone I will put in a good word for the OG. And that is funny because when it came out I originally looked at it and then went "Nah, I still want the One X."
By the time I was able to upgrade, the One X+ was out, at double the price of the OG and I didn't want an outdated phone. Now I'm not saying the One X isn't good, it had just already been replaced by a refresher phone.
I am soo happy with this phone.
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I know if any of my friends are looking into a new phone I will put in a good word for the OG. And that is funny because when it came out I originally looked at it and then went "Nah, I still want the One X."
By the time I was able to upgrade, the One X+ was out, at double the price of the OG and I didn't want an outdated phone. Now I'm not saying the One X isn't good, it had just already been replaced by a refresher phone.
I am soo happy with this phone.
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The Tegra 3 isn't all that great for speed or battery and I can't stand HTC's broken multitasking.
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The Tegra 3 isn't all that great for speed or battery and I can't stand HTC's broken multitasking.
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Half of the reason I made this decision.
I had a Sony Xperia X10 with an ancient 1Ghz snapdragon and then got an Asus Transformer with a Tegra 2...
So I was impressed more by Nvidia/Tegra at the time than Qualcomm/Snapdragon (I know, completely unfair).
But I had been reading everywhere that the S4 Pro was a beast and much better than Tegra 3s.
I don't like Sense anyways and I would have had a custom ROM, so the multitasking wasn't a big deal.
We have an extra gig of RAM to play with too. :highfive:
could it possibly be that the talk of the optimus g pro is throw the prices so low and being released soon.
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could it possibly be that the talk of the optimus g pro is throw the prices so low and being released soon.
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Doubt it. If the price stays low in states, doesn't bode well with G launch in Europe, unless LG do a dual tier launch of G & G Pro at the same time, but that's a remote possibility given G is set for March release in EU region.
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could it possibly be that the talk of the optimus g pro is throw the prices so low and being released soon.
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There's always something else around the corner. The Pro is likely months from hitting the U. S. on any carrier.
In all honesty, I'd still choose the G. I prefer the size and the 200mhz overclock would hardly be noticeable.
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There's always something else around the corner. The Pro is likely months from hitting the U. S. on any carrier.
In all honesty, I'd still choose the G. I prefer the size and the 200mhz overclock would hardly be noticeable.
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Completely agree. And it won't be long until we are able to overclock our phones too.
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There's always something else around the corner. The Pro is likely months from hitting the U. S. on any carrier.
In all honesty, I'd still choose the G. I prefer the size and the 200mhz overclock would hardly be noticeable.
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As I've heard before, "Don't chase technology 'cause you'll lose."
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Completely agree. And it won't be long until we are able to overclock our phones too.
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Not to mention that 1080p display will require more processing power making the speed difference negligible.
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Speaking critically of the android community for a brief second..
As much as people criticize Apple fans for putting too much value in brand name, a lot of Android fans are really overly zealous Samsung fanboys.
I won't say it's a bad brand or that the phones they make aren't nice.. But, taking a stroll to the Android subreddit you will find a lot of rabid Samsung fanboyism.
We hear less criticism of Samsung these days because they are just that popular.. still I remember as though it were yesterday people wouldn't shut up about how cheap the phones felt, how horrible various aspects of touchwiz were..
And sadly a lot of people won't even consider the LG OG because it's not Samsung.. but, if Samsung were to incorporate some of the LGOG features people would rave over it. I can see it now... slipping the LGOG specs and skin into a Samsung shell and hearing people brag and brag and act as though it Samsung were curing cancer.
Outside of that, honestly at $350 the N4 makes a hell of a deal. Even if you had a contract but, would like to keep your service without signing up for another 2 years would be a nice option.
Besides all of that? Well your average customer is told what to buy really. Speaking as a salesman I can tell you, if you don't know what you are buying, I'll be happy to tell you. (Granted I no longer work in sales but, it was a lesson learned.)
