So coming from the Verizon gnex I miss the openness of doing whatever I wanted with the phone. And while I do love this phone, I'm contemplating returning it at the end of my 14 days in order to wait and see what the next Nexus is like. I know people are doubting it's coming to Verizon, but I would rather have that option open to me if it does come to big red. Anyone else is this same boat?
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Are you talking about the fact that the bootloader is still locked?
It hasn't even been a week yet, and the phone isn't even out on all carriers.
I have faith that the device will be modded soon. Just hang in there.
(Also, if the FCC documents prove accurate, Verizon is not going to carry the next Nexus.)
MoNsTeReNeRgY22 said:
So coming from the Verizon gnex I miss the openness of doing whatever I wanted with the phone. And while I do love this phone, I'm contemplating returning it at the end of my 14 days in order to wait and see what the next Nexus is like. I know people are doubting it's coming to Verizon, but I would rather have that option open to me if it does come to big red. Anyone else is this same boat?
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I also came from the Galaxy Nexus and miss the open architecture of the G2... but after rooting it and making a few minor changes I'm liking the G2 more and more.
I suspect the bootloader issue will be resolved soon and then we'll be able to load Cyanogenmod or other ROM's on the G2. Then we'll have the fastest phone with the best screen on the market.
I'd suggest you root now and load a root keeper to block any potential OTA that will further complicate the bootloader issue.
unless android 4.4 is set up to completely change battery life and how the phones will work with battery... I do not think the 2300 mah battery will compare to the 3000. So to me G2 will be a better bet, I guess that depends on the person
joshuadjohnson22 said:
unless android 4.4 is set up to completely change battery life and how the phones will work with battery... I do not think the 2300 mah battery will compare to the 3000. So to me G2 will be a better bet, I guess that depends on the person
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Actually Ive read of and experienced better battery life on 4.3 (on my Gnex), so its possible 4.4 might be better still.
If the bootloader gets unlocked on the G2, I can only imagine how fast the phone will run with something like Vanir or Commotio.
And I dont think VZW will ever get another "pure Google" phone, especially if the lockdown they did on the S4 is any indication.
I would never buy a nexus from verizon or at&t, or any big carrier lol.
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I would never buy a nexus from verizon or at&t, or any big carrier lol.
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Its rumored to be sold on the play store, like the gnex and the nexus 4
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Its rumored to be sold on the play store, like the gnex and the nexus 4
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I would hope this not be a rumor and just a fact. The playstore should be the first to sell the next nexus before any carrier. Thats where I purchased my previous ones.
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I also came from the Galaxy Nexus and miss the open architecture of the G2... but after rooting it and making a few minor changes I'm liking the G2 more and more.
I suspect the bootloader issue will be resolved soon and then we'll be able to load Cyanogenmod or other ROM's on the G2. Then we'll have the fastest phone with the best screen on the market.
I'd suggest you root now and load a root keeper to block any potential OTA that will further complicate the bootloader issue.
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If i were to purchase this device (very close to deciding this way), how do i do a "root keeper"? I saw on here how to root the device but never heard of this "root keeper" thing? Sorry still new to this whole android scene coming from iphone 4 and now running HTC One X+, my first ever android device and loving it! Just don't see how other companies can top this device any time soon and not at all impressed nor need this new HTC Blink Feed crap that they will push on all new/upcoming HTC devices that probably still won't be as amazing as this device in the next 6 months. Thanks!
The new Nexus, when it passed through the FCC, didn't carry the bands necessary to operate on Verizon's network. That is to say, Verizon won't have it.
I'm sure the next Nexus will be great, and I considered holding off on a purchase until it launched. However, in the end, I opted for hardware once again over software, and the G2 has all the bells and whistles in the hardware department. The Nexus is a fantastic option though if you favor software and being completely free to customize your experience.
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If i were to purchase this device (very close to deciding this way), how do i do a "root keeper"? I saw on here how to root the device but never heard of this "root keeper" thing? Sorry still new to this whole android scene coming from iphone 4 and now running HTC One X+, my first ever android device and loving it! Just don't see how other companies can top this device any time soon and not at all impressed nor need this new HTC Blink Feed crap that they will push on all new/upcoming HTC devices that probably still won't be as amazing as this device in the next 6 months. Thanks!
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There's an app call "OTA root keeper" and works quite well in keeping root after an OTA. Worked on my Asus tablet and my samsung note 2. Have not tried it on my samsung s4 though as I haven't gotten any OTA yet.
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There's an app call "OTA root keeper" and works quite well in keeping root after an OTA. Worked on my Asus tablet and my samsung note 2. Have not tried it on my samsung s4 though as I haven't gotten any OTA yet.
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Oh ok, that's awesome! So after i root, i download and install this app, and IF there is an OTA update for this device i am still able to access and download/install it and this app will make sure my device stays rooted?