Edit: one final thought. I don't care because I'm honestly just that happy with it..... but, we still don't have an official cm10 port and that hurts us big time.
Consider this before buying. No flame intented. I simply was planning to get one myself then changed my mind.
http://www.phonedog.com/2013/04/10/i-want-htc-s-one-but-google-io-2013-has-me-worried/
Underground_XI said:
Consider this before buying. No flame intented. I simply was planning to get one myself then changed my mind.
http://www.phonedog.com/2013/04/10/i-want-htc-s-one-but-google-io-2013-has-me-worried/
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I'm not particularly worried; I actually posted some thoughts about Google I/O earlier today:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/10/4209366/a-prediction-for-google-i-o
I'm quite happy with Android 4.1, so I guess it depends what KLP brings, but it's hard to imagine Google bringing anything that would make me want to abandon HTC's awesome camera software (which is one of the reasons I personally prefer HTC phones).
I bought a One XL last year around the same time, and Google I/O didn't make me regret that decision. Besides, this time I'll have a One XL I can mess around with if I want to install CM11 or something.
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I'm not particularly worried; I actually posted some thoughts about Google I/O earlier today:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/10/4209366/a-prediction-for-google-i-o
I'm quite happy with Android 4.1, so I guess it depends what KLP brings, but it's hard to imagine Google bringing anything that would make me want to abandon HTC's awesome camera software (which is one of the reasons I personally prefer HTC phones).
I bought a One XL last year around the same time, and Google I/O didn't make me regret that decision. Besides, this time I'll have a One XL I can mess around with if I want to install CM11 or something.
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Precisely. Personally, I feel HTC is on the brink of a huge change, they've already dropped the source code and the phone hasn't even shipped in US yet! Also, it will definitely help to have the same device across several carriers (Even international ones!)
I feel the winds of change wafting from HTC and I must say, I love it.
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Precisely. Personally, I feel HTC is on the brink of a huge change, they've already dropped the source code and the phone hasn't even shipped in US yet! Also, it will definitely help to have the same device across several carriers (Even international ones!)
I feel the winds of change wafting from HTC and I must say, I love it.
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I am definitely super-excited that the international and NA versions of the HTC One use the same chipset - that was one of the big issues with the One X and One XL last year.
This phone will get key lime pie without a doubt.
The development will be huge for this device
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Underground_XI said:
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jkt97401 said:
I feel the winds of change wafting from HTC and I must say, I love it.
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Not to be the voice of doom or piss in anyone's Cheerios but HTC's in a world of hurt. The shipping delay for the One's cost them dearly financially and now its actual availability is going to bump up against Samsung's gazillion dollar marketing budget for the SGS4. Samsung also co-ops heavily with the U.S. carriers for advertising and provides big sales incentives down to the associate level. And if you walk in to a Best Buy you'll be greeted by Samsung's "Experience" sound and light show while a dummy One sits lonely and tethered to an end-cap somewhere next to a "free" LG Phone. With a Nexus 5 possible at I/O, an iP5s and lower-cost iPhone in June, Motorola's "Phone X," a Note III, and LG's 1080P 5" and 5.5" Optimus Pro Plus' all due by fall, the One's going to get lost in a sea of other devices a few months after launch because of HTC's (now even more) limited promotional budget. They have a tough road to hoe and 2013 will determine their future.
Here's an interesting discussion on HTC's current position from the international One forum...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2226471
Hmm I just sold my Nexus 4 because I never ever used it. It was never a real upgrade from the Galaxy Nexusnif you ask me. Adding a new processor and 1 extra GB of ram n a shiny back doesn't wow me
Silellak said:
I'm not particularly worried; I actually posted some thoughts about Google I/O earlier today:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/10/4209366/a-prediction-for-google-i-o
I'm quite happy with Android 4.1, so I guess it depends what KLP brings, but it's hard to imagine Google bringing anything that would make me want to abandon HTC's awesome camera software (which is one of the reasons I personally prefer HTC phones).