If worse comes to worse and after doing the above the app doesn't work, can i just still do the same root procedure after the OTA? Thanks!
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Oh ok, that's awesome! So after i root, i download and install this app, and IF there is an OTA update for this device i am still able to access and download/install it and this app will make sure my device stays rooted?
If worse comes to worse and after doing the above the app doesn't work, can i just still do the same root procedure after the OTA? Thanks!
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Ya but make sure when you open the app you do a "protect root" first before doing the OTA. After OTA open the app again and do a "restore root". Thats it. In some cases you may need to reboot again after restore root.
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Ya but make sure when you open the app you do a "protect root" first before doing the OTA. After OTA open the app again and do a "restore root". Thats it. In some cases you may need to reboot again after restore root.
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Ok, thank you for explaining. Will keep this in mind if i get this device but will be a month or two. Hopefully by then this device will be bootloader unlocked and won't need all the fixins.
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And I dont think VZW will ever get another "pure Google" phone, especially if the lockdown they did on the S4 is any indication.
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Not this year but next Fall is a real possibility when Verizon is planning on introducing 4g-only phones late next year. Once VoLTE turns on and CDMA exits the scene, all you need is band 4 and 13 compatibility in the next LTE/GSM Nexus.
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I'm sure the next Nexus will be great, and I considered holding off on a purchase until it launched. However, in the end, I opted for hardware once again over software, and the G2 has all the bells and whistles in the hardware department. The Nexus is a fantastic option though if you favor software and being completely free to customize your experience.
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Thats a good point, software can only take you so far in the long run anyways.
I am still stuck in this conundrum, keep the G2 with the real possibility that it may never get AOSP but stay on unlimited on Verizon's network, or return it and wait for the Nexus 5 and switch to T-Mobile unlimited with worse coverage, or Aio with better coverage but 8mbps speed limit and 7GB/month data limit. Decisions, decisions.
EDIT: Well, I just talked to a guy at work who said T-Mobile's network around here sucks so that's out. Now it's stay on VZW with G2, stay on VZW with GS4 Developers Edition for my flashing addiction and AOSP or go to AT&T or one of the many MVNOs who use their network and get the Nexus 5, not an easy choice.
Id definitely keep this. The Nexus 5 wont be coming to VZW, but it seems like it'll be the same hardware as the G2. So yeah stick with us. I as well am completely expecting a BL unlock soon.
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I just got my S3 today. It is bigger then I actually would like. Also, I do not like TouchWiz (and the VZW mods/bloatware) on the phone. Even using Nova Launcher, I still get stuck with some odd interface issues due to TouchWiz.
For hardware, though, it runs very, very well. However, I am stuck -- I would like to but JB on it but with no perm root yet for the phone (just the kexec work around). So I am curious, since the BL is locked (not eta yet of getting it unlocked) should I go towards the Gnex (similar size phone) or the smaller Inc4g (which is unlockable -- worried about support though unlike my OG DINC). I prefer the Inc4g however the build quality is an issue on the phone. In my 20mins of playing with it at VZW (day it came out), seems to run very well with Android 4.0 and Sense 4. I don't mind Sense as much as TouchWiz either.
So I am at an impass: do I wait to see what happens with the S3? Do I jump ship to the GNex or Inc4g?
I do wish VZW would not have been stupid about the S3!
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I just got my S3 today. It is bigger then I actually would like. Also, I do not like TouchWiz (and the VZW mods/bloatware) on the phone. Even using Nova Launcher, I still get stuck with some odd interface issues due to TouchWiz.
For hardware, though, it runs very, very well. However, I am stuck -- I would like to but JB on it but with no perm root yet for the phone (just the kexec work around). So I am curious, since the BL is locked (not eta yet of getting it unlocked) should I go towards the Gnex (similar size phone) or the smaller Inc4g (which is unlockable -- worried about support though unlike my OG DINC). I prefer the Inc4g however the build quality is an issue on the phone. In my 20mins of playing with it at VZW (day it came out), seems to run very well with Android 4.0 and Sense 4. I don't mind Sense as much as TouchWiz either.
So I am at an impass: do I wait to see what happens with the S3? Do I jump ship to the GNex or Inc4g?
I do wish VZW would not have been stupid about the S3!
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I would honestly wait it out. It's a matter of time before enough people get together and win over a BL unlock update from Sammy. If you want a GN enough I would trade you, but to be fair the s3 is a strong phone and should get the unlock soon.
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I would honestly wait it out. It's a matter of time before enough people get together and win over a BL unlock update from Sammy. If you want a GN enough I would trade you, but to be fair the s3 is a strong phone and should get the unlock soon.
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I the S3 set up and works great. Don't like TouchWiz at all. We will see. I can do some programming but not on the level needed to help. I let you know.
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I would honestly wait it out. It's a matter of time before enough people get together and win over a BL unlock update from Sammy. If you want a GN enough I would trade you, but to be fair the s3 is a strong phone and should get the unlock soon.
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After a few days, I am enjoying the phone. I think it has a better feel then the GNex at least hardware wise. Let's see if we get a BL unlock. Going to root to remove the extra crappie from the phone.
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I switched to Verizon a week ago from sprint and a nexus s 4g. I picked the RAZR M because sprint wouldn't repair a faulty refurb they sent me so I needed a phone. The RAZR m was cheap and seemed really solid. In fact its a great phone. However I am of the mindset if you're on Verizon and have the funds go for the DNA. Since Verizon extended their return policy I can use Christmas money and return this. My only concerns with the DNA are
1. Battery life -my RAZR m which gets great life has almost the same size battery.
2. Support -moto is owned by Google and updates are being churned out fast, HTC however has a history of not supporting. The DNA is future proof spec wise but will HTC support.
3. Build quality- after switching to moto build quality has become important. Kevlar back aluminum body etc. Are all present in my "mid range" phone
4. Roms -with my RAZR I've excepted lack of ROMs and dev support, but almost stock makes this acceptable. Sense however is tolerable, but heavy. I could deal with it but would look to replace it later with AOSP
5. Memory-7 the 8gb isn't cutting it , I need the 16gb.
Can anyone who has a DNA or experience with one speak on these? Thanks
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Memory is actually 11gb
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After you root the DNA and flash a new ROM you'll have about 11 gigs for whatever your needs. Many users are reporting that they are not having problems with the battery life, so I think you'll find it acceptable. The DNA has top notch build quality--most HTC phones do. Just go to a Verizon store and check it out. You'll be pleasantly surprised. As far as getting AOSP is concerned, I wouldn't hold your breath just yet. It could happen down the road
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1. Battery life is much better than most reviews say. will last me more than the whole day. Especially with cubed kernel
2. Roms will cover updates
3. the build quality on this phone is amazing! i love the feel of it
5. There's already a few good Roms on the phone, and from what i can see the devs are very talented and will bring lots more roms to this phone!
6. Memory, this phone is advertised with 16 gigs. Stock its 11 gigs available. But once you debloat it becomes closer to the 16 gig mark
I hope HTC doesn't skip us out of future upgrade this phone is to beast to do that.
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Thanks y'all sound confident and happy with your devices. I'll leave the thread open in case any other experts want to chime in. I think I'll collect my earnings for Christmas, then gauge from there . If I have the difference I'll pull the trigger, if not oh well It sounds extremely pleasing to own.
Sense is a lot less resource hungry than what it was. Couple that with 2gb of RAM and a quad core, you're not going to get lag.
The build quality of the DNA is amazing. It as a very solid feel and is definitely durable.
In all honesty the battery is nowhere near as bad as some people make it out to be. sure, it doesn't get the maxx life but its a 2,020mAh and given that it uses a 5" 1080p screen the battery life "fits." even if HTC doesn't update often the developers will certainly pick up the slack.
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This phone is solid as they come in build quality, love the solid feel of it in my hand...that's what she said.
I've had a bad experience with motorola and updates. The photon 4g for sprint is still stuck on gingerbread and will never be updated passed that. The phone was on a list to get ics but moto canned it.
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I've had a bad experience with motorola and updates. The photon 4g for sprint is still stuck on gingerbread and will never be updated passed that. The phone was on a list to get ics but moto canned it.
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Moto sucks I had the razr and hated that damn phone.and it took forever to get ics.moto r very slow on updates
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Yea I'm aware of moto's ****ty history with updates and with lock bootloaders that puts you @ verizon's mercy. But HTC is pretty bad as well. t's just that the Dev community is so exciting for the DNA it won't be an issue. With my razr M however I have practically no reason to visit XDA anymore lol. This is a reason for me contemplating the switch, the deep community behind it. Not Nexus S deep, but enough to satisfy.
Great phone
I won my phone thanks to HTC's ambassador program (you can read about it on htcsource dot com) and I love it! Today was a good testament to the battery as I was out shopping with my wife most of the day and am about to finally plug it in. My previous phone was a One S so I was somewhat already used to the limited amount of storage, but I do think to myself sometimes that 32GB is a much amount. I would love to carry more music since I don't have the luxury of free WiFi at work. The storage had yet to be a deal breaker for me, because there are so many other perks to this phone. I absolutely love the possibilities with NFC and the screen size is freaking awesome to look at.
I say go for it!
After only having Moto smartphones for the last few years, I've never experienced HTC. How are they with their updates?
I know with Moto the updates were taking ages, but looking back it was a little fun trying this and that to get things to work. I forget the saying, but it's something about enjoying the trip more than getting to the destination.
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After only having Moto smartphones for the last few years, I've never experienced HTC. How are they with their updates?
I know with Moto the updates were taking ages, but looking back it was a little fun trying this and that to get things to work. I forget the saying, but it's something about enjoying the trip more than getting to the destination.