I bought a One XL last year around the same time, and Google I/O didn't make me regret that decision. Besides, this time I'll have a One XL I can mess around with if I want to install CM11 or something.
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I have a canon eos 60D. You might consider buying that if you give the camera such importance.
BarryH_GEG said:
Not to be the voice of doom or piss in anyone's Cheerios but HTC's in a world of hurt. The shipping delay for the One's cost them dearly financially and now its actual availability is going to bump up against Samsung's gazillion dollar marketing budget for the SGS4. Samsung also co-ops heavily with the U.S. carriers for advertising and provides big sales incentives down to the associate level. And if you walk in to a Best Buy you'll be greeted by Samsung's "Experience" sound and light show while a dummy One sits lonely and tethered to an end-cap somewhere next to a "free" LG Phone. With a Nexus 5 possible at I/O, an iP5s and lower-cost iPhone in June, Motorola's "Phone X," a Note III, and LG's 1080P 5" and 5.5" Optimus Pro Plus' all due by fall, the One's going to get lost in a sea of other devices a few months after launch because of HTC's (now even more) limited promotional budget. They have a tough road to hoe and 2013 will determine their future.
Here's an interesting discussion on HTC's current position from the international One forum...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2226471
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I'm 99% sure that the next Nexus phone won't be at I/O. Also, the 5s won't be much to write home about. The S models never are.
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Underground_XI said:
I have a canon eos 60D. You might consider buying that if you give the camera such importance.
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I prefer a smartphone camera that's always with me.
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YoungAceAtlanta said:
Hmm I just sold my Nexus 4 because I never ever used it. It was never a real upgrade from the Galaxy Nexusnif you ask me. Adding a new processor and 1 extra GB of ram n a shiny back doesn't wow me
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Then why are you here? Trolling?
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At least the writer is still getting the HTC one. Lol
Anyways there's always a new os comming out at io. A new nexus 5 ? Nah that's this fall.
A new nexus 7? Yes. Google glass? Yes.
Thew question is will HTC upgrade to 4.2 to 5.0 or from 4.1 to 5.0?
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expertzero1 said:
At least the writer is still getting the HTC one. Lol
Anyways there's always a new os comming out at io. A new nexus 5 ? Nah that's this fall.
A new nexus 7? Yes. Google glass? Yes.
Thew question is will HTC upgrade to 4.2 to 5.0 or from 4.1 to 5.0?
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I believe they will, considering this is HTC's flagship phone.
This is an easy one for me. I'll just keep my Nexus 4 around until I/O. If what Google shows at I/O wows me and I can get it on the Nexus 4, I'll consider selling the One, but DAMN, it would have to be some mind blowing software for me to give up such amazing hardware and go back to a slower processor, worse screen, worse camera, worse speaker, cheaper materials, and no LTE.
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This is an easy one for me. I'll just keep my Nexus 4 around until I/O. If what Google shows at I/O wows me and I can get it on the Nexus 4, I'll consider selling the One, but DAMN, it would have to be some mind blowing software for me to give up such amazing hardware and go back to a slower processor, worse screen, worse camera, worse speaker, cheaper materials, and no LTE.
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It will be. It is 5.0
Got me thinking...
Whole argument is stupid in my opinion. It's clearly cut black and white. If you want immediate updates to current version of android go for a nexus. If you want real hardware get the HTC One. Unless HTC builds a nexus the new one won't be special.
I don't know why people buy carrier subsidized phones then complain when it stays a version behind. The phone company is there to make money. Put on your big boy pants and go nexus or shut up about it. It's really that simple
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Whole argument is stupid in my opinion. It's clearly cut black and white. If you want immediate updates to current version of android go for a nexus. If you want real hardware get the HTC One. Unless HTC builds a nexus the new one won't be special.