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if you have a verizon phone, your updates will take ages, period. moto, htc, samsung, doesn't matter. verizon is who dictates when the updates go out, and they're ALWAYS last.
I got to hold and play with a DNA the other day and man does it feel nice in hand. Top notch build quality, super fast and that screen is amazing. Makes me jealous I'm not due for an up grade but the DNA will definitely get more support and roms than the RAZR simply because moto is so hell bent on locking down their devices
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if you have a verizon phone, your updates will take ages, period. moto, htc, samsung, doesn't matter. verizon is who dictates when the updates go out, and they're ALWAYS last.
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Ya, that's what I'm afraid of because this is a Verizon phone.
Well, once someone figures out our s-on problem we will have the hardware to handle anything.
orangechoochoo said:
Ya, that's what I'm afraid of because this is a Verizon phone.
Well, once someone figures out our s-on problem we will have the hardware to handle anything.
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honestly though, coming from a guy who roots everything, i'm really enjoying the phone stock. i wihs i were rooted so that i could remove the wifi nag and make the recent apps button into a menu button, but other than that, this thing rocks stock.
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honestly though, coming from a guy who roots everything, i'm really enjoying the phone stock. i wihs i were rooted so that i could remove the wifi nag and make the recent apps button into a menu button, but other than that, this thing rocks stock.
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Just a quick fyi to help you enjoy stock better. Just long press the wifi notif and press app info then just force stop it. The annoying notif will be gone til you reboot.
The rommer in me is not satisfied.
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Just a quick fyi to help you enjoy stock better. Just long press the wifi notif and press app info then just force stop it. The annoying notif will be gone til you reboot.
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yeah man, i saw that trick, it works great..problem is i switch wifi on/off throughout the day, so everytime ya do it, you have to force close. so annoying, right? haha
I just grabbed this phone from Verizon, since the dev community is small compared to my other 2 options (Razr HD Maxx and Galaxy S3), however, with this new pesky 2.04 OTA that came pre-installed on my DNA, it seems like the community is currently at a halt.
I have approx 10 more days to return my DNA and get a second choice (Razr or Galaxy), but the hardware is really holding me to the DNA. I don't care much for Sense, and I've always been a motorola fan, however I also love to dev and mess with my phones. So, how likely is this 2.04 unlock? Or should I just go ahead and switch phones? Both the S3 and Razr have great dev communities. S3 has 2gb ram while the Razr has 1gb ram BUT has that amazing battery.
What should I do? I'm so indecisive right now and it's killing me!
I wouldn't buy a phone based on what might happen in the future. If nothing else, you could always sell it and buy one unlocked and s off.
The S3 is decent although old and I suspect dev support is on the downhill slope. I'm personally not a fan of the Razr. If it was my choice to make I'd keep the DNA or sell it and get one unlocked, or get a Note 2 to hold me over until Verizon gets the next HTC. The DNA 2 or One Variant.
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why not take it back to the store and swap it out instead? Just don't let the store reps update your software. I never let them do anything more then activate my sim card
Guess its a good thing the woman that sold me mine was not familiar with smartphones, I had to show her how to take out the SIM tray. I declined the update so I could familiarize myself to sense coming from the razr maxx
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why not take it back to the store and swap it out instead? Just don't let the store reps update your software. I never let them do anything more then activate my sim card
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You think the phone was updated and didn't just come already preloaded with the new software? I don't remember having to sit through any update, she simply opened it, popped in the sim card, and had me log into my gmail. If that's the case, then I might try that route.
I came from the Maxx and think the DNA is so much more of a phone that I live we the battery size. I got to say that there is something innate to flashaholics that we must have the latest version and once we have it, we want to newest version. In the end, they all still do the same damn thing. We risk bricking, endless hours of trying to fix something we may have screwed up in flashing variants and trying every rom out there and trying again and again. The DNA is a great phone as is. You will always want the next phone regardless so make a decision based on the phone in your hand not what it may be like once you get rooted and start the insanity again of trying to make it better. You can deactivate bloat, hid things in app drawer, it is still blazing fast, a portable battery hub solves the battery issue better than having to plug in everywhere, the Qi pad is sweet, still fits in jean pockets and it has a beautiful screen.
I came from the Maxx and think the DNA is so much more of a phone that I live we the battery size. I got to say that there is something innate to flashaholics that we must have the latest version and once we have it, we want to newest version. In the end, they all still do the same damn thing. We risk bricking, endless hours of trying to fix something we may have screwed up in flashing variants and trying every rom out there and trying again and again. The DNA is a great phone as is. You will always want the next phone regardless so make a decision based on the phone in your hand not what it may be like once you get rooted and start the insanity again of trying to make it better. You can deactivate bloat, hid things in app drawer, it is still blazing fast, a portable battery hub solves the battery issue better than having to plug in everywhere, the Qi pad is sweet, still fits in jean pockets and it has a beautiful screen.
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Why do you have to point out the amazingness of this phone and make my decision even harder!? I do agree with you though. The DNA has amazing more-than-currently-needed hardware, and that's really what's making my decision so hard. I have faith in the unlock, and plenty of patience, but it's hard being a developer and not being able to dev. I hate being restricted. I'm almost to the point of getting the Note II, but the phablet size is keeping me away for now.
Thanks for the input!
I would say the DNA is definitely worth it even without root/unlock.
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I would say the DNA is definitely worth it even without root/unlock.
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Before the update came out I didn't root or unlock because I think phone is amazing on a stock rom. HTC really did a nice job. Although once it stops getting otas I will unlock root and put a custom rom and kernel but until then I'm just staying on stock. I don't see anything wrong with it. And if I get the urge to flash something I just flash my n7.
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Before the update came out I didn't root or unlock because I think phone is amazing on a stock rom. HTC really did a nice job. Although once it stops getting otas I will unlock root and put a custom rom and kernel but until then I'm just staying on stock. I don't see anything wrong with it. And if I get the urge to flash something I just flash my n7.
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I am rooted and unlocked but the main reason I did it was to remap to recents button to long press menu just go get rid of the black menu bar.
Other than that I was very happy with stock.
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My DNA is still locked and unrooted and honestly it doesn't bother me too much. It is pretty awesome as is. Sure it has some annoyances but what phone doesn't?
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I would say the DNA is definitely worth it even without root/unlock.
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Absolutely, it's a very smooth phone. And like broons said, there are small things that bug me. I would like to root for tasker, hotspot/tether, custom notifications bar (i really dislike the sense skinned not bar), power on with volume, remve gps icon, and remove the bloat completely. Those are what I would do instantly, with only root. But of course, the main reason would be to flash roms and take a crack at the source myself
Is there currently a team actively working on the 2.04 unlock?
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Absolutely, it's a very smooth phone. And like broons said, there are small things that bug me. I would like to root for tasker, hotspot/tether, custom notifications bar (i really dislike the sense skinned not bar), power on with volume, remve gps icon, and remove the bloat completely. Those are what I would do instantly, with only root. But of course, the main reason would be to flash roms and take a crack at the source myself
Is there currently a team actively working on the 2.04 unlock?
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Guys If you want an exploit email and twitter at HTC and HTCDEV to release the 2.04 kernel source which they are LEGALLY required to do and have no done so yet. There is seriously a likely exploit there.
I'd stick with the DNA...cm 10.1 is almost done and if devs can't figure out a root method...which i think they will...you can send it off to get s-off for like $40...its not impossible to get s-off
Current team says it is not likely. Kernel source may help.
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Current team says it is not likely. Kernel source may help.
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^ Truth.
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I would say the DNA is definitely worth it even without root/unlock.
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The first thing I do is ROOT when I get a phone. However I can't on the DNA b/c I'm also on 2.04. I'm actually with AT&T using the DNA. I don't have LTE, and MMS only works using GoSMS which I don't really care for. Even with the MMS issue, no LTE, and no ROOT, this phone is still worth it. If I was an actual VZW subscriber, this would be the phone to have for sure.
I want ROOT to remove the horrid software install popups when connecting by usb and to wifi tether. Other than that, the stock rom is pretty smooth. The hardware is just too BEAST to pass up. I'm coming from the OneX which was a great phone as well, but the DNA runs circles around the OneX.
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I just grabbed this phone from Verizon, since the dev community is small compared to my other 2 options (Razr HD Maxx and Galaxy S3), however, with this new pesky 2.04 OTA that came pre-installed on my DNA, it seems like the community is currently at a halt.
I have approx 10 more days to return my DNA and get a second choice (Razr or Galaxy), but the hardware is really holding me to the DNA. I don't care much for Sense, and I've always been a motorola fan, however I also love to dev and mess with my phones. So, how likely is this 2.04 unlock? Or should I just go ahead and switch phones? Both the S3 and Razr have great dev communities. S3 has 2gb ram while the Razr has 1gb ram BUT has that amazing battery.
What should I do? I'm so indecisive right now and it's killing me!
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I have had numerous Moto phones and the Razr Maxx HD was a big disappointment for me; and I tried hard to love that thing. 32 GB of memory and a battery like no other, but they skimped out by only including 1 GB of RAM which gave me redraw after redraw. It reminded me of my old Charge. The DNA is by far the best stock Android phone I've ever had (15 and counting). If you don't like Sense, then just throw Nova or something similar on top. I would never own a Samsung phone again, but if you're okay with the plastic, crappy feel, the S3 probably has the easiest phone to root and the most custom ROM's.
If you guys want any hope of an exploit, Twitter and email HTC and htcdev to release the kernel source! They are violating the gpl by not doing that.
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Had the Razr as well and loved it but the 1gb of RAM was the problem. Had they put 2gb in the HD's, right now, they would be owning market.