I don't know why people buy carrier subsidized phones then complain when it stays a version behind. The phone company is there to make money. Put on your big boy pants and go nexus or shut up about it. It's really that simple
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It must hurt you knowing your $600 phone will be 2 versions behind in only one month since it came out
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It must hurt you knowing your $600 phone will be 2 versions behind in only one month sonce it came out
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My point still stands. It's a phone, not a liver or heart that you have no choice on. My point is why ***** and moan about it when you yourself can do something about it and go elsewhere
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PhoneDog and PocketNow have both posted dogfight videos with the HTC One:
PhoneDog part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coZpqx9F0c0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
PhoneDog part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=891vPmhiGn8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
PocketNow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s40pHPwUxbM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Men in really wanting to get the G2 but I'm trying to wait and see what Google has up it's sleeve with the new nexus phone
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Men in really wanting to get the G2 but I'm trying to wait and see what Google has up it's sleeve with the new nexus phone
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I always look at it like this, especially with phones that get a lot of dev support.... Buy whichever non-nexus phone that you like the most based on specs, screen size/quality, hardware, camera, etc.
Then like I said, if there is a lot of dev support, just flash an aosp based rom of your choice if you want the nexus experience.
I personally always like to have the option of going back to a manufacturer ui if I want to. But I understand if you only like stock android. And I understand your hesitation since this phone isn't guaranteed any sort of dev support.
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That's one reason I like the s4 is because at least I have the Google edition Roms. But then I have the same concerns you had for leaving the s4. I had the optimus g last year and Dev support picked up after I had left and gone to the note 2.
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That's one reason I like the s4 is because at least I have the Google edition Roms. But then I have the same concerns you had for leaving the s4. I had the optimus g last year and Dev support picked up after I had left and gone to the note 2.
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Haha foreal, I have the Optimus G for Sprint running 4.3 with no bugs. Very thankful :thumbup:
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I'm rocking both the HTC DNA and G2. So far w/o root\unlock on G2, IMO, DNA w/ CM 10.2 > G2. But I'll have patience. The dev's will get it. I trust them
i'll have the one and g2 come tomorrow (as well as a lumia 1020) if i find some time i'll put together a comparison. personally i'm curious as to the hand feel of the g2 vs the one as i've been hesitant to get above 5" screen phones for a while due to them seeming too big for a phone. the g2 on paper seems like it might hit that sweet spot in size for me.
i'm curious to see how the camera stacks up to the one and 1020, as the 1020 has the best camera i've seen on any phone ever.
yeahh... G2 Roockkk.... i prefer G2 feature than every S4 air feature,
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I'm rocking both the HTC DNA and G2. So far w/o root\unlock on G2, IMO, DNA w/ CM 10.2 > G2. But I'll have patience. The dev's will get it. I trust them
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I'd love your opinion on further comparisons between the phones. I have a DNA ATM but have that incurable upgrade itch, though paying around with software has gotten me by this far. My ego is telling me to wait until next July when I have another upgrade but my id is telling me to get in the car and go to verizon ASAP,
BLUF: I'd wait until unlock and ROM'd and purchase a matte finished cover with it.
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I'd love your opinion on further comparisons between the phones. I have a DNA ATM but have that incurable upgrade itch, though paying around with software has gotten me by this far. My ego is telling me to wait until next July when I have another upgrade but my id is telling me to get in the car and go to verizon ASAP,
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It was not tough to justify spending $140+tax on the G2 knowing I could sell it ASAP and exit my verizon plan with the ETF paid by anyone wanting to pick the phone up today.
Continuing on the comparison, I've put Nova on, added the double click to sleep from sleep lock and the G2 is solid. The battery and fast charging are great. Fast charging my phone yesterday from 50% to 100% was under 1.5 hrs. Only down side would be picking up another fast charging plug. I have two DT-900s for wireless charging, home and work, and love that Verizon included the wireless charging feature as well. If you do not already own one, pick it up ASAP from AT&T for $25/ea, rumored to be available at 3 for 60. On the G2, Automatic dimming is "different". I'm not a fan of LGs auto dim feature. You set a baseline % for auto dimming, but the function seems lacking adaquate rapid adjustments from dark to light conditions in comparison to the DNA's.