The DNA is amazing even unrooted. Power toggles and Nova make this phone completely unique and i haven't even played with ADW and other launchers. Just crazy fast and lightning quick.
I saw the sprint g3 @ $100 renewing contract and it got me tempted.
But i'm not 100% sure, i have a nexus 5 since release day, and i love it. Great screen, smooth experienced, a lot of develoment, but theres some not so great stuff like camera and battery, there good but not great.
I instantly fall in love with the look of g3, small bezels, back buttons, but reading around about lag, no so great development. its is worth it?
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I saw the sprint g3 @ $100 renewing contract and it got me tempted.
But i'm not 100% sure, i have a nexus 5 since release day, and i love it. Great screen, smooth experienced, a lot of develoment, but theres some not so great stuff like camera and battery, there good but not great.
I instantly fall in love with the look of g3, small bezels, back buttons, but reading around about lag, no so great development. its is worth it?
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I just got mine Friday for $50 from amazon. If you get a one make sure to take advantage of the free battery promo from lg.
2fastkuztoms said:
I saw the sprint g3 @ $100 renewing contract and it got me tempted.
But i'm not 100% sure, i have a nexus 5 since release day, and i love it. Great screen, smooth experienced, a lot of develoment, but theres some not so great stuff like camera and battery, there good but not great.
I instantly fall in love with the look of g3, small bezels, back buttons, but reading around about lag, no so great development. its is worth it?
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It's been an amazing phone so far. I haven't experienced any lag at all! Once the bootloader is unlocked, I guarantee development will be going strong!
I'm very stoked on mine. Bootloader unlock will make this phone super fly but it's already awesome. I had the htc m8 and custom roms and all but I don't miss it even a bit.
To return to Android from an iPhone 5 to this phone really makes me thing why did I change. This phone is the best out there right now. I can usually go 36 hours without charging, and I use my phone a ton. So yes it is worth it. The Ultra HD is pretty bad ass too.
I wouldn't say the phone is perfect, but compared to the Galaxy S5 and the HTC One M8, I'd say it's right there. It's a matter of what's important to you. Obviously if you want forward facing speaking, this phone can't do that. But if you want an amazing screen, a bit more size and a very smooth/solid experience. This phone is great.
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I wouldn't say the phone is perfect, but compared to the Galaxy S5 and the HTC One M8, I'd say it's right there. It's a matter of what's important to you. Obviously if you want forward facing speaking, this phone can't do that. But if you want an amazing screen, a bit more size and a very smooth/solid experience. This phone is great.
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Thanks all, it got me tempted to buy it, i was thinking on the note 4, but probably would be $300-350 and I don't like touchwiz and all the bloat plus knox.
I would buy nexus 6 unlock (hopefully it comes to sprint again) and the lg g3 looks like a nice toy to play around in the mean time.
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Thanks all, it got me tempted to buy it, i was thinking on the note 4, but probably would be $300-350 and I don't like touchwiz and all the bloat plus knox.
I would buy nexus 6 unlock (hopefully it comes to sprint again) and the lg g3 looks like a nice toy to play around in the mean time.
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I mean, the big thing is...we don't have an Unlock yet and can't do custom ROMs. But this phone is definitely better stock than Samsung phones.
The Note 4 does look pretty good though, if it's quick to be unlocked/rooted/such it might be really nice since you can uninstall the bloat.
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I mean, the big thing is...we don't have an Unlock yet and can't do custom ROMs. But this phone is definitely better stock than Samsung phones.
The Note 4 does look pretty good though, if it's quick to be unlocked/rooted/such it might be really nice since you can uninstall the bloat.
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Well you can uninstall bloat with root; don't need a bootloader for that (although it would be safer) unless you're just saying that the problem with TW vs LG is the bloat on TW is worse.
dakoellis said:
Well you can uninstall bloat with root; don't need a bootloader for that (although it would be safer) unless you're just saying that the problem with TW vs LG is the bloat on TW is worse.
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Yeah mostly meant TW bloat is a lot worse. Also I'm a little finicky about uninstalling bloat with just root, I know some people are doing that and using Xposed and what not. I'm just cautious.
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Yeah mostly meant TW bloat is a lot worse. Also I'm a little finicky about uninstalling bloat with just root, I know some people are doing that and using Xposed and what not. I'm just cautious.
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I'm with ya on removing bloat and all that other stuff. Only thing I want is to root and activate the built in hotspot. On the S5 it was very simple and works great. Still researching it on the G3 Sprint.
Well I tried to buy it from Amazon, but Sprint restricted them, and they cant ship it to Puerto Rico, I sent my wife to Radio Shack (they always gave me better price than sprint retails or corporate) where they listed at $99, and they told my wife its a 16gb model. Does sprint 16gb/2gb really exist? I though they only have the 32gb model.
I was considering this phone, but if sprint is going to make this difficult, hello t-mobile.
I went monday to radio shack, they guy told they didn't have the lg g3 (this guys doesn't even know what they sell?. I told him to look in the computer, and he found it, 32gb titanuim @ $99.
Its a beast phone, I didn't remember all the bloat those non google phone have. I rooted, disabled some crappy app, nova launcher, ART and everething looks great so far.
Glad to hear you got the g3.
I'd back of from it til the boot loader is unlocked
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I have my nexus 5 and waiting for the 6, so this one with locked bootloader don't bother too much, at least its rooted to block ads. I prefer paying for a good apps without ads than a free one with ads, also hate browsing on the webs with ads everywhere. Only i would miss is a clean rom if the bootlocker doesnt get unlocked.
Does the Stump Root work to at least root the G3?
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Does the Stump Root work to at least root the G3?
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Yes it worked on mine at first try, took like 3-5 minutes of brute force.
allaidback said:
Does the Stump Root work to at least root the G3?
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Easiest root ever. Could not believe it. Now if only we could get a recovery and some real development for this phone.
FYI, it has been absolutely great and I don't know why it doesn't get more attention. Very happy I bought it and saved enough money over a Note 4 that I'm going to buy a smartwatch.
i have a zte grand x max+ now but who knows itf it will ever get root, so on this phone how is speaker quality is it loud?and the screen is it bright? and is the phone fluid opening and closing apps etc, after you root it to do some tweaks? thanks
as near as i can tell this would be superior to my Zte Grand x max+, they seem to be same both 720p display, same cpu&gpu, but the things that seem to me off hand would make it better is cpu is 1.2 on my Zte, and 1.6 on this, and this is rootable, but im still looking for opinions from owners of this phone
Phone is amazing. I am rooted with a bunch of xposed modules installed. No issues at all. Fast and smooth operation, and network speeds on MetroPCS are super-fast. I was skeptical about getting this phone, but I am super happy with it. Of course, the battery life is just insane. I don't use the speakerphone much, but when I do, it is plenty loud for me. The screen is beautiful as well. You can always get it from Amazon, they have a great return policy.
I second the suggestion of buying this from Amazon. That's what I did and my 30 day return window is almost up. But I am keeping this phone. I am also rooted and have Nova installed as well. The battery life just blows your mind. I do one long charge on the weekend and that's it. Maybe ten or twenty minutes charges once in a while.
Does it get pretty good cell signal? I'm looking to replace a Galaxy Note 2, which I recently dropped and busted. :crying:
I've been a Samsung user for a few years, but my Note 2 got crappy cell signal compared to the S3 that I replaced (on AT&T, btw, same number and sim card). I was looking at a used Note 4, but don't really feel like dishing out >$500 on a decent used one, and you still can't root the AT&T/Verizon versions, as far as I know. I know you can root the T-Mobile version, but still not too interested in spending the big bucks.
This one's been getting pretty decent reviews for a mid-tier phone, and I'm a fan of big screens (I like to read/watch videos a lot). This one looks like it would fit the bill. I think I just read that Huawei is going to release Android L (Lollipop?) some time in the first half of this year, so that's a plus.
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Does it get pretty good cell signal?
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I have a Mate2 on T-Mobile and I get 4G LTE pretty much everywhere I go. Although that might be on T-Mobile's part, not the phone.
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I think I just read that Huawei is going to release Android L (Lollipop?) some time in the first half of this year, so that's a plus.
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Yes, you read that right. We're just past the first half of the first half of this year, so hopefully we see some more info soon.
ScoobSTi, how do you like the phone?
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I have a Mate2 on T-Mobile and I get 4G LTE pretty much everywhere I go. Although that might be on T-Mobile's part, not the phone.
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Well, that gives me hope. I'm pretty sure my signal problems at home were phone related. Got decent signal on AT&T with my Galaxy S3 (which I still have), but when I switched to a Note 2, signal went down the toilet. And I would lose signal with regularity in any big box store (Walmart, Target, etc).
Anyway, ordered! I'm hoping some custom roms become available; I'm used to the plethora of choices available for the Samsung phones, hope I can play around with this one a bit.
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ScoobSTi, how do you like the phone?
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Love it! I'm in school full-time and I don't have time to worry about the battery percentage, bringing chargers, finding outlets, etc. I need a phone that does everything I ask of it and lasts long as well. As for the specs, yes they aren't great, but it's still snappy and responsive. Almost on par with my sister's Nexus 5. Occasionally there are dropped frames or app crashes, but that's sadly typical of Android. Sometimes I get a bit annoyed with the size of the phone but that only happens when I wear slim or skinny jeans. No, I'm not worried about bending it!
The only real problem I have is with the software. Like I said, I just need a phone that works, and it does, but EMUI doesn't look nice. I could deal with it but the dreams of getting CM11 or CM12 on this make me a bit impatient.