I picked up the G2 for the clean bezel w/ on screen buttons, wider screen, included wireless charging capabilities and huge battery. Two out of four are found on the DNA. My dislikes on the G2 non-matte finish\fingerprint magnet back, LGs implementation of auto diming on this device (could be me, could be their design), and the locked bootloader\rom.
The HTC one has been out since May I think or maybe April and of course a newer phone will outperform it but that doesn't mean it's still not a nicer phone overall. The HTC one max will be a better comparison.
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Hey guys I'm trying to decide which of these devices I should upgrade to. Mainly asking the people who have had both the one and the g2.
I'm leaning towards the one because of the great speakers and I've heard the screen has more accurate colors. The screen is my biggest priority I want the most realistic looking screen for pics and vids. Do u notice the 40 pixel density difference? The difference in super LCD vs IPS?
Also will the g2 get decent dev support? Another reason im leaning towards the one.
Also interested in overall experience. Thanks for your input.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447206
Display comparison: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7251/lg-g2-and-msm8974-snapdragon-800-a-quick-look/2
bryanhayn said:
Display comparison: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7251/lg-g2-and-msm8974-snapdragon-800-a-quick-look/2
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So it looks like the ones screen is better in most of those graphs?
I have both HTC one and LG G2 but I had sold the One already.
1. 5.2" > 4.7" (But the size & hand feel is similar)
2. Snapdragon 800 > Snapdragon 600
3. HTC One has purple camera issue (physical damage to CMOS due to over exposed, not fixable, need to send back to HTC to change the camera)
wwmkst said:
I have both HTC one and LG G2 but I had sold the One already.
1. 5.2" > 4.7" (But the size & hand feel is similar)
2. Snapdragon 800 > Snapdragon 600
3. HTC One has purple camera issue (physical damage to CMOS due to over exposed, not fixable, need to send back to HTC to change the camera)
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Me too I am thinking of swapping my One with G2 because of the camera and screen (too small)
I am just afraid to miss the loud volume of the One,can you make the G2 as loud as the One thank to tweaks??
My HTC one had the purple camera. Battery life was horrid. Hated the blink feed as well lol. Loving this G2 so far
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Get the g2. Sold my one for the g2 and ddnt regret. The only good thing on the one against the g2 is the boomsound and thats it.
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So I take it most of you don't flash custom ROMs?
Heisenberg420 said:
So I take it most of you don't flash custom ROMs?
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Where are these G2 custom ROM'S you speak of?
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Where are these G2 custom ROM'S you speak of?
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Exactly my point.. Obviously it's a new device but we already know the HTC ones dev support is going to be hard to beat.
Heisenberg420 said:
Exactly my point.. Obviously it's a new device but we already know the HTC ones dev support is going to be hard to beat.
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HTC One dev support doesnt help on the VZW version (considering they quickly shut down the HTC Dev site before anyone could root/unlock bl)
I can see the G2 dev support being close to the same as the Gnex, and thats saying a lot.
Heisenberg420 said:
Exactly my point.. Obviously it's a new device but we already know the HTC ones dev support is going to be hard to beat.
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Just give it some time
If you unlock it, they will come
Heisenberg420 said:
Exactly my point.. Obviously it's a new device but we already know the HTC ones dev support is going to be hard to beat.
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Yeah that's right. Especially Viper ROM for the HTC One is the best custom ROM I've ever seen on any Android device. The possibilities for tweaking stuff are endless. It would be very hard for me to give up on this.
I'm definitely looking to sell my one for the g2
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I can see the G2 dev support being close to the same as the Gnex, and thats saying a lot.