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Well, that gives me hope. I'm pretty sure my signal problems at home were phone related. Got decent signal on AT&T with my Galaxy S3 (which I still have), but when I switched to a Note 2, signal went down the toilet. And I would lose signal with regularity in any big box store (Walmart, Target, etc).
Anyway, ordered! I'm hoping some custom roms become available; I'm used to the plethora of choices available for the Samsung phones, hope I can play around with this one a bit.
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We have a dev working on CM11 AND CM12, but he's been busy with work (*cough* Cyanogen) so there hasn't been progress lately. Also, thanks for reminding me about those big stores. I forgot, I DO lose signal in places like BJ's. I always thought it was because of the building itself though.
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Also, thanks for reminding me about those big stores. I forgot, I DO lose signal in places like BJ's. I always thought it was because of the building itself though.
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It is the building, also - those buildings have a lot of infrastructure between your phone and the cell towers, but some phones have better antennas than others. For example, my wife has an iPhone 5, and she gets a signal in them, while I'm staring at a crossed out circle for my signal indicator. And I don't remember completely losing signal with my S3 as I did with my Note 2, although I would lose a bar or two. I'm back using my S3 right now, since my Note 2 went tits up - I'll check it out next time I'm out and about.
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ScoobSTi said:
The only real problem I have is with the software. Like I said, I just need a phone that works, and it does, but EMUI doesn't look nice. I could deal with it but the dreams of getting CM11 or CM12 on this make me a bit impatient.
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Yeah, the UI is the main thing that had me hesitating. All of the reviews I've read about it list it as a negative - I know I can always install a different launcher, but those sometimes come with their own problems. I think the Android L release is supposed come with the 3.0 version of the UI. I haven't read much about it yet, but I'm hoping it's better than the current version. And, of course, I'll be a happy camper when CM11 or CM12 is released! Not too concerned about it in the interim, though, as I don't tend to get too crazy with the UI customizations.
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Yeah, the UI is the main thing that had me hesitating. All of the reviews I've read about it list it as a negative - I know I can always install a different launcher, but those sometimes come with their own problems. I think the Android L release is supposed come with the 3.0 version of the UI. I haven't read much about it yet, but I'm hoping it's better than the current version. And, of course, I'll be a happy camper when CM11 or CM12 is released! Not too concerned about it in the interim, though, as I don't tend to get too crazy with the UI customizations.
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Yes, we are supposed to get EMUI 3 as well. You can check it out here. Looks pretty nice, if you ask me.
is this version rootable? http://swappa.com/listing/DRN961/view i was looking in android devolpment i did not see root for the lo3 version thanks
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is this version rootable? http://swappa.com/listing/DRN961/view i was looking in android devolpment i did not see root for the lo3 version thanks
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Yeah, it's been done. Try the links below - just be sure to make a nandroid backup of your stock rom before making any changes...Android L is supposed be released sometime in the next few months. Pretty sure you'll need the stock rom for OTA.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ascend-mate2/general/progress-rooting-ham2-t2867975
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317790
http://forum.xda-developers.com/asc.../2014-09-22-teamwin-recovery-project-t2885144
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Yeah, it's been done. Try the links below - just be sure to make a nandroid backup of your stock rom before making any changes...Android L is supposed be released sometime in the next few months. Pretty sure you'll need the stock rom for OTA.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ascend-mate2/general/progress-rooting-ham2-t2867975
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317790
http://forum.xda-developers.com/asc.../2014-09-22-teamwin-recovery-project-t2885144
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thanks, have you got youres yet? if so how do you like it? my zte grand x max+ would be fine if i could root it and freeze the crap i dont want, but alas i didnt know ZTE,S nickname was "FORT KNOX" locking their phones down
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thanks, have you got youres yet? if so how do you like it? my zte grand x max+ would be fine if i could root it and freeze the crap i dont want, but alas i didnt know ZTE,S nickname was "FORT KNOX" locking their phones down
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No, just ordered one a couple of days ago from Ebay - should arrive this week sometime. I wanted something with a large screen, but wasn't interested in paying >$500 for a used Galaxy Note 4. The price point on this is great, and has a lot of decent features. I was looking at the OnePlus One, but it doesn't have expandable memory, something that's a must-have for me.
BTW, you'll probably need ADB and Fastboot - check out the link below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317790
The ascend mate is good in all aspects, the only time service gets choppy is in Walmarts
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can the lo3 version do at&t LTE?
found this on amazon about my question http://www.amazon.com/purchase-cont...m_cd_ql_tlc_al?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B00JPIAGW0 no idea how accurate it is
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can the lo3 version do at&t LTE?
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yes. L03 is the USA version and works great on att and T-Mobile LTE. I have it on Straighttalk using att towers. I get fast strong LTE coverage in my area and its great!
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yes. L03 is the USA version and works great on att and T-Mobile LTE. I have it on Straighttalk using att towers. I get fast strong LTE coverage in my area and its great!
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you like the phone? have you rooted yet?