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Just curious, what gives you that idea? It would be awesome if true, but it's kind of hard to believe. GNex support has been awesome since the beginning and, while tapering off now 2 years later, is still going strong.
I'm a manager at a verizon store and I own both devices right now. Personally the One is a good device and all but its already an old device and the dev support is there if you get s-off which by no means is easy. Hboot 1.54 is virtually impossible to get around at the moment unless you send your device somewhere to get it done. Even though I use apex launcher to skin Sense 5 wasn't horrible besides blinkfeed because you cant get rid of it at all. Battery sucks on the One also and there's no denying that. The one has a beautiful screen and the speakers and the build quality thats it. The g2 has awesome battery and the screen is awesome. Software wise I actually like there skin but you can easily root and change stuff. The g2 will have good dev support I believe. In the end its up to you though but either phone you will like. :good:
I'll chime in too.
I had the One and now the G2, with a brief two-week stint on an S4 as well. I prefer the G2 overall to all of these devices. The screen is fantastic and once you look at it, it's hard to go back to the 4.7" screen of the HTC One. I know the question was "which has more accurate colors?" but as far as usability and pleasing to the eyes, it's the G2 hands down (for me).
What completely sold me was the battery life of the G2. My One was dead by the end of my work day and the G2 battery life is easily hours longer. Strangely enough, the device does not feel any larger than the One in any way. I love the rear buttons, the camera is great and really the only thing I can see the One having is front-facing speakers. Yes, I will miss those, but it's a rare occasion where I actually rely on my phone speakers for entertainment.
All in all, I think the G2 is the best phone out right now. I would have tried the Xperia Z1, but I'm not playing the waiting game for a US release again (and it will probably be $759 anyhow). I walked into the AT&T store and paid the retail price of $579 for this G2 and will never look back. Yes, it's plastic, but it's built extremely well and just feel lovely to hold. It's so much phone for $579, especially considering the retail prices of the other two I had were higher, if not significantly.
Oh, one last thing - the G2 has a notification light that you can actually see. The One has one that you can see if you know which of the 200 speaker grill holes to look at
Edit: One last, last thing...I rooted mine, installed TWRP and flashed Scott's CleanROM this morning. With all the AT&T junk gone, this phone is darn near perfect.
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Heisenberg420 said:
Hey guys I'm trying to decide which of these devices I should upgrade to. Mainly asking the people who have had both the one and the g2.
I'm leaning towards the one because of the great speakers and I've heard the screen has more accurate colors. The screen is my biggest priority I want the most realistic looking screen for pics and vids. Do u notice the 40 pixel density difference? The difference in super LCD vs IPS?
Also will the g2 get decent dev support? Another reason im leaning towards the one.
Also interested in overall experience. Thanks for your input.
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I called about 10 different Tmobile stores in the Western Chicagoland area. 8 of them have the phone in stock but none have it in white. I was told I would have to wait until Wednesday 9/25/13 to see if its available on the official launch day...
That sux. I had my One all packed up ready for exchange...
Personally, If you're choosing between them, I think your thread & my thread have just about all the different reasons why we should switch to the G2.
It seems the general consensus are people who had the HTC One are happier they switched to the G2 despite all the Boomsound speakers the One provides.
You lose that with the G2 but gain in all other departments. That's why I'm switching
NateK said:
Just curious, what gives you that idea? It would be awesome if true, but it's kind of hard to believe. GNex support has been awesome since the beginning and, while tapering off now 2 years later, is still going strong.
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Carried by all major carriers, and international
Spec-wise its a developers (and geeks) dream
Already been rooted and Loki-d so its ready to receive any custom ROM developed for it.
I don't think it will be very long before we see CM on it either. It seems to be that once CM is there, lots and lots follow.
Ive used a ton of different ROMs on my Gnex but I keep coming back to the same 2 or 3, and I know at least one of them is fully prepared to port to the G2 if they can get the files/hardware they need.